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changeset 196:59f2b27c2279
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--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/? Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,5 @@ +#!/bin/sh +topic=$(echo "$1" | tr A-Z a-z) +[ -e "wisdom/$topic" ] || { echo "$1? ¯\(°_o)/¯"; exit 1; } +cat "wisdom/$topic" +
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/@ Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,2 @@ +#!/usr/bin/perl -w +$_ = join " ", @ARGV; if (s/^([^ ]*) +([^ ]*) +//) { print "$1: "; exec $2, $_; }
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/No Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +#!/bin/sh
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/addquote Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,4 @@ +#!/bin/sh +[ "$1" ] || exit 1 +printf "%s\n" "$1" >>quotes +echo $(qc | cut -d' ' -f1)") $1"
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/allquotes Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,2 @@ +#!/bin/sh +nl -w 1 -s ') ' quotes
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/calc Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +#!/bin/sh +exec /hackenv/lib/frink -e "$@" +
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/define Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@ +#!/bin/bash +if [ ! "$1" ] +then + echo 'Define what?' + exit 1 +fi + +QUERY=`echo -n "$1" | od -t x1 -A n -w1000 | tr " " %` + +lynx --cfg=/dev/null --lss=/dev/null \ + --dump --width=1000 'http://google.com/search?q=define:'"$QUERY" | + grep -A 3 'Definitions of' | + head -n 4 | tail -n 3 \ No newline at end of file
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/delquote Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,9 @@ +#!/bin/sh +id=$1 +expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1 || exit 1 +head -n $((id-1)) quotes >quotes.new +tail -n +$((id+1)) quotes >>quotes.new +diff quotes quotes.new >/dev/null && exit 1 +echo "*poof*$(quote $id | cut -d')' -f2-)" +mv quotes.new quotes +
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/etymology Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@ +#!/bin/bash +if [ ! "$1" ] +then + echo 'Look up what?' + exit 1 +fi + +QUERY=`echo -n "$1" | od -t x1 -A n -w1000 | tr " " %` + +lynx --cfg=/dev/null --lss=/dev/null \ + --dump --width=1000 'http://etymonline.com/?search='"$QUERY" | + grep -A 100 ']'"$1" | + sed 's/\[[0-9]*\]//g ; s/ Look up.*// ; s/ */ /g' \ No newline at end of file
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/forget Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,4 @@ +#!/bin/sh +rm "wisdom/$(echo "$1" | tr A-Z a-z)" +echo "Forget what?" +
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/frink Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +#!/bin/sh +exec /hackenv/lib/frink -e "$@" +
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/google Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@ +#!/bin/bash +if [ ! "$1" ] +then + echo 'Google what?' + exit 1 +fi + +QUERY=`echo -n "$1" | od -t x1 -A n -w1000 | tr " " %` + +lynx --cfg=/dev/null --lss=/dev/null \ + --dump --width=1000 'http://google.com/search?q='"$QUERY" | + grep -A 4 'Search Results' | + tail -n 2
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/hatesgeo Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,2 @@ +#!/bin/sh +perl -n -e '/:(.*?)!.*JOIN/; $j{$1}++; END {print "$_ $j{$_};" for sort {$j{$b} <=> $j{$a}} keys %j}' $@
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/json Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,5 @@ +#!/usr/bin/env python +import sys +import json +data = json.loads(sys.stdin.read().decode('utf-8')) +print eval(sys.argv[1]).encode('utf-8')
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/k Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,2 @@ +#!/bin/sh +echo '!"#$%^&* 0123456789'
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/karma Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,2 @@ +#!/bin/sh +echo "$1 has $(lib/karma "$1") karma."
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/karma+ Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +#!/bin/sh +echo "$1 now has $(($(lib/karma "$1")+1)) karma." | tee karma +
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/karma- Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,4 @@ +#!/bin/sh +touch karma +echo "$1 now has $(($(lib/karma "$1")-1)) karma." +
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/learn Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,6 @@ +#!/bin/sh +topic=$(echo "$1" | sed 's/ .*//' | tr A-Z a-z) +info=$(echo "$1" | sed 's/[^ ]* //') +echo "$1" >"wisdom/$topic" +echo "I knew that." +
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/log Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,9 @@ +#!/bin/sh +cd /var/irclogs/_esoteric +if [ "$1" ]; then + grep -P -i -- "$1" ????-??-??.txt | shuf -n 1 +else + file=$(shuf -en 1 ????-??-??.txt) + echo "$file:$(shuf -n 1 $file)" +fi +
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/logurl Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +#!/bin/sh +echo "http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/$(basename "$(echo "$1" | sed 's/:.*//')" .txt)" +
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/marco Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,2 @@ +#!/bin/sh + echo polo \ No newline at end of file
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/paste Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,14 @@ +#!/bin/bash +if [ ! "$1" ] +then + PASTE=- +else + PASTE="$1" +fi + +PASTENUM="$RANDOM" + +mkdir -p $HACKENV/paste + +echo 'http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.'"$PASTENUM" +cat "$PASTE" > $HACKENV/paste/paste."$PASTENUM" \ No newline at end of file
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/pastekarma Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,6 @@ +#!/bin/sh +cd karma +ls | while read thing; do + echo "$thing: $(cat "$thing")" +done | paste +
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/pastelog Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,28 @@ +#!/bin/sh +cd /var/irclogs/_esoteric + +pasterandom() { + if [ "$1" -gt 150 ]; then + echo "No." + exit + fi + for i in $(seq "$1"); do + file=$(shuf -en 1 ????-??-??.txt) + echo "$file:$(shuf -n 1 $file)" + done | paste +} + +if [ "$1" ]; then + if expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1; then + pasterandom "$1" + else + lines=$(grep -P -i -- "$1" ????-??-??.txt | head -n 301) + { + echo "$lines" | head -n 300 + [ $(echo "$lines" | wc -l) -eq 301 ] && echo "[too many lines; stopping]" + } | paste + fi +else + pasterandom 40 +fi +
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/pastelogs Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,28 @@ +#!/bin/sh +cd /var/irclogs/_esoteric + +pasterandom() { + if [ "$1" -gt 150 ]; then + echo "No." + exit + fi + for i in $(seq "$1"); do + file=$(shuf -en 1 ????-??-??.txt) + echo "$file:$(shuf -n 1 $file)" + done | paste +} + +if [ "$1" ]; then + if expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1; then + pasterandom "$1" + else + lines=$(grep -P -i -- "$1" ????-??-??.txt | head -n 301) + { + echo "$lines" | head -n 300 + [ $(echo "$lines" | wc -l) -eq 301 ] && echo "[too many lines; stopping]" + } | paste + fi +else + pasterandom 40 +fi +
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/pastenquotes Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,4 @@ +#!/bin/sh +n=$1 +if [ "$((n+0))" != "$n" ]; then n=15; fi +allquotes | shuf -n $n | paste
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/pastequotes Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,2 @@ +#!/bin/sh +if [ "$1" ]; then quote "$1"; else allquotes; fi | paste
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/pastewisdom Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,2 @@ +#!/bin/sh +cat wisdom/* | paste
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/pastlog Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,4 @@ +#!/bin/sh +cd /var/irclogs/_esoteric +grep -P -i -- "$1" $(ls ????-??-??.txt | head -n -1) | shuf -n 1 +
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/ping Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,2 @@ +#!/bin/bash +echo pong
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/prefixes Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,2 @@ +#!/bin/sh +echo 'Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?'
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/qc Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,2 @@ +#!/bin/sh +wc -l quotes
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/quote Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,8 @@ +#!/bin/sh +allquotes | if [ "$1" ]; then + if expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1; then + sed "$1q;d" + else + grep -P -i -- "$1" + fi +else shuf -n 1; fi
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/quotes Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,8 @@ +#!/bin/sh +allquotes | if [ "$1" ]; then + if expr "$1" + 0 >/dev/null 2>&1; then + sed "$1q;d" + else + grep -P -i -- "$1" + fi +else shuf -n 1; fi
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/roll Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,24 @@ +#!/bin/bash +rolls="$*" +if [ "$rolls" = "" ] ; then rolls="1d6" ; fi + +for i in $rolls +do + if expr "$i" : ".*[dD].*" >& /dev/null + then + rollc=`echo "$i" | sed 's/[dD].*//'` + diesz=`echo "$i" | sed 's/.*[dD]//'` + else + rollc=1 + diesz="$i" + fi + + roll=0 + for (( j = 0; $j < $rollc; j++ )) + do + roll=$(( roll + (RANDOM % diesz) + 1 )) + done + + echo -n $roll' ' +done +echo
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/toutf8 Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,6 @@ +#!/usr/bin/python +import sys +import chardet +x = sys.stdin.read() +enc = chardet.detect(x)['encoding'] +sys.stdout.write(x.decode(enc).encode('UTF-8')) \ No newline at end of file
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/translate Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,2 @@ +#!/bin/bash +exec translatefromto "auto en $1"
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/translatefromto Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@ +#!/bin/bash +TEXT="$1" +FROM=`echo "$TEXT" | sed 's/ .*$//'` +TEXT=`echo "$TEXT" | sed 's/^[^ ]* //'` +TO=`echo "$TEXT" | sed 's/ .*$//'` +TEXT=`echo "$TEXT" | sed 's/^[^ ]* //'` +if [ "$FROM" = "auto" ] ; then FROM="" ; fi + +curl -e http://codu.org/ http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/services/language/translate \ + --data-urlencode v=1.0 \ + --data-urlencode q="$TEXT" \ + --data-urlencode langpair="$FROM"'|'"$TO" 2> /dev/null | + json 'data["responseData"]["translatedText"]'
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/translateto Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,2 @@ +#!/bin/bash +exec translatefromto "auto $1"
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/url Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +#!/bin/bash +if [ "$1" ] +then + echo 'http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/'"$1" +else + echo 'http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/' +fi \ No newline at end of file
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/welcome Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,2 @@ +#!/usr/bin/perl -w +if (defined($_=shift)) { s/ *$//; s/ +/ @ /g; exec "bin/@", $_ . " ? welcome"; } else { exec "bin/?", "welcome"; }
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/wl Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,65 @@ +#!/usr/bin/env python + +import os +import sys +import json +import urllib2 + +proxy_handler = urllib2.ProxyHandler({'http': os.environ['http_proxy']}) +opener = urllib2.build_opener(proxy_handler) +urllib2.install_opener(opener) + +def lose(): + print 'You get NOTHING! You LOSE! Good DAY sir!' + sys.exit() + +def eels(): + print 'My hovercraft is full of eels.' + sys.exit() + +if len(sys.argv) > 2: + args = sys.argv[1:] +elif len(sys.argv) == 2: + args = sys.argv[1].split() +else: + lose() + +if len(args) == 2: + from_lang = args[0] + to_lang = 'en' + word = args[1] +elif len(args) == 3: + from_lang = args[0] + to_lang = args[1] + word = args[2] +else: + lose() + +def query(continue_id): + url = 'http://%s.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?format=json&action=query&' \ + 'redirects=1&titles=%s&prop=langlinks' % (from_lang, word) + if continue_id: + url += '&llcontinue=' + continue_id + try: + response = urllib2.urlopen(url).read() + except urllib2.URLError, e: + print e.reason + sys.exit() + return json.loads(response) + +continue_id = None +while True: + q = query(continue_id) + if '-1' in q['query']['pages']: + eels() + page = q['query']['pages'].values()[0] + if 'langlinks' not in page: + eels() + for link in q['query']['pages'].values()[0]['langlinks']: + if link['lang'] == to_lang: + print link['*'].encode('utf-8') + sys.exit() + if 'query-continue' in q: + continue_id = q['query-continue']['langlinks']['llcontinue'] + else: + eels()
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/word Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,19353 @@ +#!/usr/bin/perl +$VAR1 = { + 'qz' => { + 'e' => 1, + 'k' => 1, + 'a' => 1, + ' ' => 9, + 'i' => 1, + 'o' => 2 + }, + 'sp' => { + 'w' => 9, + 'r' => 3173, + 'a' => 5192, + 'd' => 67, + 'x' => 7, + 'j' => 18, + 'y' => 225, + 'u' => 1090, + 'k' => 38, + 'h' => 2761, + 'g' => 15, + 'f' => 39, + 't' => 99, + 'i' => 6959, + 'e' => 10161, + 'n' => 175, + ' ' => 507, + 'v' => 12, + 'm' => 47, + 's' => 146, + 'l' => 1569, + 'c' => 267, + 'p' => 66, + 'q' => 12, + 'b' => 51, + 'z' => 3, + 'o' => 5661 + }, + 'ne' => { + 'w' => 2754, + 'r' => 18514, + 'a' => 4502, + 'x' => 1212, + 'd' => 8122, + 'j' => 282, + 'y' => 3482, + 'u' => 4634, + 'h' => 1008, + 'k' => 668, + 'g' => 2279, + 'f' => 2996, + 't' => 8584, + 'i' => 2990, + 'e' => 3798, + 'n' => 7958, + ' ' => 37726, + 'v' => 1760, + 'm' => 4880, + 's' => 28878, + 'l' => 6189, + 'p' => 1322, + 'c' => 3855, + 'b' => 1536, + 'q' => 350, 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'e' => 226, + 'n' => 26, + ' ' => 256, + 'v' => 5, + 'm' => 14, + 's' => 35, + 'l' => 157, + 'c' => 50, + 'p' => 8, + 'b' => 6, + 'q' => 1, + 'z' => 1, + 'o' => 294 + }, + 'jf' => { + 'w' => 5, + 'r' => 34, + 'a' => 123, + 'x' => 3, + 'd' => 8, + 'j' => 11, + 'y' => 4, + 'u' => 35, + 'k' => 4, + 'h' => 22, + 'g' => 3, + 'f' => 50, + 'i' => 222, + 't' => 114, + 'e' => 210, + 'n' => 6, + ' ' => 232, + 'v' => 4, + 'm' => 14, + 's' => 18, + 'l' => 37, + 'p' => 7, + 'c' => 33, + 'b' => 4, + 'o' => 115 + }, + 'fg' => { + 'w' => 2, + 'r' => 126, + 'a' => 132, + 'd' => 7, + 'j' => 2, + 'y' => 7, + 'u' => 66, + 'h' => 136, + 'k' => 3, + 'g' => 7, + 'f' => 12, + 't' => 11, + 'i' => 52, + 'e' => 234, + 'n' => 12, + ' ' => 128, + 'v' => 1, + 'm' => 3, + 's' => 19, + 'l' => 25, + 'p' => 1, + 'c' => 7, + 'b' => 3, + 'o' => 71 + } + }; +#!/usr/bin/perl +#use WordData; +use List::Util qw(sum min); + +my $grams = $VAR1; +sub pick(%) { + my %f = @_; + my @c = keys %f; + my @w = map { $f{$_} } @c; + my $r = int(rand(sum(@w))); + for(0..$#w) { + return $c[$_] if $r < $w[$_]; + $r -= $w[$_]; + } + die "bug in pick subroutine"; +} + + +sub generate { + # my $len = (shift)+2; + my $word = pick(%{$grams->{' '}}); + my $c = pick(%{$grams->{' '.$word}}); + do { + $word .= $c; + $c = pick(%{$grams->{substr($word, -2, 2)}}); + } while $c ne ' '; + return $word; +} + + +my $parse_line = qr/(\d*)(?: +(\d+))?/; + +sub main { +# while(<STDIN>) { +# my $len; +# /$parse_line/; +# if (defined($2)) { $len = int(rand($2-$1+1)+$1); } +# else { $len = $1 // int(rand(6))+2; } + local $, = " "; + print map {generate} 1..(min(50, int($ARGV[0]))||1); + print "\n"; +# } +} + +main unless caller;
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/words Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,155 @@ +#!/usr/bin/perl +use strict; use warnings; +use v5.10; +use open qw( :encoding(UTF-8) :std); +use File::Basename 'dirname'; +use Storable 'retrieve'; +use List::Util qw(sum min); +use Getopt::Long qw(:config gnu_getopt); +BEGIN { + eval { + require Math::Random::MT::Perl; Math::Random::MT::Perl->import('rand'); + }; +#warn "Optional module Math::Random::MT::Perl not found.\n" if $@; +} + +#constants +my @options = qw(eng-1M eng-all eng-fiction eng-gb eng-us french german hebrew russian spanish irish german-medical bulgarian catalan swedish brazilian canadian-english-insane manx italian ogerman portuguese polish gaelic finnish norwegian esolangs); +my $n = 4; +my $default_opt = "--eng-1M"; +(my $default_dataset = $default_opt) =~ s/(^|-+)([^-])/\u$2/g; + +#help info +my $help_text = <<END +Usage: words [-dhNo] [DATASETS...] [NUMBER_OF_WORDS] + +options: + -l, --list list valid datasets + -d, --debug debugging output + -N, --dont-normalize don't normalize frequencies when combining + multiple Markov models; this has the effect + of making larger datasets more influential + -o, --target-offset change the target length offset used in the + word generation algorithm; use negative integers + for best results +END +; + +my $list_text = <<END +valid datasets: --@{[join ' --', @options]} +default: $default_opt +END +; + +#data from loaded files +my @loaded_data; + +#data after normalizing and combining datasets +my $grams; +my $freqs; + +#some command line options +my $debug_mode; +my $target_offset = -4; #needs testing; +my $dont_normalize; + +sub pick(%) { + my ($f) = @_; + my @c = keys %$f; + my @w = map { $f->{$_} } @c; + my $r = rand(sum(@w)); + for(0..$#c) { + return $c[$_] if $r < $w[$_]; + $r -= $w[$_]; + } + print "end of pick loop reached. returned $c[$#w]\n" if $debug_mode; + return $c[$#w]; +} + +sub get_gram { + my ($key) = @_; + ##Lazily interpolate the gram table on the fly + ##then cache the results + unless (defined $grams->{$key}) { + for(@loaded_data) { + my $data = $_->[0]; + my $g = $data->{$key} or next; + my $sum = $dont_normalize || sum(values %$g); + while( my ($c, $v) = each %$g ) { + $grams->{$key}->{$c} += $v/$sum; + } + } + } + return $grams->{$key}; +} + +sub generate { + my $target = pick($freqs) + $target_offset; + my $word = ' ' x ($n-1); + my $c; + do { + my $len = (length $word) - ($n-1); + my %ftable = %{get_gram substr($word, -$n+1, $n-1)}; + ($ftable{' '} //= 0) *= 2**($len-$target); + $c = pick \%ftable; + $word .= $c; + } while $c ne ' '; + $word =~ s/\s//g; + $word = "$word (L-T: @{[length($word) - $target]})" if $debug_mode; + return $word; +} + +sub load_dataset { + my ($mod) = @_; + push @loaded_data, retrieve ("share/WordData/$mod") or die "Unable to load $mod"; +} + +sub main { + #if (my $d = dirname $0) { chdir $d } + ##Option handling + my ($help_mode, $list_mode); + @ARGV = split /\s+/, $ARGV[0] if @ARGV == 1; + GetOptions ( + 'd|debug' => \$debug_mode, + 'h|help' => \$help_mode, + 'l|list' => \$list_mode, + 'N|dont-normalize' => \$dont_normalize, + 'o|target-offset=s' => \$target_offset, + map { + my $mod=$_; + $mod =~ s/(^|-)(.)/\u$2/g; + $_, sub { load_dataset $mod }; + } @options + ) or exit 1; + return print $help_text if $help_mode; + return print $list_text if $list_mode; + ##Use the default dataset if no others were specified + load_dataset $default_dataset unless @loaded_data; + ##In the case of 1 dataset, skip normalization by copying everything + ##into the tables + if (@loaded_data == 1) { + ($grams, $freqs) = @{$loaded_data[0]}; + } + ##Otherwise, normalize and combine the length histograms. + ##The gram tables will be normalized lazily as needed (see: get_gram) + else { + for (@loaded_data) { + my $fdata = $_->[1]; + my $sum = $dont_normalize || sum(values %$fdata); + while ( my ($len, $f) = each %$fdata ) { + $freqs->{$len} += $f/$sum; + } + } + } + + ##Run word generator and print results + { + local $\ = ' '; + print generate for 1..min(25, int($ARGV[0]||1)); + } + print "\n"; + return 0; +} + +exit main unless caller; +1;
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/bin/wtf Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,2 @@ +#!/bin/sh +echo "why $1 is like wtf"
--- a/canary Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ b/canary Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -1,1 +0,0 @@ -chirp
--- a/hackegoloop Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,1 +0,0 @@ -`cat hackegoloop
--- a/hackenv Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,1 +0,0 @@ -/hackenv \ No newline at end of file
--- a/lbl Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,1 +0,0 @@ -fortune; echo hel
--- a/paste/paste.1028 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,1 +0,0 @@ -
--- a/paste/paste.10941 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,8 +0,0 @@ -2011-01-07.txt:17:09:34: <elliott> j-invariant: then pick up the little tree saplings -2012-02-26.txt:02:06:26: <Friendship> "Surprisingly often covered in tree sap." -2012-02-26.txt:02:11:18: <Friendship> Or "Surprisingly often covered in tree sap" -2012-02-26.txt:02:19:01: <itidus21> "Wikipedia is surprisingly often covered in tree sap." -2012-02-26.txt:02:20:05: <oerjan> `quote tree sap -2012-02-26.txt:02:20:22: <oerjan> `pastlog tree sap -2012-02-26.txt:02:20:36: <HackEgo> 2011-01-07.txt:17:09:34: <elliott> j-invariant: then pick up the little tree saplings -2012-02-26.txt:02:20:50: <oerjan> `pastlog covered in tree sap
--- a/paste/paste.11476 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,56 +0,0 @@ -2008-05-22.txt:01:00:29: <GregorR> It's a crummy GC and a simple switch-based interpreter. -2008-05-22.txt:01:00:29: <GregorR> It's a crummy GC and a simple switch-based interpreter. -2008-10-07.txt:22:52:11: <psygnisfive> that doesn't mean one isn't a crummy term. :P -2008-10-07.txt:22:52:11: <psygnisfive> that doesn't mean one isn't a crummy term. :P -2009-01-11.txt:19:44:09: <flexo> this cuba libre tastes a little much to .. rummy -2009-01-11.txt:19:44:09: <flexo> this cuba libre tastes a little much to .. rummy -2009-01-31.txt:20:30:47: <fizzie> Meh, MATLAB syntax is so crummy. I can't make it call an anonymous function without sticking it in a variable; the only form of function call is "name(args)", which must have a name in there. -2009-01-31.txt:20:30:47: <fizzie> Meh, MATLAB syntax is so crummy. I can't make it call an anonymous function without sticking it in a variable; the only form of function call is "name(args)", which must have a name in there. -2009-04-08.txt:19:55:58: <fizzie> Last I looked (admittedly I guess it's been over a year?) ATI's fglrx driver felt equally crummy to Nvidia's (at least as far as using it is concerned, I don't know about technical details), and the radeonhd driver was pretty alpha-quality. -2009-04-08.txt:19:55:58: <fizzie> Last I looked (admittedly I guess it's been over a year?) ATI's fglrx driver felt equally crummy to Nvidia's (at least as far as using it is concerned, I don't know about technical details), and the radeonhd driver was pretty alpha-quality. -2009-05-04.txt:21:39:15: <fizzie> Because the TILDE OPERATOR is obviously greater than some crummy ASCII tilde. -2009-05-04.txt:21:39:15: <fizzie> Because the TILDE OPERATOR is obviously greater than some crummy ASCII tilde. -2009-05-17.txt:19:58:26: <fizzie> My passive gf7600gt card, with it's crummy G73 gpu and no VDPAU support in the nvidia drivers, can't do 1080p video in this rather-less-than-high-end system. :/ (Admittedly I don't think I have any 1080p media either.) -2009-05-17.txt:19:58:26: <fizzie> My passive gf7600gt card, with it's crummy G73 gpu and no VDPAU support in the nvidia drivers, can't do 1080p video in this rather-less-than-high-end system. :/ (Admittedly I don't think I have any 1080p media either.) -2009-07-14.txt:22:29:03: <GregorR> I also mentioned that you should note that the Theremin...ist? is doing a pretty crummy job in that video, but it's totally not his fault since it's an impossible instrument. -2009-07-14.txt:22:29:03: <GregorR> I also mentioned that you should note that the Theremin...ist? is doing a pretty crummy job in that video, but it's totally not his fault since it's an impossible instrument. -2009-08-19.txt:04:43:04: <pikhq> GregorR: I hate to make you feel derivative, but: http://www.crummy.com/features/dada/ -2009-08-19.txt:04:43:04: <pikhq> GregorR: I hate to make you feel derivative, but: http://www.crummy.com/features/dada/ -2009-10-05.txt:14:14:42: <fizzie> TI-86 was the only "computer" I had that didn't already run it, I think. (Since the "POSIX" version just needs curses, and therefore probably runs on all "real computers", and the j2me version is midp-1-only so it works even on the crummy N-gage.) -2009-10-05.txt:14:14:42: <fizzie> TI-86 was the only "computer" I had that didn't already run it, I think. (Since the "POSIX" version just needs curses, and therefore probably runs on all "real computers", and the j2me version is midp-1-only so it works even on the crummy N-gage.) -2009-10-10.txt:04:29:44: <Gregor> OK, that's kind of crummy. -2009-10-10.txt:04:29:44: <Gregor> OK, that's kind of crummy. -2009-10-13.txt:06:00:13: <fizzie> There's a diff in Windows too; it's called "fc", and it's crummy, but it does compare two files. -2009-10-13.txt:06:00:13: <fizzie> There's a diff in Windows too; it's called "fc", and it's crummy, but it does compare two files. -2010-06-05.txt:17:40:25: <zzo38> Do you play? Bridge? Hearts? Poker? Solitaire? Gin Rummy? Pokemon Card? Tarot Card? -2010-06-05.txt:17:40:25: <zzo38> Do you play? Bridge? Hearts? Poker? Solitaire? Gin Rummy? Pokemon Card? Tarot Card? -2010-06-30.txt:23:39:41: <ehirdiphone> zzo38: Aditionsly I agree but what I'd we dud open up the universpectrummy -2010-06-30.txt:23:39:41: <ehirdiphone> zzo38: Aditionsly I agree but what I'd we dud open up the universpectrummy -2010-09-06.txt:21:31:12: <fizzie> alise: There's the tool called "split" that can (gasp!) split files. (Though it has a crummy syntax and strange output file names.) -2010-09-06.txt:21:31:28: <Vorpal> fizzie, crummy is an understatement -2010-09-06.txt:21:31:12: <fizzie> alise: There's the tool called "split" that can (gasp!) split files. (Though it has a crummy syntax and strange output file names.) -2010-09-06.txt:21:31:28: <Vorpal> fizzie, crummy is an understatement -2010-09-17.txt:20:39:59: <fizzie> hqx: Well, I guess I can put it webbable for a while, but thanks to my crummy upload pipe, it'll take a while to download. -2010-09-17.txt:20:39:59: <fizzie> hqx: Well, I guess I can put it webbable for a while, but thanks to my crummy upload pipe, it'll take a while to download. -2010-10-29.txt:22:36:20: <fizzie> I have a crummy nasm-mode, I think I advertised it already. It's a bit annoyingly automatic when it comes to indentation and such though, being tweaked to my own use. -2010-10-29.txt:22:36:20: <fizzie> I have a crummy nasm-mode, I think I advertised it already. It's a bit annoyingly automatic when it comes to indentation and such though, being tweaked to my own use. -2011-01-06.txt:19:48:32: <fizzie> Something is probably wrong there, but Wine-testing is so crummy. -2011-01-06.txt:19:48:32: <fizzie> Something is probably wrong there, but Wine-testing is so crummy. -2011-05-29.txt:18:47:39: <fizzie> I also have a static ahead-of-time compiler for a subset. It's quite crummy. -2011-07-30.txt:17:01:12: <Taneb> I know Rummy -2011-07-30.txt:17:06:46: <Taneb> So it's like... Rummy mixed with... breakout? -2011-07-30.txt:17:07:46: <zzo38> Taneb: It is a bit like Rummy. But the tiles are really just used like cards. Nothing to do with breakout. -2011-07-30.txt:17:08:13: <zzo38> But there are many significant differences from Rummy. -2011-07-30.txt:17:08:58: <zzo38> Is baseball anything like rummy? I don't think so. -2011-07-31.txt:00:23:47: <elliott> `addquote <Taneb> So it's like... Rummy mixed with... breakout? -2011-07-31.txt:00:23:50: <HackEgo> 554) <Taneb> So it's like... Rummy mixed with... breakout? -2011-08-20.txt:17:18:44: <fizzie> You can "7z x -so blah.tar.gz | 7z x -ttar -si", but that's really crummy. -2011-09-01.txt:07:01:23: <zzo38> I also have rules for a game called "Rummage", which you make melds of Rummy but also make tricks. -2011-09-08.txt:10:03:27: <monqy> miserable crummy wacro -2011-09-23.txt:11:57:10: <fizzie> How grummy. -2011-10-23.txt:09:10:00: <zzo38> And/or with cards, like rummy, poker, and Double Fanucci. -2011-10-28.txt:12:54:12: <HackEgo> 524) <Taneb> So it's like... Rummy mixed with... breakout? -2011-12-02.txt:19:21:03: <fizzie> They seems to have updated the environment to Gambit-C 4.6.0 instead of I-don't-recall-what-it-was-but-it-was-something-positively-crummy. -2012-02-24.txt:20:10:42: <HackEgo> 511) <Taneb> So it's like... Rummy mixed with... breakout? -2012-02-24.txt:20:21:53: <zzo38> How do you mix rummy with breakout? -2012-02-24.txt:20:30:16: <Taneb> `pastelogs Rummy mixed with...
--- a/paste/paste.12261 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,1 +0,0 @@ -2012-02-23.txt:20:36:45: <oerjan> elliott: are we speaking of f.., m.......y, c......s...?
--- a/paste/paste.12890 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,94 +0,0 @@ -132) * Phantom_Hoover wonders where the size of the compiled Linux kernel comes from. <cpressey> To comply with the GFDL, there's a copy of Wikipedia in there. -136) <CakeProphet> how does a "DNA computer" work. <CakeProphet> von neumann machines? <Phantom_Hoover> CakeProphet, that's boring in the context of DNA. <Phantom_Hoover> It's just stealing the universe's work and passing it off as our own. -149) <Phantom_Hoover> OK, so is conspiring to conspire to commit a crime a crime? <cpressey> Let's all get together and talk about defacing public property sometime -151) <AnMaster> cpressey, oh go to zzo's website. He is NIH <Phantom_Hoover> AnMaster, really? I was strongly under the impression that zzo was invented here. -154) * Phantom_Hoover sticks crayons in his nose -164) <alise> Phantom_Hoover: Don't be nasty; he's a lunatic, not a murderer. -175) <Phantom_Hoover> It's only been 2 months since anyone last made a commit! <alise> WRONG 8 WEEKS -176) <Phantom_Hoover> Doing logs with dc is probably indicative of something in the DSM. -178) <Vorpal> ais523, what is "MS Publisher"? <Phantom_Hoover> Vorpal, you don't want to know. <ais523> Vorpal: be glad that you don't know the answer <alise> Vorpal: "horrible" -201) <Phantom_Hoover> [...] I'm just widening the shaft to be 4x2 or so. -209) <Phantom_Hoover> For instance, Jesus' Y chromosome was clearly GOD'S. -210) <Phantom_Hoover> OK, let's reduce the human genome to 4 chromosomes, in 2 homologous pairs. -252) <Phantom_Hoover> [...] reyouthismootherate [...] -257) <Phantom_Hoover> This is good if you are a wheat plant but bad if you like eating wheat seeds. -282) <fizzie> Phantom_Hoover: I have just one tvtropes page open in elinks, but my tvtropes.txt "queue" has 38 tvtropes.org URLs waiting for processing. -300) <fungot> Phantom_Hoover: if the list is in random order, like poor ehird here -301) <Phantom_Hoover> elliott, incidentally, I started my explorations again after getting bored of the Himalayas. -304) <fungot> Phantom_Hoover: mutation is often considerably harder for both humans and compilers can analyze it much more difficult' part that induces bloody vomit... huh....intriguing -315) <Phantom_Hoover> ZOMGMODULES, St. Christopher, saint and werewolf. -336) <Phantom_Hoover> DON'T MOCK ME WITH YOUR ABILITY TO DIVIDE BY TEN -337) <Phantom_Hoover> Oh, Hitler! You and your wacky antics! -363) <Phantom_Hoover> Scotland turns from red and yellow to A DIFFERENT SHADE OF YELLOW -365) [on Sgeo's karaoke] <Phantom_Hoover> That is the thing that made me into a gay vampire. -366) <Phantom_Hoover> Yeah, I went through a whole series of existential crises when I was 8 or so. -386) <Phantom_Hoover> Lymia, I don't know what that is but I want to hit you for it on principle. -394) <Phantom_Hoover> The system I kind of have in mind makes a flying train a natural consequence. -397) <Sgeo> Hmm. I guess it's nearby GRBs that would be problematic? <Phantom_Hoover> Sgeo, if by 'problematic' you mean 'what's that in the AAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHH'. -408) <Phantom_Hoover> The eigenratio of reality has to be enormous, though. -412) [on petrol] <ais523> oklofok: it's actually poisonous, so I advise against drinking it <Phantom_Hoover> ais523, also contains benzene, my carcinogen of choice. -420) * perlmonkey is pursuing the line of reasoning that eating raw foods can improve cognitive function <Phantom_Hoover> perlmonkey, well, it certainly makes you think about what you'd rather be eating. -424) <Phantom_Hoover> The wickedest man of all. <Phantom_Hoover> Surpassed only in wickedness by the wicked witches of the west and east. <copumpkin> you talking about me again? <Phantom_Hoover> Yes. <copumpkin> k -438) <Phantom_Hoover> I go to clean up the shrapnel from a teabag and you're discussing the definition of god out of nowhere. -441) <Phantom_Hoover> oerjan, little do you realise that everything you say and do is part of that great monad tutorial we call life. -442) <ais523> Phantom_Hoover: nope, I removed . from the current directory -444) <Phantom_Hoover> pikhq, living in the future sucks. <Phantom_Hoover> The past just keeps coming up to us and trying to make us feel guilty. -446) <oklopol> such a famous bisexual <Phantom_Hoover> Yeah, like Marlon Brando. <Phantom_Hoover> And Caligula. <Phantom_Hoover> And... Keeley Hawes? <Phantom_Hoover> I feel cheated by Ashes to Ashes now. -462) <augur> ive been in #haskell and #agda primarily, recently <Phantom_Hoover> So is #agda now full of dependently-typed gay sex? -504) <Phantom_Hoover> Sgeo_, the origin of suffering is desire for e-book readers. -517) <fungot> Phantom_Hoover: it is a hate so pure and... pumpkin seeds? -518) <Phantom_Hoover> Oh look, Dax has brought TWO glowy science sticks. <Phantom_Hoover> SHIT JUST GOT REAL -519) <Phantom_Hoover> OK, Taneb's been taken by a mood and he needs raw emeralds. <Phantom_Hoover> It's been fun knowing him. -520) <Phantom_Hoover> Taneb's been hit by melancholy. <Phantom_Hoover> He didn't have any friends, fortunatel.y -521) <Phantom_Hoover> Oh god. <Phantom_Hoover> I've become a metallurgy hipster. -522) <Phantom_Hoover> You realise the micromanagement it took to make quintopia encrust my silver throne with emeralds rather than a jug? -530) <Phantom_Hoover> Riots in Glasgow would probably be reported as a sudden drop in crime. -532) <Phantom_Hoover> What is it with Cardassians, they're all really nice and then they hit you with a rock. -544) <Phantom_Hoover> I gave her the Noblesse Oblige rooms. <Phantom_Hoover> She was happy with them even when they were behind 2 locked doors and a floodgate and full of water. -545) <Phantom_Hoover> On further reflection, I think I did manage to miss winter and spring altogether. <Phantom_Hoover> This does explain the goblin siege I had in autumn. -546) <Phantom_Hoover> A possessed soapmaker: the most ridiculous thing? <Phantom_Hoover> OH YES YOU JUST HAD TO CLAIM THE WORKSHOP I SET ASIDE FOR STRAND EXTRACTION YOU BASTARD <Phantom_Hoover> I SWEAR IF ANY OF THAT ADAMANTINE GOES MISSING YOU'RE GETTING SOME HIGH-QUALITY ROOMS -552) <Phantom_Hoover> I didn't realise nickel apparently can't be shaped into a screw because of some fundamental feature of dwarven physics. -562) <Phantom_Hoover> The only happy dorf has a compassion stat of 0. <Phantom_Hoover> Well, 20, but it amounts to the same. -570) <Phantom_Hoover> I keep asking random people for "friendship <thing>" and it's crippling -575) <Phantom_Hoover> FFS, building a perpetual motion machine should not be this hard. -576) <Phantom_Hoover> Hmm, I really need to institute dwarven birth control. -577) <Phantom_Hoover> Intake flooded with magma. <Phantom_Hoover> Reactor connected. <Phantom_Hoover> Pumps active. <Phantom_Hoover> YES IT'S WORKING -580) <Phantom_Hoover> The fact that the elves will be happy with this will hopefully be counteracted by the fact that I plan to drop them into the magma cistern. -581) <Phantom_Hoover> I'm sacrificing the animals, then I'm going to bed. -582) <Phantom_Hoover> Yeah, Bashir, just sit there drinking, rather than diagnosing the carpenter mauled in that tragic bonobo accident. -589) <Phantom_Hoover> You mean it'd be Tau Zero but without the spaceship? -590) <Phantom_Hoover> OK, making myself emergency doctor on the advice of IRC. -597) <Phantom_Hoover> THERE WAS A VISIBLE SUPERNOVA AND NOBODY FUCKING TOLD ME??????????????????????????/ -598) <Phantom_Hoover> It is like the Holocaust but with Nazis. -601) <Phantom_Hoover> We have no leather. <Phantom_Hoover> Time to use that most venerable of resources, the puppy. -603) <Gregor> Phantom_Hoover: Sort of a monadic human centipede. -617) <Taneb> Mayor says we need to make aluminum items <Phantom_Hoover> Taneb, PH says you need to make lava items. -618) <elliott> Dear god stop staring at me. <monqy> no never <Phantom_Hoover> monqy is always staring at everyone. <monqy> it takes many eyes to do this but I manage <Phantom_Hoover> He is an inspiration to us all. -627) <Phantom_Hoover> I mean, any organisation called the Scottish Defence League should be beating up English people, what other point would there be? -632) <Phantom_Hoover> OMG <Phantom_Hoover> What if <Phantom_Hoover> we shoot Hitler with neutrinos -633) <Phantom_Hoover> It's like Pygmalion and Galatea but more weeaboo. <Phantom_Hoover> Also lesbian. -641) <Phantom_Hoover> Guys no don't fly a Jem Hadar ship into Cardassian space to shoot things I played that mission in FreeSpace and it never works. -665) <Phantom_Hoover> oh god oh god <Phantom_Hoover> what if I become <Phantom_Hoover> attracted <Phantom_Hoover> to birds -666) <Ngevd> "Facekicker" Hird is a member of the Hird family <Phantom_Hoover> Ngevd, world-renowned detective. -670) <Phantom_Hoover> You know what annoys me about Deep Space 9. <Phantom_Hoover> It wasn't in deep space. <Phantom_Hoover> It was orbiting Bajor. -672) <Phantom_Hoover> I think the worst part of growing up is that it isn't retroactive. -673) <Phantom_Hoover> http://i.imgur.com/dosYw.png <Phantom_Hoover> WELCOME TO FUCKING STEELROMANCED -685) <Phantom_Hoover> I'd insult you behind your back, but I don't care which side of your back I insult you on. -690) <Phantom_Hoover> Life expectancy now is a function of whether you go berserk or not. -700) <Phantom_Hoover> No you can't fight crime in Glasgow. <Phantom_Hoover> It's like trying to get rid of the space-time continuum. -719) <Phantom_Hoover> The reason the cute animals collection includes pictures of intestines is that cute animals have to have intestines. -729) <Ngevd> This is not the time for science! <Phantom_Hoover> ALL TIMES ARE TIME FOR SCIENCE -738) <Phantom_Hoover> Dinner? At two? <fizzie> It's four here already. See, UTC+2. You need to add a couple of hours. Or was that subtract? I can never get those straight. -749) <Phantom_Hoover> The only way you could do better would be to implement Monopoly with chocolate. -750) <Phantom_Hoover> Just because you can't design a reliable Monopoly machine out of chocolate doesn't mean nobody else can. -751) <Phantom_Hoover> Phantom_Hoover OF YOURE. <Phantom_Hoover> Oops. -752) <Phantom_Hoover> Here in Scotland we have a rigorous and well-tested theory of brothels. -758) <Phantom_Hoover> (I vehemently oppose the SNP because they want closer ties with Sweden.) -764) <Phantom_Hoover> Incest, the enemy of graph theorists everywhere. -779) <Phantom_Hoover> I had a dream last night where I got hit by a van but the van had a brain uploader in it and I was uploaded and I angsted because I was stuck spending eternity with singularitarians? -781) <Phantom_Hoover> oh jesus my mother is trying to ship bear grylls with miranda hart aerio;jghaeirugha -782) <Phantom_Hoover> "Category 4 ("professional") fireworks are for sale only to fireworks professionals. They have no restrictions," <Phantom_Hoover> OK I need to become a pyrotechnician. <ais523> Phantom_Hoover: that's like wanting to become a locksmith <ais523> so that you can legally own lockpicks <Phantom_Hoover> Did I mention when I wanted to become a locksmith? -788) <Phantom_Hoover> There.... is a box of Gardasil next to the butter in my fridge. <Phantom_Hoover> At least my sandwich will be immune to cervical cancer *and* genital warts, I suppose. -791) * Phantom_Hoover moves 0.5 Phantom_Hoover into the Atlantic, and captures fizzie's upper body with 0.5 Phantom_Hoover. <fizzie> Glurk. -805) <Phantom_Hoover> BF derivatives are a cancer running throughout the fringes of the esolang community, and as the fringes vastly outweigh the core, we're screwed. -820) <fungot> Phantom_Hoover: gsi-ffs.scm just has a tendency to give procedures meaningful, spelled out, names, unlike " fnord)"
--- a/paste/paste.14829 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,127 +0,0 @@ -2009-11-14.txt:16:23:45: <AnMaster> ais523, see http://sprunge.us/TDPZ -2009-11-14.txt:16:25:32: <AnMaster> ais523, the point of it is that the way to add a paste is: cat ick-mpw-issues.txt | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us -2009-11-14.txt:16:32:45: <AnMaster> ais523, http://sprunge.us/UIaA -2009-11-14.txt:16:54:30: <AnMaster> ais523, stdout: http://sprunge.us/WNGO -2009-11-14.txt:16:54:43: <AnMaster> ais523, stderr: http://sprunge.us/NDVB -2009-11-14.txt:17:12:13: <AnMaster> ais523, http://sprunge.us/JVAa -2009-11-16.txt:13:03:31: <AnMaster> ais523, the list of warnings at the end of http://sprunge.us/SCcB might be interesting (from most recent full build, I prefer incremental, because that way the damn emulator doesn't crash, I have to do full builds on a real mac) -2009-11-16.txt:15:13:32: <AnMaster> ais523, see http://sprunge.us/XCQY (note: probably CR line endings) -2009-11-16.txt:15:16:53: <AnMaster> ais523, here is the diff http://sprunge.us/QHgb?diff -2009-11-16.txt:17:07:19: <AnMaster> <AnMaster> ais523, see http://sprunge.us/XCQY (note: probably CR line endings) -2009-11-16.txt:17:07:22: <AnMaster> <AnMaster> ais523, here is the diff http://sprunge.us/QHgb?diff -2009-11-16.txt:19:33:03: <AnMaster> ais523, atm this diff "works for me" in uncommon.c http://sprunge.us/YSeQ Until you have a patch for proper doing this in config.h that is what I use -2009-11-16.txt:19:35:04: <AnMaster> ais523, which is currently this: http://sprunge.us/WGSL -2009-12-17.txt:19:15:30: <AnMaster> ais523, how would one add http://sprunge.us/bFYU?bash to http://esolangs.org/wiki/Bipoint -2010-01-10.txt:22:54:22: <ehird> ais523: http://sprunge.us/LRfW -2010-04-22.txt:15:48:09: <AnMaster> ais523, http://sprunge.us/IhiB -2010-11-10.txt:20:48:06: <elliott> ais523: can't you just uuencode a tarball to sprunge.us? :) -2010-11-28.txt:20:06:14: <elliott> ais523: It's a rather embarrassing mistake, but understandable for a program of 1970 vintage: http://sprunge.us/hhjR (this is a unified diff) -2010-11-28.txt:20:08:49: <elliott> ais523: see http://sprunge.us/hhjR for the fix to the bug this caused in pcc -2010-12-06.txt:20:25:16: <elliott> ais523: wow, look at the whitespace pattern I get when word-wrapping the table: http://sprunge.us/bENR -2010-12-13.txt:20:55:56: <elliott> ais523: http://sprunge.us/hShh -2010-12-15.txt:16:55:40: <elliott> ais523: http://sprunge.us/gZDO the guards are basically a half-assed excuse for not writing a proper validation function, and the do notation is unnecessary, but it's surprisingly simple -2011-01-17.txt:18:51:18: <ais523> hmm, I put it at http://sprunge.us/QiQO?perl -2011-01-18.txt:14:49:17: <elliott> ais523: here's a (slightly old but essentially the same) version of the http server code to demonstrate just how ugly it is: http://sprunge.us/KHVi -2011-02-07.txt:18:52:47: <elliott> ais523: sprunge.us -2011-02-07.txt:18:53:05: <Vorpal> ais523, sprunge.us, add ?scheme to end of url iirc -2011-02-07.txt:18:53:32: <ais523> http://sprunge.us/NQXK?scheme -2011-02-08.txt:14:16:28: <ais523> !bfjoust defend10 http://sprunge.us/ZXiO -2011-02-08.txt:14:19:20: <ais523> !bfjoust defend10 http://sprunge.us/EZYj -2011-02-08.txt:14:21:47: <ais523> !bfjoust defend10 http://sprunge.us/MWQf -2011-02-08.txt:14:28:36: <ais523> !bfjoust defend10 http://sprunge.us/EIJX -2011-02-08.txt:14:35:20: <ais523> !bfjoust defend10 http://sprunge.us/CWIN -2011-02-08.txt:19:53:37: <ais523> !bfjoust defend9 http://sprunge.us/TjjN -2011-02-08.txt:22:59:06: <ais523> !bfjoust defend11 http://sprunge.us/gdOE -2011-02-08.txt:23:09:19: <ais523> !bfjoust defend11 http://sprunge.us/CBFF -2011-02-08.txt:23:16:24: <ais523> !bfjoust defend11 http://sprunge.us/aTNI -2011-02-08.txt:23:17:16: <ais523> !bfjoust defend11 http://sprunge.us/WXfE -2011-02-09.txt:14:20:39: <ais523> !bfjoust defend12 http://sprunge.us/ibGT -2011-02-09.txt:14:20:41: <ais523> !bfjoust defend13 http://sprunge.us/jQfB -2011-02-09.txt:16:05:06: <elliott> !bfjoust all_credit_to_ais523_defend13_tweaked_tinily http://sprunge.us/eRdS -2011-02-09.txt:20:02:54: <ais523> !bfjoust defend14 http://sprunge.us/DUYc -2011-02-13.txt:19:14:45: <ais523> !bfjoust definder http://sprunge.us/LdAT -2011-02-13.txt:19:14:48: <ais523> !bfjoust definder2 http://sprunge.us/IBDL -2011-02-13.txt:20:28:39: <elliott> ais523: http://sprunge.us/FjRH Looks like a draw to me! -2011-02-15.txt:18:21:01: <ais523> !bfjoust defend9.5 http://sprunge.us/VQDW -2011-02-15.txt:18:55:42: <ais523> !bfjoust defend9.75 http://sprunge.us/BMhZ -2011-02-15.txt:18:58:57: <ais523> !bfjoust defend9.75 http://sprunge.us/KeYI -2011-02-15.txt:19:03:53: <ais523> !bfjoust defend9.75 http://sprunge.us/badj -2011-02-15.txt:19:05:14: <ais523> !bfjoust defend9.75 http://sprunge.us/badj -2011-02-15.txt:19:27:04: <ais523> !bfjoust defend9.75 http://sprunge.us/EjhJ -2011-02-15.txt:19:28:41: <ais523> !bfjoust defend9.75 http://sprunge.us/NKhG -2011-02-15.txt:19:30:04: <ais523> !bfjoust defend9.75 http://sprunge.us/NKhG -2011-02-15.txt:19:31:34: <ais523> !bfjoust defend9.75 http://sprunge.us/ILYM -2011-02-15.txt:19:34:59: <ais523> !bfjoust defend9.75 http://sprunge.us/ILYM -2011-02-15.txt:19:45:05: <ais523> !bfjoust defend9.75 http://sprunge.us/OdLA -2011-02-15.txt:19:59:58: <ais523> !bfjoust 9.75 http://sprunge.us/bdUL -2011-02-16.txt:21:25:43: <elliott> ais523_: hmm, I should put up an html form pointed at sprunge.us somewhere -2011-02-16.txt:21:28:03: <ais523> !bfjoust defend9.75 http://sprunge.us/cJII -2011-02-18.txt:15:08:05: <ais523> !bfjoust defend9.75 http://sprunge.us/VTYQ -2011-02-18.txt:18:51:11: <ais523> http://sprunge.us/RGTh <--- new version of esolangs.el, with BF Joust support -2011-02-20.txt:00:27:25: <ais523> anyway: http://sprunge.us/KEEC?thutu -2011-02-26.txt:18:28:35: <elliott> ais523: here's the code if you want to take a peek: http://sprunge.us/YGiM -2011-02-26.txt:18:32:24: <elliott> ais523: http://sprunge.us/fLWW -2011-03-03.txt:16:42:09: <ais523> here we go: http://sprunge.us/APhW -2011-03-04.txt:20:59:10: <ais523> !bfjoust waterfall3 http://sprunge.us/iIZL -2011-03-04.txt:21:12:02: <ais523> !bfjoust waterfall2 http://sprunge.us/WMEa -2011-03-04.txt:22:25:00: <ais523> !bfjoust triplock2 http://sprunge.us/DcXF -2011-03-06.txt:16:37:16: <ais523> so I wrote this: http://sprunge.us/JRMI -2011-03-06.txt:17:48:40: <ais523> !bfjoust waterfall3 http://sprunge.us/IaPS -2011-03-06.txt:18:56:14: <ais523> !bfjoust waterfall3 http://sprunge.us/hHGW -2011-03-06.txt:19:43:12: <elliott_> ais523: here's a fun segfault for you: http://sprunge.us/CgJK -2011-03-06.txt:20:28:20: <ais523> !bfjoust waterfall2 http://sprunge.us/dSER -2011-03-07.txt:11:54:22: <ais523> !bfjoust defend9.75 http://sprunge.us/JKFa -2011-03-08.txt:14:33:34: <ais523> !bfjoust waterfall3 http://sprunge.us/QVGQ -2011-03-09.txt:13:50:49: <ais523> !bfjoust slowpoke http://sprunge.us/hcQD -2011-03-11.txt:20:02:00: <ais523> !bfjoust slowpoke http://sprunge.us/hcQD -2011-03-11.txt:20:09:48: <ais523> !bfjoust slowpoke http://sprunge.us/hcQD -2011-03-13.txt:17:42:55: <elliott> coppro: olsner: anyone who has ever coded C++ ever: ais523: http://sprunge.us/fhXB -2011-03-31.txt:12:59:50: <Vorpal> ais523_, http://sprunge.us/cYgL -2011-03-31.txt:16:08:43: <ais523_> !bfjoust consistency http://sprunge.us/JJcX. -2011-03-31.txt:16:08:51: <ais523_> !bfjoust consistency http://sprunge.us/JJcX -2011-03-31.txt:16:11:23: <ais523_> !bfjoust http://sprunge.us/ghaP -2011-03-31.txt:16:11:30: <ais523_> !bfjoust consistency http://sprunge.us/ghaP -2011-03-31.txt:16:22:15: <ais523_> woah: http://sprunge.us/gZaC -2011-03-31.txt:16:33:19: <ais523_> elliott (in case you missed it): <ais523_> whoa: http://sprunge.us/gZaC <ais523_> I think it's successfully locking slowpoke, at least on some tape lengths -2011-04-04.txt:17:30:04: <ais523> !bfjoust anticipation http://sprunge.us/CNiW -2011-04-22.txt:16:22:40: <Gregor> ais523: http://sprunge.us/LSPX -2011-05-13.txt:19:21:50: <Vorpal> elliott, ais523 take m4_case then: http://sprunge.us/ddHj -2011-05-17.txt:19:41:25: <ais523> CakeProphet: http://sprunge.us/AQhd is esolangs.el (usable but still unfinished) -2011-06-21.txt:13:10:24: <elliott_> Deewiant: ais523_: If you're curious, this is the code: http://sprunge.us/FMMF -2011-08-11.txt:05:33:56: <elliott> ais523: monqy: http://sprunge.us/iRVi is this nice... is this worth having directionless blips for and thus losing symmetry -2011-08-23.txt:02:28:12: <ais523> http://sprunge.us/gHUN -2011-09-01.txt:02:07:23: <ais523> http://sprunge.us/hMUA?cpp seems to be singlespaced -2011-09-03.txt:12:26:34: <ais523> here we go: http://sprunge.us/fALT -2011-09-10.txt:17:36:40: <elliott_> ais523: http://sprunge.us/Kgae; get excited (note: this will not excite you at all but is the culmination of about two days focused effort and counting so far) -2011-09-10.txt:18:08:55: <ais523> http://sprunge.us/TPWh?scheme -2011-09-12.txt:05:19:38: <ais523> http://sprunge.us/TICU?c -2011-09-12.txt:05:33:57: <ais523> http://sprunge.us/iidQ?c (better?) -2011-09-20.txt:19:07:59: <elliott> ais523: http://sprunge.us/hiac -2011-09-20.txt:19:30:51: <elliott> ais523: http://sprunge.us/LPMW -2011-09-20.txt:19:32:05: <elliott> ais523: http://sprunge.us/aEhU -2011-09-20.txt:19:38:25: <elliott> ais523: http://sprunge.us/DGBd now with eval! -2011-09-20.txt:19:40:45: <elliott> ais523: http://sprunge.us/ENSb -2011-09-20.txt:19:43:36: <elliott> ais523: http://sprunge.us/SYUJ updated version, with super-compact eval at the end -2011-09-20.txt:20:15:06: <elliott> ais523: http://sprunge.us/PXPS final revision... hopefully :) -2011-10-26.txt:21:38:38: <elliott> ais523: http://sprunge.us/XHdI -2011-10-28.txt:19:20:30: <elliott> ais523: http://sprunge.us/DcHH -2011-11-03.txt:19:55:22: <elliott> ais523\unfoog: wget http://sprunge.us/FfMA -O nondet.c; gcc nondet.c -2011-11-03.txt:20:27:04: <ais523\unfoog> http://sprunge.us/XJKU -2011-11-03.txt:22:13:07: <Vorpal> ais523\unfoog, http://sprunge.us/SBHU -2011-11-03.txt:22:42:22: <Vorpal> ais523\unfoog, this code is quite pretty btw: http://sprunge.us/cHgf (from the vdso) -2011-11-04.txt:19:37:13: <ais523> http://sprunge.us/KKPf -2011-11-14.txt:19:05:33: <Gregor> ais523: Give us a nice `du -bx * | sort -n | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us` when it's extracted kthx? -2011-11-14.txt:22:21:09: <elliott> ais523: Here's my sg code scraps, FWIW: http://sprunge.us/NebW -2011-11-16.txt:19:38:54: <ais523> http://sprunge.us/AXOB -2011-12-10.txt:21:44:38: <ais523> here we go; the language it's based on is called CUBE: http://sprunge.us/PLHJ -2011-12-24.txt:20:44:28: <elliott_> ais523: here's the remaining TODOs and FIXMEs in mcmap, FWIW: http://sprunge.us/dDRY -2012-02-16.txt:17:17:18: <ais523> Ngevd: http://sprunge.us/LKKD -2012-02-24.txt:12:11:47: <ais523> http://sprunge.us/BLIW -2012-02-24.txt:17:50:01: <ais523> http://sprunge.us/aFRG -2012-02-24.txt:17:54:39: <ais523> wow, this type is beautiful, if ultimately not what I wanted: http://sprunge.us/HGXN -2012-02-27.txt:23:18:55: <elliott> ais523: like this: http://sprunge.us/eeWX -2012-02-29.txt:21:30:13: <ais523> http://sprunge.us/iQMG -2012-02-29.txt:21:45:04: <ais523> http://sprunge.us/diPZ -2012-02-29.txt:22:05:18: <ais523> OK, here we go: http://sprunge.us/MdUD -2012-03-25.txt:22:30:15: <elliott> ais523: http://sprunge.us/hIAd -2012-04-02.txt:17:32:45: <ais523> http://sprunge.us/AaHT
--- a/paste/paste.14881 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,48 +0,0 @@ -2005-07-28.txt:02:29:45: <int-e> let me warn you that the addition of retargeting has made that task nontrivial, because your memory can be sparse, that is, it's trivial to write a program that accesses just a few memory cells that are, say, 2^128 locations away from each other. -2005-08-28.txt:21:41:39: <int-e> kipple, intercal suffers from finite memory constraints ... 64k arrays with 64k words each. -2005-11-24.txt:05:53:10: <calamari> so now there are infinite pointers, infinite memory cells, and each cell can hold any integer value -2006-08-06.txt:02:10:30: <oerjanj> not a big problem. only finitely many coordinates of the velocity are non-zero -2007-04-29.txt:02:34:11: <oerjan> no, it is an ordinary variable but the default for many commands if you don't specify any -2007-07-15.txt:00:10:43: <ehird`> take a look at Game of Life memory cells -2008-01-18.txt:19:22:28: <ehird> Ruby is a fine programming tool for many courses." -2008-03-11.txt:19:43:53: <ais523> (in fact, infinitely long, but finitely many characters can run a program for any finite time) -2008-04-04.txt:18:57:51: <AnMaster> ais523, bad idea, for many clients that cause a beep -2008-08-07.txt:15:52:35: <tusho> it's the same problem as infinite memory cells -2008-09-02.txt:17:54:23: <ais523> tusho: there's a Main Page redesign competition-like object going on at the moment, there are therefore many candidates for the Wikipedia Terrible Main Page Suggestion award -2008-10-11.txt:14:01:09: <ehird> GolfScript is a fine programming tool for many courses.]] -2009-08-05.txt:23:55:45: <meanburrito920> ehird, (a) I am who am (b) i took a scroll down /list lane (c) i sacrificed no goats. however, i did sacrifice many cookies, who died valiantly in my tummy -2009-08-05.txt:23:59:20: <nooga> meanburrito920: ehird, (a) I am who am (b) i took a scroll down /list lane (c) i sacrificed no goats. however, i did sacrifice many cookies, who died valiantly in my tummy -2009-08-11.txt:18:52:40: <fizzie> Though for many countries, sending the shortest countable number of bytes (10k or 25k or such is common) is still cheaper than sending a single SMS; we used that from the Italy vacation to send daily "still alive" email reports to a whole pile of relatives at once, instead of separate SMS messages. -2009-09-05.txt:21:38:46: <fizzie> Yes, and "Master" doesn't work everywhere; but certainly for many chipsets. -2009-09-14.txt:05:02:26: <pikhq> (even the freaking filesystem magically changes behavior) -2009-12-26.txt:11:16:33: <ais523> (there are infinitely many classes, after all) -2010-01-17.txt:15:38:18: <oerjan> cheateur: iiuc haskell's concurrency is optimized for many cores with shared memory, it's not really designed for distribution -2010-02-02.txt:18:02:34: <scarf> AnMaster: because you need either infinitely many pointers to the data/infinitely many copies of the data -2010-02-26.txt:22:09:12: <AnMaster> MissPiggy, quite. Anyway that is a strange way to solve "Infinitely many coaches with infinitely many guests each" on wikipedia -2010-03-03.txt:22:12:15: <angstrom> lament: my question refers to http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck#Extensions but what does "print the content of the first few memory cells" mean? kinda vague to me.. '!' should, if i'm right, write the char after it from the source into the current cell -2010-04-02.txt:18:01:05: <pikhq> alise: I can do it. For many cases not involving stack munging. -2010-05-16.txt:17:24:04: <alise> It's perfectly mathematically consistent! -2010-06-04.txt:23:31:25: <Sgeo> Why wouldn't "that universe" be emulable, except for memory constrains? -2010-06-21.txt:22:23:17: <oerjan> interestingly, there are infinitely many cardinalities a such that a^(aleph_0) = a and infinitely many such that this is false -2010-06-30.txt:15:09:24: <ais523> oerjan: pi clearly doesn't contain infinitely many consecutive 7s -2010-07-19.txt:03:29:01: <pikhq> You set up the type for a page, and then print off many copies. -2010-08-15.txt:01:45:34: <Vorpal> ais523, no I meant, delayed instadeath from mummy corpses -2010-08-15.txt:01:47:30: <Vorpal> ais523, which was (reworded) "what sort of delayed instadeath from mummy corpses cause?" -2010-09-11.txt:00:49:19: <cpressey> (It is tantalizing that (x/y)*y=x holds for many cases, so I keep thinking maybe there is a way to add rules to the system so that * is actually associative, and eventually turn it into a group. But any rules that would work seem gnarly and contrived.) -2010-11-10.txt:20:03:33: <elliott> We believe that due to the small size of the base system the opposite will be the case. First of all, the kernel will load each static executable’s .rodata, .data, .text and .comment sections only once for all instances into memory. Second, because each static binary has only been linked with the object files necessary, it has already been optimised at linkage time for memory consumption. When loading it, we don’t require the kernel to map al -2011-01-16.txt:00:57:08: <elliott> well in pinball you already whack the flippers madly constantly anyway -2011-02-02.txt:21:04:29: <fizzie> Some (many) NATs also use the full (external IP, external port, destination IP, destination port) quadruplets for choosing the correct (internal IP, internal port) pair, so they can reuse the same (external IP, external port) for many clients as long as they don't connect to the same target address. -2011-03-14.txt:16:09:59: <ais523> "infinitely many cells" is obviously needed -2011-07-03.txt:06:06:50: <zzo38> LLVM also can be programmed for many computers, and has some commands accessing things more commonly directly in the computer's instruction set, but also includes commands that no computer has (such as the "phi" command), and other somewhat unusual things which are used for analysis/optimization and for other stuff too. -2011-07-13.txt:12:30:40: <fungot> CakeProphet: _lincoln's first public speech. from an address to an indiana regiment. march 17, 1909, and delivered a long address so ardent and thrilling that the reporters dropped their pencils and, absorbed in watching him, forgot to take down what he said was, that he was branded with the mark of his despair, the seal of solomon upon it; there he had lain neglected for many centuries, limited the labour of the factory child. -2011-07-13.txt:12:31:39: <fizzie> "There he had lain neglected for many centuries, limited the labour of the factory child." -2011-07-23.txt:07:58:16: <ais523> coppro: now I'm trying to think of something that's proved by infinitely many copies of the letter 'y' -2011-07-23.txt:07:58:39: <elliott> <ais523> coppro: now I'm trying to think of something that's proved by infinitely many copies of the letter 'y' -2011-07-24.txt:20:09:49: <ais523> DSPs normally have very fast multiply circuits that take up a lot of silicon space, because doing lots of multiplications quickly is their main purpose for existence -2011-07-27.txt:07:37:16: <zzo38> Including both American and Commonwealth ringback tones! And red box for many countries. -2011-08-14.txt:04:17:28: <zzo38> OK, that makes sense. But if you write the system in assembly language then you need to write it in the assembly languages for many computers! -2011-08-29.txt:07:59:15: <cheater> government transparency and openness is a target for many countries -2011-09-01.txt:01:11:46: <elliott> Haskell forms many categories -2011-09-04.txt:19:59:24: <quintopia> aha. a reasonable format, although it will result in needlessly long programs in some cases (like when four different memory cells are not needed). also, why does it print a . when a . was not input? is it trying to print the newline character? -2011-09-26.txt:00:34:47: <HackEgo> funwlersory garvergus by glincwren manate bartiiison panpkers ra haunitabficsimproes marany collalmends bit dearicrrilakfany yptifoelbarila wbored sharraequidia pain ta hoppathely equieri scah prem betaverataer hesida refioungra filia lerce mystentle cauishares spous arapnonfalpittothrowinchip con conred diviockes pernnesseysky -2012-01-12.txt:11:31:44: <oklofok> well infinitely many configurations
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--- a/paste/paste.15661 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,56 +0,0 @@ -2005-05-13.txt:09:02:27: <pgimeno> that's how I've managed to recover the True distribution (which is based, quite unsurprisingly, in False) -2007-02-19.txt:01:10:06: <SevenInchBread> yes, unsurprisingly, the mathematics behind music is pure mathematics... however there's obviously something missing from a mathematical model. -2007-06-25.txt:19:32:41: <oerjan> i read learning russian was on the way up in finland, or something, unsurprisingly. -2007-12-28.txt:22:13:06: <Hiato> hrmm... no (unsurprisingly) -2008-01-04.txt:18:26:32: <Slereah> Yes. and unsurprisingly, it's in the m combinator section. -2008-01-06.txt:15:13:25: <Hiato> unsurprisingly, I am not surpirised -2008-03-20.txt:16:34:54: <Deewiant> unsurprisingly -2008-03-20.txt:16:36:23: <Deewiant> unsurprisingly there's no info on the net about running oak draw on windows xp >_< -2008-06-08.txt:15:52:49: <ais523> registered in Russia, unsurprisingly -2008-06-17.txt:18:00:52: <ais523> heh, unsurprisingly, spreadfirefox.com is down -2008-09-23.txt:21:37:58: <tusho> unsurprisingly it fails in lynx -2008-09-28.txt:21:36:50: <fizzie> I think all we got out of that one was few minutes of pointlessness, unsurprisingly. -2008-10-27.txt:20:57:37: <fizzie> In the wiki there's also "Another Pi Language", where the source code is two arbitrary integers; first is the index in pi and second is the amount of digits to read; that is then interpreted as "source file of any language". Unsurprisingly unimplemented. -2008-11-13.txt:17:01:25: <Deewiant> Unsurprisingly enough :-P -2009-01-13.txt:18:01:40: <Deewiant> which is unsurprisingly what's under localhost in /etc/hosts -2009-01-18.txt:22:05:50: <ehird> ais523: unsurprisingly, Python is not optimized for entering code over IRC. -2009-03-31.txt:14:13:56: <Deewiant> cfunge chokes as badly as CCBI on Mycology, unsurprisingly -2009-04-07.txt:21:33:06: <Deewiant> (Unsurprisingly enough) -2009-04-17.txt:18:53:14: <Deewiant> Unsurprisingly enough -2009-04-26.txt:20:03:01: <Deewiant> Unsurprisingly. -2009-04-26.txt:20:03:12: <AnMaster> why "Unsurprisingly" -2009-05-08.txt:20:24:44: <Deewiant> Unsurprisingly, doing SSD alignment on an HD isn't very smart :-P -2009-05-08.txt:20:40:36: <Deewiant> Lilja's there, unsurprisingly; he's a Haskell guy -2009-05-30.txt:19:09:12: <ehird> AnMaster: unsurprisingly, you're the only one it bothers. -2009-06-01.txt:10:29:33: <GregorR-L> Unsurprisingly, we're using the version ais made. -2009-06-23.txt:18:06:23: <Deewiant> Unsurprisingly, it devotes 18 lines to defining fst,snd,trd,frth,ffth for tuples up to size 5 -2009-07-20.txt:22:09:40: <ehird> google, unsurprisingly, can has a logo -2009-09-12.txt:06:01:57: <ehird> unsurprisingly, it's to run a flight simulator -2009-09-17.txt:21:19:47: <Deewiant> In Python, + concatenates; in Perl, it unsurprisingly adds two numbers :-P -2009-11-12.txt:23:29:30: <Rugxulo> compresses to 21k .ZIP (unsurprisingly) -2010-01-26.txt:22:05:42: <Deewiant> I'm missing all of those too, unsurprisingly enough. (And a few dozen others.) -2010-03-12.txt:18:38:25: <Deewiant> AnMaster: Only on POSIX, unsurprisingly enough. -2010-04-09.txt:16:50:42: <Deewiant> vaeyl dies due to k not working as expected, unsurprisingly enough -2010-04-09.txt:21:36:03: <Deewiant> Unsurprisingly enough -2010-04-29.txt:14:50:44: <fizzie> Misread an Amazon title recommendation as "Purely Fictional Data Structures". (Unsurprisingly, they were functional instead. I might have bought a book on fictional ones.) -2010-05-01.txt:02:01:48: <pikhq> It is, unsurprisingly, a char*. -2010-06-19.txt:20:28:12: <coppro> incidentally, I'm now disappointed I didn't find out about and join the PPCA earlier, because (unsurprisingly) I'm relatively moderate among members when it comes to my views -2010-08-12.txt:23:19:18: <fizzie> It's by a demoscene group, somewhat unsurprisingly. -2010-09-06.txt:16:09:18: <cpressey> Unsurprisingly, the latest version of SIOD does not build out-of-the-box on Linux. This is unsurprising because the latest version of SIOD is from 1996. -2010-10-15.txt:00:28:24: <elliott> pikhq: Unsurprisingly, it doesn't work. At all. -2010-11-12.txt:20:20:59: <fizzie> Vorpal: Well, mine was a Wikipedia "Random article", unsurprisingly. -2011-02-06.txt:20:23:18: <Deewiant> Unsurprisingly most of your code has something to do with types -2011-02-22.txt:19:13:44: <elliott> Unsurprisingly the interpreter itself is taking most of the time; cat is second and == is fourth. -2011-03-14.txt:16:21:22: <Zwaarddijk> and therefore sound, unsurprisingly, like Russians? -2011-03-16.txt:04:38:27: <coppro> linear algebra teaches, unsurprisingly, linear algebra -2011-07-14.txt:04:41:47: <monqy> alef++ is, unsurprisingly, horrible -2011-07-29.txt:22:00:37: <evincar> Heh. Well, Everything is an Object (Except Primitives (Except with Autoboxing)) isn't the best model for a type system, unsurprisingly. -2011-08-23.txt:08:31:28: <fizzie> (And the character is called Marja Tyrni. Most of the information about all this seems to be in Finnish only, unsurprisingly.) -2011-08-26.txt:20:52:22: <elliott> Text compresses extremely well, unsurprisingly. -2011-09-03.txt:12:20:49: <ais523> different programs of mine use different decoy setups, unsurprisingly -2011-09-25.txt:21:58:02: <fizzie> There also seems to be an Apple patent for it, unsurprisingly. -2011-10-17.txt:10:36:19: <fizzie> Phantom_Hoover: The "anmaster no not markov" loop comes from elliott using ^echo to talk to an ignoring Vorpal, also unsurprisingly. -2011-12-10.txt:20:14:58: <fizzie> I *was* going to say that a "floader" sounds like one of the fast-loaders you used to see with software distributed on C64 floppies. Was googling if there's one called "fload". (Unsurprisingly, there's at least one.) -2011-12-13.txt:21:44:20: <fizzie> Apparently won't go with lexical scope there, unsurprisingly. -2012-02-07.txt:03:47:44: <evincar> Unsurprisingly. -2012-02-26.txt:02:26:31: <itidus21> `pastelogs unsurprisingly
--- a/paste/paste.16022 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,122 +0,0 @@ -2011-11-03.txt:19:57:23: <ais523\unfoog> Vorpal: weboflies -2011-11-03.txt:20:05:45: <Vorpal> ais523\unfoog, how much of a FPS drop do you get from weboflies typically with opengl stuff? -2011-11-03.txt:20:06:16: <ais523\unfoog> the joyous thing is, that weboflies only has a performance penalty on syscalls -2011-11-03.txt:20:25:25: <ais523\unfoog> gcc -o weboflies -O2 -g --std=gnu99 -Wall -Wextra -Wno-missing-field-initializers -Wno-missing-braces weboflies.c ktt.c -lrt -lpng -2011-11-03.txt:20:26:40: <ais523\unfoog> weboflies has a command line -2011-11-03.txt:20:28:56: <elliott> weboflies.c:1910:70: error: ‘struct user_regs_struct’ has no member named ‘ebx’ -2011-11-03.txt:20:28:56: <elliott> weboflies.c:1913:70: error: ‘struct user_regs_struct’ has no member named ‘ebx’ -2011-11-03.txt:20:28:56: <elliott> weboflies.c:1928:21: error: ‘struct user_regs_struct’ has no member named ‘ecx’ -2011-11-03.txt:20:28:56: <elliott> weboflies.c:1931:22: error: ‘struct user_regs_struct’ has no member named ‘esi’ -2011-11-03.txt:20:28:56: <elliott> weboflies.c:1932:44: error: ‘struct user_regs_struct’ has no member named ‘esi’ -2011-11-03.txt:20:28:56: <elliott> weboflies.c:1934:22: error: ‘struct user_regs_struct’ has no member named ‘orig_eax’ -2011-11-03.txt:20:28:58: <elliott> weboflies.c:1940:22: error: ‘struct user_regs_struct’ has no member named ‘esi’ -2011-11-03.txt:20:29:00: <elliott> weboflies.c:1944:70: error: ‘struct user_regs_struct’ has no member named ‘esi’ -2011-11-03.txt:20:29:02: <elliott> weboflies.c:1950:20: error: ‘struct user_regs_struct’ has no member named ‘esi’ -2011-11-03.txt:20:29:04: <elliott> weboflies.c:1978:16: error: ‘struct user_regs_struct’ has no member named ‘orig_eax’ -2011-11-03.txt:20:29:06: <elliott> weboflies.c:2002:20: error: ‘struct user_regs_struct’ has no member named ‘orig_eax’ -2011-11-03.txt:20:32:40: <ais523\unfoog> this is how weboflies has genuinely caused filesystem leaks in the past -2011-11-03.txt:20:33:48: <ais523\unfoog> but weboflies' processes are often quite hard to get rid of -2011-11-03.txt:20:56:55: <ais523\unfoog> the weboflies core, which I'm writing at the moment, would need to be connected to some sort of interface to actually read it -2011-11-03.txt:22:03:49: <elliott> [elliott@dinky weboflies]$ find . -2011-11-03.txt:22:03:49: <elliott> ./weboflies.c -2011-11-03.txt:22:04:09: <Vorpal> ./weboflies.c -2011-11-03.txt:22:04:10: <Vorpal> ./weboflies -2011-11-03.txt:22:30:15: <elliott> [elliott@dinky ~]$ ldd ~/Code/weboflies/build.sh -2011-11-03.txt:22:30:39: <elliott> [elliott@dinky ~]$ ldd ~/Code/weboflies/build.sh -2011-11-03.txt:22:30:39: <elliott> ldd: warning: you do not have execution permission for `/home/elliott/Code/weboflies/build.sh' -2011-11-04.txt:03:55:25: <elliott> [elliott@dinky weboflies]$ sudo ./weboflies ls -2011-11-04.txt:03:55:25: <elliott> = WARNING: mount("/home/ais523/weboflies/nethack/nethack", "/tmp/var/games/nethack", 0, MS_BIND, 0): No such file or directory -2011-11-04.txt:03:57:54: <elliott> ewarn(mount("/home/ais523/weboflies/nethack/nethack", "/tmp/var/games/nethack", 0, MS_BIND, 0)); -2011-11-04.txt:03:59:10: <elliott> [elliott@dinky weboflies]$ sudo ./weboflies ls -2011-11-04.txt:09:48:01: <elliott> note: it was "sudo ./weboflies true"; true is 64-bit, but I tried it on Web of Lies itself and it still failed, so I suspect it's a generic problem -2011-11-04.txt:09:48:13: <elliott> weboflies isn't suid :) -2011-11-04.txt:09:57:39: <elliott> ais523: I could run weboflies under gd... what am I saying, of course I can't -2011-11-04.txt:09:58:18: <elliott> [elliott@dinky weboflies]$ sudo gdb ./weboflies -2011-11-04.txt:10:02:29: <elliott_> i killed the gdb'd weboflies -2011-11-04.txt:10:03:25: <ais523> this is weboflies! -2011-11-04.txt:10:03:51: <ais523> (note that a kill -9 on weboflies itself is nearly always a bad idea) -2011-11-04.txt:10:05:30: <elliott_> [elliott@dinky weboflies]$ sudo ./weboflies true -2011-11-04.txt:10:05:34: <elliott_> 781 pts/0 00:00:00 weboflies -2011-11-04.txt:10:05:34: <elliott_> 782 pts/1 00:00:00 weboflies -2011-11-04.txt:10:05:35: <elliott_> 783 pts/1 00:00:00 weboflies -2011-11-04.txt:10:05:46: <elliott_> [elliott@dinky weboflies]$ ls -l /proc | grep 783 -2011-11-04.txt:10:06:04: <elliott_> [elliott@dinky weboflies]$ ls -l /proc/783/fd -2011-11-04.txt:10:06:09: <elliott_> [elliott@dinky weboflies]$ ls -ld /proc/783/fd -2011-11-04.txt:10:07:35: <elliott_> [elliott@dinky weboflies]$ ls -ld /proc/781{,/fd} -2011-11-04.txt:10:07:35: <elliott_> [elliott@dinky weboflies]$ ls -ld /proc/782{,/fd} -2011-11-04.txt:10:08:19: <elliott_> [elliott@dinky weboflies]$ ls /proc/self/fd -2011-11-04.txt:10:08:27: <elliott_> [elliott@dinky weboflies]$ ls -ld /proc/self{,/fd} -2011-11-04.txt:10:08:50: <elliott_> [elliott@dinky weboflies]$ ls -ldH /proc/self{,/fd} -2011-11-04.txt:10:12:55: <elliott_> I was thinking weboflies could chown its /proc/blah/fd before dropping perms :) -2011-11-04.txt:10:17:06: <elliott_> [elliott@dinky weboflies]$ /bin/true --help -2011-11-04.txt:10:18:58: <elliott_> ais523: any ideas wrt weboflies? -2011-11-04.txt:19:34:17: <ais523> (that's for the syscall getdents; you're not supposed to use it directly, rather using a wrapper, but you can do a few things with it that you can't via the wrapper, such as listing amazingly large directories, and ofc weboflies is at the receiving end of syscalls so it has to understand getdents, not the libc equivalents) -2011-11-04.txt:19:38:11: <elliott_> gcc -o weboflies -m32 -O2 -g --std=gnu99 -Wall -Wextra -Wno-missing-field-initializers -Wno-missing-braces weboflies.c ktt.c -lrt -lpng -2011-11-04.txt:19:48:37: <ais523> I think it's only just new enough to run weboflies, which requires something along the lines of 2.6.30 -2011-11-04.txt:19:54:41: <ais523> actually, I think weboflies does connect to a pty -2011-11-05.txt:18:18:37: <ais523> basically, there are three processes: weboflies, fakeinit, process under test -2011-11-05.txt:18:18:50: <ais523> weboflies forks fakeinit as root; fakeinit forks the process after dropping perms, so as nonroot -2011-11-05.txt:18:19:36: <ais523> and weboflies then can't read the process under test's perms on any computers but mine -2011-11-05.txt:18:48:32: <elliott> [elliott@dinky weboflies]$ ls -lhd /proc/7583{,/fd} -2011-11-05.txt:18:48:32: <elliott> [elliott@dinky weboflies]$ ls -lhd /proc/7584{,/fd} -2011-11-05.txt:18:50:35: <ais523> CLONE_PTRACE basically means "debugged-ness propagates over the clone"; weboflies injects it into other process's clone calls -2011-11-05.txt:18:54:29: <elliott> [elliott@dinky weboflies]$ ls -lhd /proc/7739{,/fd} -2011-11-05.txt:18:54:29: <elliott> [elliott@dinky weboflies]$ ls -lhd /proc/7740{,/fd} -2011-11-05.txt:18:54:54: <ais523> elliott: OK, so now we have to figure out what weboflies is doing differently -2011-11-05.txt:18:57:00: <elliott> ais523: am i meant to be reading weboflies.c here, or are you? :-) -2011-11-05.txt:18:58:37: <Phantom_Hoover> What does weboflies do? -2011-11-05.txt:19:40:44: <elliott> ais523: any ideas about weboflies? -2011-11-05.txt:19:46:35: <ais523> such a pity that weboflies repels debuggers -2011-11-05.txt:20:00:17: <elliott> [elliott@dinky Temp]$ qemu-img create weboflies.qemu2 4G -2011-11-05.txt:20:00:17: <elliott> Formatting 'weboflies.qemu2', fmt=raw size=4294967296 -2011-11-05.txt:20:00:17: <elliott> -rw-r--r-- 1 elliott users 4.0G Nov 5 19:59 weboflies.qemu2 -2011-11-05.txt:20:00:36: <elliott> [elliott@dinky Temp]$ qemu-img create -f qcow2 weboflies.qcow2 4G -2011-11-05.txt:20:00:36: <elliott> Formatting 'weboflies.qcow2', fmt=qcow2 size=4294967296 encryption=off cluster_size=65536 -2011-11-05.txt:20:00:36: <elliott> [elliott@dinky Temp]$ ls -lh weboflies.qcow2 -2011-11-05.txt:20:00:36: <elliott> -rw-r--r-- 1 elliott users 193K Nov 5 19:59 weboflies.qcow2 -2011-11-05.txt:20:00:54: <ais523> for some weboflies test, I was using a sparse ext4 -2011-11-05.txt:21:42:05: <elliott> [elliott@dinky Temp]$ qemu -m 1024 -hda weboflies.qcow2 -cdrom ~/Downloads/archlinux-2011.08.19-netinstall-i686.iso -boot c -2011-11-05.txt:22:59:04: <elliott> ais523: weboflies would work in Xen, right? -2011-11-05.txt:23:02:20: <elliott> ais523: [elliott@dinky Temp]$ qemu -m 1024 -hda weboflies.qcow2man -net nic -net user,hostfwd=tcp::2222:22 -2011-11-05.txt:23:46:03: <ais523> elliott: well, weboflies works just /fine/ inside the VM -2011-11-05.txt:23:49:02: <ais523> hmm, I just tried running weboflies on su, to see what would happen -2011-11-05.txt:23:53:33: <ais523> and this is running 32-bit su, as weboflies only runs 32-bit programs -2011-11-05.txt:23:54:21: <ais523> elliott: anyway, if you want to run weboflies, now you have a VM it works in ;) -2011-11-05.txt:23:58:10: <elliott> ais523: I did (weboflies) -2011-11-14.txt:22:29:52: <elliott> ais523: hmm, weboflies-related question: can you use a new filesystem namespace as a chroot? -2011-11-14.txt:22:30:52: <ais523> but I've never dared call it from inside weboflies, because I'm not quite that crazy -2011-12-15.txt:19:45:13: <elliott> ais523: but how will you calculate weboflies' eigenratio? -2011-12-15.txt:19:49:47: <ais523> elliott: heh, I have to keep remembering to check EFAULT in weboflies -2011-12-15.txt:19:55:04: <elliott> Vorpal: /proc/<pid>/fd failed to stop being owned by root on weboflies' complicated permissions drop -2012-01-08.txt:14:52:28: <elliott> Yes, so does weboflies. -2012-03-04.txt:19:22:45: <ais523> should be secure against non-malicious accidents; it just increases the attack surface somewhat for people trying to exploit suid weboflies, or whatever, and who'd be mad enough to suid it? -2012-03-04.txt:19:26:42: <ais523> suiding weboflies? -2012-03-04.txt:19:41:04: <ais523> that's exactly what I was doing with the fake framebuffer in weboflies anyway -2012-03-04.txt:19:47:47: <elliott> anyway, I don't see why weboflies couldn't just pretend to the running program that it's root -2012-03-04.txt:19:49:55: <ais523> $ sudo ./weboflies ls /dev/input -2012-03-04.txt:19:51:02: <ais523> $ sudo ./weboflies Xvfb :1 -2012-03-04.txt:19:55:32: <ais523> elliott: that's what weboflies does do on unknown syscalls -2012-03-04.txt:19:56:26: <elliott> <ais523> elliott: that's what weboflies does do on unknown syscalls -2012-03-04.txt:20:06:44: <ais523> ais523@desert:~/weboflies$ ln -s Xvfb_screen0 /tmp/Xvfb_screen0.xwd -2012-03-04.txt:20:06:45: <ais523> ais523@desert:~/weboflies$ convert /tmp/Xvfb_screen0.xwd /tmp/t.png -2012-03-04.txt:20:06:47: <ais523> ais523@desert:~/weboflies$ eog /tmp/t.png -2012-03-04.txt:20:06:57: <ais523> so Xvfb is definitely working outside weboflies -2012-03-05.txt:15:05:03: <ais523> I was trying to figure out htf a process inside weboflies could detect X outside it, apparently that was how -2012-03-05.txt:15:06:39: <ais523> do weboflies nc localhost 9999, and you get an error message back that it couldn't determine the IP address that localhost referred to -2012-03-05.txt:15:06:50: <ais523> because there isn't an /etc/hosts inside weboflies, and it has no other sort of DNS -2012-03-05.txt:15:34:51: <ais523> other anyway: I'm annoyed that X seems to segfault inside weboflies but not outside (both Xorg and Xvfb, which appear to be doing the same thing when they segfault) -2012-03-05.txt:15:35:13: <ais523> then all I'll have to do is get core dumps working inside weboflies… -2012-03-05.txt:16:22:25: <ais523> I can't even figure out why weboflies would make a program segfault -2012-03-05.txt:16:25:21: <Phantom_Hoover> weboflies? -2012-03-05.txt:16:26:18: <ais523> yes, weboflies -2012-03-05.txt:16:26:54: <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: you know weboflies -2012-03-05.txt:16:27:01: <elliott> <ais523> I can't even figure out why weboflies would make a program segfault -2012-03-05.txt:16:27:16: <elliott> ais523: ooh, you should post your weboflies problems on SO, the reactions would be priceless -2012-03-05.txt:16:27:20: <ais523> elliott: you /do/ know what happens if you put gdb and weboflies together, right? -2012-03-05.txt:16:31:19: <ais523> and if weboflies doesn't have a syscall implemented, it forwards it to the actual kernel -2012-03-05.txt:16:37:22: <fizzie> ais523: Anyway, can you get core dumps out of weboflies'd processes? It sounds not impossible for those to be gdb'able, depending on how things go. -2012-03-05.txt:16:43:54: <fizzie> ais523: What was the basic weboflies mechanism, anyway? ptrace with PTRACE_SYSCALL? -2012-03-05.txt:16:44:39: <ais523> btw, weboflies works inside strace (but not strace -f, nor does strace work inside weboflies) -2012-03-05.txt:16:44:46: <ais523> I wonder if /ltrace/ works inside weboflies? -2012-04-04.txt:02:50:00: <elliott> shachaf: That's what weboflies does. -2012-04-04.txt:03:24:39: <elliott> OK, lemme figure out where weboflies.c is.
--- a/paste/paste.16594 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,1 +0,0 @@ -2012-03-18.txt:15:08:42: <itidus21> `pastelogs itidus trapped in
--- a/paste/paste.17281 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,64 +0,0 @@ -2008-02-06.txt:17:17:28: <ehird`> ais523: i think yours is a bit too obscure, yeah -2008-02-18.txt:20:14:31: <ais523> Sgeo: I know you weren't asking me, but I know from experience that some obscure bugs in code I wrote were traceable to not doing that -2008-03-31.txt:15:44:02: <ais523> AnMaster: Kate recognises INTERCAL as some sort of obscure database script -2008-03-31.txt:16:42:13: <ais523> ehird: you just know that people will use obscure features like symlinked variables in order to confuse the fuzz tester -2008-03-31.txt:16:43:16: <AnMaster> <ais523> ehird: you just know that people will use obscure features like symlinked variables in order to confuse the fuzz tester -2008-04-03.txt:10:10:43: <ais523> wow, posix_fadvice is so obscure Google can't figure out what it does -2008-04-03.txt:12:20:08: <AnMaster> ais523, <ais523> wow, posix_fadvice is so obscure Google can't figure out what it does <-- try the man page, it knows -2008-04-04.txt:15:18:30: <ais523> (trigraphs are an obscure and rarely-used C89 feature, but this time I was using them to type chars like ] with a sequence of characters that was nop in Brainfuck) -2008-05-06.txt:19:26:32: <ais523> it's understanding what obscure language feature you need to solve it that's needed to solve the problem -2008-05-20.txt:19:08:45: <ehird> ais523: you seem to think git is some kind of obscure system -2008-05-20.txt:19:22:10: * ais523 thinks you should install something really obscure -2008-05-20.txt:19:23:01: <ehird> ais523: But only because I went looking for obscure editors before -2008-06-23.txt:13:44:15: <oklopol> ais523: read logs for a new language of mine, and obscure rant about Ef! -2008-06-23.txt:23:24:12: <ais523> Slereah2: probably not, it's a pretty obscure character -2008-09-12.txt:21:25:23: <ais523> I got quite good at it though despite it being so obscure -2008-09-12.txt:22:45:56: <ais523> it could easily beat most other tests at testing portability on obscure systems -2008-09-20.txt:21:36:02: <ais523> but that would have been a lot more obscure -2008-09-23.txt:20:27:04: <ais523> so I made it hard, obscure and without context -2009-02-28.txt:18:34:36: <ais523> it leads to massively obscure error messages, though -2009-03-01.txt:17:11:25: <ais523> that means there's something really obscure but standard on the level -2009-03-03.txt:16:09:02: <ais523_> ehird: that's kind-of obscure, rather than a basic test -2009-03-03.txt:16:09:09: <ehird> ais523_: ## is not obscure!! -2009-03-05.txt:16:10:54: <ehird> ais523: now _that's_ obscure -2009-03-05.txt:16:12:00: <ais523> it was pretty obscure... -2009-03-08.txt:18:17:02: <ais523> I've been getting obscure bugs when I try to use numbers as table keys -2009-03-08.txt:22:27:06: <ais523> like the diameter of the steering wheel, or whatever </obscure reference> -2009-03-10.txt:21:23:46: <ais523> and is it standard, or obscure, or did you just invent the name? -2009-03-22.txt:19:59:15: <ehird> ais523: You know it; considering how obscure it is I'd say you're an expert. -2009-03-23.txt:19:36:24: <ais523> the point is to have the smallest possible amount of information obscure -2009-03-28.txt:18:20:23: <ais523> wow, C94 is sufficiently obscure that even Google has few relevant results -2009-03-29.txt:16:31:23: <ais523> well, I'm getting an obscure bug in the C-INTERCAL profiler -2009-04-03.txt:23:28:16: <ais523> some of the more obscure edge cases need people to be writing third-order non-recursive functions in their simple imperative langauge to trigger them -2009-04-29.txt:17:11:51: <ehird> ais523: OBSCURE REFERENCE BUDDIES *HI5* -2009-05-02.txt:17:04:21: <ais523> that's a minimal testcase for an obscure optimizer bug -2009-05-04.txt:22:08:35: <ais523> AnMaster: yes, although some of them are rather obscure -2009-05-04.txt:22:08:45: <AnMaster> ais523, too obscure for aspell even -2009-05-29.txt:09:26:01: <ais523> and lambdas aren't really obscure nowadays -2009-10-13.txt:16:56:46: <ais523> from what I've heard on Slashdot, it causes massive data loss but only in a rather obscure corner case -2010-04-16.txt:19:05:04: <AnMaster> ais523, doesn't that exist? As embedded sql or such? Fairly old and obscure thing iirc -2010-06-20.txt:22:36:53: <ais523> try more obscure vegetables -2010-06-20.txt:22:43:32: <AnMaster> ais523, guess: asparagus is commonly considered obscure. Thus it isn't -2010-07-18.txt:15:51:56: <ais523> and if so, why would they go for a relatively obscure webmail service? -2010-08-14.txt:23:13:51: <ais523> and either they have to write a huge comment "don't change this apparently ridiculous code because it breaks on (insert obscure compiler here)" -2010-08-15.txt:01:45:15: <ais523> Vorpal: apart from unihorn and prayer, the other cures for foodpois are really obscure -2010-09-30.txt:16:48:53: <ais523> although it was only repealed about 10 years ago, when they noticed there were still some obscure offences that carried it -2010-10-04.txt:20:12:21: <ais523> I have higlights on quite a few obscure things -2010-10-10.txt:21:47:42: <fizzie> ais523: Oh, and feof/ferror too, as well as the somewhat obscure system(NULL) case. (And a lot of multibyte string functions when called with a NULL s.) -2010-11-08.txt:17:52:30: <elliott> ais523: .zip is the Old Rubbish, .7z is the Obscure Stuff. -2010-11-09.txt:16:37:00: <elliott> ais523: that ... beyond obscure -2010-12-16.txt:23:36:09: <elliott> ais523: "I want a charset encoding that has box-drawing chars as single bytes. What is it? (Is it obscure? If so, I'd better not use it.) Here is a C-based demonstration that I have no idea what the hell I'm talking about, and also use Windows. Goodbye!" -2011-05-18.txt:19:11:32: <pikhq> ais523_: Not really a *bug* as it is a very obscure feature. -2011-07-18.txt:07:41:24: <ais523> that explains anything I do that results in obscure questions about Linux internals -2011-07-22.txt:20:14:13: <ais523> probably a really obscure method involving libraries -2011-08-13.txt:18:33:36: <ais523> it'd work better if there's a really obscure non-eso lang called iridium -2011-08-31.txt:23:37:56: <ais523> Sgeo: I wonder if zzo38 getting interested in something /makes/ it obscure -2011-12-01.txt:21:31:28: <ais523> (on another note, I love the way that the standard way to indicate that you get a reference is to make a different obscure reference to the same thing) -2011-12-15.txt:17:39:01: <ais523> you know, some day there'll be someone who says "I only know one/two Pokémon", then names a really obscure one rather than one of the starters -2011-12-15.txt:17:39:42: <elliott> <ais523> you know, some day there'll be someone who says "I only know one/two Pokémon", then names a really obscure one rather than one of the starters -2011-12-20.txt:05:43:51: <shachaf> ais523: It's this really obscure SI unit. -2011-12-24.txt:20:35:12: <ais523> the second is rather more obscure -2011-12-31.txt:22:26:41: <ais523> ah right, on the basis that Hexham is an awfully obscure and specific place to lying about having come from -2012-01-01.txt:02:00:17: <elliott> ais523: {Haskell, occasionally C, sometimes Python, rarely Perl, probably all sorts of obscure things like ATS and Rust and Bit-C and stuff, not C++, not C++, not C++} -2012-03-04.txt:05:08:46: <HackEgo> 2011-07-22.txt:20:14:13: <ais523> probably a really obscure method involving libraries -2012-03-04.txt:05:08:59: <HackEgo> 2009-03-03.txt:16:09:09: <ehird> ais523_: ## is not obscure!!
--- a/paste/paste.17633 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,300 +0,0 @@ -2003-02-06.txt:03:01:30: <dbc> I settled for tabbing before each number, rather than right-justifying within fields :) -2003-02-06.txt:20:09:56: <fizzie> funge also has the extension mechanism, which makes it feel vaguely and disturbingly 'serious'. -2004-01-27.txt:00:11:25: <Taaus-dvorak> Bingo. -2004-05-30.txt:20:54:51: <fizzie> besides, in _all_ the parties (and most of the other social gatherings I've gone) I've seen jaffa/bC! naked, for one reason or the other. usually involves swimming/water, but not always. to be honest it's kinda disturbing. -2004-07-12.txt:21:08:48: <calamari_> doubtful that a calculator would involve the situation I'm describing -2005-03-05.txt:20:38:30: <Keymaker> anyways, this tutorial thing is really disturbing.. i know nobody is that great when starting a new language, but i wouldn't write tutorial if i couldn't do much else than print hello world.. as well, i'm really annoyed many call this language limited or useless :\ -2005-05-07.txt:04:13:02: <GregorR-L> In BF, you can make a program that does a disturbing amount of function and fit it easily in 1/2 page. -2005-05-11.txt:05:22:58: <GregorR> BING! Got it -2005-05-19.txt:00:39:10: <GregorR-L> BING 8-D -2005-05-25.txt:16:13:23: <pgimeno> yesterday (more than 12 hours ago anyway) someone said that Martijn van der Heide's work grabbing permissions from authors for distribution on WoS was hardly a huge work... that hit my sensible fiber -2005-05-25.txt:20:24:46: <pgimeno> am I the only one who sees the left bar disturbing? -2005-05-25.txt:20:26:46: <malaprop> left bar disturbing? -2005-05-30.txt:19:39:30: <jix> it's strategy: kill allTricks,findAndDestroy,logicex, self repair, destroy @... code, try 4 times to lay a bomb to the opponents position(i added a ! in the +++s .. no idea why^^), bombing! -2005-05-30.txt:21:43:21: <GregorR> This is random bombings! -2005-06-04.txt:06:50:27: <GregorR-L> The function of the peptide sequences is deterministic but mind-numbingly complex. -2005-07-20.txt:18:44:22: <GregorR> www.php.net has a mind-numbingly extensive one. -2005-07-23.txt:23:45:14: <{^Raven^}> If you read the full text of the complaint it's very funny and quite disturbing -2005-08-12.txt:16:55:55: <jix> hey use mathematic function for discribing the whole spectrum! -2005-09-23.txt:04:08:59: <GregorR> Since plenty of people will be transcribing the mousepad. -2005-10-14.txt:18:54:25: <graue> the IOI'90 paper describing it suggests you write a program that takes a string of the form "<nr1>+<nr2>=?" and outputs "<nr1>+<nr2>=<nr3>" where all the nrs are natural numbers, and nr3 is the sum of nr1 and nr2 -2005-10-24.txt:01:27:20: <kipple> don't know specifically, but in general I feel there are always some who don't want to bother with subscribing to mailing list -2005-11-01.txt:01:02:03: <graue> people grabbing the 1.7 MB backup daily might be using a lot of bandwidth -2005-11-15.txt:00:09:59: <cpressey> ok, so... say you have a language for describing deciders... will it always halt? yes, because deciders always halt. HOWEVER - the problem is - how is it that your language only describes deciders? how do you know that you can't accidentally describe a Turing machine in your language? that's the hard part. -2005-11-15.txt:00:16:17: <cpressey> a language-for-describing-pda's -2005-11-15.txt:00:16:35: <calamari> so I need a language-for-describing-deciders -2005-11-15.txt:00:18:01: <cpressey> would be hard to imagine a language-for-describing-fsm's that could itself be described by an fsm -2005-11-24.txt:04:01:44: <calamari> so basically what I was after was a language capable of describing every language that always halts -2005-11-24.txt:04:02:53: <cpressey> that language must also be capable of describing languages that don't halt -2005-11-24.txt:04:13:10: <calamari> let me make sure I understand what you're saying.. are you saying that the language PL-{GOTO} isn't capable of describing all possible deciders? -2005-11-24.txt:04:13:57: <cpressey> no, it is capable of that. what it's not capable of is describing a decider which simulates some other decider (like a UTM simulates some other TM.) -2005-12-21.txt:18:50:50: <ihope> Bingo! -2006-01-20.txt:02:46:34: <GregorR-L> It's slightly disturbing that you're on IRC at the time, btw. -2006-02-05.txt:00:24:51: <ihope> Bingo. -2006-02-10.txt:00:53:19: <GregorR-L> Can't you love me for who I am *runs sobbing into the corner* -2006-02-19.txt:20:43:59: <ihope> Bingo. -2006-04-01.txt:20:54:21: <ihope_> Bingo. -2006-04-06.txt:18:37:23: <ihope> Bingo, -2006-05-04.txt:00:31:29: <ihope> Must be some case of Google bombing. -2006-05-04.txt:00:34:10: <SimonRC> Reverse the bombing! Create your own links to the w3c's http page. -2006-05-26.txt:17:31:28: <SimonRC> made of bits of other movies spiced together, with maybe a tiny bit of new footage, a little bad dubbing, and small amount of CG. -2006-05-29.txt:02:05:05: <Arrogant> ! for grabbing a new scope, % for duplicating, x for destroying the scope. -2006-06-05.txt:21:53:04: <jix> i was describing the look -2006-06-07.txt:20:35:12: <ihope_> Bingo. -2006-06-21.txt:03:18:48: <rabidpoobear> Subtitles + original language = scarier than cheesy dubbing -2006-07-26.txt:00:35:12: <pikhq> I could sleep during a bombing. -2006-07-28.txt:19:00:23: <lament> other than in the sense of me stabbing you with a long pointy spear -2006-08-03.txt:21:08:57: <RodgerTheGreat> bingo -2006-08-05.txt:04:38:35: <RodgerTheGreat> bingo -2006-08-06.txt:01:51:58: <oerjanj> the absolute addressing is only a feature of describing the program, not of its execution -2006-08-10.txt:03:25:14: <RodgerTheGreat> bingo. -2006-08-11.txt:17:49:52: <RodgerTheGreat> heh. I just listened to gregor's "kill yourself" song. That was disturbingly catchy. -2006-08-14.txt:01:02:08: <RodgerTheGreat> Razor-X: I have no idea what that actually means, but my translator seems to be turning into some type of really disturbing innuendo. -2006-08-14.txt:01:10:20: <RodgerTheGreat> *that* explains the disturbing translation. -2006-08-15.txt:05:16:50: <RodgerTheGreat> I refer you all to this grim harbinger of the doom of the human race: -2006-08-22.txt:01:05:35: <Razor-X> !i 6 And Bingo was his name-o. - -2006-08-22.txt:01:05:39: <Razor-X> !i 4 And Bingo was his name-o. - -2006-08-22.txt:01:05:42: <EgoBot> And Bingo was his name-o. -2006-08-25.txt:21:31:28: <GregorR-W> I was gonna try stabbing glass into my eye. -2006-08-26.txt:00:23:05: <CakeProphet> Sex is mind-boggling distrubing actually... I don't understand how that could be even remotely pleasurable. -2006-08-28.txt:23:06:05: <ihope> Bingo. -2006-08-29.txt:00:55:46: <ihope> Bing. -2006-09-06.txt:00:35:45: <pikhq> Argh. Can't find the RFC ATM, but I can find one describing the etymology. -2006-09-09.txt:01:09:12: <calamari> heh, never mind, time seems to keep climbing -2006-09-19.txt:16:34:55: <RodgerTheGreat> "Scroll taps (stap events) are generated on 4G and later iPods when the user taps a certain region of the scroll wheel. They are used primarily for Text Input functions. Scroll taps may be simulated with the numeric keypad." <- bingo! -2006-10-04.txt:23:44:01: <RodgerTheGreat> I think he's describing the cells. -2006-10-05.txt:22:46:45: <CakeProphet> !bf_txtgen Soulless Teat Grabbing Assassin -2006-10-06.txt:23:27:35: <calamari> RodgerTheGreat: my officemate has a buzzword bingo game.. bring it to a meeting and try to win :) -2006-10-06.txt:23:28:40: <oerjan> in norway that's known as "bullshit-bingo" -2006-10-14.txt:00:09:34: <RodgerTheGreat> if you can get around the I/O limitations, it isn't that mind-numbing a concept. -2006-10-14.txt:00:13:18: <RodgerTheGreat> bingo- that would do it. -2006-10-28.txt:15:17:52: <CakeProphet> but.... I praise the mighty power of bread-crumbing. -2006-11-07.txt:04:54:05: <xor_> Because oop is a natural way of describing things? -2006-11-07.txt:04:55:07: <lament> xor_: yes, oop is a natural way of describing things, but why do it in C? -2006-11-07.txt:15:53:34: <SimonRC> What's more mind-numbing than _Big Brother_ and more pointless than _Second Life_? Yes, it's _Big Brother_ set *in* _Second Life_: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/06/bb_second_life/ -2006-11-23.txt:02:16:58: <GreaseMonkey> "'m sick of all the lame tutorials describing how you can use a virus to destroy your school computers using just batch commands. They suck, as they don't destroy anything. My virus simply pwnz all of yourz coz it is the best. It actually kills your teacher and all the students in the class. It not only kills them... it's so much better than that.... it actually burns them alive." -2006-12-08.txt:17:44:07: <pikhq> Pretty much where I'm at involves finishing the interpretation pass, frobbing with the command line parser a bit, and tarring it up. -2006-12-21.txt:03:56:22: <bsmnt_bot> I find your lack of pants disturbing. -2006-12-21.txt:03:57:00: <bsmnt_bot> I find your lack of pants disturbing. -2006-12-21.txt:18:32:02: <bsmnt_bot> I find your lack of pants disturbing. -2006-12-28.txt:07:08:54: <CakeProphet> the idea is to have a language for describing your standard... so that making changes to a standard simply requires you to change the metalanguage describing your standard. -2006-12-29.txt:02:21:42: <oklopol> and heavy subwebbing! -2006-12-30.txt:03:15:00: <RodgerTheGreat> bingo- quine -2006-12-30.txt:07:52:34: * CakeProphet figures out the problem with some breadcrumbing. -2006-12-30.txt:17:50:37: <pikhq> Just describing the specific type of OISC. -2006-12-31.txt:20:39:28: * CakeProphet immediately conjures up images of an evil C monster stabbing him with sharp pointers. -2007-01-08.txt:23:02:55: <ihope> Bingo. -2007-01-12.txt:18:36:23: <SimonRC> bsmntbombdood: Algebraic Datatypes are an enlightening system of describing datastructures. I much prefer them to classes or structs -2007-01-22.txt:00:19:03: <oklopol> because now that i've come to think of it, amphibious was imo a nice for for describing programs that run the samu way in many languages -2007-03-07.txt:03:22:32: <bsmntbombdood> i'm in ur $location $verbing (your|my) $noun -2007-03-20.txt:18:38:42: <ais523> the reason I brought this up is that the language I'm describing can be compiled into Black, I think (as long as the initial maximums of the registers are sufficiently large) -2007-03-23.txt:14:33:47: <oklopol> i'm pretty sure i had a cooler way of describing problems of that nature... a rubik's cube is hell to describe to a computer in most languages -2007-03-25.txt:01:10:33: <SevenInchBread> bsmntbombdood, your explainations fall too much into the trap of describing the implementation. -2007-03-25.txt:01:32:51: <bsmntbombdood> SevenInchBread: i have no other way of describing it... -2007-03-27.txt:02:47:33: <SevenInchBread> ...a good thing to set up first would be a way to spit out info to the screen... for the crumbing of breads. -2007-04-01.txt:04:22:51: * CakeProphet trashes the sidewalks and dances around in circles rubbing his bellybutton -2007-04-05.txt:01:40:38: <GregorR> Not the ones you're describing, they'd need an explicit dereference. -2007-04-05.txt:06:21:49: <RodgerTheGreat> it improves readability if tabbing gets fucked up or someone has odd whitespace conventions -2007-04-08.txt:01:24:21: <GregorR> Pikhq: It doesn't do anything regarding installation, only use. I intended for the installation/dependency grabbing/whatever portion to be a differnet tool. -2007-04-08.txt:01:25:37: <Pikhq> It sounds *almost* like installation would be as simple as drag-drop, but dependency grabbing would require an external tool. -2007-04-08.txt:03:58:23: <SevenInchBread> probably one of the first things we'd want is a way to spit stuff out to a terminal... for breadcrumbing/testing OS stuff. -2007-04-14.txt:06:43:27: <oerjan> somewhat disturbing that the google hits all spell it differently... -2007-04-20.txt:04:38:11: <Figs> bingo -2007-04-25.txt:03:32:50: <oerjan> i was describing my ideas about ALPACA. -2007-04-28.txt:00:54:14: <GregorR> pikhq_: My intention is to use DPlof just to get Plof (the one in Plof) working. Then I'll make Plof target C (as well as interpretation), and bingo, CPlof. -2007-04-28.txt:01:08:01: <bsmntbombdood> GregorR> pikhq_: My intention is to use DPlof just to get Plof (the one in Plof) working. Then I'll make Plof target C (as well as interpretation), and bingo, CPlof. -2007-05-01.txt:21:39:57: <ihope> I mean, they must have had thousands of words for describing rocks. -2007-05-28.txt:22:06:42: <oklopol> no one tells anecdotes about me rubbing my forehead with a frozen beanbag :< -2007-05-28.txt:22:17:04: <lament> I heard this anecdote about oerjan, he uses to drink rubbing alcohol and eat bags full of beans -2007-05-28.txt:22:35:03: <bsmntbombdood> i would imagine rubbing alcohol would be unpleasent -2007-06-13.txt:23:43:06: <ihope> ...Isn't microkernel + servers what I've been describing? -2007-07-06.txt:13:47:29: <RodgerTheGreat> man, my tabbing there is really odd -2007-07-07.txt:21:57:17: <edwardk> iirc grigori rosu used it when describing the complexity of proving the equivalence of two infinite streams last year at the ICFP but its an older notation -2007-07-11.txt:01:19:31: <oklopol> or what exactly are you rubbing :| -2007-07-11.txt:01:33:56: <lament> bsmntbombdood: the imperative model includes the concept of "world state". The functional model doesn't (there's no world state in lambda calculus) unless you explicitly introduce it (or arbitrarily declare some value to be the "world state"). For this reason, the imperative model is so convenient for describing processes which change the world state. -2007-07-13.txt:20:59:03: <lament> bouldering is a particular form of recreational climbing -2007-07-14.txt:21:57:39: <RodgerTheGreat> oh, bingo: http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/Noit_o'_mnain_worb -2007-07-15.txt:02:46:22: <RodgerTheGreat> that's somewhat more disturbing than my mental image. :S -2007-07-15.txt:03:21:32: <Figs> I suck at transcribing by ear :) -2007-07-16.txt:21:55:45: <pikhq> I'm not describing what's sane, I'm describing how GNU C does it. -2007-07-19.txt:15:16:02: <ehird`> i was describing a bug -2007-07-19.txt:22:27:54: <ehird`> "In 1935 Meccano was the primary construction material used by J. B. Bratt in building several analog computers. The computers were used for several decades to calculate differential equations, and one such machine, the "Meccano Differential Analyser No. 2" survives to this day. That specific machine was used by the Allies in Operation Chastise where the computer played a critical role in planning the bombing runs for bombs that would b -2007-07-19.txt:23:02:42: <RodgerTheGreat> bingo -2007-07-20.txt:02:45:30: <RodgerTheGreat> bingo -2007-07-21.txt:16:35:04: <ehird`> is there a page on the wiki describing most of the good brainfuck-compilation optimization techniques known? -2007-07-22.txt:01:19:11: <Sukoshi> Grabbing a GCC binary shouldn't be too hard. -2007-07-24.txt:00:59:47: <lament> it's not a computational model. It's a set of restrictions for describing stuff. -2007-07-27.txt:10:04:54: <RodgerTheGreat> bingo -2007-07-28.txt:01:00:43: <RodgerTheGreat> picrete tubing (slow melting, we can keep it "warmer") plus saline liquid running through the circuitry (low freezing point) could be a good way to keep things from fusing together or jamming -2007-08-02.txt:22:46:08: <RodgerTheGreat> ah, bingo -2007-08-03.txt:22:52:35: <RodgerTheGreat> I consider C a poorly designed language, but C++ compounds it with mind-numbing degrees of idiocy -2007-08-11.txt:22:56:39: <RodgerTheGreat> bingo -2007-08-11.txt:23:04:42: <ehird`> what i'm describing is a blend of haskell's research and experimental ethic with the esoteric any-idea-goes ethic -2007-09-17.txt:03:03:51: <edwardk> but plumbing around the monad type everywhere got ugly, i did a version with a sort of implicit type-level reader monad and another draft using dynamic binding and delimited control to change a dynamically scoped 'current monad' variable with pattern matching support on dynamic variables -2007-09-21.txt:16:07:27: <oerjan> this is disturbing. SimonRC's last three messages seemed to come in reverse order. -2007-09-26.txt:14:33:53: <SimonRC> and there is some extremely disturbing stuff in my head that will remain in my head or nowhere -2007-09-28.txt:02:21:36: <GregorR> I made a video describing how I achieve O(n), but it's impossible to read *sigh* -2007-10-03.txt:16:25:54: <RodgerTheGreat> bing-bam-kaching, buy all your tools and a better gateway and you're set -2007-10-24.txt:16:28:32: <Figs> http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=173&a=3993 beware, disturbing! -2007-11-06.txt:01:01:38: <GregorR> I'm not making fun of it ... just stabbing it. -2007-11-06.txt:01:03:09: <bsmntbombdood> GregorR: stabbing exacerbates my azerbaijan -2007-11-07.txt:22:28:02: <ehird`> this discussion is disturbing -2007-11-13.txt:05:09:27: <RodgerTheGreat> bingo -2007-11-23.txt:12:02:22: <oklopol> a language with decrement + cubing and calculated gotos might be interesting -2007-12-11.txt:20:04:12: <RodgerTheGreat> The writing overall is thoughtful and generally an interesting (if disturbing) way -2007-12-26.txt:22:09:43: <Slereah-> I'm habing a hard time using it. -2007-12-31.txt:11:45:09: <oklopol> would be interesting to have a language where a bnf would correspond to a logic program describing the parser. -2008-01-03.txt:01:46:25: <ihope> "Reading" a knot consists of grabbing a list of all knots which must "go through" the knot and which direction they go through. -2008-01-06.txt:14:52:40: <oklopol> i'm globbing crap here -2008-01-17.txt:05:12:46: <Slereah> Possibly two symbols for describing input and outpub -2008-01-20.txt:13:58:35: <asiekierka> 1) A very, VERY techy information piece, describing the lang in a way too techy -2008-01-20.txt:14:23:50: <oklopol> asiekierka: that this describing the lang in a "way too techy" is just the syntax as a bnf -2008-01-23.txt:05:35:27: <RodgerTheGreat> it's very interesting, and disturbing at the same time -2008-01-23.txt:06:49:21: <adu> RDF is the platform for OWL = Web ontology lang, which is an rdf word-set for describing classes and relationships, which I hope to build a chat-bot with oneday -2008-01-23.txt:06:52:30: <oklopol> the idea behind it was, once you've ruled out every other imaginable object by describing, you've described your object -2008-01-23.txt:07:00:48: <oklopol> so that going nearere an object would be describing some part of it -2008-02-03.txt:08:06:13: <adu> Haskell has 5 type classes (i.e. interfaces) for describing what Float and Double can do -2008-02-03.txt:19:06:11: <ehird`> it was filed in 1997, so him describing it on his website -2008-02-04.txt:19:11:03: <ehird`> i was just blabbing on endlessly about k -2008-02-07.txt:01:29:35: <RodgerTheGreat> bingo... http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Category:Unimplemented -2008-02-14.txt:17:31:48: <SimonRC> AFAICT the recent protests are peaceful, if disturbing -2008-02-14.txt:17:39:55: <RodgerTheGreat> and they're better at climbing on shit. -2008-02-14.txt:21:45:21: <ehird`> es0n00b: welp, ok. I don't need a huge paper, just a few lines describing it :P -2008-02-15.txt:02:06:24: <oerjan> so you don't want to allow rapid bombing? -2008-02-15.txt:12:39:06: <es0n00b> any good web pages describing MU in an easy to understand style?? -2008-02-16.txt:05:12:24: <Sukoshi`> Not an external publication. However, I'm thinking of proxying that out. This involves getting admin access to the machine which involves grabbing hashes. -2008-02-18.txt:06:42:47: <RodgerTheGreat> hey guys, check it out- I wrote a lisp-derivative bingo card generator in postscript: http://www.nonlogic.org/dump/text/1203316480.html -2008-02-19.txt:00:11:33: <oklopol> i mean, could it do that in that vague idea you were describing :P -2008-02-21.txt:20:58:32: <ehird> ais523: by the way, i learned a disturbing thing yesterday -2008-02-23.txt:23:58:07: <oerjan> there is a section describing those fields too -2008-02-29.txt:20:14:47: <SimonRC> C'mon we need more Christian suicide bombings of human genetic engineering clinics -2008-03-03.txt:18:21:06: <ais523> instead. Unfortunately, the info document describing tar is licensed -2008-03-07.txt:19:38:23: <oklopol> Funge-98 is a class of three real and officially sanctioned programming languages (Unefunge, Befunge, and Trefunge) and provides a paradigm for describing any number of imaginary ones with different topologies and any number of dimensions." -2008-03-08.txt:19:16:10: * SimonRC thinks of a privacy escalation: pty-grabbing. If someone runs sudo from a pty, then sudo usually caches their ability to use sudo there for about 5 mins. There might be a way to exploit this to escalate local to root. -2008-03-09.txt:02:06:26: <ihope> Bingo. -2008-03-10.txt:22:41:32: <ais523> you were describing Continuation Passing Style -2008-03-11.txt:11:39:14: <oklokok> oerjan: verb verbing you verbing motherverber -2008-03-13.txt:21:46:01: <ehird> Bingo. -2008-03-14.txt:02:34:50: <AnMaster> say: {vertical tab, size of number describing size of numbers of dimension, dimension } -2008-03-14.txt:20:51:45: <ehird> AnMaster: bingo -2008-03-15.txt:23:13:54: <ehird> 'use RatsAss;' is a vaguely disturbing line -2008-03-15.txt:23:27:56: <ehird> also, I find the fact that I have to put @EXPORT etc in BEGIN disturbing -2008-03-17.txt:21:55:00: <ehird> clever *-globbing. -2008-03-17.txt:21:55:32: <ehird> AnMaster: not if the shell was clever with * globbing -2008-03-17.txt:22:24:03: <ais523> because the shell does no globbing at all -2008-03-17.txt:22:24:17: <SimonRC> that is because DOS relies on the program to do globbing -2008-03-17.txt:23:08:52: <ais523> incidentally, I've seen a shell-script used to implement init, which used shell globbing to run all the startup scripts in priority order -2008-03-18.txt:21:13:58: <ehird> ting tang walla walla bing bang -2008-03-21.txt:18:21:09: <Hiato> hrmm... yeah, something worth considering, but It doesn't really matter because you can do multiple assignments using lists. :64(a1,a2,a3) in place of grabbing the returned value like this- :(:65(a1))(a2) etc -2008-03-30.txt:17:56:35: <RodgerTheGreat> in general, I think Apple has struck a good balance between making things user-friendly and avoiding "dumbing down" the unix environment for people who want to use it. -2008-04-01.txt:21:35:45: <ehird> AnMaster: I find your micro-optimization disturbing. -2008-04-11.txt:01:24:52: <ehird> Sgeo: you are describing 'Ajax' which is another buzzword -2008-04-11.txt:17:45:16: <AnMaster> just a page describing in a way that is readable by humans -2008-04-12.txt:16:11:19: <ehird> think of a shorter, more self-describing way to express it -2008-04-16.txt:22:37:03: <ais523> lament: Chris Pressey already implied that joke, when describing TURKEY BOMB as a 'peer-pressure' language -2008-04-17.txt:15:23:13: <ehird> oklopol, bingo -2008-04-21.txt:13:21:04: <ais523> AnMaster: thinking about what they'd likely do, two would be handles to the memory pages the memory is allocated in, two would be offsets within the pages, and one would be a pointer to a struct describing the request and setting parameters, so I'd guess 5 params -2008-04-21.txt:16:40:16: <AnMaster> for syntax when describing, some semi-C prefered -2008-04-23.txt:20:56:25: <ehird> it's vaguely disturbing -2008-04-27.txt:00:57:17: <evincarofautumn> Bingo, revcompgeek. -2008-04-27.txt:01:54:44: <revcompgeek> s/describint/describing -2008-04-28.txt:23:03:18: <evincar> pikhq: Ha. Polite ribbing borders on abuse. -2008-05-01.txt:21:42:05: <ais523> then start climbing down the column of asterisks -2008-05-01.txt:21:44:25: <ais523> I climb down to the bottom of the column of asterisks, grabbing the author's credits on the way -2008-05-01.txt:21:49:45: <AnMaster> <ais523> I climb down to the bottom of the column of asterisks, grabbing the author's credits on the way -2008-05-06.txt:15:58:26: <ehird> ais523: i cant' resisit saying something about dumbing down :-) -2008-05-06.txt:19:48:54: <ehird> Deewiant: bingo -2008-05-08.txt:18:05:33: <ais523> ah, it's describing the same thign -2008-05-15.txt:00:22:06: * oerjan finds it slightly disturbing that apparently the frenchman wants tea while the englishman is referring to coffee -2008-05-20.txt:15:51:12: <pikhq> Bingo. :p -2008-05-30.txt:23:02:00: <ehird> and vaguely disturbing -2008-06-01.txt:19:32:30: <Slereah> Well, you're just describing priority. -2008-06-08.txt:16:29:35: <RodgerTheGreat> ah, bingo -2008-06-13.txt:19:45:35: <tusho> ais523: random noise = BINGO -2008-06-13.txt:20:01:48: <pikhq> Bingo. -2008-06-14.txt:20:00:49: <tusho> I might just use Narrative JS. It is, after all, exactly what I'm describing. :-P -2008-06-17.txt:22:03:30: <oklopol> fun - serious - ORGY - three dead in stabbing incident -2008-06-19.txt:21:34:53: <Slereah_> I find your lack of chanserv expertise disturbing. -2008-06-22.txt:16:54:15: <RodgerTheGreat> bingo -2008-06-23.txt:00:31:59: <oklopol> tusho: actually, how was astute wrong describing a comment? -2008-06-23.txt:22:00:52: <AnMaster> after a lot of heavy work and stubbing out stuff -2008-07-01.txt:16:17:16: <ais523> it's clear to me he's describing a paradigm -2008-07-04.txt:05:03:51: <RodgerTheGreat> in the past, I've made a handful of things like my self-randomizing bingo card: http://rodger.nonlogic.org/games/bingo.ps -2008-07-07.txt:15:16:08: <ais523> I'll fix that once I have a website up describing it -2008-07-07.txt:15:16:30: <ais523> there's a page in the C-INTERCAL manual describing IFFI now, so I just need to put the manual online and I can link to that -2008-07-07.txt:16:43:45: <Dewi> but no globbing -2008-07-07.txt:21:53:37: <ais523> AnMaster: the way CLC-INTERCAL works is so complicated that even I have trouble describing it -2008-07-09.txt:01:20:19: <RodgerTheGreat> lament: bingo! -2008-07-09.txt:23:25:22: <lament> augur: ...isn't that exactly what i was describing on the past ~5 lines? -2008-07-12.txt:14:53:09: <oklopol> not kinda disturbing. -2008-07-12.txt:17:57:12: <hotidlerchick> this is fucking disturbing -2008-07-16.txt:10:19:05: <oklopol> but it's kinda OO, you're always describing an object -2008-07-16.txt:13:57:36: <oklopol> AnMaster: anyway, this is what it looks like with newlines and tabbing: http://www.vjn.fi/pb/p466261364.txt -2008-07-16.txt:17:17:14: <Deewiant> and yeah, I've essentially been describing such an interface -2008-07-17.txt:21:52:10: <ais523> augur: by describing a compiler from cyclic tag systems into it -2008-07-19.txt:13:00:31: <oklopol> i should really start playing with ai, i almost get a boner from even looking at c++ code describing a flock of birds -2008-07-20.txt:00:05:52: <oklopol> stop rubbing it in my face, that was the stupidest mistake i've made in a month -2008-07-20.txt:04:10:34: <pikhq> Bingo. -2008-07-27.txt:22:02:57: <oklopol> i think sicp is a long book with too little confusing mind-numbing math -2008-07-29.txt:23:48:45: <tusho_> just never tried subscribing -2008-07-30.txt:02:38:16: <CakeProphet> when describing the structure of a sentence -2008-08-01.txt:14:16:38: <ais523> tusho: because it would be a Harbinger of the End of the World -2008-08-08.txt:21:19:18: <MikeRiley> grabbing -2008-08-08.txt:21:39:08: <tusho> optbot: agreed. a good eye-stabbing -2008-08-12.txt:11:42:40: <tusho> asiekierka: Er, you've been nabbing on about organizing brainfuck contests and thinking of various large projects (like games) to code in BF since 2007. -2008-08-12.txt:19:12:55: <tusho> ais523: blabbing like "IT'S MEANT FOR TESTING NEW ESOLANGS!!!11" and we told him that we had perfectly good computers for that, but we liked EsoBot because it's fun to see how it can survive -2008-08-12.txt:20:24:45: <AnMaster> 00.00.0000 action An integer describing what should happen on the change being triggered: -2008-08-13.txt:15:35:01: <asiekierka> describing my feelings -2008-08-16.txt:00:37:20: <pikhq> psygnisfive: Disturbing, but cool. -2008-08-16.txt:13:13:17: <AnMaster> I find bad typography really really disturbing when reading -2008-08-16.txt:20:49:00: <MikeRiley> gender is how you feel about yourself...sex is your plumbing.... -2008-08-20.txt:17:16:36: <MikeRiley> but i also have a document better describing what TRDS should be capable of doing.... -2008-08-22.txt:18:17:23: <Deewiant> AnMaster: btw, what funktio is doing is essentially grabbing the minimum coordinate over all funge-space cells -2008-09-02.txt:13:37:28: <fizzie> For disturbingly many X, "does perl have a X" has a positive answer. -2008-09-16.txt:15:09:08: <tusho> [[Why are videos worse than text? I have to consume them at the pace and in the order dictated by the producer. I cannot skim them. They take orders of magnitude more bandwidth. I cannot search for a word or phrase. I am unable to quote from them without transcribing by hand. I cannot easily page around to see the general shape, or pick out an interesting paragraph to read, or send a part to somebody else. They are not indexed properly by Google.] -2008-09-20.txt:21:44:49: <fizzie> That's more like unsubscribing. -2008-09-27.txt:22:09:02: <tusho> ais523: abstract: I am describing things in the it. -2008-09-30.txt:19:13:20: <tusho> jnode is disturbingly useful looking: -2008-10-09.txt:20:33:01: <oklopol> i mean, after subscribing -2008-10-09.txt:20:39:11: <ais523> on the other hand, Windows doesn't have FIFOs, so the plumbing might be harder -2008-10-16.txt:08:28:22: <fizzie> That's somewhat disturbing. The bot is going to "tune" me. -2008-10-19.txt:14:22:29: <AnMaster> Vpos A vector describing what cell to operate on in Funge-Space. -2008-10-19.txt:15:33:26: <ehird> until it runs away (deletes itself) sobbing -2008-10-20.txt:15:38:48: <oerjan> as for the second, i eagerly await when you will start climbing in the windows... -2008-10-21.txt:18:47:41: <ehird> AnMaster: um, make your parameters self-describing -2008-10-21.txt:20:08:06: <AnMaster> anyway can't record more now without disturbing ppl -2008-10-21.txt:23:29:19: <oerjan> disturbing -2008-10-21.txt:23:29:42: <oerjan> well, ook would be even more disturbing -2008-10-24.txt:11:16:46: <Ilari> What's ATHR? Any URL describing it? -2008-10-28.txt:22:32:53: <ehird> AnMaster: do you have a probing hash or a linked list hash? -2008-10-28.txt:22:33:23: <ehird> I have a feeling probing might be faster, foo++, arr[foo] "seems" faster than foo = foo->next, foo -2008-10-28.txt:22:35:16: <fizzie> As far as probing is considered, just linear probing might not be the best bet; it usually isn't. -2008-10-28.txt:22:35:25: <AnMaster> which type of probing, wikipedia mentions linear probing and quadratic probing -2008-10-28.txt:22:35:36: <ehird> AnMaster: Well, according to fizzie, quadratic probing :p -2008-10-28.txt:22:35:42: <ehird> I did quadratic probing -2008-10-28.txt:22:36:11: <ehird> but yeah go for quadratic probing -2008-10-28.txt:22:37:02: <fizzie> I did double hashing (read: the probe increment computed from a second hashing function) for my closed hash table; it did a bit better than quadratic probing, but I never benchmarked whether that advantage was eaten by the hashing overhead. -2008-10-28.txt:22:42:29: <ehird> [21:36] ehird: but yeah go for quadratic probing -2008-10-28.txt:22:42:33: <ehird> fizzie: I did double hashing (read: the probe increment computed from a second hashing function) for my closed hash table; it did a bit better than quadratic probing, but I never benchmarked whether that advantage was eaten by the hashing overhead. -2008-10-28.txt:22:44:46: <ehird> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_addressing this is just probing -2008-10-28.txt:22:45:59: <ehird> I'd just do linear probing and see the speedup, then refine -2008-10-28.txt:22:46:59: <fizzie> With linear probing you probably want to keep the table load factor within some sensible values. I understand it gets slow fast when the table is full enough, even with a good hash function. -2008-10-28.txt:22:49:13: <fizzie> Well, obviously with quadratic probing too, except with a different definition for "sensible". -2008-10-28.txt:22:50:48: <ehird> AnMaster: In the time we've talked you could have profiled the quadratic probing approach. -2008-10-29.txt:02:23:15: <oerjan> tabbing works though -2008-10-29.txt:15:25:34: <AnMaster> ehird, well if you want. I was reading up on different probing models and such -2008-10-29.txt:21:43:12: <fungot> fizzie: uni tübingen is actively working on hills, so expect php errors, and is it the most recent officially sanctioned one. -2008-11-01.txt:17:52:23: <ehird> what the heck are you blabbing on about -2008-11-01.txt:18:09:10: <oerjan> optbot: some may find that disturbing -2008-11-03.txt:17:56:38: <ais523> it's perfectly self-describing, yet basically impossible to use -2008-11-07.txt:11:53:02: <ais523> I do profiling the good old-fashioned and almost useless way, by grabbing a really precise timer as often as possible and counting the length of the intervals -2008-11-13.txt:15:51:36: <oklopol> i find it disturbing -2008-11-16.txt:21:28:05: <oklopol> that's what you'd do with english, something like "loop this action here; now do some other action; now print the number of cycles you went around the loop" <<< you wouldn't actually say, when describing the loop, that we're storing the cycle count -2008-11-22.txt:19:15:59: <oklopol> because i accidentally hit space after climbing the wall -2008-11-22.txt:22:18:22: <fizzie> These have the sort of time limits that when climbing up a ledge, you need to bounce off immediately; if you actually stop and stand on the ledge, you run out of time. -2008-11-22.txt:23:23:11: <fizzie> Although I almost ran out of time because I took the upward slope so carefully, and then had a lot of trouble climbing up the other pipe, due to not having done that sort of thing a lot in the previous levels. -2008-11-23.txt:13:24:15: <ehird> try climbing -2008-11-26.txt:21:39:08: <psygnisfive> well the challenge was to find an explanatory way of describing the restrictions :P -2008-11-26.txt:23:17:27: <psygnisfive> bing bing
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--- a/paste/paste.18428 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,824 +0,0 @@ -1) <Aftran> I used computational linguistics to kill her. -2) <Slereah> EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" -3) <Quas_NaArt> Hmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... <Quas_NaArt> More practice is in order. -4) <AnMaster> that's where I got it <AnMaster> rocket launch facility gift shop -5) <Warrigal> GKennethR: he should be told that you should always ask someone before killing them. -6) <Quas_NaArt> His body should be given to science. <GKennethR> He's alive :P <GreenReaper> Even so. -7) <oerjan> what, you mean that wasn't your real name? <Warrigal> Gosh, I guess it is. I never realized that. -8) <SimonRC> TODO: sex life -9) <Madelon> Lil`Cube: you had cavity searches? <Lil`Cube> not yet <Lil`Cube> trying to thou, just so I can check it off on my list of things to expirence -10) <reddit user "othermatt"> So what you're saying is that I shouldn't lick my iPhone but instead I should rub it on my eyes first and then lick my eyeballs? -11) <Madelon> 11 holes for me :D -12) <fungot> GregorR-L: i bet only you can prevent forest fires. basically, you know. -13) <Warrigal> "You're at that stage in your life where you're going to want to do some things in private." --my mom -14) <pikhq> First, invent the direct mind-computer interface. <pikhq> Second, you know the rest. -15) IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: <pikhq> First, invent the direct mind-computer interface. <pikhq> Second, learn the rest with your NEW MIND-COMPUTER INTERFACE. -16) <fizzie after embedding some of his department research into fungot> Finally I have found some actually useful purpose for it. -17) <oerjan> ehird has gone insane, clearly. -18) <FireFly> Meh <FireFly> ._. -19) <fungot> oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! -20) <bsmntbombdood> there is plenty of room to have two heads -21) IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: <bsmntbombdood> there is plenty of room to get head twice at once -22) <oerjan> In an alternate universe, ehird has taste -23) IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: <oerjan> In an alternate universe, I would say "In an alternate universe, ehird has taste" -24) <ehird> so i can only conclude that it is flawed, or the world is utterly bonkers -25) IN EINEM ALTERNATIVEN UNIVERSUM (WO DIE NAZIS WON): <ehird> So kann ich nur schliessen, dass es falsch ist, oder die Welt ist vollig BONKERS. Gegrusset seist du der Fuhrer Hitler! -26) SUPLENTES EN UN UNIVERSO (MUSSOLINI CUANDO CONQUISTO EL MUNDO): <ehird> i tan solo puede concluir que es defectuoso, o el mundo esta absolutamente loco. Todos a la gloria Il Duce! -27) PA ET ANNET UNIVERSET DER DE ENESTE PERSONEN OERJAN: <oerjan> sa jeg kan bare konkludere med at det er feil, eller er verden helt bonkers -28) <Deewiant> ehird: There is no h in "honour" -29) <ais523> after all, what are DVD players for? -30) <ehird> pikhq: A lunar nation is totally pointless. <fungebob> ehird: consider low-gravity porn <ehird> fungebob: OK. Now I'm convinced. -31) <zzo38> I am not on the moon. -32) <ehird> Or the brutal rape of the English language! <pikhq> That wasn't rape. English is always willing. -33) <oklopol> i can get an erection out of a plank, you can quote me on that. -34) <ehird> is there a problem with it being carbonized :D <augur> yes: carbonized coffee bean is known more commonly as "charcoal" -35) <oklopol> anyway, torture would be fun to experience, true <oklopol> should put that on my todo list -36) <lacota> I guess when you're immortal, mapping your fonts isn't necessary -37) <oklopol> i'm my dad's unborn sister -38) <ehird> `translatefromto hu en Hogy hogy hogy ami kemeny <HackEgo> How hard is that -39) <mycroftiv> [...] sometimes i cant get out of bed becasue the geometry of the sheet tangle is too fascinating from a topological perspective -40) <Dylan> actually, I pretended to be a hobo to get directions -41) <fizzie> Seconds. 30 of them. Did I forget the word? -42) <ehird> With enough crappiness a display can show you invisible pink unicorns. -43) <Deewiant> I spent the last minute or so killing myself repeatedly -44) <Aftran> It looks like my hairs are too fat. Can you help me split them? -45) <Deewiant> Reality isn't a part of physics -46) <Octalnet> oklofok: I'm a tad over-apologetic. I apologize. -47) <pikhq> Gregor is often a scandalous imposter. It's all the hats, I tell you. -48) <GregorR-L> If I ever made a game where you jabbed bears ... <GregorR-L> I'd call it jabbear. -49) <oklopol> GregorR: are you talking about ehird's virginity or your soda beer? -50) <ehird> no Deewiant <Deewiant> No?! <Deewiant> I've been living a lie <ehird> yep. <Deewiant> Excuse me while I jump out of the window -> -51) <GregorR> ??? <GregorR> Are the cocks actually just implanted dildos? <GregorR> Or are there monster dildos and cocks? <GregorR> Or are both the dildos and cocks monster? -52) <apollo> Maternal instincts? <apollo> Don't you just leave the thing in a box until it starts crying, and then shake it until it stops? -53) <Warrigal> I think hamsters cannot be inert. -54) <apollo> I like Country music, Contemporary Christian, Alt. Rock, Folk, etc. -55) <Madelon> yay fire! * Madelon combusts spontaneously. -56) <Warrigal> Porn. <Warrigal> There, see? -57) <apollo> So... copyright doesn't really apply to God. -58) <Madelon> both of you, quit it with the f-bombs. <Madelon> kaelis: what's the matter? something censoring stuff you're interested in? -59) <Sgeo> What else is there to vim besides editing commands? -60) <oklopol> hmm, this is hard -61) <oklopol> actually just ate some of the dog food because i didn't have any human food... after a while they start tasting like porridge -62) <oklopol> if a girl is that cute, i don't care how many penises she has -63) <Oranjer> oohhh <Oranjer> ha <Oranjer> heh <madbrain> and what are your other characteristics? <Oranjer> oh, many, madbrain <Oranjer> but it's hardly worth it to go on with listing that list here -64) * oerjan swats FireFly since he's easier to hit -----### <FireFly> Meh * FireFly dies -65) <fungot> Oranjer: the taylor's series is also alternately fnord as follows ( i'm using the latex notation here): david ben gurion signed the compensation agreement with germany when there was considerable division over these issues, because these are speculations without " any historical basis". -66) <fax> im the worst person in the world -67) <fungot> i am sad ( of course by analogy) :) smileys) -68) <fungot> ehird: every set can be well-ordered. corollary: every set s has the same diagram used from famous program talisman with fnord windows to cascade, someone i would never capitalize " i" -69) <oklopol> Warrigal: what do you mean by 21? -70) <coppro> SF.net porn :/ <ehird> Oh yeah, baby, gimme that... bloated download page? -71) <oklofok> i use dynamic indentation, i indent lines k times, if they are used O(n^k) times during a run of the program -72) <AnMaster> I'm 100% of what sort of magic was involved in it -73) <ehird> Gracenotes: No I said it does 54-bit -74) <Warrigal> Invalid! Kill! Kill! <Aftran> I get that feeling too. -75) <Warrigal> It's not incest if you're third cousins! -76) <@Lawlabee> Why does Monday start at 10PM on Sunday? -77) <Dylan> Warrigal is the Harlem Globe Frotter -78) <Eeyore> I used to have salt licks for my horses. They would make cool abstract sculptures with them. -79) <Sgeo|web> Where's the link to the log? <lament> THERE'S NO LOG. YOUR REQUEST IS SUSPICIOUS AND HAS BEEN LOGGED. -80) <fedoragirl> My mascot is a tree of broccoli. -81) [Warrigal] `addquote <Dylan> hahaha, Lawlabee is running windows <Lawlabee> 'cuz it's pretty awesome. [Lawlabee] Warrigal: :( -82) Note that quote number 124 is not actually true. -83) <Warrigal> Ah, vulva. <Warrigal> What is that, anyway? -84) <Slereah> I can do everything a Turing machine can do, except love -85) <MissPiggy> bi is like sqrt(2)/2 * straight + i * sqrt(2)/2 * gay -86) <virtuhird> Sgeo_: Gregorr: and someone could, by mistake, rewrite psox to be a weak erection if it is... A filename. -87) <Warrigal> So, I'm inside a bottle which is being carried by a robot. -88) <dtsund> For those who don't know: INTERCAL is basically the I Wanna Be The Guy of programming languages. Not useful for anything serious, but pretty funny when viewed from the outside. -89) <Warrigal> A person's sex is not the same thing as their penis length. -90) <scarf> and an AMICED literal would presumably /add/ info to the source <scarf> whatever info gets added, that's the value that the AMICED doesn't contain <scarf> it's all falling into place -91) <ais523> so a.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k.com might be self-relative, but a.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k.l.com always means a.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k.l.com.? -92) <ais523> let's put that in the HackEgo quotes files, just to completely mystify anyone who looks back along them in the future -93) <fax> oklopol geez what are you doing here <oklokok> ...i don't know :< <oklokok> i actually ate until now, although i guess i also did other things... -94) <songhead95> think of all the starving kids in china who don't have rotting sea life to eat -95) <Warrigal> Making a small shrine to Lawlabee in my basement is something I should get around to at some point. -96) <Warrigal> I seem to think of coaxial cables as being omnipotent somehow. -97) <vadim> it can be a good fursuit, but the good thing is that nobody can complain a fox doesn't have the right skin tone -98) <Gregor> I don't know that I've ever heard apocalypi described in terms of depth ... -99) <ais523> (still, whatever possessed anyone to invent the N-Gage?) -100) <Keiya> Why are the cops in GTA always so obsessed with my asshole? -101) <ais523> theory: some amused deity is making the laws of physics up as they go along -102) <Keiya> I want a patent on common sense <Keiya> It wouldn't get me much though >_> -103) <Miya> I perceived it so hard I actually went away :O -104) <AnMaster> fungot!*@* added to ignore list. <fungot> AnMaster: i'd find that a bit annoying to wait for an ack. -105) * Warrigal refuses to say goodbye to Quas NaArt, as he is coming closer, not going farther. -106) <fax> sekuoir: that's just gay sex <sekuoir> I am learning though! -107) <Gregor> Well yeah, but furthermore unlike, oh, say, an Apple product, you don't have to sign their "we own your sperm" license agreement to GET that SDK and the requisite libraries. ... <Gregor> pikhq: Sure, but it's the only way Apple could get a first-born-son clause into a modern licensing agreement without infringing child or slave labor laws. -108) <fax> okay I see it now, quines do exist -109) <Warrigal> Darn, now I can't acknowledge the reference you were making. -110) <soupdragon> if you claim that the universe is more than 3D the burden of proof is on you to produce a klien bottle that doesn't self intersect <soupdragon> ^ I learned that trick from atheists -111) * augur rubs alise's bum [...] <augur> what? she said square ped <augur> :| -112) <oerjan> insufficient time dilation. try running faster. -113) <fungot> alise: why internet is like wtf -114) <DoctorDog> I am an inherently pornographic being. -115) <Quas_NaArt> Hooray! <Quas_NaArt> I'm an idiot. -116) <oklopol> you move on the tape and shit -117) <alise> like, just like I'd mark "Bob knob hobs deathly poop violation EXCREMENT unto;" as English <ais523> alise: that's great filler <alise> ais523: well it contains all the important words in the english language... -118) <pikhq> And... WTF is it doing. <pikhq> :( <Sgeo_> Is it sexing? -119) <Bubo> ooh a test to see your procrastination hotspots <Bubo> ill do it later -120) <fungot> pikhq: from csh type ' exit', is a simple protocol which provides an interface to c. [...] -121) <fungot> alise: nobody is allowed to fnord me in soviet russia -122) <fungot> AnMaster: intercal-72 c-intercal clc-intercal j-intercal yes all versions all versions -123) <fungot> AnMaster: to any airbus plane. 3 passengers sadly died the most awesome thing ever. -124) <fungot> [...] i'm a law student so i am loving my bread machine -125) <AnMaster> alise, marble <AnMaster> marbelus -126) <alise> cmake is a nuclear powered waffle iron powered by a burning-hot testicle attachment <alise> and it burns one of the waffles and doesn't touch the other. -127) <coppro> we'd care about a turing-complete pencil -128) <oerjan> alise: mainly it's the fact it blows so hard i cannot avoid hitting the walls of the thing, which completely goes against my basic public toilet hygiene principles -129) <coppro> what's the data of? [...] <Sgeo> Locations in a now deceased game called Mutation <coppro> I have no problems with you being interested in online games <coppro> but the necrophilia is disturbing -130) <Mathnerd314> Gregor-P: I don't think lambda calculus is powerful enough -131) <Quas_NaArt> Because you're a Mac user. <lacota> I am! and proud of it to <lacota> My mouse has *no* buttons. -132) * Phantom_Hoover wonders where the size of the compiled Linux kernel comes from. <cpressey> To comply with the GFDL, there's a copy of Wikipedia in there. -133) <oklopol> but yeah i'm not exactly comfortable with this stuff, to me it seems like if you can unscrew lightbulbs, why couldn't you see into the future, or through walls as well -134) <AnMaster> oerjan, can you ever get any number higher than 3 at the start of "ordinary" [look-and-say sequences]? <ais523> it's not clear from the RFCs -135) <ais523> reading playboy for the articles actually seems plausible nowadays <ais523> after all, there's porn all over the internet, why would you /pay/ for it -136) <CakeProphet> how does a "DNA computer" work. <CakeProphet> von neumann machines? <Phantom_Hoover> CakeProphet, that's boring in the context of DNA. <Phantom_Hoover> It's just stealing the universe's work and passing it off as our own. -137) <fungot> CakeProphet: reading herbert might be enlightening in one hand he held a long worm can be greased. twice i got it nearly there, and the protector of cattle. mars is also mentioned as a rainbow. as a seated baboon sometimes with its head. -138) <fungot> ais523: killer bunnies can be harmed by domesticated canines only. -139) <fungot> ais523: elf corpses are not considered expensive health food. but the most expensive. -140) <zzo38> Some people are reasonable, some people who are not reasonable insist on changing things so therefore progress depends on not reasonablepeple -141) <ais523> cpressey: I have actually done a waterfall-model project that almost worked <cpressey> That's where you have a flexible kayak that bobs and weaves between the rocks as it plummets off the cliff -142) <Gregor> alise: I suck at coding related. -143) <cheater99> incest is best -144) <ivancastillo75> Oh I get it you guys just use this space to do nothing ? -145) <Sgeo> Why shouldn't I just do everything in non-Microsoft-specific C#? <ais523> it's like trying to write non-IE-specific JavaScript with only Microsoft documentation and only IE to test on -146) (in #irp) <Sgeo> Flonk, ask on #esoteric? <Flonk> Sgeo: yeah well its C++, so not that esoteric :P -147) <alise> So basically we're having an awful lot of very dangerous intercourse. <alise> Involving open wounds. <coppro> I'm going to take a shower -148) <Gregor> <badgood> GOODBAD! Your watered down brand of evil conflicts with my botched attempts at dogoodery! -149) <Phantom_Hoover> OK, so is conspiring to conspire to commit a crime a crime? <cpressey> Let's all get together and talk about defacing public property sometime -150) <pikhq> INTERNET <coppro> YAY <cpressey> Said like a once-drowning man, rescued, taking a breath. -151) <AnMaster> cpressey, oh go to zzo's website. He is NIH <Phantom_Hoover> AnMaster, really? I was strongly under the impression that zzo was invented here. -152) <nooga> i think of languages as tools, there is no holy grail of languages <olsner> even if there's no holy grail, that doesn't mean cups of crap is ok -153) <fungot> pikhq: it was fragrant with the scent of abomination. hear a speech declaring a holy war, is the man insane? some idiot missionary gets himself killed, some man writes some gibberish about the shape of a dragon, wonse?" -154) * Phantom_Hoover sticks crayons in his nose -155) <cpressey> Never ever use a quote which contains both the words "aloofness" and "gel" (verb). -156) <alise> I love logic, especially the part where it makes no sense. -157) <oklopol> pigeons are very smart. all the known ways to show a language is not regular are based on pigeons. -158) <ais523> it was too difficult -159) <Gregor-W> You people. You people are so stupid. I'm making a SOCIOLOGICAL statement here. -160) <ais523> you should be eating corpses more -161) <fungot> Sgeo: hahaah, and i love when they announced it i dare u to press alt f4 and your house ( acts 16:31 your bible) -162) <fungot> alise: so parrot was based around gcc? -163) <fungot> Vonlebio: well, i'm only back in denmark because my work visa expired. please insert token to continue. -164) <alise> Phantom_Hoover: Don't be nasty; he's a lunatic, not a murderer. -165) <oklofok> colon is where your ass comes from right -166) <cpressey> < ais523> then running repeatedly until you get the right sequence of random numbers < ais523> and just completely ignoring the input <-- some people live their entire lives this way, i reckon -167) <alise> "Europe is the national anthem of the Republic of Kosovo." <cpressey> alise: I <cpressey> I was going to say something then your last line floored me -168) <alise> Why do you use random acronyms you know we don't know the expansions of? <pikhq> alise: TLAAW -169) <fizzie> It's like mathematicians, where the next step up from "trivial" is "open research question". <fizzie> "Nope... No...This problem can't be done AT ALL. This one--maybe, but only with two yaks and a sherpa. ..." -170) <Vorpal> alise, it works fine for irc but interactive stuff? no. -171) <pikhq> Vorpal: YOU ARE AMERICAN -172) <oerjan> it's not obvious from quantum mechanics that you can destroy a universe arbitrarily. -173) <benuphoenix> the pregnant ones are usually taken already. -174) <fizzie> (I've just been playing with myself.) -175) <Phantom_Hoover> It's only been 2 months since anyone last made a commit! <alise> WRONG 8 WEEKS -176) <Phantom_Hoover> Doing logs with dc is probably indicative of something in the DSM. -177) <Vorpal> dc -e '[a=]P?[b=]P?[dSarLa%d0<a]dsax+[GCD:]Pp' # easier-to-read version -178) <Vorpal> ais523, what is "MS Publisher"? <Phantom_Hoover> Vorpal, you don't want to know. <ais523> Vorpal: be glad that you don't know the answer <alise> Vorpal: "horrible" -179) <alise> i like to imagine their mangled limbs. -180) <calamari> I got a game in my cereal box and I want to run it lol -181) <catseye> i like the feeling of freedom you get driving a bus -182) <oklopol> comex: what? <oklopol> *vorpal <oklopol> comex: hi, tab-complete completed c to comex instead of Vorpal, dunno why -183) <fungot> Vorpal: you can't plant spiders, duh! -184) <fungot> elliott: i like scsh's mechanism best: it's most transparent and doesn't really serve a very useful feature. -185) <fungot> ais523: my nose feels like a bad heuristic -186) <zzo38> catseye: Please wake up. Not recorded for this timezone. The big spider is not your dream -187) <fungot> elliott: it's hard to debug havoc on your mirror if you accidentally hit r, then a character could be multiple words long, depending on the task. -188) <ais523> syntax is the least important part of a programming language <ais523> other than Python -189) * Gregor bashes his head into the wall that is Sgeo. -190) [spam] Any flavored hell can pee on the pig pen, but it takes a real football team to throw a slyly optimal formless void at a hole puncher. -191) <oklopol> there's a rather clear separation into the 99% of esolangs that are fun syntax ideas, and the 3% that someone actually put some thought into. -192) <fizzie> I don't trust ducks. They always look like they're planning something. I'm not sure it's a good idea to give them language capabilities. -193) <cpressey> fizzie: I can never tell with OpenBSD! <cpressey> everything looks like an error anyway -194) <Sgeo> HOT SEXY SEX BITS -195) <Sgeo> How much do mainframes cost these days? I mean, they're obsoleteish, right? My notebook's much more powerful? So surely, they're cheap? -196) <Gregor> elliott: My university has two Poultry Science buildings. <Gregor> Two! -197) <olsner> DAMN YOU, I'm leaving <Vorpal> olsner, FINALLY NOTHING BETWEEN ME AND WORLD DOMINATION! -198) <pikhq> Give me a beaver and I'll put it to work. -199) <oklopol> well i just ate some stuff and watched family guy <oklopol> and i own a piano <oklopol> and i'm not wearing socks -200) <ais523> fizzie: 50kB is quite a lot -201) <Phantom_Hoover> [...] I'm just widening the shaft to be 4x2 or so. -202) <Zuu> it seems that CUIL is dead -203) <Sgeo> Hmm. I want to try vanilla extract now, but I don't want the alcohol -204) Thanks to nooga for constructive criticism, his ideas and being a constant annoyance. --http://theendisnear.no-ip.info/ -205) <elliott> Vorpal loves the sodomy. <Vorpal> elliott, sure why not -206) <elliott> So it's not exactly trivial. [Later about same thing] <elliott> It's a trivial C program :P -207) <Gregor> "* There is no scientifically-justifiable reason to exclude pornography, which is a vital part of the web ecosystem. However, bear in mind that we're tracing JavaScript, not MPEG and JPEG decoding." <Gregor> ^^^ This bullet-point is my crowning achievement as as a scientist. -208) <tswett> That is the mark of Gregor right there. <ais523> tswett: except that Gregor didn't write that <tswett> It's still the mark of Gregor. -209) <Phantom_Hoover> For instance, Jesus' Y chromosome was clearly GOD'S. -210) <Phantom_Hoover> OK, let's reduce the human genome to 4 chromosomes, in 2 homologous pairs. -211) <Vorpal> (had real world issues) <Vorpal> (to deal with) <ehird> Vorpal's pregnant. <Vorpal> yes -212) <tswett> elliott: just to bring you up to speed, you are now my baby nephew. <olsner> wtf, elliott is a nephew and his uncle is here? <nooga> what <tswett> Heck yes I'm elliott's uncle. -213) * pikhq sticks several thousand kg m^2/A s^3 through elliot <elliott> pikhq: I'm underage! -214) <pikhq> zzo38: A better definition would probably fix Avogadro's number. <Sgeo> It's broken? -215) <Sgeo> Oh. Stuff that uses actual physical numbers stemming from science. Bleh *gets bored* -216) <elliott> quintopia: that's offensive, i was in a mirror accident and now my second half is a permanent mirror <elliott> typing is kind of difficult -217) <Sgeo> My quotes are boring -218) <elliott> oerjan: What, can girls aim their penises better? -219) <l4rk> your premise to falsify "false" is false -220) <ais523> I love the way zzo38's comment was cut off after the f of brainfuck <ais523> that's just the most hilarious place to cut it off in a discussion about censorshi -221) "Every physicist wants to violate Einstein, but thus far the great man has remained pretty chaste." --Kode Vicious -222) <fizzie> The Perl script is probably slower than the Befunge code. -223) <Goosey> I can play crysis, but not minecraft? -224) <zzo38> Maybe they should just get rid of Minecraft. If more people want it someone can make using GNU GPL v3 or later version, with different people, might improve slightly. -225) <oerjan> elliott: i think i wrote a proof of 0*x = 0 on this channel once -226) * oerjan considered buying lutefisk, but apparently it cannot be prepared in microwave </bachelor frog> -227) <zzo38> Invent the game called "Sandwich - The Card Game" and "Professional Octopus of the World" (these names are just generated by randomly) -228) <zzo38> I have plans to make the computer and one day I will do it!! (I have access to barter some people might help with these things) It is many difference from other computer. -229) <elliott> </pedant> ... come to think of it, <pedant> -230) <Sgeo> Is there a name for something where I'm more attracted to someone if I know they've had a rough past? <variable> Sgeo, "Little Shop of Horrors" -231) <fizzie> And to think: if only we wouldn't celebrate birthdays, there would be no birthday paradox, and we could get by with half as long hash functions. (What do you mean it doesn't work that way?) -232) <elliott> clue is a language for beauty, not usefulness <elliott> or ability to run at all <oklopol> ability to run at all is not even close to a design goal, no -233) <Phatom__Hovver> LoTR actually compresses pretty well into a film; the large amount of description becomes unnecessary. <pikh> LotR would compress pretty well into a book; the large amount of description *is* unnecessary. -234) <j-invariant> 22:55 < qfr> How am I supposed to develop software in Haskell if I can't even prepare my projects in UML?! It seems like an impossible task. <j-invariant> HAHA [...] <j-invariant> this is amazing, like meeting a Mormon or something -235) <Dylan> as long as the first dozen pages don't contain the word "panties" it is probably a good story. -236) <quintopia> vorpal: a lot of people in AK fly <Vorpal> quintopia, well getting a pilot cert is a lot more complex than a driving license :P <quintopia> being an AK resident is a lot more complex than a driver's license too -237) <asiekierka> GCC: -Os -O2 -O3 gives a 4x improvment -238) <elliott> Getting bad programmers to like something is a failure. -239) [CTCP] Received CTCP-ERRMSG reply from clog: unknown CTCP: ERRMSG. -240) <elliott> i thought you said it was meant to be more useful in practice :D <ais523> elliott: well, it /is/, for sufficient values of useful in practice <ais523> umm, sufficiently small -241) <ais523> yay CDE -242) <oklopol> oerjan: also actually A(4, 4) is larger than any other integer, i learned this the other day when i was reading about this algo, it had complexity O(n a^-1(n)) = O(n a^-1(4)) -243) <oklopol> hey speaking of young, some kinds asked me to buy some tobacco for them and i did, and then they were all likd "wow that guy's coool" when i told them i don't need their money -244) <oklopol> ah yes, indeed, alan turing was gay and stupid -245) <nddrylliog> are you always careful to have a small enough margin so that it can't contain the proof? <oklofok> nddrylliog: i usually use latex, and make sure my hd is almost full -246) [on Walter Bright] <nddrylliog> I went to chat with him after his talk at the ELC and he was like "hum, right - humans. How do they work again... oh, hi!" -247) <nddrylliog> Sgeo: re "hm?": at the emerging languages conf., after the talks we went out for a drinks and all the Factor team was on heavy liquor -248) <elliott> mtve, now he's an expert idler. <nddrylliog> mtve: kitty kitty kitty -249) <Vorpal> ooh I want to see ehird pole dancing <ehird> I think that would be illegal. <Vorpal> oh you are right <Vorpal> damn :/ -250) <j-invariant> I need a new desktop background <Gregor> j-invariant: Try http://codu.org/spinners.png (tiled) <j-invariant> uhrghoaudp -251) * quintopia sits on gregor -252) <Phantom_Hoover> [...] reyouthismootherate [...] -253) <fizzie> Deewiant: Did you take the course at some point and/or were you taking it now and/or did you actually already graduate and/or are you still in Otaniemi anyway? -254) <nddrylliog> elliott: are you kidding? you're horrible, horrible people. That's why I feel at home here. -255) <locks> who's walter bright and why is he so bright <nddrylliog> locks: he's to D what I'm to ooc <nddrylliog> locks: guilty -256) <A. Gelman and G. Romero> We originally wrote this article in Word, but then we converted it to Latex to make it look more like science. -257) <Phantom_Hoover> This is good if you are a wheat plant but bad if you like eating wheat seeds. -258) <zzo38> ais523: Maybe it is better, because I don't think the octopus will live very well in the tree. But the difference is that the Internet is lying and you cannot see such things; you could make modified picture, though, in order to lie more clearly, at least. -259) <ais523> gah, why does lose keep winning? -260) <oerjan> (the former is a very deep theorem, i'd have had to read the whole book to understand it, so i didn't.) -261) <quintopia> who is guido van rossum <olsner> you could say he's a man who grew a beard but acquired none of the associated good properties -262) <olsner> actually, I think vorpal is the "retarded team member" to the left -263) <elliott> Deewiant: ha, you were wrong, I have stacks, fungespace and MULTIPLE functions! <elliott> and a monad! <elliott> nothing can stop me now! -264) <Vorpal> !bfjoust test (-)*10000 <EgoBot> Score for Vorpal_test: 12.9 <Vorpal> yay -265) <Vorpal> !bfjoust test (++-)*1000000 <Vorpal> probably will suck <EgoBot> Score for Vorpal_test: 30.4 <Vorpal> what -266) <Vorpal> `addquote <elliott_> I'm a bit 'tarded. <Vorpal> (NOTHING PERSONAL!) -267) <ineiros> HELLWORLD! <fizzie> It's like HELLO WORLD, except not *quite*. <ineiros> There is more agony. -268) <Deewiant> My STRN.G detects runoff strings that haven't been terminated but would hit a zero after wrapping and tries to allocate the 16+-gigabyte-stack required -269) <xplat> so you have legacy software in befunge that needs supported? -270) <oerjan> <Gregor> oerjan: Tell us what (a(b{c}d)*2e)%2 expands to <-- ababcdbcdedbabcdbcdede, i think <Gregor> oerjan: What - the - fuck -271) [on egojoust] <elliott> The fact is that EgoBot's % handling is O(slow) and O(big), and mine isn't. -272) <ais523> OK, I give up, logging into Wikia is harder than writing a Firefox extension -273) <Deewiant> !bfjoust sm3 < <EgoBot> Score for Deewiant_sm3: 43.4 -274) <fizzie> $ perl -e '/? <-- HERE/' Quantifier follows nothing in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/? <-- HERE <-- HERE/ at -e line 1. -275) <Gregor> !bfjoust furry_furry_strapon_pegging_girls http://sprunge.us/eKWa * Sgeo had no idea that Gregor was hetero -276) <Gregor> I'm blond with blue (sort of) eyes, so I could totally stealth my way through the holocaust ... or some such logic :P -277) <fizzie> file:///home/fis/src/chainlance/tapestats.png -- yes, I think it's nice that way when the edge is always the opponent's flag. -278) <zzo38> If you want to use TeX formats invented by Christians, use Plain TeX. However, I do not think the religion of its author is a good way to decide what to use. I decide to use Plain TeX for its own reasons. -279) <elliott> lol @ closed character set standard <elliott> "What does this codepoint represent?" "Nobody knows." -280) [on DNA Maze] <ais523> it requires more thought than Vorpal seems to be capable of -281) <nddrylliog> back to legal tender, that expression really makes me daydream. Like, there'd be black-market tender. Out-of-town hug shops where people exchange tenderness you've NEVER SEEN BEFORE. -282) <fizzie> Phantom_Hoover: I have just one tvtropes page open in elinks, but my tvtropes.txt "queue" has 38 tvtropes.org URLs waiting for processing. -283) * yorick has quit (K-Lined) -284) <zzo38> Lymia: I put big spider in my bed already. So if you have no more left you do not have to worry about it anymore. You can just take a cold shower or hot acid or whatever you want to, instead. -285) <ais523> gah, who'd have thought removing concurrency from algol could be so difficult -286) <elliott> 320 quotes and still not a funny one yet! -287) <oklopol> zzo38: you missed the point. the point was way stupider than that. -288) <elliott> just because i'm homosexual <elliott> doesn't mean i have sex with men. <elliott> ...i'm also a paedophile [...] <elliott> see if i'm a gay paedophile <elliott> i don't have sex with men <elliott> i have sex with BOYS -289) <oklopol> actually the first joke i thought elliott was making was that he's so small masturbation is gay pedophilia -290) * elliott injects coke into his testicles -291) <zzo38> Why do you want to have sex in everything? I don't want. -292) <oklopol> okay see in my head it went, you send from your other number smth like "i'd certainly like to see you in those pink panties again" and she's like "WHAT?!? Sgeo took a pic?!?!?! that FUCKING PIG" -293) <Phantom__Hoover> Gregor, yeah, but Purdue has poultry science facilities beyond the dreams of avarice. -294) <zzo38> However is probably better to have both queen/king and government in case one does bad thing, the other side can argue to them -295) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -296) <oklopol> shit would make great currency, because everyone would have it and you could literally be filthy rich -297) <fungot> elliott: there go my minutes of research!! -298) <Warrigal> My penis is definitely way smaller than that. -299) <tswett> There are white Africans out there, but, you know. A black swan in the hand does not imply causation. -300) <fungot> Phantom_Hoover: if the list is in random order, like poor ehird here -301) <Phantom_Hoover> elliott, incidentally, I started my explorations again after getting bored of the Himalayas. -302) * Received a CTCP VERSION from nyuszika7h * VERSION Microsoft IRC# 2011 64-bit (Windows 8 Beta, x64, 2GB RAM) <nyuszika7h> Gregor: Windows 8 Beta? o_O <Gregor> A small benefit of my brief time as an intern at MS. -303) <cpressey> addquoting yourself? isn't that like commenting on your own facebook status? <Gregor> Yup, but I'm JUST THAT AWESOME. -304) <fungot> Phantom_Hoover: mutation is often considerably harder for both humans and compilers can analyze it much more difficult' part that induces bloody vomit... huh....intriguing -305) <fungot> oerjan: are you in an aware state when the only hammer you have is for variable assignation and blocks -306) <oklopol> quintopia: no i'm not laughing at you, i'm laughing because *you're stupid* <oklopol> i mean <oklopol> with you -307) 00:07 Sgeo has quit (IRC is taking up too much of my time. I need time to study the Bible and find Christ.) 00:12 Sgeo has joined #esoteric. -308) <zzo38> Is anyone in here who knows cricket rules and has experience? <Slereah> What if I told you the baseball rules in a british accent? -309) <zzo38> I also do not like that it should be disallow just because of too weird. They haveto make up more name so that not everyone has the same name!!! -310) <catseye> wow, thinkgeek really makes me hate being alive -311) <olsner> it is from 2002 though, I was younger then -312) <elliott> ais523: quick, say something funny <oklopol> something funny hagrea:D <oklopol> can'tä sopt laughitn -313) <ais523> elliott: hey, thinking's easier than using the Internet -314) <ZOMGMODULES> elliott: parents who put just "Chris" on a birth certificate are... like parents who put just "Bob" on a birth certificate. -315) <Phantom_Hoover> ZOMGMODULES, St. Christopher, saint and werewolf. -316) <olsner> django is named after a person? <olsner> thought it would be a giraffe or something -317) <Gregor> Ohheywait, I can make it a raytracer instead of a photon tracer so long as I run time backwards. -318) <cpressey> BYE dbc WE'LL BE SURE TO ACCIDENTALLY MENTION YOUR NICK OFTEN -319) <tswett> Of course, "b" is clearly just "pv". <tswett> Say "pvottle". It will sound... similar to exactly the same as "bottle". -320) [After a long monologue] <oklopol> i think i have to escape this heated discussion before it becomes a flamewar -321) <Gregor> That's for $literals in the parser. It should maybe be atol too, but probably you shouldn't have nonterminals with more than two billion children. -322) <zzo38> elliott: I doubt water memory can last for even one second in a gravitational field (or even outside of a gravitational field), but other people think they can make water memory with telephones. -323) <oklopol> i'm really sleep -324) <Gregor> elliott: Fythe-generated code doesn't use C calling conventions, because C calling conventions are for pussies. -325) <lament> elliott: well what i would do if i were omniscient and omnipotent would be to create an immortal woman with perfect tits and bang her for the rest of eternity -326) <Gregor> I use LiGNUXFCE+apps <Gregor> That's pronounced by saying "Linux" and then vomiting, btw. -327) <monqy> I've only watched bad movies about video game. I enjoyed every second of it. -328) <oklopol> and then there's the slightly annoying one where suddenly, i start rolling forward and i can't stop <oklopol> like i can be having some great sex dream or whatever and then suddenly "oh god not this again" <oklopol> (i go "not this again" but not necessarily realize it's a dream) -329) <Vorpal> elliott, it was an artful robbery! <Vorpal> wait, murder -330) <zzo38> I think I managed to make Stack Overflow work on gopher, now. -331) <oklopol> haha, god made one helluva blunder there :DS <oklopol> "WHOOPS HE AIN'T DEAD YET!" <oklopol> "luckily no one will believe him because christians are such annoying retards" -332) <zzo38> Not all Christians are, but there are a lot of Christians that are such annoying retards. -333) <elliott> <Yahweasel> <Vorpal> that one doesn't make a lot of sense outside context. Unless it is supposed to be a rather lame joke about STD as in HIV, and so on // HELLO WELCOME TO QUOTE DATABASES 101 -334) <elliott> A priori one cannot say that post hoc ergo propter hoc the diminishing returns would give; yet under quid pro quo one can agglutinate fabula and sujet into vagrancies untold. <elliott> See? I'm intellectual. -335) <Sgeo_> I think she either likes me, is neutral towards me, or dislikes me -336) <Phantom_Hoover> DON'T MOCK ME WITH YOUR ABILITY TO DIVIDE BY TEN -337) <Phantom_Hoover> Oh, Hitler! You and your wacky antics! -338) <crystal-cola> anyway I've stopped ``trolling'' <crystal-cola> since apparently you guys don't like me claiming obviously false and absurd claims -339) <oklopol> i actually do like sucking -340) <zzo38> [...] you cannot always sanity, please. I can sometimes sanity, please. -341) <oklopol> i understand that people had to use twitter and facebook before irc was invented, but now they just feel like ancient history -342) <pikhq> o.O <pikhq> There's a birth defect which results in the formation of a cloaca. <Gregor> It's called "not being a mammal" :P -343) <ais523> the big issue with category theory is that pretty much everything forms a category -344) <oklopol> esperanto is just spanish with a diarrhea -345) <oklofok> destroying a local copy of the world is kind of like raping a robochick with a shovel tho -346) <elliott> ais523: YOU WILL HAVE YOUR QUOTE SOON -347) <crystal-cola> I just thought you might have meant the Ramanujan tau and I was WOAH he weilds heavy weapons -348) <crystal-cola> http://www.sessionmagazine.com/img/nature/worlds-10-smallest-animals/worlds-10-smallest-animals07.jpg <crystal-cola> worlds biggest thumb -349) <elliott> oerjan: why so potable ...... <oerjan> DRINK ME -350) <crystal-cola> what telnets are there [...] <crystal-cola> where are a list of telnets? -351) <crystal-cola> (im not a lawyer) <crystal-cola> (im just making stuff up -352) <tswett> Grr. Why does it exist? Why can't I kill it? -353) <olsner> boston cream pie? sounds related to a cleveland steamer -354) <crystal-cola> here's a good multiplication algorithm <crystal-cola> 1010101 x 110 <crystal-cola> well <crystal-cola> I don't know how to do it but it starts like that -355) <crystal-cola> 3 = 7/2 -356) <Cheery> [...] OOPS.. my cockfile got destroyed -357) <Cheery> when I command it to do couple useful operations it instead mutilates my cock. -358) <Cheery> right now. but I'm about 4kiB away from a lisp interpreter running off the .cock -359) <zzo38> <elliott> <quintopia> i know it's unusual, but i agree with you both to some extent -360) <elliott> Nationalism is no more (probably less) logical than consumerism, after all, as stupid as the word "logical" is as a system to rank things -361) <Gregor> Write-only IRC: best idea <coppro> Gregor: we have that. It's called Twitter -362) <elliott> AV is better than first-past-the-post, like every voting system apart from the Random Elephant Stomping method -363) <Phantom_Hoover> Scotland turns from red and yellow to A DIFFERENT SHADE OF YELLOW -364) [on Sgeo's karaoke] <not_nddrylliog> Sgeo: awesome <not_nddrylliog> sounds like a japan anime sound track -365) [on Sgeo's karaoke] <Phantom_Hoover> That is the thing that made me into a gay vampire. -366) <Phantom_Hoover> Yeah, I went through a whole series of existential crises when I was 8 or so. -367) <elliott> Top universities now employ people to watch infomercials all day to find the latest mysteries. -368) <augur> oerjan you're swedish, right? -369) <monqy> my most fresh dream is one where I'm at a soup contest and a chicken really wants to participate but he's disqualified so he becomes the judge. when all the soups are done and he's ready to taste them he just stares at the soup and then I become the chicken and I really want to make soup -370) <Gregor> Google Maps has options for "avoid highways" and "avoid tolls", but no "avoid Chicago" -371) <cpressey> `quote django <HackEgo> 352) <olsner> django is named after a person? <olsner> thought it would be a giraffe or something <cpressey> thankfully only one -372) <monqy> `quote django <HackEgo> 352) <olsner> django is named after a person? <olsner> thought it would be a giraffe or something \ 407) <cpressey> `quote django <HackEgo> 352) <olsner> django is named after a person? <olsner> thought it would be a giraffe or something <cpressey> thankfully only one <monqy> thankfully only two -373) <cpressy> yeah the designers of the C++ template system really should have done a better job considering input <pikhq> s/done a better job considering input/been shot/ -374) <Sgeo> I was more of a pervert in Metaplace than Utherverse <Sgeo> I invented Metaplace sex >.> -375) <elliott> sgeo do you actually know what sex looks like i am just checking here <Sgeo> I think so -376) <ZOMGMODULES> I can trust elliott_ to have an opinion on anything and everything <elliott_> Yes. <elliott_> And the best thing is: it is the correct opinion. -377) <ZOMGMODULES> Vorpal: it's actually called Happy <ZOMGMODULES> Vorpal: Do not use it. Use Parsec. This is the wisdom of ZOMGMODULES. -378) <oklofok> i hope that isn't child pornography <oklofok> whew <oklofok> equally cute tho, have to admit -379) <ZOMGMODULES> Felix's home page and Falcon's home page are actually the same page -380) <ZOMGMODULES> scripting language. whole program analysis. together at last -381) <zzo38> I figured out something about C program. If you use ? : a lot then you don't need as much parentheses but it makes it more difficult to understand. -382) <zzo38> Finally I found the wand of electric lightning now we can destroy any large object if it needs to be destroyed and is required to use a such a wand for that purpose. -383) <olsner> two quotes about quotes about django <olsner> I guess the worst part is that I appear in all three hackego quotes about django -384) <elliott_> `addquote <olsner> two quotes about quotes about django <olsner> I guess the worst part is that I appear in all three hackego quotes about django <olsner> elliott_: another quote? you're not helping :/ -385) <CakeProphet> [...] I'm not very well-versed in lame. -386) <Phantom_Hoover> Lymia, I don't know what that is but I want to hit you for it on principle. -387) <Sgeo> Oracle's awesome -388) <GregorR> How to make a tasty deep-fried treat: 1) Buy ingredients: Large vat of boiling oil, dry ice and a small Filipino boy. 2) Place Filipino boy in dry ice until frozen solid. 3) Shatter now-frozen Filipino boy into boiling oil. 4) Wait fifteen minutes, drain and enjoy! <CakeProphet> I have the weirdest boner right now. -389) <Vorpal> CakeProphet, the X support is fairly recent. Not more than a few decades old -390) <elliott> oerjan: but hypothetically, assume a Christian spontaneously materialised during the apocalypse -391) <pikhq_> And if they wanted to go for "true" security, they'd just do "Warning: your computer has not been turned into a plasma. This may cause some of your personal data to be stolen. Click here to turn your computer into a ball of incandescent gas, a gigantic nuclear furnace." -392) <fizzie> [...] So it'll be a while before the boob will touch you back. -393) <fizzie> You make a fist, shake it at the sky, and shout "why, GNU, why?!" -- that is the standard reportig practice. -394) <Phantom_Hoover> The system I kind of have in mind makes a flying train a natural consequence. -395) <EgoBot> hey fhet's zeees OouooH SNEP IT'S A FOooCKING TIGER -396) <zzo38> Learn to be Chinese and kill yourself -397) <Sgeo> Hmm. I guess it's nearby GRBs that would be problematic? <Phantom_Hoover> Sgeo, if by 'problematic' you mean 'what's that in the AAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHH'. -398) <oklopol> yes i use the services of a psychic, but i'm considering getting a live one since stuff like "hello $name, your first name $first_name has |$first_name| letters, so by using numerology we can tell ..." is getting kind of boring -399) <zzo38> Fiddle. It makes a big difference, you know. -400) <oklopol> but touchscreens should feel like poking a boob -401) <oklopol> are there boobs you wack and squeeze around to move the mouse? [...] <oklopol> like those little nipples in laptop keyboards, but they'd be full-blown boobies -402) [after a long string of Lymia getting lambdabot to spit out huge, meaningless type signatures] <Lymia> I need to learn more Haskell... <CakeProphet> ..I need to get op privs. -403) <ais523> I think I managed something like a one-expression increment that was only a few hundred characters long -404) <monqy> Sgeo: also do you know how to write a parser <Sgeo> monqy, how hard could it be? -405) <Sgeo> I hope type inference isn't difficult -406) <Gregor> You have no idea how desperately I want to avoid being a GC guy :P <Gregor> Every year I go to ISMM and Doug Lea gives me a bizarrely-cheery "Hello!" and I'm like "awww shit I'm in memory management" -407) <oklopol> anyway i have to get going, first lecture at 9 and i need to do a few iterations on my article, and do some unmentionable things which also take hours <oklopol> and masturbate as well -408) <Phantom_Hoover> The eigenratio of reality has to be enormous, though. -409) <oklopol> so about jacuzzis, do they usually have a way to make it it not heat but freeze the water? -410) [on spiking] <CakeProphet> drugs are expensive. It would be a waste to use them on a random stranger. -411) <oklofok> what would you ever need petrol for <oklofok> newsflash: it doesn't actually taste that good -412) [on petrol] <ais523> oklofok: it's actually poisonous, so I advise against drinking it <Phantom_Hoover> ais523, also contains benzene, my carcinogen of choice. -413) <oklofok> "<pikhq> elliott: Americans also have 20 mile one-way commutes." <<< one-way commutes? you have like disposable jobs? -414) <oklofok> if i became a serial killer, it'd be because i want to kill people, not because i'm crazy -415) <elliott> It's a Toy Story character, you uncultured fuck. -416) <elliott> HAHAHAHA NO FNARF QUOTES EVER <Gregor> Oh noooooooooooooooooose! <elliott> Gregor: lol nose geddit -417) <olsner> you should know better than making þs out of wedlock -418) <elliott_> I'm not even going to try and understand what you're proposing. <oerjan> i understand it perfectly. it's completely nuts. -419) <Sgeo> I used to be more irritated by alcohol <olsner> Sgeo: you're not supposed to put it in your eyes -420) * perlmonkey is pursuing the line of reasoning that eating raw foods can improve cognitive function <Phantom_Hoover> perlmonkey, well, it certainly makes you think about what you'd rather be eating. -421) <Gregor> You just went from "no sexualized ads" to "we have ads for dildos, but they're different for ads for Orangina" X-D -422) <coppro> elliott: actually, it's worse right now, I'm in the USA <coppro> where the solution to counterfeiting problems is "add more ink" <coppro> eventually all US bills will just be solid green -423) <ais523_> meanwhile, I've been running a program for over 24 hours (getting close to 48 now) which is calculating digits of pi, in binary <ais523_> so far, it has found four digits <ais523_> I hope it will find the fifth some time this week -424) <Phantom_Hoover> The wickedest man of all. <Phantom_Hoover> Surpassed only in wickedness by the wicked witches of the west and east. <copumpkin> you talking about me again? <Phantom_Hoover> Yes. <copumpkin> k -425) <Sgeo_> "system is fairly sane <Sgeo_> <elliott> imagine if the roomba was called the Robotic Magic Vacuum <Sgeo_> <elliott> would you object to that being trademarked <Sgeo_> <monqy> I mean <Sgeo_> <monqy> phrase trade" <Sgeo_> oops -426) <Sgeo_> Something about faiing a asanity check <Sgeo_> sanity <Sgeo_> faliling <Sgeo_> failing -427) <zzo38> Sanity is insufficient by itself. Many other things are also important. -428) <olsner> as always in sweden everything goes to a fixed pattern: thursday is queueing at systembolaget to get beer and schnaps, friday is pickled herring, schnaps and dancing the frog dance around the phallos, saturday is dedicated to being hung over -429) <oerjan> i never meta turing. he died before i was born. -430) <elliott> oerjan: can you delete that and the meta turing completeness page <elliott> thanks <oerjan> elliott: IN UNIVERSO ALTERNATIVO, OERJAN PAGINAS DELET -431) <Gregor> decrypt 'illustrates the "can do" approach of conservatism in a patriotic way' -432) <elliott> Gregor: do you have any idea how overrated lives are <Gregor> Damn right! -433) <Gregor> "<Gregor> Damn right!" wouldn't be much of a quote :P -434) <elliott> im going to resurrect rutian <elliott> with vitamin pills <elliott> and book sales -435) <oerjan> adding quotes by yourself is strictly prohibited and will lead to you being banned -436) <oerjan> as i was filled with zzo38 mystery at the moment i saw <zzo38> quintopia: I am at Canada. -437) <NihilistDandy> elliott: His mouse obeys the law of the excluded middle :/ -438) <Phantom_Hoover> I go to clean up the shrapnel from a teabag and you're discussing the definition of god out of nowhere. -439) <d1ffe7e45e interpreter> The interpreter uses an unbounded tape size, but due to technical limitations will stop being unbounded if the tap size reaches 2^63 cells. -440) <Sgeo> Will anyone be irritated if I tend to disconnect and reconnect a lot? [...] <oerjan> we _almost_ have an established policy that bots will be banned it they do that. which means we might have to administer a turing test to sgeo, and that could get ugly. -441) <Phantom_Hoover> oerjan, little do you realise that everything you say and do is part of that great monad tutorial we call life. -442) <ais523> Phantom_Hoover: nope, I removed . from the current directory -443) <oklopol> [...] only the hamster's nervous system was tortured. although probably torturing a large logical gate constitutes a horrible thing to do if it comes in a cute container. -444) <Phantom_Hoover> pikhq, living in the future sucks. <Phantom_Hoover> The past just keeps coming up to us and trying to make us feel guilty. -445) <Gregor> oklopol: Why do you have so much experience with hoop-and-stick? :P <oklopol> Gregor: my fetish: learning pointless skills -446) <oklopol> such a famous bisexual <Phantom_Hoover> Yeah, like Marlon Brando. <Phantom_Hoover> And Caligula. <Phantom_Hoover> And... Keeley Hawes? <Phantom_Hoover> I feel cheated by Ashes to Ashes now. -447) <tswett> elliott: by the way, you're now almost capable of crawling. -448) <monqy> it was a wonderful dream <monqy> i died in it <monqy> that's how it started -449) <ais523> the thing about modern semiconductor design is, 0s are more powerful as 1s -450) * Sgeo mutters about broken toilets <Sgeo> #toilet is useless <monqy> is #toilet even a thing <Sgeo> I'm looking for help with toilets -451) <Sgeo> Dear eHow: Please don't assume that my toilet works like that <Sgeo> Or, at least, my toilet looks different -452) <oklofok> mixing drinks together is like taking all of mozart's works and listening to all of them at once <oklofok> and in general a drink - and most foods - are kind like taking a song and then just taking the average of the notes and listening to it for three minutes. <oklofok> olsner: the point is you don't have to be the composer yourself <oklofok> not everyone knows what sequences of drinks taste the best -453) <oklofok> drinks should come in long long pipes that drip liquid at varying speeds, and you shouldn't just casually taste to them, you should really try to understand what the artist (the canposer?) was trying to convey when making the drink <oklofok> olsner: well you know i'm a genius. anyway i like how food works tho, because it has both the element of composing and choice, it's kind of like an rpg really -454) <Madk> #%%:]__t�# <Madk> do you see that <Madk> that is great progress taking place -455) <oklopol> well you know because i could've used my "wtf, you have multiple identity elements smiley" o=oO=O <oklopol> yeah, i have a smiley for everything. -456) <fungot> elliott: i have yet to demonstrate that the sml community has less productive power than the real chunk of meat. -457) <fizzie> elliott: You have become the very thing you fought for! -458) <fizzie> Deewiant: Well, I guess you could argue so. But to me a it's not a real clobbering if you can still tell there was something that got clobbered. -459) <Taneb> Turned out he got recursion, he just didn't get the return statement -460) <SgeoN1> No nasty sounds for a while now. Going to turn off and on and see if the numbers get worse. -461) * Sgeo is risking massive forest fires <Sgeo> The bacon is worth it -462) <augur> ive been in #haskell and #agda primarily, recently <Phantom_Hoover> So is #agda now full of dependently-typed gay sex? -463) <oklopol> you know that thing in the movies where they put a pillow on someone's face and try to suffocate them <oklopol> that doesn't work. <oklopol> we tried that with my ex once, but we just couldn't kill each other that way -464) <fizzie> The zipWith Camel, a famous World War 1 era airplane. -465) <Taneb> Cut to February <Taneb> War were declared <Taneb> A galaxy in turmoil <Taneb> Anyway, Febuary '10 -466) <Taneb> I can't afford one of those! <Taneb> A grandchild, not a laser printer -467) <oklopol> doctor who. i saw part of one episode of that and it reminded me of buffy the vampire slayer. -468) <NihilistDandy> MY CONTINUITY <NihilistDandy> MY FANFICTION <NihilistDandy> RUINED -469) <itidus20> to assume that someone can be described by a rule without exception... is to assume they are omnipotent <oklopol> for instance stones are omnipotent, as they don't do anything, without exception -470) <oklofok> god created the natural numbers, the rationals were done by man and the work was finally completed (topologically) by satan himself -471) <ais523> (I don't include needing to use an object-oriented view of things as a reason to use C++, as C is better at that) -472) <Gregor> I have a WRT120N <fizzie> Gregor: The WRT160NL has 40 units more of... stuff. Plus an L. -473) <fizzie> There's that saying that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [...] <Taneb> You've just gave me a different result [...] <fizzie> It's always insane to expect different results, even when it's likely to occur. -474) <Taneb> Someone with that sort of grasp of logic shouldn't be allowed anything more computationally powerful than a plastic spoon -475) <Taneb> That offers me some social standing, feudal system wise -476) <oklopol> interestingly enough, go is a second player win <oklopol> chess is also first player win <oklopol> tennis, interestingly enough, is always a draw. -477) <Taneb> Look, I often walk my dog through a field with cows in it. And I punched myself in the face once. -478) <Sgeo> I'm having nostalgia for when we could see the glass from the floor -479) <NihilistDandy> The Russian's emblem was the hammer and sickle, not the fist and other fist -480) <fizzie> Deewiant: So you... reverse the byte order manually, but then call ntohl too? <Deewiant> fizzie: The host might be big-endian! -481) <elliott> God, I sure do hate Apple and their header files that only include the functions they're specified to. -482) <elliott> Do one better! Pretend to be an idiot until YOU DIE. -483) <Taneb> So... God has jizzed on everything? <oklopol> have you even READ the bible? -484) <elliott_> Vorpal: Won't be slower than Python ;-) <Vorpal> elliott_, yeah but that is like saying a T-Ford going down a hill won't be slower than a bicycle uphill on a bumpy road :P -485) <Taneb> This staircase is very good for correcting people's opininons about communism -486) <monqy> rest in peace lambdabot???? <ais523> monqy: it'll probably be back later <monqy> nap in peace -487) <Vorpal> ais523, how are we supposed to guess before you tell us unless you give us more hints? -488) <ais523> 99% OF USES OF STRDUP ARE ILLEGAL! -489) <NihilistDandy> Non sequitur is my forte <NihilistDandy> On-topic discussion is my piano <Taneb> Bowls of sugary breakfast cereal is my mezzoforte <Taneb> Full fat milk is my pianissimo <Taneb> On which note, I'm hungry -490) <elliott> in the title of the page it says "Well-Typed - The Haskell Consultants" but i want to know who are the haskell conraisins? -491) <zzo38> If in some day, I publish some book, that might include some of the programs I have written too, but also some other books, possibly. However I never yet publish any book. -492) <itidus20> monqy: last night in my dreams I saw a false photo album of my childhood... looking ghostly -493) <monqy> itidus20: i saw a dancing cgi skeleton named malaria. i danced and played with him. -494) <itidus20> It's ok guys. I am doing what I can to keep my psyche and ego surviving. All the while the threat of ww3 looms, the mortality of family and friends(loved ones?) and sooner or llater my own mortality. -495) <NihilistDandy> Capitalism is a cancer. But I'm a smoker, anyway, so... -496) <itidus20> Game theory is not a perfect tool for analyzing video games. <itidus20> Nash failed to create a "video game theory" -497) <itidus20> australia kicks ass <itidus20> we have kangaroos and DMM and isn't afraid of anything -498) <Sgeo> My memory passed <monqy> rest in peace sgeos memory -499) <monqy> cigaretes and drunking "lame highs for lame people" <oerjan> yeah if it doesn't make you go crazy and shoot at people, it's not worth it. take it from a norwegian. -500) <fungot> tswett: last argument must be a cub scout!! have you made your money-drop today?? -501) [2008] <nooga> i'm testing Haiku <nooga> and it appears that it is a major shit <oerjan> 5+7+5, not 5+11, nooga -502) <Taneb> Speaking of the CiSRA puzzles, anyone want to form a team <oerjan> i avoid my duties by carefully never registering to anything new -503) <Taneb> aibohphobia <Taneb> The fear of palindromes -504) <Phantom_Hoover> Sgeo_, the origin of suffering is desire for e-book readers. -505) <zzo38> elliott_: No it isn't a game, it is a computer game -506) <ais523> it actually worked, and faster than using Excel for rendering -507) <Patashu> Tomorrow's computer viruses will extend robotic arms from your computer to fiddle with the SD card to infect it!! -508) <monqy> beautiful summer / fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck / fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck -509) <pikhq> I actually had a Neopets account. I later gained a second digit in my age. -510) <Taneb> So it's like... Rummy mixed with... breakout? -511) <oerjan> i try to be a hermit but it's hard with all these housemates. -512) <Taneb> Well, I'm now experimenting with clients <fizzie> It doesn't sound like good PR to say that out loud. -513) <Taneb> I combined the wholegrain breakfast and chocolatey breakfast for maximum breakfast efficiency -514) <fungot> fizzie: i, myself, will bring an end to all. -515) <MDude> Tooth or Bear: Each turn, either take out your own tooth, or wrestle a bear. -516) <fungot> elliott: an old colonel lost, but a new brother gained. together they will ascend, each time you must be adventurin'. -517) <fungot> Phantom_Hoover: it is a hate so pure and... pumpkin seeds? -518) <Phantom_Hoover> Oh look, Dax has brought TWO glowy science sticks. <Phantom_Hoover> SHIT JUST GOT REAL -519) <Phantom_Hoover> OK, Taneb's been taken by a mood and he needs raw emeralds. <Phantom_Hoover> It's been fun knowing him. -520) <Phantom_Hoover> Taneb's been hit by melancholy. <Phantom_Hoover> He didn't have any friends, fortunatel.y -521) <Phantom_Hoover> Oh god. <Phantom_Hoover> I've become a metallurgy hipster. -522) <Phantom_Hoover> You realise the micromanagement it took to make quintopia encrust my silver throne with emeralds rather than a jug? -523) <NihilistDandy> Having only been Catholic in the sense of being baptized that way, I still really like all their silly arcana <NihilistDandy> Judaism has them beat, of course <NihilistDandy> I almost converted just so I could look at my roommate's books -524) <ais523> it's probably the same people who were trying to organise gangs of shoplifters as some sort of complex protest against the government's economic policy -525) <fizzie> I suck at the gravitron, I have survived something like 15 seconds in it at most. -526) <itidus20> what i mean by afk is <itidus20> i can see how dumb it is.. ill make a coffe instead -527) <itidus20> anyway, notational systems are a function of the euclidean plane -528) <ais523> oerjan: I'm not imaginative enough to write truly great slash fiction -529) <oerjan> sllide: @ is an OS made out of only the finest vapour -530) <Phantom_Hoover> Riots in Glasgow would probably be reported as a sudden drop in crime. -531) <monqy> the classic "souls have mass" hypothesis -532) <Phantom_Hoover> What is it with Cardassians, they're all really nice and then they hit you with a rock. -533) <Patashu> it's the pain of the gaps argument <Patashu> no matter how good your robot is at feeling pain <Patashu> it's never close enough -534) <zzo38> Pythagoras was running away and he reached a field of beans, but he didn't want to step on them so he let those guys chasing him to kill him instead. -535) <elliott> What does "life" actually mean, anyway; it seems to mean "this thing that's infinitely greater than all my actual hobbies that I do all the time because I rule" -536) <itidus20> well, you have bested me <zzo38> itidus20: Yes. -537) <itidus20> now theodore seuss is dead... so screw him -538) <zzo38> What is miff-muffered moof? <itidus20> that's a tough question -539) <itidus20> software patents strike again <ais523_> that's got to be at least three times, now <ais523_> are they out yet? -540) <itidus20> like i could ask how many "petals" are there on each of the "flowers" on this coffee mug i just made a drink with <itidus20> but that would be NP hard I think -541) <itidus20> combinatronics seems to be the mathematics chasing buddha's tail <itidus20> yeah.. he was a smart monkey that buddha -542) <elliott> IM FIST IN HEAD AND DONT KNOW TO SLEEP?????? -543) <elliott> I MIGHT BECOME GHOST -544) <Phantom_Hoover> I gave her the Noblesse Oblige rooms. <Phantom_Hoover> She was happy with them even when they were behind 2 locked doors and a floodgate and full of water. -545) <Phantom_Hoover> On further reflection, I think I did manage to miss winter and spring altogether. <Phantom_Hoover> This does explain the goblin siege I had in autumn. -546) <Phantom_Hoover> A possessed soapmaker: the most ridiculous thing? <Phantom_Hoover> OH YES YOU JUST HAD TO CLAIM THE WORKSHOP I SET ASIDE FOR STRAND EXTRACTION YOU BASTARD <Phantom_Hoover> I SWEAR IF ANY OF THAT ADAMANTINE GOES MISSING YOU'RE GETTING SOME HIGH-QUALITY ROOMS -547) <ais523> (Enigma is two games; one is solving Enigma puzzles, the other is working out how to represent things as Enigma puzzles, preferably with the minimal amount of lua and player-hidden information possible) -548) <itidus20> that shit adds up. have you ever dropped a math problem in the toilet and got an answer back? yeah... it adds up -549) <elliott_> I hope in the future people curse me for creating such a shitty protocol. -550) <Taneb> Maybe if you try diplomacy. <Taneb> Pointy steel diplomacy -551) <oklopol> i started running and smoking <oklopol> i love my lungs the way they are so trying to balance them out -552) <Phantom_Hoover> I didn't realise nickel apparently can't be shaped into a screw because of some fundamental feature of dwarven physics. -553) <evincar> elliott_: I don't see a difference between a function taking a function as an argument, and some composition of those functions. -554) <monqy> this reminds me of a time where this guy made up a pretend language that was in his fantasy world and then roleplayed as someone from his fantasy world who used the language and then tried to talk to me about the language -555) <Taneb> I think it's fizzie against everyone atm <Taneb> AND EVERYONE IS WINNING <Taneb> EXCEPT FIZZIE -556) <itidus20> lets not wander around the mulberry bush beating our heads -557) <fizzie> That's the stupidest thing I've heard all morning. (Though I did wake up five minutes ago, so I haven't had a chance to hear very much.) <fizzie> The "Why are you still asleep? I told the cat to wake you up." comment does come pretty close, though. -558) <monqy> mmm these music samples are still so tasteful -559) <monqy> im sampling ultra hip holiday <monqy> hes the boogie woogie santa clause <monqy> switching to oktoberfest <monqy> yes i would love to shop to this -560) <monqy> im hungary too...but cnnot eat until hours -561) <monqy> i am out of all the fame loops <monqy> and the australien soap opera loops <monqy> so much loop / s omcuh -562) <Phantom_Hoover> The only happy dorf has a compassion stat of 0. <Phantom_Hoover> Well, 20, but it amounts to the same. -563) <Vorpal> elliott_, oh they are people known in the ruby community? <elliott_> Vorpal: Uh... you mean Hannah Montana? <Vorpal> elliott_, yeah. And Zed Shaw. Either they are that or they come from popular culture. -564) <Vorpal> ais523, how can TAEB take too long? It is turn based. As long as it isn't taking like several minutes per move it is acceptable! <ais523> Vorpal: it gets boring waiting for it -565) <fungot> elliott__: my fnord into normal life was a painful and difficult process. [...] -566) <fizzie> They're (according to current plans/rumours) going to release a grand total of approximately 1.1 MeeGo devices; the N9, plus the N950 "developers only" phone, which I'm counting as 0.1 because (even though it is a MeeGo device) it's not going to actually be released. -567) <monqy> game where you flip a coin but it's really really big -568) <NihilistDandy> Also Perl, but I don't really consider that a programming language so much as a really heavy implementatino of awk -569) <elliott> we need more films aimed at the lucrative irc nerd demographic -570) <Phantom_Hoover> I keep asking random people for "friendship <thing>" and it's crippling -571) <zzo38> I think Perl is a programming language too. [...] -572) <elliott> Deewiant: How do you go through life without seeing at least one gaping anus, that's what I want to know -573) <Sgeo> Maybe I should try to learn Scala instead of Ruby <elliott> I will boil your veins. <Sgeo> Which is less bad? <elliott> Probably Scala, but I don't want you learning languages. -574) <fizzie> I tend to debase64 with perl -MMIME::Base64 -e 'print decode_base64("...");', because at least PERL stands for "PERL ein't-no ruddy-poo lol-GNU". -575) <Phantom_Hoover> FFS, building a perpetual motion machine should not be this hard. -576) <Phantom_Hoover> Hmm, I really need to institute dwarven birth control. -577) <Phantom_Hoover> Intake flooded with magma. <Phantom_Hoover> Reactor connected. <Phantom_Hoover> Pumps active. <Phantom_Hoover> YES IT'S WORKING -578) <fizzie> "Do a sea monster while whatever." -579) <Patashu> But I mean, why fix it if it ain't broke? Except now it is -580) <Phantom_Hoover> The fact that the elves will be happy with this will hopefully be counteracted by the fact that I plan to drop them into the magma cistern. -581) <Phantom_Hoover> I'm sacrificing the animals, then I'm going to bed. -582) <Phantom_Hoover> Yeah, Bashir, just sit there drinking, rather than diagnosing the carpenter mauled in that tragic bonobo accident. -583) <CakeProphet> monqy: help how do I use lambdabot to send messages to people. [...around half an hour later...] <CakeProphet> @messages <lambdabot> quicksilver said 1y 2m 18d 19h 54m 29s ago: you use @tell -584) <oerjan> theorem prover yada yada halting problem. -585) <Vorpal> elliott, it is typical of you <elliott> Vorpal: so are most things I say -586) <elliott> well, oerjan has a lot of opinions on this, so I'll hand it over to him -587) <fungot> elliott_: it's a machine that looks like you! -588) <elliott_> now that we've cleared that up let us hug fungot = <fungot> elliott_: let's not start that again." -589) <Phantom_Hoover> You mean it'd be Tau Zero but without the spaceship? -590) <Phantom_Hoover> OK, making myself emergency doctor on the advice of IRC. -591) <elliott> help me i am so alone :( <monqy> new computer good enough to simulate real parents -592) <fungot> elliott: ppl should vote clinton because obama is biracial every1 knows that dood, look at him he has been on something lately. -593) <itidus20> indirect addressing is a facile and inebrious kind of instruction which should be whomped away by languages -594) <fungot> elliott: mr president, commissioner, i fully accept that description when it comes to human rights. yes, with an average fat content of chocolate, and we are using double standards! we all know that under present legislation and also in relation to standardization bodies. if i do not want. -595) <fizzie> Isn't "strip nomic" just another word for all dating, though? -596) <ais523> this strikes me as probably better than a singularity, because you can't trust a random AI, but you can probably trust olsner -597) <Phantom_Hoover> THERE WAS A VISIBLE SUPERNOVA AND NOBODY FUCKING TOLD ME??????????????????????????/ -598) <Phantom_Hoover> It is like the Holocaust but with Nazis. -599) <ais523> oh no, I think we've managed to mix three metaphors in a way that actually makes sense -600) <Patashu> dangit I need someone who knows the answers to my problems instantly and is always around for me! <Patashu> I need.....an adult ;_; -601) <Phantom_Hoover> We have no leather. <Phantom_Hoover> Time to use that most venerable of resources, the puppy. -602) <itidus20> according to physics and maths can we theoretically have a box with infinite cookies inside? -603) <Gregor> Phantom_Hoover: Sort of a monadic human centipede. -604) <elliott> When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a monad. -605) <monqy> one time I tried cpp programming <monqy> it was hellish <monqy> maybe I should try again -606) <fungot> CakeProphet: mr president, in the best egyptian judicial traditions has now been put off to friday. but i want my money back'. we know it generally deals with major infrastructure projects which could form part of the emergency package for korea, on christmas eve, in the interests of consumers and the environment of gmos. -607) <oklopol> king is something women are better at than men -608) <Taneb> Just goes to show, the Beatles are more interesting than green vegetables. -609) <elliott> Vorpal: who needs cars when you can walk to latvia -610) [from 2009] <fizzie> That's confusing. I have been indoctrinated to believe W|A, but on the other hand it's hard to unbelieve a book with such a ridiculously impressive name as "Handbook of physical testing of paper, Volume 2". -611) <monqy> in the past few minutes I tried remembering what my dream last night was, but instead remembered I didn't sleep -612) <itidus20> what is nice about a pebble is that you can process it with your brain as a number by simply looking at it -613) <Taneb> I think this has taught us one thing. We can't teach itidus20 lambda calculus by comittee -614) <Sgeo> Can you build the ... why wouldn't you be able to, just and all the computables -615) <shachaf> elliott: GHC bug? Come on, it's the parentheses. <shachaf> The more parentheses you add, the closer it is to LISP, and therefore the more dynamically-typed. -616) <Gregor> You know how the arrow pierces your skin, rearranging and randomizing vital internal structure? <Gregor> Monads are like that, only worse. -617) <Taneb> Mayor says we need to make aluminum items <Phantom_Hoover> Taneb, PH says you need to make lava items. -618) <elliott> Dear god stop staring at me. <monqy> no never <Phantom_Hoover> monqy is always staring at everyone. <monqy> it takes many eyes to do this but I manage <Phantom_Hoover> He is an inspiration to us all. -619) <elliott> Second Life is like... real life, modelled by people who've READ about real life, you know, in books. -620) <fizzie> One reasonable approach for the image->color case could be to take the mean (possibly in the RGB space, it doesn't have the hue discontinuity problem) of the most likely Gaussian distribution to have yielded the image pixels, considering each pixel as an independent sample. <fizzie> Wait, that'd just be the mean. Never mind. -621) <Gregor> Hulu's movie selection is like MST3K without the MST3K characters. -622) <Gregor> Let us discuss the correct procedure for converting LP -> FLAC <fizzie> The correct procedure is: you put the LP into a flatbed scanner, scan it as a Windows .bmp file, and then rename that file to .flac. -623) <tswett> Come to think of it, I've praised you a little too effusively. I'm not *that* pleased. If you'll permit me to compensate slightly... <tswett> elliott: fuck you. <tswett> There. Perfect. Carry on. -624) <myndzi> lol :( -625) <Gregor> But whereas the Zune UI makes one think "I want to kill myself", the Windows CE UI makes one think "I want to kill myself, but first kill my parents as punishment for bringing into this world someone who would one day own a Windows CE device." -626) <hagb4rd> jesus, yes.. he was human <hagb4rd> and that is fantastic <hagb4rd> more than beeing able to speak with fish.. like seaman does -627) <Phantom_Hoover> I mean, any organisation called the Scottish Defence League should be beating up English people, what other point would there be? -628) <oerjan> yes 5 is very infixr -629) <ais523> if all my Facebook friends were to visit a page, it wouldn't make any difference at all -630) <ais523> it's definitely not a statistical fluctuation, they repeated the experiment 15 thousand times to make sure -631) <elliott> The moon is a much better target for colonisation because it would be IRCable. -632) <Phantom_Hoover> OMG <Phantom_Hoover> What if <Phantom_Hoover> we shoot Hitler with neutrinos -633) <Phantom_Hoover> It's like Pygmalion and Galatea but more weeaboo. <Phantom_Hoover> Also lesbian. -634) <monqy> i agree with elliott -635) <monqy> did you know: gravity was inspired by apples -636) <ais523> isn't a neutrino detector just a large vat of washing-up liquid with a bit of machinery attached? -637) <fungot> fizzie: it doesn't *use* raw cgi. to my deep fnord i'm only fnord of the job description. it's badly fnord also. -638) <fizzie> It's just electricity, how dangerous could it be? -639) <fungot> sadhu: it's been said that boole is the crowning jewel perched precariously upon the perfect peak of programmer prowess, casting its limitless limpid light over the loathesome lands of those who scuff and wallow in the dreary dust of digital depravity and unbounded wilful ignorance of the testament of our lord jesus christ into your life. -640) <ais523> elliott: so what are the two issues with xfce? <elliott> they're very unlikely to fuck up Xfce, and it can be made to work basically exactly like gnome two -641) <Phantom_Hoover> Guys no don't fly a Jem Hadar ship into Cardassian space to shoot things I played that mission in FreeSpace and it never works. -642) <itidus20> my old 2d game is named either runch or turbo fight.... and its hard -643) <fizzie> I prefer the N64 controller, it's the only one that has place for my third hand. -644) <zzo38> The fighting game I prefer is the card game Yomi -645) <oerjan> i am sorry to disappoint you, but my musical taste is on the side abba, verdi, and celine dion. i know this may not be popular and that you would have preferred me to be a satanist. -646) <Ngevd> Dammit, Gregor, this is not the time to fall in love -647) <oklopol> but i guess (x + y)^n = (x^2 + 2xy + y^2)(x^2 + 2xy + y^2)...(x^2 + 2xy + y^2) if n is even, (x + y)^n = (x^2 + 2xy + y^2)(x^2 + 2xy + y^2)...(x^2 + 2xy + y^2)(x + y) is as good a fundamental theorem as any -648) <oklopol> so you are doing for compilers what imperative programming did for functional programming -649) <fizzie> Spacegoat is the network-operations-optimized-for-latency-of-minutes-or-hours-due-to-light-speed-limits variant of scapegoat, to be used when you need to check out some code from the Mars colony. <fizzie> (I'm pretty sure we'll have established a Mars colony by the time scapegoat rolls out.) -650) <fizzie> [...] It's like the future was already here (in all its headache-inducing flickery glory) in the mid-1990s, and then it just... went away. -651) <fizzie dictionary> An 'ad hobbitem' fallacy is when you try to undermine someone's credibility by referring to how hairy his/her feets are. -652) [in the context of Open University] <Ngevd> "Unlike other operating systems, Linux operating systems use Linux" -653) <CakeProphet> l;le;ler;le;lr;e;ler;ler;le;lerr;le;le;erle;e;rler;lere;er;lerrelrrerererlanggt -654) <monqy> never ever do bacon floats or i will hunt you down and kill you augh my leg -655) <fungot> Ngevd:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov -656) <Gregor> When my registrar is emailing me that codu.xxx is available, that's a problem. -657) <Phantom__Hoover> Also you steal Berwick from us and then say you don't want it? <Ngevd> You stole it from us first! -658) <monqy> bad people have feelings too <monqy> but they're bad <monqy> so it's okay -659) <fizzie> It's a bit like a regular monowheel, except when you brake too hard, instead of you going around and around inside the wheel, the (1100lb) wheel rolls over you. -660) <shachaf> Real Tar is GNU tar. <shachaf> You just ignore whichever features don't make you feel superior enough. -661) <oerjan> <Patashu> But wait what if I'm using a quantum computer <-- there is "quantum entropy". it's the same except no one understands it. -662) <Patashu> that's trippy. how does such a thing evolve? what biological niche is it filling? we need to film a mockumentary on this -663) <elliott> fizzie: It's like a JIT, if JITs were... strings. -664) (Of Minecraft:) <elliott> So basically I didn't understand what it was at all, I thought maybe you were meant to be like a worm and just sort of wriggle about underground. -665) <Phantom_Hoover> oh god oh god <Phantom_Hoover> what if I become <Phantom_Hoover> attracted <Phantom_Hoover> to birds -666) <Ngevd> "Facekicker" Hird is a member of the Hird family <Phantom_Hoover> Ngevd, world-renowned detective. -667) <HackEgo> 678) <Ngevd> Dammit, Gregor, this is not the time to fall in love <HackEgo> 187) <alise> Gregor: You should never have got her pregnant. <Gregor> what whaaaaaaaaaaaat -668) <elliott> ais523: those suck <elliott> hmm, those are all pretty good -669) <fizzie> It's missing the "bear scat showing a diet of prime numbers" picture. -670) <Phantom_Hoover> You know what annoys me about Deep Space 9. <Phantom_Hoover> It wasn't in deep space. <Phantom_Hoover> It was orbiting Bajor. -671) <fizzie> If you jump a car from a ramp and hit the wall of a building, in midair, you tend to get ejected up and fly to the sky-ceiling, then slowly slide at that height to one corner of the world; then you land, make a complicated spinning-around thing for a while, and then explode. <fizzie> Also probably works in real life? -672) <Phantom_Hoover> I think the worst part of growing up is that it isn't retroactive. -673) <Phantom_Hoover> http://i.imgur.com/dosYw.png <Phantom_Hoover> WELCOME TO FUCKING STEELROMANCED -674) <coppro> clearly darth needs something gray and big and proving the uncountability of the reals -675) <Pavitra> That was me being *nice*. I could have made the request by word of mouth to my My Little Pony toys and it would count. -676) <yrlnry> I personally use while ("Cogito, ergo sum") { ... } because since that is a priori true, it is true in all possible universes, and therefore ensures maximum portability. -677) <ais523> it's not a list of /all/ interesting esolangs, btw; otherwise you can take the first command from the first esolang, the second from the second, the third from the third, etc, then add 1 to all of them <ais523> and you get a new interesting esolang <ais523> diagonal principle… -678) <oklopol> i did applied fisheries research when i was little <oklopol> got some results too but i ate them before i could publish them -679) <oklopol> that's crazy, it almost seems like you have to tell the program how you want it to manipulate the data and not just give it the relevant commands in a random sequence -680) <kmc> COCKS [...] <kmc> truly cocks -681) <elliott> Magnetic butterfly is slower than cat and restarting if you make a mistake is slower than vi is slower than mind-reading. -682) <monqy> where is this going. why is this going. -683) <Vorpal> anyway fungot is the only esolang irc bot I know of that doesn't depend on nethack or a similar helper -684) <fungot> fizzie: these kids today, with their long hair, dope, and silly abbreviations...) and how it works. -685) <Phantom_Hoover> I'd insult you behind your back, but I don't care which side of your back I insult you on. -686) <zzo38> I am just saying something that I think I once saw some idea somewhere, I forget, was it on television? -687) <zzo38> Can you file for univorce if you are unmarried and don't like yourself anymore? -688) <Ngevd> I'm neither Norwegian nor Finnish <Ngevd> I don't fit in your quaint little categories -689) <ais523\unfoog> Vorpal: your ability to randomly make obvious comments in IRC as if they were profound is not a particularly useful one -690) <Phantom_Hoover> Life expectancy now is a function of whether you go berserk or not. -691) <Ngevd> Somehow I managed to read Haskell as Befunge -692) <Sgeo|web> ...Overlapping? -693) <ais523> Vorpal: I was paying too much attention to elliott and not enough to my HP -694) <oerjan> elliott: it occurs to me that `? welcome is atypical: its information is actually true. -695) <Vorpal> oh my god <Vorpal> that is one ugly solution <elliott> beautiful -696) <ais523> Just about all females often feel that exactly why all Hollywood stars common maintain its brightness as Tom in spite of frantic operate routine and large operate pressure from the skin. What do you think that they have got sufficient time to observe all attractiveness strategies and tips that his grandmother utilized to abide by? -697) <Phantom__Hoover> (I'm not really sure what that explains but nor am I sure what I'm explaining, so it cancels out.) -698) <shachaf> VMS Mosaic? <shachaf> I hope that's not Mosaic ported to VMS. <shachaf> Hmm. It's Mosaic ported to VMS. -699) <fungot> elliott: young john soon afterward receives as a visitor a fnord spaniard, fnord de moncada, who has escaped from fnord fnord dissolved in the absolute. -700) <Phantom_Hoover> No you can't fight crime in Glasgow. <Phantom_Hoover> It's like trying to get rid of the space-time continuum. -701) <Ngevd> It's like single player Hackiki in a way(?) <tswett> Ngevd: yes, but with multiple players. -702) <twice11> Yeah, statistics with 2 data points is science. Statistics with one data point is crap. <twice11> You measure a third point if you need an error estimate. -703) <Darth_Cliche> There's British KFC? Kent Fried Chicken? -704) <Vorpal> elliott: well how will you represent "The dog jumped over the lazy dog" then? -705) <Phantom__Hoover> elliott, cars aren't perfectly spherical. -706) <Phantom__Hoover> Minecraft has made me view all trees as ridiculously slender. -707) <ais523> also, why isn't monqy from Hexham? his name sounds like he should be -708) * Sgeo|web wants to see elliott be wrong about something <elliott> Sgeo|web: That literally never happens. <shachaf> Sgeo|web: There you go. A great example. -709) <QuickDirtyOS> Linux is like the most quirky of all Forths, it has its own OS -710) <elliott> ais523: You might want to downgrade to a sock to be safe -711) <elliott> ais523: I pronounce "xor" by punching myself in the face and then "or" -712) <shachaf> `quote themselves <HackEgo> No output. <shachaf> `quote norway <HackEgo> No output. <shachaf> `quote lunch <HackEgo> No output. <shachaf> Useless bot. -713) <ais523> the parser would be even simpler if I didn't try to do type inference in it -714) <shachaf> You should get kmc in this channel. kmc has good quotes. <shachaf> `quote kmc <HackEgo> 686) <kmc> COCKS [...] <kmc> truly cocks <shachaf> Well, in theory. -715) <olsner> characters in tv series should learn to check the timestamp before they get their hopes up... *no chance* this will work at 10 minutes into the episode -716) <CakeProphet> but yeah the caliphates expanded their empire by conquering people and then forcing them to either convert to Islam or die. [...] <oerjan> i thought it was sort of, convert to islam or pay extra taxes, but i guess it varied a lot. -717) * oerjan concludes that unsafeCoerce has no effect on strictness -718) <fungot> Ngevd: again in a fresh memo later be sent you a copy of knitting for assholes -719) <Phantom_Hoover> The reason the cute animals collection includes pictures of intestines is that cute animals have to have intestines. -720) <Sgeo> I guess only gay people fuck? -721) <oklopol> also who it a tome, a small one -722) <oerjan> shachaf: wait, _you_ are in northumberland? <shachaf> No. <oerjan> whew <oerjan> we don't have room for more esolangers there. <shachaf> oerjan: Wait, *you* are in Northumberland? <oerjan> no <shachaf> Whew. <shachaf> We don't have room for more esolangers there. -723) <fizzie> Do you want me to live dangerously and just stick it in the bot without testing it? <elliott> fizzie: Yes. <elliott> There is pretty much no way it won't be amazing. -724) <oklopol> the point of a university is research and training new researchers. the point of the world is to enable this. -725) <copumpkin> it's not even about strictness actually <copumpkin> not strictly about strictness, anyway -726) <CakeProphet> I like category theory because when you get over how damn weird it is it's still weird. -727) <ais523\unfoog> Phantom__Hoover: is the processor hot? <ais523\unfoog> also, does it smell of burnt silicon? [...] <ais523\unfoog> you can figure out if the processor is hot by touching it -728) <oerjan> wolfram armageddon, the genius overlord game -729) <Ngevd> This is not the time for science! <Phantom_Hoover> ALL TIMES ARE TIME FOR SCIENCE -730) <monqy> i cnat eve begin to understand what you meant with that "one" -731) <itidus22> if the halting problem was solved, as a placebo.. would it benefit people? -732) <elliott>.Ah. -733) <oklopol> i don't lie, i tell stories <oklopol> there's no difference <oklopol> *a -734) <itidus21> myndzi\: ok so one of the nastiest puzzles i suppose is... you're on death row.. you don't want to die. -735) <Ngevd> BOXBOT IS TERRIBLE <Ngevd> NOBODY LIKES BOXBOT <Ngevd> He's just a box with arms <monqy> i love boxbot already -736) <kallisti> interestingly enough it takes about as much time for a person to produce cfunge as it does to create a baby. -737) <elliott> right: you didn't find out you were wrong, just right in a way we failed to consider. <elliott> if only every wrong person could be so lucky -738) <Phantom_Hoover> Dinner? At two? <fizzie> It's four here already. See, UTC+2. You need to add a couple of hours. Or was that subtract? I can never get those straight. -739) <kallisti> man, I love pseudo-random decision making <Gregor> kallisti: Man, I base most of my life on pseudo-random decision making. <oklopol> i usually just ask my dick and i then rarely even bother to listen -740) <oerjan> well, i have to assume if i'm going to make any asses -741) <itidus20> if only alonzo church would have anticipated the computer terminal... <zzo38> itidus20: What do you think it would be if he did so? <itidus20> i just plucked his name at random [...] <oerjan> if only the marquis de sade would have anticipated hospital romance novels -742) <oklopol> why not just give the gays their own state so people could finally pray in peace -743) <fungot> fizzie: is a 98% reduction in the waterpark intensity, right, so i'd imagine! -744) <zzo38> Astrological ages don't work. Instead, say what you mean. -745) <Gregor> pikhq: And of course Rick Perry, saying that there's something wrong with a country where gays can serve in the military but we don't elect a douchebag as president. -746) <zzo38> The book "Science Made Stupid" ends with a list of things that might happen in the future (some already have), one of them is a woman president. Some things in the list are reasonable but a few are just funny instead. -747) <elliott> monqy: it's only... ascii porn... the unicode bits stay covered -748) <Phantom__Hoover> WTF is it with people with Irish names and logic? -749) <Phantom_Hoover> The only way you could do better would be to implement Monopoly with chocolate. -750) <Phantom_Hoover> Just because you can't design a reliable Monopoly machine out of chocolate doesn't mean nobody else can. -751) <Phantom_Hoover> Phantom_Hoover OF YOURE. <Phantom_Hoover> Oops. -752) <Phantom_Hoover> Here in Scotland we have a rigorous and well-tested theory of brothels. -753) <elliott> I'm not biased towards humanity over sentient .txt files. -754) <tswett> Hey, I found Gregor on Spokeo. He's a married black male in his late 50s who lives in an apartment worth about $37,000. He did not go to college and works in sales. <tswett> He lives in Detroit. <tswett> I... think we might have found the wrong one. -755) <MDude> A quick look as WIikipedia ways that Wicca is a specific form of paganism related to witchcraft. <MDude> That agrees with what I know from that Scoobie Doo movie with the wiccans in it. -756) <Gregor> elliott: Back in my day, I didn't have to walk with a cane, but I couldn't shake it at kids on my lawn either! -757) <coppro> ... goddamit I'm having a discussion about the literary qualities of a Pokemon game -758) <Phantom_Hoover> (I vehemently oppose the SNP because they want closer ties with Sweden.) -759) <oklopol> in one case, someone is hurting themselves, in the other, they are only hurting (all) norwegians (to death) -760) <zzo38> I have a program to tell you how far away Jupiter is. It is 4.33 units far. -761) <elliott> I hate you. -762) <zzo38> Even the Spanish Inquisition is in this game. <ais523> zzo38: was it unexpected? <zzo38> Kind of... -763) <shachaf> fizzie: What kind of speech recognition do you do? <shachaf> If you only need to recognize famous speeches, like Churchill or something, it should be pretty easy. -764) <Phantom_Hoover> Incest, the enemy of graph theorists everywhere. -765) <oklopol> i think i'll just take the usual route and go do post doc research somewhere far away and never come back and become a drug lord and kill myself -766) <zzo38> When you die in Canada, you die in real life. -767) <oerjan> DeadlyFugu: the kind of aids you get in a mountain cottage -768) <ais523> is there any evidence that Jesus knew the rules of tic-tac-toe? -769) [...] <fizzie> So if someone tells you "you're worth your weight in Ethernet", it's likely they think your worth is less than $2k. -770) <ais523> `delquote 419 * HackEgo has quit (Remote host closed the connection) * EgoBot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) * glogbot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) -771) <fungot> [...] we choose only die fittest people of nigeria [...] -772) <fungot> fizzie: it's just so stupid that ' stty erase h' has more bizarre results. it was, that he was overcome with the vastness, profundity, and fnord -773) <fizzie> [...] "paikankin päällä" sounds just fine -774) <fizzie> oerjan: Hey, what's your country code for telephonistic dialling from the outside world? <oerjan> fizzie: +47 <fizzie> oerjan: Ooh, you're, like, right next to Sweden there. <fizzie> I... guess you are geographically, too. -775) Note that the previous quote is, in fact, correctly spaced. -776) <NihilistDandy> Benchmarks are only a good measure of surprise -777) <zzo38> Yes, it is true; I don't really like PHP either. -778) <monqy> kallisti: by ordered multiset did you mean: list?????? -779) <Phantom_Hoover> I had a dream last night where I got hit by a van but the van had a brain uploader in it and I was uploaded and I angsted because I was stuck spending eternity with singularitarians? -780) <oerjan> fizzie: wait the germans burned lapland? they also burned finnmark. <fizzie> oerjan: It's a bit of what they do. This was the time when we no longer were such good friends any more, and told them to go away. -781) <Phantom_Hoover> oh jesus my mother is trying to ship bear grylls with miranda hart aerio;jghaeirugha -782) <Phantom_Hoover> "Category 4 ("professional") fireworks are for sale only to fireworks professionals. They have no restrictions," <Phantom_Hoover> OK I need to become a pyrotechnician. <ais523> Phantom_Hoover: that's like wanting to become a locksmith <ais523> so that you can legally own lockpicks <Phantom_Hoover> Did I mention when I wanted to become a locksmith? -783) <Vorpal> <ais523> northern ireland is quite a way to drag someone from scotland <-- not really. I just checked in google earth <ais523> Vorpal: but dragging people across water's a bit tricky -784) <oklopol> speaking of math, i watched an episode of numb3rs today <oklopol> the first episode was more like 57471571c5 -785) <olsner> I think I know less about rhotic accents now than I have ever known before -786) <ais523> oh right: Frooxius, you wouldn't happen to live in Hexham, would you? <Frooxius> No, sorry. <ais523> phew <Ngevd> How about Finland? <Frooxius> Why would I live there? <fizzie> That's a *very* good question. <fizzie> Why would anyone? -787) <fungot> elliott: but, there are imps around, the pad. it's hard to remember though your cross-hairs would never settle on an innocent little girl. chokes up now imagine she's white. -788) <Phantom_Hoover> There.... is a box of Gardasil next to the butter in my fridge. <Phantom_Hoover> At least my sandwich will be immune to cervical cancer *and* genital warts, I suppose. -789) <fungot> elliott: to be honest, it doesn't exist in a state of almost perpetual stalemate, and expands to a larger board and more exotic collection of what he refers to as a thermal hull, instead of some kind of clock pun. no, dammit, will this breakfast injure his shrill, bearded, scraggly old men in space. jade's radioactive, omnipotent, space-warping dog named... -790) <itidus21> the possession of diamonds by the bourgeois is more about establishing their bourgeoisness more than wanting a malleable metal <itidus21> oops i forgot i said diamonds instead of gold -791) * Phantom_Hoover moves 0.5 Phantom_Hoover into the Atlantic, and captures fizzie's upper body with 0.5 Phantom_Hoover. <fizzie> Glurk. -792) <shachaf> elliott: Anyway, if you wrote a Haskell book, I would read it and possibly provide classical criticism. <shachaf> That is to say, non-constructive. -793) <fizzie> Two gigabytes is not really much to download. <Gregor> THAT'S LIKE THREE EPISODES OF MY LITTLE PONY -794) <fizzie> [...] and then you just shuffle the integral signs around a bit and hope no mathematicians notice. -795) <kmc> damn i should make a quasiquoter for inline FORTRAN -796) <roper> ioihgfdddf -797) <roper> rephtrase -798) <fizzie> I saw a MythBusters show about that. (Or I guess it maybe was a tree.) -799) <elliott> @more <elliott> @more <elliott> @more <elliott> @more <elliott> @more <elliott> @more <elliott> @more <elliott> :( -800) <kmc> has there been any work towards designing programming languages specifically for stoned people -801) <fizzie> Stupid W|A doesn't even understand "Vatican papal density". (As far as countries go, they've got a quite high one.) -802) <fizzie> Quinary computers replace the cache with a quiche. -803) <itidus21> ok in other words, its a lot easier to reason about 2^43112609-1 apples by using the text "2^43112609-1" than it is to actually produce 2^43112609-1 apples -804) <fizzie> fungot: Yeah, "fungott" would [...] remind people of elliott. <fungot> fizzie: now that could be nice for a simple language can be used -805) <Phantom_Hoover> BF derivatives are a cancer running throughout the fringes of the esolang community, and as the fringes vastly outweigh the core, we're screwed. -806) <olsner> the allocation is done by the "Dynamic" in DRAM <olsner> before that we used SRAM where everything was preallocated in the factory <fizzie> olsner: So what's this SDRAM then? <olsner> fizzie: synchronized, it's for multithreading -807) <olsner> what a world it would be if you could actually *steal* code so that the other project has to rewrite it or infiltrate your project to steal it back -808) <Taneb> I swear my dreams are becoming increasingly rave + computer science oriented -809) <elliott> aaaaah my scherzo is unmeasurable -810) <elliott> oops I accidentally deleted the universe <olsner> looks weird when you put a verb after accidentally like that -811) <fizzie> elliott: I'm not going to even bother with the recursive "I'm not going to dignify that" stuff. [...] <fizzie> *LAA LAA LAA NOT DIGNIFYING LAA LAA* -812) <fizzie> fungot: Feeling scrambled after all that? <fungot> fizzie: but it's much like new zealand, in my stone-age country, we still like you even if you're only using the new fnord -813) <fungot> elliott_: how usable is borges in the real world -814) <itidus21> to think that i could accidently catch the bus with the person who wrote "###b#ott#les#of#b#eer o#n t#he #w#all#, ###lovely ###[[Esme]]ralda ###o#n ###t#h#e #b#ee#r..." -815) <fungot> elliott: the new fnord <fungot> elliott: what is the point? nothing changed. -816) <shachaf> Lent is a bad habit that people find very difficult to give up. -817) <Sgeo> "Sgeo: how refreshing to see you talk about something other than whatever the heck homestuck is" -818) <ais523> bleh, why doesn't tab-complete work in mkdir for the name of the new directory -819) <Sgeo_> Why does CL get called functional? <oerjan> it's sort of like how you call ancient greece democratic. -820) <fungot> Phantom_Hoover: gsi-ffs.scm just has a tendency to give procedures meaningful, spelled out, names, unlike " fnord)" -821) <oklofok> you tell us you're making a lisp interpreter, but you don't mention its polterchrist is c++ templates? <oklofok> isn't that like telling us you're taking a bath and not mentioning you're bathing in a WORLD FULL OF SNAKES -822) <zzo38> I think we are sort of this insane, and also sort of not as much as insane, and also sort of a bit more insane than that, and also somewhat more various other thing at various times whatever you are discussing at that time -823) <fungot> elliott: fibonacci heaps, trinomial heaps, fat heaps, thin heaps, fat heaps, thin heaps, fat heaps, relaxed heaps, and maybe even specifically optimized by the implementation -824) <elliott> then they edited their own talk page comments after someone replied to it, and edited /the replier's comment/ so that it made sense in context
--- a/paste/paste.18552 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,301 +0,0 @@ -2003-09-08.txt:13:17:43: <Verbed> ~awaken The Russian Federation is by far the largest country of the world in area by spanning 11 time zones in both Europe and Asia. Russia shares borders with the following countries (starting in the north and in counter-clockwise order): Norway, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Belarus, Lithuania (via Kaliningrad Oblast), Poland (idem), Ukraine, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, China, Mongolia and North Korea. -2004-02-28.txt:22:58:35: <fizzie> re our topic, it's st. tib's day at least in our timezone. -2004-05-25.txt:07:31:44: <fizzie> I'm desperately trying to get out of bed to get to work. different timezones maybe. -2004-05-25.txt:07:33:07: <freakabcd> ofcourse different timezones fizzie -2004-05-30.txt:21:22:19: <Toreun> what, is it 2320 there? I don't know what timezone it's in -2004-05-30.txt:22:40:32: <fizzie> oh! it's 5th of confusion, 3170, today, at least according to my timezone already. celebrate (or don't) syaday. -2005-02-05.txt:23:18:44: <Keymaker> have fun rest-of-time-of-the-day-on-your-time-zone :) -2005-03-17.txt:19:24:15: <{^Raven^}> i sleep, but I have a different timezone every day -2005-05-06.txt:19:08:02: <GregorR> Err, this evening in my timezone... -2005-05-06.txt:23:36:35: <GregorR> Damn time zones :-P -2005-05-07.txt:20:08:39: <GregorR> Hey, you're in my timezone 8-D -2005-05-12.txt:06:23:07: <GregorR-L> Ah yes, the miracle of time zones. -2005-05-12.txt:06:23:41: <Keymaker> where would be different timezones -2005-05-12.txt:06:24:45: <Keymaker> involving annoying time zones -2005-05-13.txt:14:05:25: <GregorR> You and your time zones. -2005-05-13.txt:14:06:22: <Keymaker> and we are on same time zone! -2005-05-14.txt:00:01:52: <GregorR> So I'll send the index files to you at about 4:30AM (your time zone) - will you be up? ;) -2005-05-14.txt:07:14:12: <GregorR-L> You're in yet another time zone from everybody else X-D -2005-05-22.txt:03:01:03: <pgimeno> I'm going to sleep as well (I'm on the same time zone as kipple) -2005-05-28.txt:10:28:05: <pgimeno> who was that who invented time zones? -2005-06-06.txt:11:27:18: <puzzlet> evening? familiar timezone :) -2005-06-17.txt:23:04:06: <pgimeno> http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/eu/cet.html -2005-07-18.txt:14:01:25: <GregorR> Good morning, people-who-are-not-in-my-time-zone-and-hence-it-is-not-morning-to. -2005-07-19.txt:16:41:41: * yrz canzone che parla di una betoniera -2005-07-27.txt:23:33:10: <fizzie> You must have a weird time-zone. (Or a weird meeting -- perhaps your local satan-worshipping cult ritual thing?) It's 01:30am here. -2005-07-27.txt:23:33:51: <graue> since when are time zones "weird"? -2005-07-27.txt:23:34:13: <fizzie> Obviously some time-zones are more weirdidic than others. -2005-08-09.txt:23:39:26: <jix> hmm my dict says fringe == rand(gebiet) which is something like border (zone) -2005-08-22.txt:17:52:32: <jix> your clock is 2 minutes in front of mine.. (and a few time zones but that doesn't affect minutes) -2005-09-25.txt:21:28:49: <kipple> t know what timezone you're in... -2005-10-04.txt:17:07:34: <nooga> i hate timezones -2005-10-04.txt:17:09:34: <Gs30ng> no timezone -2005-10-04.txt:17:09:56: <jix> 2-dimensional earth has timezones (if you reduce the speed of light) -2005-10-04.txt:17:11:25: <nooga> and differences between that timezones are in microseconds ;p -2005-10-04.txt:17:12:36: <jix> you have a timezone every 1m -2005-10-04.txt:17:14:08: <jix> 18:09:34 <jix> 2-dimensional earth has timezones >>>(if you reduce the speed of light)<<< -2005-10-04.txt:17:14:38: <jix> that's the reason discworld has timezones -2005-10-04.txt:17:16:11: <nooga> but we *DONT* want to have timezones! -2005-10-04.txt:17:17:32: <jix> what do you think about timezones? -2005-10-04.txt:17:17:58: <WildHalcyon> I think timezones are pathetically artificial constructions and should be done away with entirely -2005-10-04.txt:17:18:14: <jix> speed of light of 1m/h and a flat world => timezones every 1m :( -2005-10-04.txt:17:38:19: <GregorR> WildHalcyon: I don't like your timezone idea :P -2005-10-04.txt:17:39:12: <GregorR> If I'm in Portland and I have a friend in Bend, and we want to meet at 1:30, and it's an hour to get there, I should be able to leave at 12:30, not 12:00 - making all clocks synced by location just makes infinite many very complicated timezones. -2005-10-04.txt:17:40:35: <WildHalcyon> Well, that's why you agree to meet at 1:30 bend time. Just because its an hour drive doesn't mean its an hour timezone difference -2005-10-04.txt:17:41:41: <GregorR> Bend is (south)east of here, timezone wise it's probably a half hour away, so I would have to leave a half hour before an hour before we're supposed to meet in Bend time - we have to agree on /some/ time to meet! -2005-10-04.txt:17:42:22: <GregorR> Again, magically fast car, it's more like three hours away and probably not 30 minutes timezone wise XD -2005-10-04.txt:17:43:17: <jix> afaik before timezones were invented people used local time and it was chaos with trains etc... that's why there are timezones -2005-10-19.txt:21:09:00: <jix> wildhalcyon: timezones.... -2005-10-28.txt:02:52:33: <fizzie> (It's ~05 am in this time-zone, so I'll probably be asleep soon.) -2005-10-30.txt:01:15:22: <GregorR> jix: Trouble with timezones? :P -2005-11-05.txt:05:52:42: <duerig> It messes me up that they are in a completely different timezone than I am. :) -2005-11-08.txt:00:48:21: <Aardwolf> I don't think it makes sense to convert mycelum to text based, because it's completely defined with modulo divisions of color channel values, and piet would be even harder, because of the different shapes that color zones can have -2005-11-17.txt:22:40:36: <GregorR> And how do you adjust for timezone in C? >_O -2006-02-20.txt:08:27:23: <GregorR> And now, to prove incompatible timezones, I'll go to sleep X-P -2006-06-05.txt:02:09:55: <SimonRC> in my timezone, too -2006-06-05.txt:17:30:11: <GregorR-W> Yay timezones :) -2006-06-05.txt:17:34:45: <sedimin> Timezones truly rule -2006-06-07.txt:20:16:44: <kipple> not in my timezone... -2006-07-09.txt:04:02:34: <AndrewNP> Morning? What time zone are you in? -2006-07-25.txt:21:18:48: <GregorR-W> Damn timezones :P -2006-08-05.txt:05:03:57: <RodgerTheGreat> "In a moment, pikhq is going to step into another dimension. A dimension not only of sight and sound, but of the mind. There's a signpost up ahead- he has entered... The Dimensifuck Zone..." -2006-08-10.txt:11:40:55: <fizzie> "My time zone seems to be different by a minute." -2006-08-10.txt:12:06:42: <asiekierka> so your timezone is different by HOUR+MINUTE. -2006-08-11.txt:02:44:32: <CakeProphet> Not as easy as Python. Yes that's right... I'm staying in my comfort zone... like any lazy person. -2006-08-23.txt:00:43:49: <CakeProphet> Meh.. maybe I just can't get out of my comfort zone... oh well... at least I'm comfortable. -2006-10-07.txt:21:23:44: <RodgerTheGreat> http://www.freebookzone.com/others/itoa.h ? -2006-10-14.txt:21:57:23: <Razor-X> What timezone are you in? -2006-10-23.txt:01:10:37: <jix> i allways fuck up times between time zones :| -2006-10-23.txt:19:12:10: <jix> time zone? -2006-10-29.txt:01:45:21: <oerjan> what about britain and finland? they don't have the same timezone but maybe they still change at the same time -2006-11-21.txt:16:33:40: <RodgerTheGreat> although, in my timezone, it's still technically morning. -2006-12-08.txt:01:22:22: <tokigun> i have to sleep now... have a nice day (or night, depending on your timezone) :) -2006-12-21.txt:14:59:19: <Asztal> you never know with timezones -2007-01-08.txt:01:07:24: <fizzie> The "gmtime" name quite likely comes from "GMT", since there's also "localtime" which returns a struct tm with the numbers in the local time zone. -2007-03-26.txt:03:47:32: <Figs> quick! what time zone does my computer think it's in? ;) -2007-03-26.txt:03:51:53: <oklopol> nope, and that's the wrong time zone -2007-03-26.txt:03:58:09: <Figs> I haven't memorized what countries are in which time zones -2007-03-26.txt:04:00:15: <Figs> I think that's a different time zone -2007-03-31.txt:18:27:23: <ais523> (or I suppose today in some timezones) -2007-04-06.txt:22:52:38: <ihope> It also damages the ozone layer! -2007-04-08.txt:05:02:26: <Sukoshi> MENTALLY CHALLENGED PEOPLE NOT ABLE TO COMPREHEND TIMEZONE!!! -2007-04-08.txt:05:03:07: <SevenInchBread> ....I say we get rid of timezone... they were only good back when we had trains and because people liked there clocks to look the same in different parts of the world. -2007-05-23.txt:15:30:39: * ais523 is in the wrong timezone to log on to IRC at a time they have access to a computer and come across a conversation -2007-06-04.txt:06:38:24: <fizzie> 08:36 in this time zone. -2007-06-14.txt:20:08:49: <ihope> # is the constructor exclusion zone. The constructor may not change these cells unless otherwise specified. -2007-06-14.txt:20:10:09: <ihope> $ is the pattern exclusion zone. The constructor may assume that these cells are... hmm, just a minute. -2007-07-01.txt:22:57:48: <ihope> Now, in my time zone. -2007-07-01.txt:22:57:54: <ihope> (My time zone. You can't have it.) -2007-07-01.txt:22:58:51: <RodgerTheGreat> the page on time zones? -2007-07-17.txt:06:26:51: <immibis> probably restarts every midnight in its own timezone -2007-07-18.txt:06:10:16: <immibis> oh right the timezone difference -2007-07-19.txt:21:55:52: <ehird`> the internet will be a minezone for the next few weeks -2007-07-23.txt:03:30:49: <oklopol> if i guess your time zone right -2007-08-06.txt:17:28:41: <SimonRC> Oddly, a few days ago I was dreaming and I was changin stuff by concentrating (like that kid out of the Twilight Zone), but I didn't realise I was dreaming. -2007-08-14.txt:07:09:15: <Figs> I just wasn't sure what time zone you were in -2007-08-19.txt:23:42:18: <oklokok> hmm... if someone is fluent at their client's scripting langs, please tell me what time zone all these ppl are on -2007-08-23.txt:11:03:38: <Figs> anyone know what time zone RodgerTheGreat is in? -2007-10-04.txt:00:51:46: <oerjan> he is in a different timezone you know. -2007-10-25.txt:15:52:23: <ais523> pity I'm in the wrong timezone to have been in either of the conversations about it -2007-12-12.txt:00:15:19: <GregorR> 12:49 in the logger's timezone, whenever the bork that is. -2007-12-21.txt:20:06:24: * oerjan must have greatly misremembered the time zone of germany -2007-12-28.txt:06:17:59: <pikhq> Time zone. -2007-12-28.txt:06:18:59: <bsmntbombdood> we are time zone buddies! -2008-01-19.txt:22:00:23: <oerjan> maybe it's a time zone issue. before dusk, they're disks, unless on a desk -2008-01-22.txt:23:03:24: <ehird> oerjan: is this the no-soliciting-opinions zone? :-) -2008-02-06.txt:07:29:53: <immibis[A]> bbt (be back tomorrow) tiimtza (that is in my time zone anyway) -2008-02-10.txt:18:37:10: <ehird`> http://esolangs.org/wiki/Ozone is this turing complete even with finite stacks? -2008-02-17.txt:04:02:05: <puzzlet> maybe it's the timezone -2008-03-07.txt:20:26:08: <ehird> rochest.er (lame delegation - delegated servers have no such zone) -2008-03-16.txt:02:38:47: <Sgeo> The US Government uses ZoneEdit? -2008-03-22.txt:01:27:55: <oklofok> but i'm not proud i know what "president" means, politics are my no-touch zone -2008-03-31.txt:20:36:32: <olsner> oklopol: check the date of today or tomorrow (depending on time zone) -2008-04-05.txt:17:21:01: <ais523> this also means that they're more or less completely safe to humans and other objects, but catalyse the destruction of the ozone layer -2008-04-05.txt:17:21:03: <oklopol> cfc's are the things destroying like the ozone layer and making a greenhouse out of our planet KILLING EVERYONE, like, or something? -2008-04-05.txt:17:22:00: <ais523> oklopol: CFCs are almost the perfect inert gas for many purposes, except for the destroying-the-ozone-layer problem. That's why they caught on in the first place, before the ozone layer problem was discovered -2008-04-15.txt:01:01:35: <ehird`> I am a timezone bigot! :D -2008-04-19.txt:19:50:05: <EsoBot> 206 62 fs net zoneinfo -2008-04-27.txt:00:59:08: <evincarofautumn> What time zone are you? -2008-05-02.txt:01:30:59: <evincar> Heh. You and your silly time zone. -2008-05-06.txt:16:34:23: <ais523> well, there's time-zone issues -2008-05-15.txt:19:49:59: <kar8nga> good night everybody (I guess I'm in a bit earlier timezone than you) -2008-05-15.txt:22:56:45: <AnMaster> agreed. so yet timezones cause issues here -2008-05-31.txt:17:23:11: <ais523> so it may be a timezone problem -2008-06-08.txt:01:37:10: <Slereah7> I still have no idea how to find active zones and all. -2008-06-08.txt:01:43:48: <Slereah7> Oh wait, does the 0 node have to be in the active zone? -2008-06-08.txt:01:45:26: <Slereah7> Writing that active zone just got a whole lot easier! -2008-06-16.txt:00:41:31: <augur> actually the marriage will have to wait, im going to eat calzone :d -2008-07-03.txt:16:24:48: <AnMaster> timezones? -2008-07-03.txt:21:13:36: <tusho> timezones make me go :/ -2008-07-03.txt:21:14:27: <tusho> timezones make me go ':/' -2008-07-10.txt:17:50:00: <ais523> tusho: it's about 10 to 6 in your time zone -2008-07-24.txt:21:43:46: <AnMaster> psygnisfive, learn about timeszones -2008-07-24.txt:21:48:56: <AnMaster> MikeRiley, anyway switzerland... Wouldn't that be same timezone as me? -2008-07-25.txt:15:12:02: <pikhq> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/China_to_establish_protest_zones_for_Olympics -2008-07-30.txt:00:24:47: <tusho_> http://snippets.dzone.com/posts/show/3932 <-- Hm. Are SMTP servers really this simple? -2008-07-30.txt:00:25:09: <tusho_> http://snippets.dzone.com/posts/show/5152 -2008-08-10.txt:11:46:10: <AnMaster> what timezone are the tunes.org logs in? -2008-08-10.txt:11:47:46: <Deewiant> tusho: EST can refer to 5 different time zones... -2008-08-16.txt:02:09:19: <oklopol> it was a blinking red zone in my eyes -2008-08-24.txt:21:21:52: <AnMaster> fizzie, so what timezone did you mean? -2008-08-25.txt:11:50:12: <AnMaster> it is 13:50 in his timezone I think -2008-08-27.txt:14:22:35: <fungot> fizzie: you mean at fnord? i'm assuming it was the era of the disbelievingness, it was a blinking red zone in my eyes now... that'd be a really, really fnord way to define what happens at the edges -2008-09-02.txt:20:12:31: <fizzie> What sort of time zone was tusho in, anyway? -2008-09-07.txt:17:08:43: <AnMaster> certainly my basic def-bf compiler does some basic stuff like that in no-jump zones -2008-09-14.txt:18:35:41: <AnMaster> what timezone? -2008-09-20.txt:21:42:34: <tusho> #esoteric is a serious business zone! -2008-09-24.txt:00:09:41: <fizzie> Sleep is necessary now. Already 02am in this time zone. -2008-10-01.txt:23:08:41: <AnMaster> oklocod, I think it was of the lines of "car deformation zone engineer annual conference secretary ball-point pen tip" + a lot more and in one word -2008-10-06.txt:20:54:14: <ais523> <noZone> ##Begin comment: Note to self, IRP reads comments, like this one, and makes comments about their content. Avoid placing sensitive data (e.g. SSN, Bank account numbers, etc.) in IRP comments like you do in other languages. ##End Comment -2008-10-07.txt:15:33:37: <AnMaster> ehird, what about timezone? -2008-10-07.txt:17:07:23: <oklocod> has tons of different applications, most of which are in the grey zone i automatically assume np-complete. -2008-10-22.txt:19:27:30: <asiekierka> i have a different timezone -2008-10-23.txt:15:10:13: <ehird> and its birthday is officially in the australian timezone -2008-10-24.txt:09:48:30: <ais523> which time zone is that, by the way? -2008-10-24.txt:09:49:58: <ais523> grr, always get time zones backwards... -2008-10-26.txt:12:58:13: <AnMaster> ehird it always tell me what timezone anyway: -2008-10-28.txt:19:37:13: <fungot> asiekierka: what's the question there too... but it's in the gray zone. the black parts show the table? can you lisppaste input output code? -2008-11-07.txt:11:50:46: <ais523> my guess is either that it isn't precise enough, or that it doesn't handle timezones correctly, or something like that -2008-11-08.txt:00:51:04: <fizzie> Bleh, that was a long pre-christmas party; it's almost 03 am in this time zone. -2008-11-14.txt:16:08:50: <MizardX> Well... until other arrangements can be made: http://snippets.dzone.com/posts/show/6506 -- Redivider interpreter written in Python -2008-11-30.txt:12:30:25: <pgimeno> what's your timezone? -2008-11-30.txt:18:16:54: <oerjan> you can set your timezone in the preferences. -2008-12-09.txt:20:43:04: <zuff> (n=Corun@94-193-40-216.zone7.bethere.co.uk) -2008-12-15.txt:17:24:58: <AnMaster> I did google and search amazon, 6 hits on google, 3 on amazone, none seem relevant -2008-12-25.txt:14:55:58: <ais523|direct> there's a dead zone of 6 cells, which is never used -2008-12-25.txt:14:56:33: <AnMaster> right, and this dead zone is used for scratch storage or? -2008-12-25.txt:14:57:09: <ais523|direct> which means, for instance, starting at the stack pointer <<<<<[[<<<<<<]<<<<<<] will always land on a particular cell in the dead zone -2008-12-25.txt:14:59:21: <ais523|direct> two 0s in a row mean you're either at top of stack (to the right) or in the dead zone (to the left) -2008-12-25.txt:14:59:34: <ais523|direct> and whenever the exact numerical location isn't known, we're to the right of the dead zone -2008-12-25.txt:15:00:18: <AnMaster> so to move to a static area you just move to the dead zone then move a fixed number of cells from it? -2008-12-25.txt:17:38:02: <ais523|direct> to narrow down nationalities based on timezones -2008-12-30.txt:17:53:48: <AnMaster> ehird, well no, because I think we should go on the Australia timezone -2008-12-30.txt:17:54:43: <ehird> Agora celebrates its birthday in the australian timezone. -2008-12-30.txt:17:57:52: <AnMaster> ehird, idea: Use same timezone as that of the first freenode server to enter the new year -2008-12-30.txt:19:42:19: <oerjan> what we need is a list of countries by timezone, then each hour we select one randomly in the timezone currently entering new year and put it in the topic. -2008-12-31.txt:22:34:45: <oerjan> there are no +1:30 timezones in the wp list -2009-01-01.txt:00:36:06: <fizzie> Happy new; although this time zone had it quite a while ago. -2009-01-09.txt:20:03:51: <fizzie> Yes, I'm seeing the kb.mozillazone.org description of that right now. -2009-01-15.txt:13:17:28: <ais523> (if anyone claims I'm an hour late on that, I'll mumble something about time zones, or DST, or something.) -2009-01-16.txt:19:53:15: <ais523> default format of the corresponding database engine. Time zone effects -2009-01-18.txt:16:20:10: <ais523> hmm... kerlo's in the same timezone as me, maybe not -2009-01-26.txt:20:07:26: <ehird> [time zones] -2009-02-07.txt:18:34:11: <AnMaster> ehird, well so can I, alas we are in different timezones, so that means I have to give up an hour before you. + it is already dark outside since a few hours. -2009-02-13.txt:23:15:46: <GregorR> ais523: It's 11AM EST though, so it's Friday 13th in most timezones. -2009-02-22.txt:18:15:45: <oklopol> yeah it's a time microzone thing. -2009-02-27.txt:17:50:57: <ais523> also, ehird's client is the only one that gave the timezone -2009-02-27.txt:17:52:03: <ehird> ais523: also, ehird's client is the only one that gave the timezone -2009-03-06.txt:09:41:26: <fizzie> Relative amount of chatter caused by the noisiest people, at any particular time-of-day (in Finland's timezone, EET/EEST) over the years 2006-2008: http://zem.fi/~fis/test5.png (test6.png for absolute values). -2009-03-06.txt:19:33:15: <fizzie> The numbers are for my local time zone, EET/EEST. -2009-03-10.txt:22:45:09: <Deewiant> AnMaster: 22:20:50 in your time zone -2009-03-13.txt:23:42:19: <fizzie> A , would start at the "next print zone", and "print zones are 14 characters wide". That's very out-of-nowhere. -2009-03-14.txt:17:23:21: <ehird> It'd be nice if I could fix the times too; anyone know clog's timezone? Well, I could check. -2009-03-14.txt:17:27:49: <ehird> I want to make it fix the timezones, too -2009-03-15.txt:22:55:19: <AnMaster> -mno-red-zone -2009-03-15.txt:22:55:19: <AnMaster> Do not use a so called red zone for x86-64 code. The red zone is mandated by the x86-64 ABI, it is a 128-byte area beyond the location of the stack pointer that -2009-03-15.txt:22:55:19: <AnMaster> will not be modified by signal or interrupt handlers and therefore can be used for temporary data without adjusting the stack pointer. The flag -mno-red-zone dis‐ -2009-03-15.txt:22:55:19: <AnMaster> ables this red zone. -2009-03-24.txt:18:32:14: <ehird> this is officially a metaphor free zone -2009-03-26.txt:14:36:59: <fizzie> That's 7 to 7:20 in your time zone. -2009-03-28.txt:16:51:19: <AnMaster> ehird, you sent that line mentioning what bsmntbombdood said at 01:36 at the time 15:41:30 in your timezone. And yes I know you commented on something way before -2009-03-30.txt:23:32:27: <Asztal> in your timezone -2009-03-31.txt:20:11:08: <ehird> and timezones -2009-03-31.txt:20:11:29: <ais523> and it's in a different timezone -2009-04-02.txt:01:35:29: <oerjan> kerlo: don't trust him, he could be lying about his timezone -2009-04-02.txt:16:47:05: <fizzie> Nebula were polite enough to point the reverse-DNS zone for the /64 they've assigned to me to any DNS server I wanted; that's some good service. The network in the student apartments of my university also does native IPv6, but there are no reverse-DNS entries there. -2009-04-02.txt:23:06:01: <fizzie> Normally it's done only for zone transfers, though. -2009-04-02.txt:23:07:26: <AnMaster> fizzie, zone transfers in djbdns are different iirc -2009-04-04.txt:03:50:14: <kerlo> Do you live in a very strange time zone? -2009-04-04.txt:03:50:35: <oklopol> i don't think time zones get any stranger than 30 min off -2009-04-04.txt:03:52:25: <oerjan> oklopol: actually there are some quarter zones -2009-04-04.txt:03:53:12: <oerjan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_time_zones -2009-04-04.txt:06:55:55: <oerjan> wait, you already gave him the book? darn timezones -2009-04-04.txt:21:56:58: <fizzie> Deewiant: Anyway, they give you this static /64 block, and are also polite enough to point the reverse-DNS zone NS delegation to any name server(s) I happened to want. -2009-04-04.txt:21:58:19: <Deewiant> ehird: http://www.nebula.fi/nebulazone.php -2009-04-06.txt:23:12:00: <Ilari> A.K.A. Timezone Charlie. :-) -2009-04-06.txt:23:14:09: <Ilari> One issue with those timezone codes is that fractional-hour zones don't have codes and also that UTC+13h and UTC+14h (a.k.a. Y2K timezone) don't have labels. -2009-04-10.txt:22:36:58: <zzo38> 212.5d Instants can't come into play. If an instant would come into play, it remains in its previous zone instead. -2009-04-10.txt:23:57:19: <zzo38> All I see is the rules that say if an instant or sorcery tries to come into play, instead it remains in its current zone -2009-04-19.txt:00:26:46: <ehird> http://www.ggzgamingzone.org/ -2009-04-19.txt:00:28:08: <ehird> http://www.ggzgamingzone.org/gameservers/gnibbles/ -2009-04-20.txt:17:41:14: <Slereah_> Just do a no script zone -2009-04-20.txt:17:42:10: <Sgeo> And you think that I can magically make whereever I'm standing be a no-script zone? -2009-04-20.txt:17:42:29: <Slereah_> Well, you know, your own zone -2009-04-20.txt:21:25:18: <fizzie> Not too much activity going on in mklinux.org; the most recent post in the "news" section is from 12 March 2007 about a time zone datafile update, and the one before that is from 11 August 2002 -2009-04-29.txt:18:24:39: <fizzie> Residential zone. -2009-05-02.txt:22:54:24: <Deewiant> ehird: http://www.pool.ntp.org/zone/europe -2009-05-02.txt:22:55:35: <ehird> Pick a timezone! -2009-05-09.txt:09:49:50: <evincar> Look at ex-Ozone Dan Balan, RadU, and Arsenium. -2009-05-09.txt:12:57:20: <ais523> also, it's often more crowded than this, you must be in a weird timezone -2009-05-14.txt:18:49:24: <GregorR> chromakode: Timezones! Tiiiimezones! :P -2009-05-14.txt:18:49:35: <ehird> GregorR: wait, how can you know chromakode IRL if different timezones -2009-05-14.txt:18:50:31: <GregorR> ehird: Although, I just realized that the problem wasn't timezones, but that I was on a plane :P -2009-05-14.txt:23:50:56: <ais523> timezone difference, you see -2009-05-30.txt:01:56:29: <goonx> ok, good night ;), or bye (dunno whch timezone you have :P) -2009-06-01.txt:20:37:02: <pikhq> GregorR-L: Which is part of why the UK isn't part of the Euro Zone. -2009-06-16.txt:21:48:58: <AnMaster> what time zone -2009-06-26.txt:23:33:48: <ais523> and different timezones -2009-07-18.txt:20:59:15: <AnMaster> so adjust for your timezone as needed -2009-07-20.txt:21:54:08: <SimonRC> what's your timezone? -2009-07-26.txt:21:08:08: <pikhq> ehird: Called "Ozone". -2009-08-01.txt:00:02:11: <dear_my_inner_ra> otoh, it only works if you're near that timezone -2009-08-07.txt:23:58:58: <AnMaster> ehird, faster than timezones -2009-08-07.txt:23:59:26: <mycroftiv> the secret of eternal youth is circling the pole going against the flow of timezones, you go back in time one day per revolution -2009-08-09.txt:15:33:28: * AnMaster builds warzone2100 using gentoo portage. better gpu on there :P -2009-08-11.txt:18:35:38: <AnMaster> also going to play warzone2100 (on my desktop, due to bug mentioned yesteday I can't on my laptop) -2009-08-11.txt:21:25:49: * AnMaster goes playing warzone2100 -2009-08-13.txt:14:52:44: <ehird> http://youhadbetterknow.com/knowledgezone/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/tcp.jpg -2009-08-15.txt:19:02:18: <AnMaster> playing warzone2100 -2009-08-16.txt:16:52:48: <AnMaster> ehird, vegastrike, warzone2100 -2009-08-21.txt:07:10:59: <AnMaster> ehird, I don't know when tomorrow is in your private timezone :P -2009-08-21.txt:18:47:20: <ehird> "Because you chose the US as your location, obviously I should only give you the option of US timezones." -2009-08-21.txt:20:27:45: <AnMaster> Secure surf zone_NameOfMajorISPInSweden -2009-08-26.txt:01:28:01: <ehird> impomatic: lol, you're in the same timezone and i'm wide awake :D -2009-09-03.txt:18:10:47: <AnMaster> lament, but timezones are mostly political inventions... -2009-09-05.txt:18:02:44: <AnMaster> though that is probably gray-zone -2009-09-28.txt:14:40:31: <AnMaster> oh. no idea what timezone it may use -2009-09-28.txt:14:40:49: <ais523> it uses one of the US timezones, I think -2009-09-29.txt:22:16:52: <fizzie> No, I mean "blah.com" is actually written "blah.com." in DNS messages and zone files and so on, so the . is a bit of a not-really-just-a-label-separator there too. -2009-09-29.txt:22:25:21: <fizzie> ac descriptive text "The AC zone file is protected under national and international law as a database compilation." -2009-09-29.txt:22:25:21: <fizzie> ac descriptive text "Access to the .AC Zone File information does not in itself convey any rights to any party to use, store, manipulate, such information without the explicit written consent of ICB plc, P.O.Box 4040 Christchurch, BH23 1XW, UK." -2009-10-04.txt:07:11:58: <zzo38> I thought it was late. But, not in your timezone? Or maybe in your timezone too. -2009-10-05.txt:01:51:17: <ehird_> arbitraryrequirementsatisfactionzone.ridiculous -2009-10-08.txt:19:14:46: <Asztal> http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-mice/razer-naga -2009-10-13.txt:19:26:50: <fizzie> "-- due to a bug in the script that generates the SE zone file. The SE tld has close to one million domains that all went down due to missing the trailing dot in the SE zone file --"; news like this are comforting, in the sense that it seems more likely that they're still humans running the Internet. Or maybe that's just what they want us to believe. -2009-10-19.txt:21:26:56: * AnMaster thinks this printout got messed up (translated from Swedish): "Travel time: 41.00 SEK Date: 2 Changes: 675.00 Number of zones: 2009-10-20 Cost: 00:52" -2009-10-19.txt:21:28:15: <AnMaster> olsner, the worst part is that there is 1 change and somewhere between 6 and 10 zones -2009-10-19.txt:21:29:42: <olsner> maybe the travel planner is taking you on a 668 zone round-trip -2009-10-19.txt:21:33:03: <AnMaster> now it is mixed up so that the zone count is 41:00 -2009-10-19.txt:21:43:55: <olsner> right, the print view picks a previously displayed price as the number of zones -2009-10-19.txt:21:44:55: <olsner> it seems to have picked the price of an ungdom pendlarkort as the number of zones for me -2009-10-19.txt:21:46:04: <olsner> I don't get the travel time or date or changes or price columns mixed up though, just random data in the number of zones -2009-10-19.txt:21:46:20: <olsner> Alternativ 1 Restid: 00:59 Giltig: 2009-10-19 Byten: 1 Antal zoner: 785,00 Pris: 20,00 SEK -2009-10-19.txt:22:28:30: <ehird> Nope, no timezone update. -2009-10-22.txt:08:30:13: <Oranjer> oh! I thought you would be recommending a language that was outside my comfort zone -2009-10-28.txt:17:19:33: <ais523> SCO also sued Autozone (for using Linux, but apparently they're going to settle that one), IBM (for contributing code to Linux that they claim infringes their copyrights), and Novell (for claiming that they didn't give SCO the copyrights in question in the first place) -2009-10-30.txt:18:31:22: <AnMaster> Oranjer, "hello" "hi" "good evening" and similar phrases are more usual. The latter one is probably not recommended over IRC due to time zones -2009-10-31.txt:10:25:17: <AnMaster> and we are in same time zone -2009-11-03.txt:12:52:08: <fizzie> There was a zoom yesterday too; at least yesterday our time zone, maybe not when you visited it. -2009-11-14.txt:00:27:31: <Rugxulo> yeah, you're way the heck over seas (different time zone), it's not very late here (6pm) -2009-11-23.txt:11:51:37: <fizzie> Perl 6 has an *awesome* set of operators; http://glyphic.s3.amazonaws.com/ozone/mark/periodic/Periodic+Table+of+the+Operators+A4+300dpi.jpg (warning: a bit big image, 3477x2456 pixels). -2009-11-26.txt:17:40:55: <ais523> wow, timezone update for Antarctica -2009-12-01.txt:05:25:40: <oerjan> well in some time zones -2009-12-01.txt:05:25:48: <oklofok> in this time zone -2009-12-01.txt:05:30:26: <coppro> the only important timezone is whenever rollover ends -2009-12-01.txt:17:27:34: <quantumEd> oklofok just look at this picture, http://thinkzone.wlonk.com/MathGems/pics/pythagorean_theorem.gif -- this proves pythagoras without any "R" or "metric" or analytic geometry -2009-12-01.txt:17:30:46: <oklofok> http://thinkzone.wlonk.com/MathGems/pics/pythagorean_theorem.gif <<< this is meaningless -2009-12-05.txt:08:49:29: <ehird> 09:27:34 <quantumEd> oklofok just look at this picture, http://thinkzone.wlonk.com/MathGems/pics/pythagorean_theorem.gif -- this proves pythagoras without any "R" or "metric" or analytic geometry -2009-12-06.txt:00:44:01: <oerjan> hm, the logs have changed their timezone... -2009-12-06.txt:00:55:32: <oerjan> ok there _may_ be a few other insignificant countries in that time zone -2009-12-12.txt:12:08:37: <fizzie> This is the late, but there are at least several that can do the hidden-primary-DNS setup: their servers work technically as secondaries, with zone transfers from your primary, but you only put the secondaries into the TLD registry, so that it doesn't matter if your primary server is up only randomly. -2009-12-12.txt:12:10:49: <fizzie> <fizzie> This is the late, but there are at least several that can do the hidden-primary-DNS setup: their servers work technically as secondaries, with zone transfers from your primary, but you only put the secondaries into the TLD registry, so that it doesn't matter if your primary server is up only randomly. -2009-12-12.txt:12:13:23: <fizzie> Well, what it boils down to, assuming you don't want to run a DNS server at all, is that everydns.net is one provider that does completely free "full" DNS. (I have no idea how freely their DNS zone editor allows you to do things, though.) -2009-12-12.txt:14:44:36: <fizzie> There actually aren't so many separate commits that it'd look impressive; but you can deduce something from the fact that the last commit was made at 2006-04-06 05:43:19, and that is indeed in the local time zone. As I remember it, we had the "return the project and demonstrate it to the course assistant" session booked for 2006-04-06 morning. -2009-12-23.txt:05:06:07: <uorygl> Hmm, I should have realized that before. The root zone file is loaded with hints. -2009-12-28.txt:19:56:18: <zzo38> O, it is the same timezone that I am at -2009-12-28.txt:19:56:31: <zzo38> The server TIME command also gives the same timezone -2009-12-31.txt:23:56:25: <SimonRC> or new year in the One True Timezone -2009-12-31.txt:23:58:12: <AnMaster> no way you are in a timezone offset by two minutes to GMT ;P -2010-01-02.txt:14:19:15: <oerjan> and then suddenly the logs are back to the old GMT-8 time zone again... -2010-01-07.txt:21:19:54: <ehird> http://glyphic.s3.amazonaws.com/ozone/mark/periodic/Periodic%20Table%20of%20the%20Operators%20A4%20300dpi.jpg -[too many lines; stopping]
--- a/paste/paste.18773 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,161 +0,0 @@ -2006-06-12.txt:18:36:14: <SimonRC> It's funny! http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/comedy/clue.shtml -2006-12-07.txt:21:15:23: <bsmntbombdood> what a load of shit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/content/articles/2006/12/06/divide_zero_feature.shtml -2006-12-15.txt:20:39:14: <SimonRC> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/comedy/nowshow.shtml -2007-05-01.txt:06:22:08: <SimonRC> WTF?! http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/broadband/tx/universe/vote/ -2008-04-01.txt:16:19:24: <ehird> ais523: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/epeng001.shtml?src=ip_potpw -2008-04-01.txt:16:23:47: <ehird> Radio programmes are available outside the UK in addition to podcasts at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/. Many BBC News programmes are available for viewers outside the UK at http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/video_and_audio/default.stm, BBC Sport highlights are available at http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport and BBC Radio stations are available at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/ -2008-04-07.txt:20:26:38: <SimonRC> I discovered that one can see the latest Dr Who on the web: http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/videos/ -2008-05-26.txt:17:20:23: <SimonRC> http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/player/nol/newsid_7170000/newsid_7179500?redirect=7179544.stm&news=1&nbram=1&bbwm=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1 -2008-11-16.txt:01:05:28: <SimonRC> the thing that was on the radio: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00fksh6 -2009-02-08.txt:17:54:40: <SimonRC> oerjan: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007jwp4 -2009-04-29.txt:17:24:48: <ehird> http://www.bbc.co.uk/election97/frameset.htm ← HOLY FUCK RETRO -2009-05-18.txt:23:51:05: <ehird> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hitchhikers/game.shtml -2010-08-01.txt:16:37:00: <alise> AnMaster: Now compare with our BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-10830485 -2010-08-21.txt:17:05:32: <alise> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11049316 -2010-10-08.txt:19:46:01: <alise> pikhq: For news itself, though, I presume you know about http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/. -2010-10-10.txt:16:44:17: <cheater99> also: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11494729 -2010-10-20.txt:18:36:46: <elliott> Do you <3 this? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11379089 -2010-10-20.txt:18:40:41: <Vorpal> <elliott> Do you <3 this? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11379089 <-- yeargh -2010-10-25.txt:18:10:37: <Gregor> elliott, pikhq_: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-11573666 -2010-11-28.txt:15:41:45: <elliott> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11837939 -2011-03-09.txt:15:35:39: <coppro> ais523: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11243595 -2011-03-14.txt:17:32:10: <Lymia> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-12249172 -2011-03-15.txt:22:20:05: <Phantom_Hoover> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-12249172#_blank -2011-04-15.txt:18:14:39: <news-ham> Poverty 'hitting pupils' studies': Many pupils living in poverty come to school hungry, tired and in worn-out clothes, a survey by the teachers' union ATL suggests. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/education-13081777 -2011-04-15.txt:18:14:51: <news-ham> Tories 'out of the comfort zone': The Conservatives say they have a programme that would take them "out of their comfort zone" as they publish their Welsh assembly manifesto. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-wales-politics-13083291 -2011-04-15.txt:18:15:01: <news-ham> Comeback kid: Fidel Castro is well again, but does he still have power? http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-latin-america-13047948 -2011-04-15.txt:18:15:23: <news-ham> Croatians convicted of war crimes: Two Croatian military leaders are jailed for war crimes committed in the 1990s, provoking anger in Zagreb where many regard them as war heroes. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-europe-13092438 -2011-04-15.txt:18:15:50: <news-ham> Clashes at mass protest in Syria: Security forces in the Syrian capital Damascus use tear gas and batons on thousands of anti-government protesters trying to march on the city centre. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-middle-east-13097926 -2011-04-15.txt:18:16:13: <news-ham> Winding-up order for Wrexham FC: Wrexham FC are issued with a winding up order by Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs over a debt of almost £200,000. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-13101239 -2011-04-15.txt:18:17:39: <news-ham> Defiant Yemen leader holds rally: Yemen's President Ali Abdullah Saleh addresses large crowds in the capital, Sanaa, denouncing protesters as huge opposition rallies are held elsewhere. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-middle-east-13098338 -2011-04-15.txt:18:17:47: <news-ham> Japan orders nuclear compensation: Japan orders the operator of the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant to pay provisional compensation to about 48,000 affected families. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-asia-pacific-13090304 -2011-04-15.txt:18:17:53: <news-ham> Bail for Indian social activist: India's Supreme Court grants bail to leading public health specialist and human rights activist, Dr Binayak Sen. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-south-asia-13091521 -2011-04-15.txt:18:24:06: <news-ham> Chile to exhume ex-leader Allende: A Chilean court orders the exhumation of Salvador Allende to determine whether the former leader was murdered or killed himself. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-latin-america-13096836 -2011-04-15.txt:18:27:02: <news-ham> Winding-up order for Wrexham FC: Wrexham FC are issued with a winding up order by Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs over a debt of almost £200,000. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-13101239 -2011-04-15.txt:18:34:28: <news-ham> VIDEO: Webscape: Cartoons and synthesisers: How British protests are being affected by the digital revolution http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/technology-13078297 -2011-04-15.txt:18:37:30: <news-ham> The story of our rooms: A pub in London's Soho locks its doors before a planned "kiss-in" protest by hundreds of gay rights' protesters. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-13085653 -2011-04-15.txt:18:38:11: <news-ham> Debt advisers closed down by OFT: Popular music streaming service Spotify has put caps on the amount of free music listeners can have. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/education-13081777 -2011-04-15.txt:18:38:27: <news-ham> VIDEO: Film found in church 'reveals Nazi guilt': Severe storms leave at least nine people dead and destroy school buildings and dozens of homes in the US states of Arkansas and Oklahoma. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-wales-13098246 -2011-04-15.txt:18:38:52: <news-ham> VIDEO: Royal wedding plans, US style: The Republic of Ireland's progress on cutting its deficit has been approved by international authorities, a condition of its 85bn-euro bail-out. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-south-asia-13091521 -2011-04-15.txt:18:39:44: <news-ham> Vettel heads Hamilton in practice: Hamas condemns the murder of Italian pro-Palestinian activist Vittorio Arrigoni, found hanged in Gaza City hours after his abduction. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13100390 -2011-04-15.txt:18:42:23: <news-ham> G20 finance ministers meet in US: China's economy continues to boom as inflation accelerates to the fastest rate since 2008. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-13096021 -2011-04-15.txt:18:42:32: <news-ham> Stalled revolts: British artist Tracey Emin salutes a "spectacular" new gallery in Margate its founders hope will help regenerate the Kent seaside town. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/magazine-12483492 -2011-04-15.txt:18:42:57: <news-ham> Polar bear Mercedes put to sleep: Lecturers at the University of Salford say they could strike over plans to cut more than 200 posts. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-middle-east-13097926 -2011-04-15.txt:18:44:00: <news-ham> FE colleges 'charging lower fees': Popular music streaming service Spotify has put caps on the amount of free music listeners can have. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13091269 -2011-04-15.txt:18:44:15: <news-ham> Ex-EastEnders star joins Corrie: Duke, Dash, Digby, Pickle - what was the first Dulux dog called? http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/education-13086654 -2011-04-15.txt:18:44:40: <news-ham> 'A tonic to the nation': Andy Murray cruises through to a semi-final against Rafael Nadal with a straight-sets defeat of Frederico Gil in the Monte Carlo Masters. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/health-11442887 -2011-04-15.txt:18:45:20: <news-ham> VIDEO: Five hours to clean one boot for big day: A man jailed for murdering a mentally ill man in a hammer attack in Glasgow has his conviction quashed. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13099147 -2011-04-15.txt:18:47:38: <news-ham> VIDEO: Car thief crashes through level crossing: The sister of a girl thought to have been murdered in a so-called "honour killing" admits robbing her family at their Cheshire home. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-latin-america-13047948 -2011-04-15.txt:18:52:16: <news-ham> David Jason returning to comedy: Popular music streaming service Spotify has put caps on the amount of free music listeners can have. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13092126 -2011-04-15.txt:18:52:26: <news-ham> VIDEO: Royal wedding plans, US style: Hamas condemns the murder of Italian pro-Palestinian activist Vittorio Arrigoni, found hanged in Gaza City hours after his abduction. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-middle-east-13091091 -2011-04-15.txt:18:52:38: <news-ham> Keys to play Albert Hall concert: Coachellla unveils groundbreaking new stage and light show http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13095810 -2011-04-15.txt:18:52:41: <news-ham> Brain scans show Alzheimer's risk: EDF Energy gave the BBC special access to Sizewell B to reassure people that Japan's Fukushima disaster could not happen here. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-13056862 -2011-04-15.txt:18:53:06: <news-ham> VIDEO: ISS crew phone home on space anniversary: A polar bear and cub emerge from hibernation in Alaska to find a construction site over their den. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/health-13047332 -2011-04-15.txt:18:54:13: <news-ham> 7 days quiz: An Italian pro-Palestinian activist is found dead in the Gaza Strip hours after being abducted, local security officials say. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-middle-east-13091091 -2011-04-15.txt:18:54:27: <news-ham> Royal Opera announces new season: London's Royal Opera House announces its programme for the new season, including an Olympic theme and a celebration of Placido Domingo's career. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13092146 -2011-04-15.txt:18:54:39: <news-ham> Pollution hits EU wildlife havens: Air pollution is damaging 60% of Europe's prime wildlife sites in meadows, forests and heaths, a team of scientists warns. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/science-environment-13094597 -2011-04-15.txt:18:56:17: <news-ham> VIDEO: Bubble car business takes off: Father and daughter team of Alan and Emma Evans, have developed a scale model version of the 1950s bubble car that is proving a huge hit. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-13088553 -2011-04-15.txt:18:56:48: <news-ham> Stale beer's chemistry examined: The exact chemical recipe of stale beer is elucidated, and researchers suggest simple ways to prevent the fresh taste of beer degrading. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/science-environment-13067547 -2011-04-15.txt:18:57:10: <news-ham> Fujitsu offers UK fast rural net: Fujitsu is to create a superfast broadband network for rural parts of the UK, rivalling BT's service. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/technology-13060548 -2011-04-15.txt:18:57:15: <news-ham> Spotify cuts back on free music: Popular music streaming service Spotify has put caps on the amount of free music listeners can have. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/technology-13078302 -2011-04-15.txt:18:58:27: <news-ham> Osborne and deputy clash over AV: Tory Chancellor George Osborne clashes with his Lib Dem deputy in a row over the alternative vote referendum. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-politics-13071737 -2011-04-15.txt:18:58:34: <news-ham> VIDEO: Blackberry and Motorola take on iPad: Rory Cellan-Jones tries out the new high end tablets hoping to take a bight out of Apple?s market. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/technology-13058814 -2011-04-15.txt:19:04:14: <news-ham> New Music Experience: Coachellla unveils groundbreaking new stage and light show http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13091269 -2011-04-15.txt:19:05:44: <news-ham> Road to Libya: The key events leading UK into military action http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-politics-12821505 -2011-04-15.txt:19:07:21: <news-ham> VIDEO: Trio of jaguar cubs charms Russia: A zoo in St Petersburg is celebrating the arrival of jaguar cub triplets - a very rare occurrence when the animals are bread in captivity. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/science-environment-13077955 -2011-04-15.txt:19:08:19: <news-ham> London Met slashes degree courses: London Metropolitan University says it is to cut hundreds of courses so that it can survive financially when tuition fees are increased. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/education-13098705 -2011-04-15.txt:19:08:38: <news-ham> Sony considers two-week shutdown: Sony Corporation is considering shutting down some of its premises in Japan because of the ongoing power shortages. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/13075977 -2011-04-15.txt:19:29:41: <news-ham> Winding-up order for Wrexham FC: Wrexham FC are issued with a winding up order by Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs over a debt of almost £200,000. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-13101239 -2011-04-15.txt:19:30:05: <news-ham> Orchestra to record Games anthems: The London Philharmonic Orchestra is to record the national anthems of all 205 countries participating in the 2012 Olympics. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13093562 -2011-04-15.txt:20:04:55: <news-ham> 7 days quiz: Duke, Dash, Digby, Pickle - what was the first Dulux dog called? http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/magazine-13068655 -2011-04-15.txt:20:46:34: <news-ham> Doubts over Gbagbo ally's arrest: The whereabouts of Charles Ble Goude, a key ally of deposed Ivory Coast leader Laurent Gbagbo, are unclear, after a spokesman withdraws a statement saying he had been arrested. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-africa-13093017 -2011-04-15.txt:20:46:42: <news-ham> Newspaper review: A scoop in the Times leads the way for Friday's papers http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-13090201 -2011-04-15.txt:20:46:57: <news-ham> Pratchett to probe assisted death: Writer Sir Terry Pratchett is to participate in a BBC Two documentary about assisted suicide, it is announced. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13088111 -2011-04-15.txt:20:51:34: <news-ham> VIDEO: Bubble car business takes off: Father and daughter team of Alan and Emma Evans, have developed a scale model version of the 1950s bubble car that is proving a huge hit. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-13088553 -2011-04-15.txt:20:52:57: <news-ham> Colleges 'axing courses and jobs': A survey of colleges in England for two unions suggests many have already been cutting courses and jobs. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/education-13003726 -2011-04-15.txt:20:53:19: <news-ham> VIDEO: New funding to clean up waterways: Voluntary groups are being invited to bid for funding to clean up England's waterways and create better habitats for wildlife http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/science-environment-13059545 -2011-04-15.txt:20:59:18: <news-ham> Do all languages share features dictated by brain?: A long-standing idea that languages share universal features dictated by human brain structure is cast into doubt. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/science-environment-13049700 -2011-04-15.txt:21:04:34: <news-ham> Burkina Faso government dismissed: Burkina Faso's president dissolves his government after members of his presidential guard went on an overnight rampage in the capital Ouagadougou. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-africa-13101197 -2011-04-15.txt:21:06:51: <news-ham> EU's biofuel targets 'unethical': EU biofuels targets are unethical and should be lifted temporarily, according to a report. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-13056862 -2011-04-15.txt:21:07:03: <news-ham> Tories 'out of the comfort zone': The Conservatives say they have a programme that would take them "out of their comfort zone" as they publish their Welsh assembly manifesto. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-wales-politics-13083291 -2011-04-15.txt:21:08:44: <news-ham> Actor Trevor Bannister dies at 76: Are You Being Served? star Trevor Bannister has died at the age of 76, his brother confirms to the BBC. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13098312 -2011-04-15.txt:21:08:47: <news-ham> Cry wolf: Why are re-worked fairy-tales like Red Riding Hood now in vogue? http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-12992931 -2011-04-15.txt:21:09:47: <news-ham> Stalled revolts: Is the Arab Spring running out of steam? http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-middle-east-13091091 -2011-04-15.txt:21:11:36: <news-ham> Smart investment: Does your business need its own mobile app? http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/business-13000883 -2011-04-15.txt:21:12:22: <news-ham> Italian activist murdered in Gaza: An Italian pro-Palestinian activist is found dead in the Gaza Strip hours after being abducted, local security officials say. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-middle-east-13088630 -2011-04-15.txt:21:17:08: <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13047570 ;; BBC NEWS -2011-04-15.txt:21:21:12: <news-ham> David Jason returning to comedy: Sir David Jason is making his comedy comeback in a new BBC One sitcom about a former soldier mistakenly put in charge of royal security. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13065697 -2011-04-15.txt:21:50:52: <news-ham> Weapons found in dissident search: Guns and ammunition, including two pistols, are found in Lurgan by police investigating dissident republican activity. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-northern-ireland-13100494 -2011-04-15.txt:22:19:14: <news-ham> Benefit cheat danced to karaoke: A benefits cheat is given a suspected jail term for falsely claiming benefits while working as a karaoke host. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-13097919 -2011-04-15.txt:22:19:50: <news-ham> Tears for Margate: Emotional Tracey Emin salutes the Kent resort's new gallery http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13100390 -2011-04-15.txt:22:21:14: <news-ham> Uganda politician wounded by army: Ugandan opposition leader Kizza Besigye is injured as soldiers open fire to disperse protesters in the capital, Kampala. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-africa-13079335 -2011-04-15.txt:22:22:15: <Vorpal> elliott, feature request, some way to get http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/europe/ -2011-04-15.txt:22:22:55: <Vorpal> elliott, well, one for each on the map halfway down http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/ ? -2011-04-15.txt:22:23:58: <news-ham> Explore the Space Station: Clickable guide to the International Space Station http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/science-environment-12984241 -2011-04-15.txt:22:24:00: <news-ham> Irish pass first economic review: The Republic of Ireland's progress on cutting its deficit has been approved by international authorities, a condition of its 85bn-euro bail-out. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/business-13091873 -2011-04-15.txt:22:24:16: <news-ham> Japan orders nuclear compensation: Japan orders the operator of the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant to pay provisional compensation to about 48,000 affected families. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-asia-pacific-13090304 -2011-04-15.txt:22:40:28: <news-ham> New Music Experience: Coachellla unveils groundbreaking new stage and light showhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13091269 -2011-04-15.txt:22:55:41: <news-ham> Actor Trevor Bannister dies at 76: Are You Being Served? star Trevor Bannister has died at the age of 76, his brother confirms to the BBC. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13098312 -2011-04-15.txt:22:59:35: <elliott> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ ;; WHOOPS LOOK AT THAT BEST NEWS WEBSITE UI EVER, NON-MOBILEVERSION -2011-04-15.txt:23:10:05: <news-ham> VIDEO: Car thief crashes through level crossing: Footage has been released of a car thief smashing through a level crossing seconds before a train passed through. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-england-13094294 -2011-04-15.txt:23:10:53: <news-ham> Swirling waters: The school swimming club where all but two died in Japan's tsunami http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-asia-pacific-13083528 -2011-04-16.txt:20:17:21: <news-ham> Croat generals jailed for crimes: Two Croatian military leaders are jailed for war crimes committed in the 1990s, provoking anger in Zagreb where many regard them as war heroes. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-europe-13092438 -2011-04-16.txt:22:02:52: <news-ham> Horses die at Ayr Grand National: Two horses die during the running of the Scottish Grand National, a week after a similar tragedy at Aintree. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-13106252 -2011-04-16.txt:22:03:50: <news-ham> Pollution hits EU wildlife havens: Air pollution is damaging 60% of Europe's prime wildlife sites in meadows, forests and heaths, a team of scientists warns. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/science-environment-13094597 -2011-04-17.txt:01:33:47: <news-ham> Drugs lose effectiveness in space: Scientists at Nasa's Johnson Space Centre have shown that the effectiveness of drugs declines far more rapidly in space than on Earth. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/health-13092523 -2011-04-17.txt:01:34:27: <news-ham> Big Society 'toothless' - Nichols: The leader of the Roman Catholic Church in England and Wales describes David Cameron's Big Society initiative as "toothless". http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-politics-13107287 -2011-04-17.txt:01:35:23: <news-ham> Injured teachers awarded millions: Teachers were awarded millions of pounds in compensation in 2010 for accidents, assaults and injuries, figures released by unions show. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/education-13103243 -2011-04-17.txt:01:36:13: <news-ham> Croat generals jailed for crimes: Two Croatian military leaders are jailed for war crimes committed in the 1990s, provoking anger in Zagreb where many regard them as war heroes. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-europe-13092438 -2011-04-17.txt:01:58:57: <news-ham> VIDEO: Bear rescued from tree in New Jersey: A black bear has had to be rescued after becoming stuck in a tree in New Jersey. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-us-canada-13102821 -2011-04-17.txt:02:01:29: <news-ham> The story of our rooms: What does the number and type of rooms say about how houses have evolved over the centuries? http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/magazine-12483492 -2011-04-17.txt:04:29:10: <elliott> Alcohol affects the reward centres of the brain, thereby tricking you into believing that an otherwise ordinary drink “tastes interesting”. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00ndtxm" -2011-04-18.txt:08:41:45: <news-ham> China property price growth slows: China's property price growth slowed in March, as fewer Chinese cities saw an increase in the price of new homes. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/business-13111838 -2011-04-20.txt:01:47:14: <elliott> DOCTOR WHO CAST DYING OFF ONE BY ONE http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13137674 -2011-04-20.txt:01:47:38: <news-ham> Woman dies in Oz diving accident: A woman from Donegal has died in a diving accident off the coast of Queensland in Australia. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-northern-ireland-13137774 -2011-04-20.txt:01:47:50: <news-ham> VIDEO: Royal wedding police helicopter tour: The Metropolitan Police are already identifying security issues along the route and key sites of the royal wedding from the skies. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-13129651 -2011-04-20.txt:01:48:00: <news-ham> VIDEO: Misrata's injured recover in Benghazi: Nato has said that there is only so much air forces can do to protect civilians in the besieged city of Misrata in Libya. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-africa-13134893 -2011-04-27.txt:19:36:46: <news-ham> Kindle gets library book lending: Users of Amazon's Kindle e-reader will soon be able to borrow electronic books from libraries in the US. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/technology-13155967 -2011-04-27.txt:19:37:54: <news-ham> UK economy sees return to growth: The UK economy grew 0.5% in the first three months of this year, making up ground lost at the end of 2010. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/business-13206430 -2011-04-27.txt:19:38:19: <news-ham> Killed daredevil was new recruit: A stunt man who plunged to his death at a Kent show was a new recruit to the daredevil team, according to a friend. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-england-13205471 -2011-04-27.txt:19:38:35: <news-ham> Ban on stem-cell patents 'wrong': Research involving human embryonic stem cells in Europe is under threat, says a group of leading scientists. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/health-13214036 -2011-04-27.txt:19:41:45: <news-ham> 'More pupil benchmarks' to come: The English Baccalaureate is the first of many new performance measures, as ministers seek to make information available to parents in England, says Schools Minister Nick Gibb. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/education-13207055 -2011-04-27.txt:19:43:16: <news-ham> Fed cuts US GDP growth forecast: The Federal Reserve cuts its economic growth forecast for this year, citing weaker growth than expected in the first three months of the year. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/business-13213424 -2011-04-27.txt:19:43:32: <news-ham> McGee 'turns down' Creation drama: Former record label owner and musician Alan McGee turned down the chance to make a drama about his company Creation Records, he reveals. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13162825 -2011-04-27.txt:19:43:43: <news-ham> Map of the route: Explore the processional route to be taken by the newly-married couple, from Westminster Abbey to Buckingham Palace. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-12819687 -2011-04-27.txt:19:43:46: <news-ham> Climate change to hit US rivers: Scarce water supplies in the western US will probably dwindle further as a result of climate change, a US government report says. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-us-canada-13190689 -2011-04-27.txt:19:46:27: <news-ham> Timings on the day: The following timings have been confirmed for royal wedding day. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-13097243 -2011-04-27.txt:23:47:19: <news-ham> VIDEO: Sony's PlayStation hack apology: Sony says experts took 6 days to realise how much data may have been stolen from PlayStation users. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/technology-13206754 -2011-04-27.txt:23:47:57: <news-ham> Grease duet tops film song chart: Olivia Newton-John and John Travolta duet You're The One That I Want, from 1978 film Grease, is the best-selling film track in the UK, research shows. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13182926 -2011-04-27.txt:23:48:01: <news-ham> Inside royal wedding church: Explore where Kate and William will wed on Friday http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-12819684 -2011-04-27.txt:23:48:28: <news-ham> Man's last moments to be screened: The death of an 84-year-old man is to be broadcast on BBC One next month as part of a new science series about the life cycle of the human body. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13192687 -2011-04-27.txt:23:49:46: <news-ham> Japan emperor sees quake-hit port: Japan's imperial couple pay their first visit to parts of the north-east coast worst affected by the 11 March earthquake and tsunami. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-asia-pacific-13207107 -2011-04-27.txt:23:50:40: <news-ham> Cuts 'leave Sure Start starved': Sure Start children's centres in England are being starved of funds and the network is shrinking as councils cut funds, says Labour. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/education-13206802 -2011-04-27.txt:23:52:28: <news-ham> Timings on the day: The following timings have been confirmed for royal wedding day. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-13097243 -2011-04-27.txt:23:54:02: <news-ham> Palestinian rivals 'agree deal': The Fatah party of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and Hamas, which governs Gaza, agree a reconciliation deal, officials say. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-middle-east-13215062 -2011-04-27.txt:23:56:23: <news-ham> VIDEO: Barack Obama: 'I was born in Hawaii': The White House has released President Barack Obama's birth certificate, in response to persistent rumours he was not born in the US. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-us-canada-13213810 -2011-04-27.txt:23:57:25: <news-ham> 'Steal everything': Is the PlayStation hack a sign of crime to come? http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/technology-13213632 -2011-04-29.txt:19:02:59: <news-ham> VIDEO: New Yorkers party under Brooklyn bridge: Celebrations were held in New York as Prince William and Catherine Middleton married in London. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-us-canada-13244404 -2011-04-29.txt:19:03:00: <news-ham> Great escape: How did we end up with the bank holidays we have? http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/magazine-13217242 -2011-04-29.txt:19:03:01: <news-ham> VIDEO: RAF flypast at Buckingham Palace: RAF planes fly past Buckingham Palace as William and Kate kiss on the balcony. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-13241812 -2011-04-29.txt:19:08:39: <news-ham> Uganda riots over Besigye arrest: At least two people die in Uganda's capital in riots over the rough treatment of opposition leader Kizza Besigye when he was arrested on Thursday. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-africa-13237058 -2011-04-29.txt:19:08:39: <news-ham> Swedish film wins Tribeca prize: A Swedish film about two teenage girls whose friendship turns to rivalry wins a top award at the Tribeca film festival in New York. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/entertainment-arts-13237885 -2011-04-29.txt:19:17:15: <news-ham> VIDEO: Ceremony watched around the world: It wasn't just in Britain that the royal wedding dominated the news. From Bangkok to Boston people joined in the celebrations and watched the ceremony unfold. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-13245069 -2011-04-29.txt:19:17:16: <news-ham> Great escape: How did we end up with the bank holidays we have? http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/magazine-13217242 -2011-04-29.txt:19:17:16: <news-ham> Argentina nabs 'drug subs brains': A Colombian man accused of having devised the strategy of using submarines to smuggle drugs from Colombia to the United States is arrested in Argentina. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-latin-america-13217187 -2011-04-29.txt:19:20:07: <news-ham> Wedding 'great moment' - Cameron: Prime Minister David Cameron hails the wedding of Prince William and Catherine Middleton as a "great moment for Britain". http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-politics-13244131 -2011-04-29.txt:19:20:07: <news-ham> Nasa delays Endeavour's mission: Nasa has delayed the launch of its Endeavour shuttle by at least three days because of technical problems in the last hours before lift-off. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/science-environment-13244053 -2011-05-22.txt:12:29:25: <Phantom_Hoover> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-12249363 -2011-06-23.txt:02:51:34: <quintopia> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13874049 -2011-07-11.txt:13:17:02: <Phantom_Hoover> coppro, http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/news/radiophonatron.shtml -2011-07-16.txt:06:01:44: <Taneb> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14153779 -2011-07-19.txt:16:53:31: <Taneb> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14209268 -2011-07-25.txt:05:46:19: <Sgeo_> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14266358 -2011-08-02.txt:20:20:43: <Taneb> Laughing at this headline: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14370878 -2011-08-03.txt:21:00:58: <olsner> oh... this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14389430 is sad news then -2011-08-28.txt:03:38:04: <oerjan> http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/lookaroundyou/series1/periodic.shtml -2011-09-13.txt:14:20:23: <Taneb> Because http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14896330 -2011-10-08.txt:15:49:57: <Ngevd> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15226883 -2011-11-18.txt:22:13:55: <elliott_> Oh good here's a more reliable source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15792282 -2012-01-05.txt:14:05:05: <Ngevd> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16424659 -2012-02-23.txt:19:22:20: <kallisti> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16964783 -2012-03-03.txt:10:00:13: <HackEgo> 2010-08-21.txt:17:05:32: <alise> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11049316
--- a/paste/paste.19339 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,25 +0,0 @@ -2011-07-11.txt:15:27:10: <Taneb> I may make an esolang based on football (soccer) -2011-07-12.txt:16:39:24: <Taneb> Heck, I may even say "seven a mam" 'cos I'm Northern -2011-07-12.txt:19:52:58: <oerjan> <Taneb> Heck, I may even say "seven a mam" 'cos I'm Northern -2011-07-13.txt:21:49:15: <Taneb> I may write an interpreter and release it closed-source -2011-07-15.txt:10:07:01: <Taneb> I'm feeling bored, I may install Haiku -2011-07-18.txt:08:20:29: <Taneb> Right, I'm on Windows 7 now, I may be able to get Haskell working -2011-07-18.txt:20:31:53: <Taneb> ...I may be part Sri Lankan -2011-07-20.txt:15:11:56: <Taneb> I may have been higher on the highscore list -2011-08-08.txt:11:45:17: <Taneb> I think I may have just implemented Numberwang. -2011-08-18.txt:10:16:19: <Taneb> I may make one called YI-pet -2011-08-18.txt:20:27:40: <Taneb> I may try to make one in... -2011-09-05.txt:17:14:55: <Taneb> I may try to create a funge-98 interpreter -2011-09-06.txt:18:17:01: <Taneb> One day I may try to get my old 98 (dunno if SE or not) up working again -2011-09-08.txt:18:20:13: <Taneb> I may learn Funge-98 -2011-09-09.txt:18:41:46: <Taneb> I may make a Feather derivative -2011-09-09.txt:18:48:09: <Taneb> I think I may have finished XSLT S and K -2011-09-10.txt:14:54:34: <Taneb> I may take an IO-less language and, most annoyingly, DEFINE IO FOR IT -2011-09-12.txt:18:00:16: <Taneb> I may write a lambda calculus tutorial -2011-09-13.txt:17:27:28: <Taneb> I think I may have to go now -2011-09-15.txt:17:48:47: <Taneb> I may make a language called brianfcuk just to confuse everyone -2011-10-19.txt:20:30:45: <Taneb> I may make a bot -2011-12-04.txt:00:05:01: <Taneb> Wow, I think I may actually be drunk -2011-12-12.txt:22:40:27: <HackEgo> 2011-07-11.txt:15:27:10: <Taneb> I may make an esolang based on football (soccer) -2012-02-09.txt:23:05:10: <Taneb> I may be wrong, but that's what it looks like -2012-02-18.txt:09:32:42: <Taneb> I may yet change the specifications of Luigi
--- a/paste/paste.20377 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,33 +0,0 @@ -2011-03-10.txt:21:12:42: <treederwright> is this a esoteric room -2011-03-10.txt:21:13:56: <treederwright> im new here, but i am a member of esoteric orders -2011-03-10.txt:21:14:12: <treederwright> is anyone here rosicrucian? -2011-03-10.txt:21:14:21: <treederwright> or a member of the tradition of the temple -2011-03-10.txt:21:15:37: <treederwright> im in the wrong area -2011-03-10.txt:21:15:42: <treederwright> this is for computer stuff -2011-03-10.txt:21:16:03: <treederwright> lol -2011-03-10.txt:21:16:29: <treederwright> i am just amazed at your funniness -2011-03-10.txt:21:16:42: <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-03-10.txt:21:16:47: <elliott> `addquote <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-03-10.txt:22:19:03: <elliott> `addquote <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-03-10.txt:22:22:28: <elliott> `addquote <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-03-10.txt:22:22:29: <HackEgo> 330) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-04-08.txt:22:25:05: <HackEgo> 330) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-05-15.txt:19:32:48: <HackEgo> 329) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-05-16.txt:16:57:38: <HackEgo> 329) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-05-18.txt:20:14:57: <HackEgo> 329) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-10-19.txt:19:14:01: <HackEgo> 316) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-11-03.txt:18:46:53: <HackEgo> 303) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-11-10.txt:11:01:34: <HackEgo> 303) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-11-10.txt:22:50:07: <HackEgo> 301) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-12-11.txt:22:58:11: <HackEgo> 299) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-12-11.txt:23:22:40: <elliott> 2011-03-10.txt:22:22:29: <HackEgo> 330) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-12-24.txt:01:18:49: <HackEgo> 299) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-01-04.txt:20:09:16: <HackEgo> 299) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-02-12.txt:23:46:04: <HackEgo> 80) <fedoragirl> My mascot is a tree of broccoli. \ 259) <zzo38> ais523: Maybe it is better, because I don't think the octopus will live very well in the tree. But the difference is that the Internet is lying and you cannot see such things; you could make modified picture, though, in order to lie more clearly, at least. \ 296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity \ 708) <Phantom__Hoover> -2012-02-16.txt:19:48:47: <HackEgo> 296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-02-16.txt:19:50:34: <HackEgo> 296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-02-21.txt:19:46:48: <HackEgo> 296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-02-21.txt:20:05:15: <HackEgo> 296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-02-26.txt:01:30:00: <itidus21> It really helps a lot when someone just blurts out an incomprehensible soundbyte like <treederwright> enjoy your matrix of solidarity -2012-02-26.txt:01:36:21: <HackEgo> 296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-03-23.txt:19:23:24: <HackEgo> 294) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity
--- a/paste/paste.21896 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,27 +0,0 @@ -2011-09-23.txt:20:55:04: <Ngevd> I may start Uniquode again -2011-09-28.txt:19:00:17: <Ngevd> I may make a language designed to compile into BytePusher -2011-09-28.txt:20:26:25: <Ngevd> I may design a REDICULOUSLY COMPLEX INSTRUCTION SET COMPUTER -2011-10-04.txt:19:24:42: <Ngevd> I may make it fixed length at write-time -2011-10-04.txt:20:37:46: <Ngevd> I may try to write a Fibonacci numbers thing in Brook -2011-10-10.txt:15:40:36: <Ngevd> I may have broken the law -2011-10-13.txt:13:37:10: <Ngevd> I may make Uniquode actually usable -2011-10-23.txt:10:30:42: <Ngevd> I may make an esolang called K-Li -2011-11-01.txt:21:13:41: <Ngevd> I may create a cellular automaton -2011-11-01.txt:21:25:47: <Phantom_Hoover> <Ngevd> I may create a cellular automaton -2011-11-01.txt:22:14:41: <Ngevd> I think I may have a finite Morphy number -2011-11-01.txt:22:35:09: <Ngevd> I think I may have a lower than average Morphy number -2011-11-14.txt:00:00:12: <Ngevd> I may make a Piet-like language with pure functions -2011-11-15.txt:15:19:15: <Ngevd> On a not entirely unrelated note, I think I may have thought of a brilliant way to do XSLT S and K -2011-11-17.txt:17:24:38: <Ngevd> I may rewrite Homestuck as a epic poem -2011-11-26.txt:20:34:59: <Ngevd> I may design a visual language designed for implementation of esoteric programming languages -2011-12-03.txt:09:37:10: <Ngevd> I may start AAARGH -2011-12-03.txt:09:37:19: <Ngevd> DO'T SAY "I may"!!! -2011-12-11.txt:15:58:15: <Ngevd> During that, I think I may have worked out a way to do rudimentary arithmetic -2011-12-12.txt:22:39:34: <Ngevd> I'm not going to stop until I can search through the logs for me saying "I may" and can say, "I did!" -2011-12-12.txt:22:40:18: <HackEgo> 2011-12-11.txt:15:58:15: <Ngevd> During that, I think I may have worked out a way to do rudimentary arithmetic -2011-12-12.txt:22:53:18: <Ngevd> `log Ngevd> .*I may -2011-12-12.txt:22:53:28: <Ngevd> `log Ngevd> .*I may -2011-12-12.txt:22:53:34: <HackEgo> 2011-10-04.txt:20:37:46: <Ngevd> I may try to write a Fibonacci numbers thing in Brook -2011-12-21.txt:21:58:30: <Ngevd> Heh, my first "I may" was on that first day -2012-02-01.txt:19:46:04: <Ngevd> It's been over a minute, I suspect I may have lost connection -2012-02-24.txt:11:50:50: <Ngevd> I may have killed zzo38
--- a/paste/paste.23607 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,14 +0,0 @@ -2011-11-03.txt:19:56:18: <ais523\unfoog> Vorpal: Web of Lies -2011-11-03.txt:19:56:45: <ais523\unfoog> but Web of Lies is a great name -2011-11-03.txt:21:18:16: <elliott> /* Timestamps. This stores the initial timestamp, in Web of Lies' -2011-11-04.txt:03:41:14: <elliott> At this rate it looks like I'm gonna have to steal Web of Lies' architecture-specific syscall-overriding code... -2011-11-04.txt:04:17:04: <elliott> Gregor: Have I mentioned Web of Lies does cooperative scheduling by overriding every single syscall to schedule -2011-11-04.txt:09:38:42: <elliott> I haven't got Web of Lies to work, but this is my cheap LD_PRELOAD version of the clock hack -2011-11-04.txt:09:48:01: <elliott> note: it was "sudo ./weboflies true"; true is 64-bit, but I tried it on Web of Lies itself and it still failed, so I suspect it's a generic problem -2011-11-04.txt:09:53:42: <elliott> because web of lies runs as root -2011-11-04.txt:10:00:11: <elliott> then it dumps me at the web of lies console -2011-11-05.txt:18:13:46: <ais523> btw, people experimenting with Web of Lies, did you come to any conclusions but "it doesn't run on modern Linux"? -2011-11-08.txt:21:06:36: <ais523> btw, does anyone have any feedback on Web of Lies yet? -2011-11-28.txt:21:26:39: <ais523> Web of Lies gives you a really good idea of how syscall-bound a program is -2011-12-15.txt:19:39:12: <ais523> Vorpal: one of the few things in the "deliberately unsupported because I can't figure out wtf effect it would have" list in Web of Lies -2012-03-04.txt:19:21:24: <ais523> I think I fixed the permissions problem in Web of Lies, anyway
--- a/paste/paste.23910 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,17 +0,0 @@ -2011-01-28.txt:21:06:45: <Phantom_Hoover> ais523, PREPARE FOR BRICKBRAINNESS -2011-01-28.txt:23:45:48: <Phantom_Hoover> I want to brickbrain the person who posted it. -2011-05-16.txt:13:00:13: * Phantom_Hoover brickbrains oerjan, moves onto ais523 before realising he is out of bricks. -2011-05-16.txt:21:55:28: * Phantom__Hoover brickbrains Sgeo. -2011-06-21.txt:19:27:16: <Phantom_Hoover> Unfortunately I will have to brickbrain you before you can go any further. This is good, keep it up! -2011-07-11.txt:13:38:43: <Phantom_Hoover> Well, you seem moderately nice, so I won't brickbrain you. -2011-07-11.txt:13:57:58: <Phantom_Hoover> Taneb, yes, except brickbraining those people is pointless because it would just make their brain slightly harder. -2011-08-05.txt:23:53:08: * Phantom_Hoover brickbrain Lymee -2011-11-07.txt:19:51:52: <Phantom_Hoover> olsner, readying it for some brickbrainin'. -2011-11-09.txt:06:33:57: <elliott> And delegate the brickbraining to me. -2011-11-20.txt:14:49:20: <elliott_> I don't think it's ever been proven that the brickbraining procedure is fatal. -2011-11-20.txt:14:52:02: <Taneb|Hovercraft> Hoover's conjecture: the brickbraining is not fatal -2011-12-11.txt:18:33:25: <Phantom__Hoover> Ngevd, THAT SOUNDS LIKE BRICKBRAINING TALK -2012-01-05.txt:10:58:32: <elliott> He's going to brickbrain himself -2012-02-25.txt:11:28:07: <Taneb> Good luck being brickbrained by Phantom Hoover -2012-02-25.txt:12:00:52: <mRoman> brickbrained? -2012-02-25.txt:12:37:58: <fizzie> `pastelog brickbrain
--- a/paste/paste.23986 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,301 +0,0 @@ -2003-07-25.txt:08:26:42: <andreou`work> the company is a start-up, so everyone does everything they know. they only know how to code, but i also administer the servers. -2003-07-28.txt:02:15:18: <andreou> For my personal history, over the years I've competed in and taught nightclub type dancing, surfed professionally and owned a surfboard company, competed in and coached both wrestling and tennis, become a real rocket scientist and a computer nerd, gotten five college degrees, acquired a teaching credential, hob-nobbed with many famous people, written several books (most are technical but one is on surfing and one is on Sombo - a form of martial arts), be -2003-09-08.txt:13:45:54: <Doppelganger> wn, web1913, and devils resipiency: web1913: Extramurals \Es`o*ter"ic\, a. Marked by shkewers our prefacies; pravidance; sloughed; campdens; as, an extremely perhaps; am extremities mating; wn: easterlings atack : company to and under by only an emulously inher circling; "a complet of ester polikoff's tarries" [ant: {exoteric}]; web1913: Easterly \Es`o*ter"ic\, no. (3 more messages) -2004-01-22.txt:03:00:20: <lament> (to accompany a flying arrow, no less) -2004-05-24.txt:00:32:42: <Toreun> it doesn't... it just follows stock market principles. it's basically like each blog is a company, and people trade shares of blogs -2004-05-30.txt:19:37:43: <Keymaker> yes, it wakes up and sues every other company and coder >:) -2004-06-28.txt:02:22:58: <Toreun> well if it's a bug in the hardware, call up the company -2004-06-28.txt:02:23:29: <WildHalcyon_> Im not sure which company to call... motherboard? graphics card? memory? -2004-07-17.txt:22:55:48: <tonsofpcs> ya, the same company made them i think -2005-03-05.txt:13:53:52: <{^Raven^}> i'd like to see a for-profit BrainFuck company ;) that would be something -2005-05-05.txt:16:34:29: <pgimeno> this damn hosting company doesn't allow subdomains -2005-05-08.txt:19:56:05: <Keymaker> hmmm, there's some field for organization or company, -2005-05-10.txt:20:21:36: <pgimeno> it's actually a company's name but who cares -2005-05-12.txt:19:29:40: <pgimeno> my domain is from a company, it can be moved but never deleted -2005-05-12.txt:19:30:22: <kipple> and what if the company goes under? or changes it's name? -2005-05-21.txt:13:44:06: <CXI> (except because wikimedia is non-profit and this is an ad-supported service they rolled out another essentially identical company for it) -2005-05-28.txt:05:40:36: <graue> sourceforge was developed by a company, they own it, and they are now trying to sell the "enterprise edition" of it to other companies for obscene amounts of money -2005-05-28.txt:05:42:57: <graue> no company is going to buy sourceforge enterprise edition because of your site, so don't worry about it -2005-06-17.txt:10:33:10: <pgimeno> I think that Mller is now working for a company offering a search engine -2005-06-22.txt:23:11:54: <calamari> nope. I need to get off actually, company came to the door :) -2005-06-28.txt:22:43:03: <jimbo00000> Gentlemen, it has been a pleasure to be in such esteemed company. Have an excellent evening. -2005-07-21.txt:23:14:09: <fizzie> Uh, it's a small company (physically in Teknologiakyl, Otaniemi, the ugly barracks near Innopoli) doing generally music-related edutainment things for x86/win32 platforms. It's horribly uninteresting, and I only do it _very_ part-timely to pay the rent. :p -2005-09-08.txt:23:15:57: <Aardwolf> I'm looking to have some webscpace once my univ page is gone, but I'll look for a Belgian company I think :) -2005-10-06.txt:04:46:36: <WildHalcyon_> I had no clue, to be honest. My efforts to research the 'company' didnt really google anything conclusive, except that they might be accountants. They're not, btw. -2005-10-06.txt:04:51:14: <WildHalcyon_> Im familiar with the company and "multi-level marketing" associated with it -2005-10-06.txt:05:04:27: <WildHalcyon_> Hey gs30, sorry Ive been researching my fraudulent company some more -2005-10-24.txt:22:53:08: <graue> I've heard those processors from that VIA company are really cool (literally) -2005-11-08.txt:00:55:37: <calamari> the company I was working for at the time blocked download of "executables".. so I couldn't resist :) -2005-12-14.txt:09:51:16: <handongseong> too tiresome to deal with people asking me what's wrong with me and that convenience store company, again and again -2006-01-24.txt:19:51:01: <fizzie> "C/o or Care of, used to address a letter when the letter must pass through an intermediary (for example, "John Smith, c/o the Universal Widget Company" (where the Universal Widget Company is the intermediary)." -2006-04-06.txt:17:35:06: <jix> i work in a company for 2 weeks -2006-04-06.txt:17:39:24: <nooga> you work for a company? -2006-04-06.txt:17:41:05: <jix> but in grade 9 or 10 we work in a company for 2 weeks -2006-04-26.txt:06:53:26: <nooga> well, i've been quite bussy, i'm working for a webdesign company now -2006-04-28.txt:22:30:01: <kate`> (partially since i work for a digital signage company) -2006-04-28.txt:22:30:32: <GregorR-W> kate`: Digital signage company? -2006-04-28.txt:22:36:58: <kate`> i think using R for demographic analaysis is about as exciting as that company gets -2006-06-24.txt:22:40:25: <_W_> Pfizer, Inc. (stock symbol) Pacific Fruit Express Company Packet Filtering Engine -2006-07-24.txt:17:12:57: <kipple> that leads to a hosting company for me -2006-07-24.txt:17:13:30: <GregorR-W> My hosting company. -2006-07-26.txt:20:33:17: <pgimeno> for unix and company -2006-08-01.txt:16:14:34: <GregorR-W> The bus company charged me $288 with the message "cannot contact bank" -2006-08-23.txt:16:06:07: <GregorR-W> Yaaay company bandwidth! -2006-09-23.txt:12:00:39: <SimonRC> "One to actually change the lightbulb, and twenty to make up the accompanying lightbulb jokes." -2006-10-15.txt:19:30:18: <SimonRC> particularly read the bit about the company "RunTCP" -2006-11-04.txt:01:34:40: * oerjan feels like he has one foot in the grave in this company. -2006-12-02.txt:20:13:18: <SimonRC> As PG puts it: "If Lenin walked around the offices of a company like Yahoo or Intel or Cisco, he'd think communism had won. Everyone would be wearing the same clothes, have the same kind of office (or rather, cubicle) with the same furnishings, and address one another by their first names instead of by honorifics. Everything would seem exactly as he'd predicted, until he looked at their bank accounts. Oops." -2007-01-02.txt:08:22:18: <pikhq> In conclusion: We should just let the RIAA's recent decision to sue a front company for the Russian mafia take its course. -2007-02-09.txt:19:40:56: <SimonRC> I mean, every time the ad is watched the company benefits, and they don't charge for it, so it is quite tough to object. -2007-02-20.txt:16:34:35: <GregorR> SimonRC: He's really just a programmer using a class of students to cheat for his company :P -2007-03-16.txt:21:04:27: <GregorR> Their interaction with the F/OSS community has been incredibly dishonest and immoral, carefully crafted to make naive people think they're a F/OSS-supporting company. -2007-03-19.txt:18:51:02: <ais523> the little TM that you put at the end of something to show it's a company or if you're just being ironic -2007-03-27.txt:03:23:44: <oerjan> of course when doing this as a "family" puzzle some of the point is to know the most operations, but I think in present company that constitutes overkill -2007-03-31.txt:21:38:52: <SimonRC> In the sense of people setting up a site with the company's name that looks like an official site -2007-04-14.txt:20:55:39: <lament> the company i'm working for -2007-04-15.txt:07:33:56: <RodgerTheGreat> as an individual, I freely give away most of my tinkerings. However, as a company, I'd view any GPLed code as a liability- it's just a ticking time-bomb that can take away my ability to control what I make and profit fairly from my own work. -2007-05-05.txt:03:57:11: <bsmntbombdood> Or a better power company -2007-05-14.txt:23:43:39: <SimonRC> '(semiautomtic aqua accompany slacks) -2007-05-20.txt:14:48:43: * SimonRC reads about a small company that has a 2:1 manager:developer ratio. -2007-07-07.txt:23:01:35: <oerjan> oklopol: pressing the button makes it go towards the accompanying swarm -2007-07-14.txt:00:13:47: <lament> (the main character holds a high position in a shoemaking company) -2007-07-22.txt:02:57:19: <oklopol> i assume it's a company -2007-07-26.txt:23:17:07: <test_> very friendly company -2007-07-31.txt:18:45:42: <ehird`> Sukoshi, A) boo hoo, one company is the source of all evil and can do no good, even if two parts are completely unrelated B) it's standardised by ECMA. by your logic, JavaScript is not open. C) So what? -2007-07-31.txt:18:58:22: <RodgerTheGreat> well, they're doing well with their Xbox arm, even though that segment of the company has operated at a continuous loss as long as it's been in existence. It's an example of Microsoft realizing there's something much more valuable than money- mindshare. -2007-07-31.txt:19:01:34: <RodgerTheGreat> an arm of a company. it's a metaphor. -2007-08-07.txt:16:42:42: <SimonRC> sounds like a frikkin' insurance company phone number -2007-08-07.txt:18:08:30: <ehird`> It's a very dynamic company; the bosses just come and go. -2007-08-18.txt:19:25:51: <SimonRC> (which is waht a certain company's keyboards feel like) -2007-08-29.txt:03:14:24: <bsmntbombdood> i have to write a letter to a pencil company telling them how great their pencils are -2007-08-29.txt:21:48:20: <SimonRC> "Falcon Broadband, Inc. was started in 2003 in Colorado Springs, CO. We are a locally owned and operated company." -2007-09-05.txt:23:36:56: <oklopol> "the turku cable tv company" if you couldn't decipher, that's prolly where this connection is from -2007-09-25.txt:05:11:15: <RodgerTheGreat> we have a lot of friction going on because we have a community half and a company half. -2007-09-27.txt:02:31:32: <oklopol> we should start arranging uberman orgies! "start uberman's through a week of hot steamy sex in good company!" -2007-10-03.txt:16:30:00: <ehird`> no other game company that i know does that -2007-10-03.txt:16:37:04: <RodgerTheGreat> Stealing from the company that invested time and money to design the car, perhaps -2007-10-10.txt:19:49:07: <SimonRC> Well, the company seems rather nice -2007-10-10.txt:19:51:20: <GregorR> They're such a good company, they can make 'R' a hexadecimal digit? -2007-10-14.txt:20:22:53: <oerjan> i thought it was a tire trademark/company -2007-10-23.txt:11:33:43: <StapleGun_> yea, id be a full time linux user if i could get game maker to run on linux ... that and company of heroes -2007-10-24.txt:02:53:56: <schad> well, i wud use linux, but i cant get company of heroes to run on it -2007-10-25.txt:20:22:03: <jix> and he runs the company my previous math teacher works at now -2007-11-05.txt:21:19:08: <ehird`> GregorR: an IRC client, written in python, with accompanying irc lib lycus -2008-01-18.txt:20:19:31: <Slereah> Are there any company that will send snailmails containing some text automatically? -2008-01-28.txt:19:00:18: <UnrelatedToQaz> Who's BP? The fuel company? -2008-02-04.txt:20:43:18: <ehird`> ... and unless you found your own company and make loads of money selling enterprise-level database systems! -2008-02-12.txt:02:29:58: <RodgerTheGreat> http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/06/writestuff.html?page=0%2C0 -2008-02-20.txt:03:46:16: <oklopol> We are all gathered here to take a glance at the past three years we spent as a class. It was a journey of hard work, learning and self-discipline, but it was also about togetherness. There are some great stories, and even greater accomplishments, but I'll spare you from them. The end of high-school is the beginning of a new era for everyone, people get jobs and whatnot. Some go to university. Some just wither away in the absense of company and -2008-02-22.txt:17:49:39: <Slereah> They call themselves “hackers”, and their aim is to destroy every big company, everything that is conservative. I can’t tolerate this sort of persecution. The LORD himself was a conservative and he was nailed to a tree for it. It won’t be long before all of us are crucified too if Linux succeeds. -2008-02-23.txt:01:17:58: <Slereah> I've got monads to keep me company, don't worry. -2008-03-07.txt:23:31:48: <ais523|sl_busy> SimonRC: the one where a company had used JavaScript for authentication -2008-03-07.txt:23:32:25: <ais523|sl_busy> the amusing thing was that it appeared to be a scam company's website in the first place -2008-03-10.txt:23:03:42: <slereah_> I tried to find some punch card computer or something, but there's only one company that sells them, and it isn't cheap :o -2008-03-17.txt:22:36:15: * ais523 thinks that there are all types of people at Microsoft; the company itself is completely self-serving and acts in a way most of its employees dislike, but the employees themselves aren't all bad -2008-03-17.txt:22:36:39: <ais523> they're mostly just confounded by the company's rules to the point where they're not allowed to do nonevil things all that often -2008-03-17.txt:22:39:33: <AnMaster> but the company *IS* evil -2008-03-17.txt:22:39:51: <ais523> except I would have highlighted the word 'company' -2008-03-17.txt:22:41:04: <AnMaster> ehird, yes I would define evil as the microsoft company -2008-03-22.txt:01:11:40: * oerjan is reminded about the news tidbit about some japanese company who called their candy "dew dew" -2008-03-22.txt:01:12:53: <oerjan> otoh the Bonbon company around here seems to use that kind of naming for all their candy -2008-04-03.txt:17:25:46: <CakeProphet> does anyone want to start a life insurance company with me? I have a brilliant idea to defeat all competition. -2008-04-03.txt:17:29:30: <CakeProphet> so... when I start a life insurance company. -2008-04-03.txt:17:29:39: <CakeProphet> I am going to hire assassins to murder people who use other company's plans. -2008-04-03.txt:17:29:47: <CakeProphet> until the company's go out of business from having to pay out so much -2008-04-03.txt:17:33:39: <ais523> break into a company that makes cars, and alter the firmware so you can cause large-scale accidents remotely -2008-04-07.txt:21:24:48: <SimonRC> # Enemy lasagna / Robust below wax / Semiautomatic aqua / Accompany slacks / ... # -2008-04-12.txt:15:59:02: <AnMaster> why not mail the company and ask which one it is -2008-05-08.txt:18:03:33: <ehird> http://www.gemstone.com/ this is a better smalltalk company ;) -2008-05-21.txt:22:22:42: <ehird> GregorR: it'd be funny to find a nic running at companyname.tld that lets you reg nic.tld though -2008-06-05.txt:19:58:29: <tusho> lament: it's a company and they're primarily out to make money. -2008-06-05.txt:20:00:03: <tusho> out of the interests of keeping a company's hands off of this channel, and because it's not a very good service in my mind anyway. -2008-06-07.txt:22:38:44: <tusho> Slereah: And then turned into a HASKELL COMPANY -2008-06-12.txt:21:53:06: <SimonRC> if I found that someone was relying on that bit of the spec in production code I would suspect them of trying to sabotage the company -2008-06-12.txt:22:35:57: <Slereah7> This man was probably not loved much in his company. -2008-06-13.txt:16:16:09: <oerjan> and it _does_ appear in some japanese company names -2008-06-15.txt:17:51:00: <ais523> I think the company itself may have become sentient -2008-06-15.txt:17:54:55: <SimonRC> (I justify my company's work by saying that we're a service company, not a product company) -2008-06-15.txt:17:55:09: <ais523> SimonRC: what does your company do? -2008-06-21.txt:21:33:55: <SimonRC> that reminds me: I managed to break my company's primary SVN repos a few days back. -2008-07-02.txt:00:47:02: <GregorR> AnMaster: Very, very few languages have multiple frontends. C++ has two, most of the commercial ones license the frontend from a single company. -2008-07-02.txt:23:49:02: <GregorR> AnMaster: I lucked out on a pair of totally-synthetic-leather-free vegan shoes, and before that there was one company that sold non-chromium-tanned leather shoes. -2008-07-08.txt:16:23:14: <tusho> it's from the same company that makes Passenger -2008-07-13.txt:21:52:11: <oerjan> (the scandinavian parts are licensed to a company (Reitan group) based here in trondheim) -2008-07-19.txt:02:29:45: <oerjan> 2's company -2008-07-21.txt:21:57:00: <AnMaster> Program and/or Extension Function [What's This?] Company [What's This?] -2008-07-21.txt:21:57:14: <AnMaster> Program and/or Extension Function [What's This?] Company [What's This?] -2008-07-31.txt:10:22:56: <tusho> and we went onto the site and it was a spidering bot for a company saying they were 'reinventing search' blah blah blah -2008-07-31.txt:10:48:53: <tusho> {The company says it's attempting to tag each search result with an image "that will help people visually check whether the result is something they want to click on."} -2008-07-31.txt:21:07:01: <SimonRC> I am sure the occasional ridiculous images are helping that company -2008-07-31.txt:22:12:16: * oerjan wonders why people trust a company that obviously has Lex Luthor as CEO... -2008-08-01.txt:15:41:54: <ais523> oh for a moment I thought pikhq was referring to the parcel company -2008-08-08.txt:21:54:49: <AnMaster> company* -2008-08-08.txt:21:56:31: <ais523> I think BBC Micro was related at least tangentially to the broadcasting company, partly because BBC Micro Mode 7 uses the same terminal-control language as Teletext uses -2008-08-12.txt:22:13:44: <psygnisfive> metaweb is a company :) -2008-08-16.txt:00:38:21: <psygnisfive> i want to have a porn company some day -2008-08-19.txt:00:28:14: <tusho> [[True story, I swear: Major software company in Andalusia. A mate of mine is coding using vi. His supervisor walks up behind him and after spying over his shoulder for a couple of minutes, interrupts his work and demands to know what he's doing. "Coding." "But you must use Word." She says. "Why?" "Well, it has a lot of advantages. For example the 'undo' function..."]] -- reddit comment -2008-08-27.txt:18:44:04: <tusho> because they are the worst company ever -2008-08-27.txt:18:45:51: <tusho> anyway, microsoft are not this huge, wholly incompetent company -2008-08-27.txt:18:46:15: <tusho> mostly, microsoft are a good, respectable company -2008-08-27.txt:18:46:48: <lament> it's a gigantic company suffering from mismanagement and lack of direction -2008-08-27.txt:18:47:28: <ais523> the problem, I find, is that the company itself tends to come up with evil things none of its employees agree with -2008-08-27.txt:18:49:26: <ais523> the other one works for a big company too, maybe IBM but I'm not sure -2008-08-30.txt:22:11:22: <tusho> that is the whole point of a company -2008-08-31.txt:12:45:19: <tusho> AnMaster: OH NO A COMPANY IS PROTECTING THEIR EFFORTS -2008-08-31.txt:13:22:40: <tusho> and you'll get paid by a company called Xirian (pronounced Zirian) or something like that, to work on oklotalk all the time -2008-09-02.txt:12:42:14: <ais523> it doesn't look like the work of a reputable company -2008-09-09.txt:22:08:56: <tusho> One airline company does, I believe. -2008-09-09.txt:22:40:59: <ais523> which is like this one, except a lot smaller, Microsoft are a hardware company that supports Linux, and everything runs INTERCAL except for a few weirdos discussing languages like C and Java -2008-09-18.txt:14:43:52: <tusho> because they are a hardware company -2008-09-18.txt:14:44:06: <AnMaster> well they would make more money as a software company I suspect -2008-09-18.txt:14:45:04: <tusho> they're a hardware company that makes their money because of their software -2008-09-21.txt:02:47:58: <GregorR> "He planned to leave his vast riches to you, but due to a typo in the will it's been given to somebody with an extremely similar name ... the company he bought the will from had a money-back guarantee however, so here's $39.95." -2008-09-22.txt:21:46:41: <ais523> company's email address cannot be protected by the (tm) comment correctly. -2008-09-23.txt:20:19:19: <tusho> I know i'd trust an established openid host by the company that created openid and is endorsed by tons of people & organizations -2008-09-23.txt:20:19:47: <AnMaster> tusho, a company can go bankrupt -2008-09-28.txt:18:57:55: <ais523> well, a standard entirely created by one company is suspicious -2008-09-28.txt:19:56:56: <oerjan> 'TTC - Stands for "The TTC Company"' -2008-09-28.txt:21:23:22: <oerjan> hm indee is a record company -2008-10-06.txt:11:38:14: <ais523> generally speaking one company will write imperative VHDL -2008-10-06.txt:11:38:48: <ais523> and another company will compile it by hand to VHDL that compiles to hardware -2008-10-09.txt:19:33:48: <ehird> its just the same company -2008-10-09.txt:22:18:12: <ais523> and I think the water's split up by water company here, rather than by city size -2008-10-13.txt:19:20:36: <AnMaster> also it seems it is a one man company, says so on front page -2008-10-15.txt:16:37:20: <fizzie> Hey, you are all probably experts in this field: I have this plate made out of "compound marble" (a sort of marble/plastic composite material, apparently) and I need two circular holes in it (with diameters of 34 and 45 mm). Where can I find a company (in Finland, preferrably Espoo) that can make me such holes? -2008-10-16.txt:14:10:39: <AnMaster> I never heard of that insurance company before now... -2008-10-16.txt:21:18:03: <fizzie> (The company was Nokia; you may have heard of it.) -2008-10-16.txt:21:20:29: <fizzie> Okay, I guess most people know that, but it's an old joke that Finland's most successful company has a faux-Japanese-sounding name.) -2008-10-16.txt:21:23:49: <fizzie> The tires and boots were part of the same Nokia company back then in the 1960s. -2008-10-17.txt:13:15:35: <ais523> between Apple the record company and Apple the computer company -2008-10-17.txt:13:15:52: <ais523> the record company claim the computer company started to breach their trademark when they released the iPod -2008-10-17.txt:14:08:42: <ais523> the management lecturer last year was actually quite good though, he tought me accounting and company law -2008-10-18.txt:18:15:09: <ehird> is more important to a person than the fact that it's a company called foobar -2008-10-19.txt:15:45:54: <oerjan> ooh, you could have a company policy that said you had to use all colors balancedly... -2008-10-19.txt:18:20:53: <fungot> Asztal: madam president, mr posselt, let me say that we should take the decision we need to look at the simple trend, i have one difficulty which is not covered by specific community legislation, so ias can only be achieved by applying lower rates of growth, employment and the unwieldiness of the procedures, favouring a more competitive and makes his company more competitive. everyone agrees on that, are dying as a result of ad -2008-10-20.txt:20:52:36: <fungot> oerjan: the cygwin page does say programs need to work much better.) originally developed by miller puckette and company at fnord. -2008-10-22.txt:00:56:49: <lament> it's a clothing company -2008-10-23.txt:23:11:35: <fungot> AnMaster: the constant use of " coup" here is simply incorrect. first uncertainty can be incorporated into the section on company officers, but it states there that the ep peaked at 2 ' ' fnord -2008-10-24.txt:21:06:21: <fizzie> Yes, I guess I could add some sort of funge-space fetch commands to accompany ^code. Not sure if I'll bother, though. -2008-11-03.txt:13:55:25: <AnMaster> if Forest is a company that is -2008-11-05.txt:22:01:14: <AnMaster> ehird, yes for internally using it in a company it makes sense -2008-11-08.txt:01:41:51: <fizzie> And the company providing the cruise ship for today's celebrationationary things started their pre-christmas cruise offering on September 15th; now *that* would've been very pre. -2008-11-20.txt:17:37:14: <GregorR> Shit, my hosting company is not going to be happy with me :P -2008-11-25.txt:14:53:54: <ehird> Dear Sir, We are top ranked web Development Company from India having vast set of experience in development and designing of complex solutions. We have well trained and experienced developers and programmers specialized in different technologies. Please find the details with PMB along with Project execution plan. Thank you, Tech-Sters.. -2008-11-27.txt:01:26:26: <oklopol> pwnage inside a small group like a company is trivial, the hard part is being better than all the savants with some kinda mental issues out there. -2008-11-27.txt:14:13:50: <ehird> it's the company steve jobs made when he was fired from apple -2008-12-04.txt:13:24:43: <ehird> the people who wrote it are #haskell regulars and stuff, some work at galois (company thing that uses haskell). -2008-12-06.txt:20:05:31: <zuff> AnMaster: Apple is a hardware company, except its hardware only sells because of its software. -2008-12-07.txt:16:05:55: <SimonRC> GregorR: I have seen a better comment in some code at my company. "// always interested in children" -2008-12-25.txt:17:08:44: <ais523|direct> mib_vvzkm4: you are going to put their copyright notice in the materials accompanying the distribution, right? -2009-01-09.txt:17:43:00: <AnMaster> well, what about work? Either rich enough to not need it or the company sponsors this, or something else -2009-01-12.txt:16:12:32: <jix> well but from what i can imagine the IT work a heizungsableser-company needs isn't that interesting -2009-01-12.txt:16:12:44: <flexo> not for the company -2009-01-12.txt:18:37:51: <oerjan> i think you need a registered norwegian company -2009-01-13.txt:21:59:06: <ehird> yes. email a security company. -2009-01-14.txt:16:59:47: <ehird> The people on the Tubes must chip in and make an alternative to You Tube, it's not that expensive. The company must be based somewhere outside USA and it should be owned by at least 1 Mil guys so it will be never sold to any big company. -2009-01-14.txt:17:46:30: <ais523> it's pretty amazing that a genuine company has a whole esolang win -2009-01-18.txt:21:23:25: <ais523> they got the domain free with the company -2009-02-14.txt:23:15:45: <ehird> [[The folks at Ryka, a manufacturer of women's shoes, wanted to be certain that no potential customers could be excluded. Thus, rather than providing option (or radio) buttons to indicate one's gender, they decided to use checkboxes, to allow the potential customer to indicate Male, Female, or, well, both, and for that matter, none. We found this especially interesting given the company motto, "Exclusively for women by women." Inclusiveness must be "in".]] -2009-02-14.txt:23:17:03: <ehird> the company doesn't need to know my gender, so stop trying to dat amine -2009-02-17.txt:21:56:34: <ehird> how do you know the electricity company isn't monitoring your secret files -2009-02-18.txt:16:52:03: <ehird> well, if you're in the 80s and a company, you make yer own damn chip -2009-02-20.txt:16:58:35: <ehird> should team up with a cryonics company -2009-02-21.txt:21:26:20: <ehird> i can understand why a company would take them out in the current corporateosphere, but they shouldn't even exist -2009-02-22.txt:00:07:19: <ehird> it's just a lifeless shell of a company -2009-03-06.txt:13:39:57: <fizzie> I, uh... let's see if I can find the other, accompanying picture first. -2009-03-06.txt:13:42:49: <fizzie> oklopol: http://zem.fi/~fis/slide3pic3.jpg is the accompanying picture. -2009-03-07.txt:21:31:07: <oklopol> it's a short snippet, esoteric ideas will usually sound crappier without company. -2009-03-08.txt:07:52:43: <zzo38> Yes I did but I am writing software and specifications more a bit, and then one day I need to get a computer hardware and stuff, and then I can write the software more, testing it, make a company, and a few more things, make manual, etc, and then it will be complete. -2009-03-11.txt:19:27:11: <AnMaster> ehird, the company is Scandinavian to begin with. -2009-03-11.txt:22:45:57: <AnMaster> is that trailer made by the company or as a joke by someone else? -2009-03-11.txt:22:46:04: <ehird> company -2009-03-11.txt:22:46:55: <AnMaster> what is this company? -2009-03-12.txt:15:02:17: <fizzie> Granted, that's the only big-company example I can think of right now. -2009-03-12.txt:15:34:07: <asiekierk> not Apple Blue as in the company -2009-03-12.txt:15:47:03: <ais523> and used it to spam themself, and DDOS a company they had a prior arrangement with -2009-03-12.txt:15:47:47: <ais523> as in the UK TV company -2009-03-12.txt:16:17:18: <ehird> By prior agreement, Click launched a Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attack on a backup site owned by security company Prevx. -2009-03-12.txt:16:18:25: <AnMaster> "By prior agreement, Click launched a Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attack on a backup site owned by security company Prevx. " -2009-03-12.txt:16:19:04: <ehird> the bbc are admitting they ddosed a security company -2009-03-12.txt:16:19:19: <ais523> ehird: but the security company said they could -2009-03-12.txt:16:19:46: <ehird> 15:17 ehird: By prior agreement, Click launched a Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attack on a backup site owned by security company Prevx. -2009-03-14.txt:23:44:30: <ehird> "Okay this is subjective because it depends on your definition of large. When I say large, I mean about 6 gigs or so. Because your company's source tree is probably that large." -2009-03-14.txt:23:44:34: <ehird> That is one shit company. -2009-03-22.txt:19:56:56: <ehird> We are a super stealthy Hollywood, CA, tech startup located in the penthouse offices of a loft-style building. We are in search of the rumored Delta Squad Developer who could fit all the ridiculous languages that our 12-person software company is looking for. -2009-03-24.txt:18:45:12: <ehird> http://e-texteditor.com/blog/2009/opencompany This is cool -2009-03-24.txt:18:59:02: <AnMaster> ehird, company still exists? -2009-03-24.txt:19:00:12: <AnMaster> ehird, yes I'm just surprised it isn't a left over web page of some company that went bust.. -2009-03-26.txt:16:36:41: <ehird> ais523: I'd put that as the company situation -2009-03-31.txt:17:34:41: <ehird> Same company -2009-03-31.txt:17:39:51: <fizzie> "F-Secure is historically related to FRISK Software International, a company based in Iceland, which publishes F-Prot antivirus. The original F-Prot conglomerate of Icelandic, Finnish and American computer antivirus researchers fell apart during the early 1990s and the resulting companies divided the global market." -2009-03-31.txt:20:21:37: <ais523> because the computers there are set to the company's homepage -2009-04-02.txt:16:47:10: <ehird> Normally a company would received 1208925819614629174706176 addresses to cover up to 65536 sites. -2009-04-03.txt:00:21:52: <ehird> Every company has bad times -2009-04-04.txt:22:07:32: <ehird> The company drew attention when it announced it was in talks with several United Kingdom ISPs to deliver targeted advertising based on user browsing habits by using deep packet inspection.[3] It is one of several companies developing behavioral targeting advertising systems, seeking deals with ISPs to enable them to analyse customers' websurfing habits in order to deliver targeted advertising to them. Others include NebuAd and Front Porch.[4] -2009-04-04.txt:22:11:03: <fizzie> AnMaster_ipv6: Finnish ISP. Well, a phone company. Something like that. -2009-04-04.txt:23:44:13: <oklopol> AnMaster_ipv6: well i was thinking you'd sit in a cubicle and make code for a big company -2009-04-05.txt:01:55:38: <kerlo> Magic: that game where one of the main ways to improve is by paying a certain company. -2009-04-08.txt:19:54:24: <ehird> by the company "Gigabyte" -2009-04-08.txt:20:03:35: <ehird> Well, the company's called GrowUp Japan. -2009-04-08.txt:20:03:48: <AnMaster> ehird, which is a silly name for a company -2009-04-08.txt:20:23:51: <asie[Virus]> ais523: Imagine it hits a big company. -2009-04-08.txt:22:29:25: <ehird> It's a custom-configured, built-to-ship PC bought from an internet-only company. -2009-04-08.txt:23:05:28: <ehird> AnMaster: Recommend a good monitor company? -2009-04-10.txt:08:03:31: <fizziet> Well, no, not alone, but my travelling company is sleeping. -2009-04-10.txt:08:04:02: <oklopol> fizziet: HOW CAN A WHOLE COMPANY SLEEP? -2009-04-10.txt:08:04:41: <fizziet> Obviously only a company that does not care about PROFIT MARGINS can sleep. -2009-04-10.txt:08:06:57: <oklopol> well night, this company'll sleep too, now -2009-04-10.txt:23:22:37: <ais523> it's official, but the joke was that Homelands was introduced by a rival company and Coldsnap was the actual third set in that block -2009-04-17.txt:03:26:36: <GregorR> Like walks for charity. A walk for charity is some company holding money for ransom until you walk a mile. -2009-04-19.txt:16:30:37: <ehird> "Is your company working on X-ray equipment, or anything that might endanger a human life? " -2009-04-19.txt:19:31:26: <pikhq> I'd love to, I really would. If the freaking phone company would offer ADSL here, I'd have it. -2009-04-20.txt:07:03:15: <GregorR> Hahahah @ the mouseover on xkcd 570: "Somewhere out there is a company that has actually figured out how to enlarge penises, and it's helpless to reach potential customers." -2009-04-20.txt:16:55:27: <ais523> I wonder what they'll do with the rest of the company? -2009-04-22.txt:19:02:48: <Deewiant> ehird: Er, you have a keyboard model you like but it's from the wrong company so you'll get a different one? Wtf? -2009-04-22.txt:19:08:43: <Deewiant> Monster Cable is a company? -2009-04-22.txt:19:08:49: <ehird> Yes. A scamster company. -2009-04-22.txt:19:56:16: <fizzie> For .fi you also need to be someone living in Finland, or a company/organization/foundation registered in the corresponding Finnish registry. -2009-04-22.txt:19:57:28: <fizzie> fu.fi is registered to "All You Need Finland Oy" ("Oy" being the company-suffix). -2009-04-23.txt:18:11:47: <oerjan> it's supposed to be the company name -2009-04-23.txt:18:12:35: <oerjan> or did he actually try an SQL injection on the norwegian company register? :D -2009-04-23.txt:21:52:23: <ehird> a book with accompanying soundtrack -2009-04-23.txt:22:16:25: <okloduk> i wonder if any big company has ever just decided to stop at the top. -2009-04-24.txt:16:49:49: <ehird> In 1999 Syse Data was converted to a limited liability company, and has since been trading under the name Syse Data AS[1]. As the names are so similar, searches for our company in the official Norwegian registry of just-about-anything (Brønnøysundregistrene) often resulted in potential customers looking up the wrong company. To prevent this confusion we recently changed the name of the old (non-LLC) company, and figured we'd use the opportunity for som -2009-04-24.txt:16:49:53: <ehird> The old company was renamed to: -2009-04-25.txt:20:44:14: <ehird> ais523: what company? -2009-04-26.txt:00:36:25: <ehird> "Microsoft created a loyal customer in me. I like their products, and I'm not ashamed to say it. They are just another company making software, and they happen to have the biggest market share. Why? Not because they're evil and sacrifice cats - it's because their operating system is the easiest and best to use, as evidenced by the entire fucking world" -2009-04-26.txt:18:26:38: * nooga works in a company where every employee has MS exems passed, certified experts, premium msdn shit available, VIP MS support -2009-04-28.txt:17:37:25: <ehird> AnMaster: evil deep packet inspection → targeted ads company -2009-04-29.txt:22:20:00: <ehird> Bytemark seems to load quite fast from the uk (since they're a uk company) and do ipv6, so that's the main competitor to prgmr for me atm -2009-05-02.txt:17:29:43: <AnMaster> ais523, where are they a company then -2009-05-02.txt:17:30:24: <ais523> the main server's in the UK, although that doesn't mean the company is of course -2009-05-02.txt:23:10:39: <ehird> it's chuck moore's new company -2009-05-03.txt:21:40:43: <ehird> bsmntbombdood: a company -2009-05-04.txt:01:30:03: <pikhq> AMD's existence for most of the company's history *has* depended on being cheaper than Intel chip, so *shrug*. -2009-05-06.txt:05:08:27: <pikhq> And the company ceases to exist. -2009-05-06.txt:05:09:09: <pikhq> GregorR: Chapter 11 means that the debtors and the company talk about how best for the company to get out of debt. -2009-05-09.txt:00:02:38: * oerjan googles the company name visible -2009-05-09.txt:21:24:10: <ehird> GregorR: A thought for you while I brb: ARMjs. From the Simple Gargantuan Gadgets (SGG) chip company; an early competitor to Ligence. -2009-05-09.txt:21:48:38: <ehird> 21:24 ehird: GregorR: A thought for you while I brb: ARMjs. From the Simple Gargantuan Gadgets (SGG) chip company; an early competitor to Ligence. -2009-05-10.txt:18:35:07: <asiekierka> yup, sounds like a network card company -2009-05-11.txt:16:59:34: <ehird> Deewiant: Dell's the first big company I've seen do it. -2009-05-11.txt:17:01:04: <AnMaster> I never said no big company would. Since I knew Apple used to. Though I probably said it was risky and I couldn't see why they did it. AND provided warrandy -2009-05-12.txt:18:11:39: <pikhq> Also, porting dietlibc to Solaris wouldn't help a nonfree software company any more. -2009-05-13.txt:17:49:09: <ehird> let's fine every company! -2009-05-13.txt:17:49:44: <ehird> let's declare being a company to be illegal :| -2009-05-14.txt:23:49:37: <ais523> nah, the entire company of Intel lives inside my computer -2009-05-14.txt:23:52:28: <ais523> yes, even if it is an improvement, it's not the sort of thing a company does when they're doing well -2009-05-15.txt:18:12:21: <ehird> Cons: price and the company who makes it -2009-05-15.txt:18:12:22: <ehird> Other Thoughts: stop and think seriously think about where intel gets their new technology from............... AMD. Intergrated memory controller and 64 bit technology both comes from AMD so for those who bash said company well your r-tarded. AMD holds the patents on the new Technology Intel uses and intel is trying to cancel AMD's right to make x86 cpu's so that means AMD pulls those rights from Intel so all of you who jumped aboard the i7 boat will sin -2009-05-16.txt:16:45:33: <ais523> the first time it tried, all it did was say that its location was in Edinborough, and which company hosted it -2009-05-16.txt:16:57:33: <ehird> so presumably it thinks MXLCIX is the stock symbol of a french company, awesome -2009-05-16.txt:22:35:07: <psygnisfive> or maybe a garlic hoare, given the company i keep here -2009-05-16.txt:22:38:37: <AnMaster> <psygnisfive> or maybe a garlic hoare, given the company i keep here -2009-05-17.txt:20:57:01: <fizzie> ehird: Oh, and the 110Mbps-down-5Mbps-up cable-TV-company/ISP is Welho, which is rather in the clueless group of ISPs, so I really don't think they do any IPv6 stuff or anything. -2009-05-18.txt:00:35:36: <pikhq> Except that my DVD-ROM drive comes from the same company. -2009-05-19.txt:17:38:12: <ais523> although company-academic, not university-academic -2009-05-19.txt:17:38:59: <ehird> ais523: yes, it's "company research" -2009-05-19.txt:19:45:05: <ehird> w/ accompanying software -2009-05-19.txt:19:50:39: <ais523> <Xilinx> (typical technology company homepage) -2009-05-19.txt:19:51:28: <ehird> that's a different FPGA company -[too many lines; stopping]
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--- a/paste/paste.24049 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,300 +0,0 @@ -2003-07-09.txt:03:34:23: <lament> And hq9+!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2003-07-30.txt:20:33:42: <lament> !!!!!!! -2004-05-04.txt:04:31:02: <heatsink> else: print "unknown comand!!111 AHR AHR U SUX0R" -2004-05-30.txt:17:17:58: <Keymaker> nNOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! -2004-12-02.txt:03:47:52: <lament> !!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:10: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:10: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:11: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:12: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:12: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:13: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:14: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:15: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:17: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-02-11.txt:15:42:03: <Keymaker> rhh.. i've waited for long to have some spare time, and now i can't get doing anything or get started doing anything. :( unfair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-02-27.txt:08:11:56: <Keymaker> aaaaarrrgghhhhh it's too strong! nooooooooooooo!!!!!!! -2005-03-07.txt:17:21:25: <Keymaker> {^Raven^}: fl0at is evlil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-03-09.txt:15:46:03: <Keymaker> and to anyone: PLEASE CHECK THE LBFC TOPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-03-30.txt:14:05:40: <Keymaker> NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-04-14.txt:17:50:39: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-04-15.txt:19:42:43: <Keymaker> yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-04-15.txt:19:42:46: <Keymaker> solved it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-04-18.txt:19:18:00: <Keymaker> annoying school work done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-04-19.txt:18:19:07: <Keymaker> and by the way, have you worked on the kipple interpreter? i wanna program in kipple!!!!!! -2005-05-05.txt:04:29:34: <GregorR> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-06.txt:07:54:37: <GregorR-L> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-06.txt:07:54:41: <GregorR-L> I MADE A QUINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 -2005-05-07.txt:03:16:21: <GregorR> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-07.txt:03:16:28: <GregorR> MY BF INTERPRETER (missing features) WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-11.txt:04:51:40: <Keymaker> but i wanna get coding!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-11.txt:05:15:36: <Keymaker> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-11.txt:05:30:44: <Keymaker> NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! -2005-05-12.txt:15:29:03: <Keymaker> i'm alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111 -2005-05-13.txt:14:05:40: <Keymaker> hahaha!!!!!!!! -2005-05-17.txt:19:48:33: <Keymaker> look, here they come again! power off!!!!11 YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-18.txt:23:33:20: <GregorR-L> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! -2005-05-18.txt:23:33:22: <GregorR-L> IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-24.txt:23:33:24: <graue> well, the problem then is, some jerk can just add a paragraph to a page and say "Everything on here is now (c) me all rights reserved, ha ha ha!!!!!" and infect the page with viral copyright -2005-05-25.txt:00:40:11: <GregorR> But the main would know it, and could put a big red banner on the page saying "THIS MIRROR IS DOWN!!!!!!!!" -2005-05-25.txt:07:37:11: <GregorR-L> ALL HAIL CPRESSEY!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-26.txt:00:26:28: <GregorR-L> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-27.txt:23:09:11: <Keymaker> i hate computers!!!!1 -2005-06-02.txt:19:52:32: <Keymaker> this channel is TOO active!!!!!! :p -2005-06-02.txt:19:53:03: <Keymaker> i don't have time to read them nor think about them!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-06-09.txt:22:22:31: <Keymaker> calamari: wow!!!!! -2005-06-12.txt:00:35:41: <Keymaker> but one shouldn't use other sizes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-06-13.txt:01:10:09: <GregorR> 00000000 becomes 11111111 becomes 00000001 -2005-06-13.txt:01:10:19: <GregorR> 00000001 becomes 11111110 --- never mind, I'm dumb. -2005-06-15.txt:20:06:51: <Keymaker> wow wow wow wow awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-06-15.txt:20:39:15: <Keymaker> RGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-06-18.txt:00:18:59: <Keymaker> i'll complain for weeks how stupid i am, when it's gone and i can read from web how scooter fans say "AWESOME GIG!!!!!" -2005-06-18.txt:00:43:39: <Keymaker> aargh seagulls!!!!!! -2005-06-25.txt:23:45:05: <Keymaker> d'oh!!!!!! -2005-06-26.txt:23:30:19: <Keymaker> yeah, everything can be done with brainfuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-16.txt:14:05:28: <Keymaker> YEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-20.txt:19:33:27: <Keymaker> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrghhhh!!!!! -2005-07-20.txt:21:44:01: <GregorR> Everyone!!!!!!! :P -2005-07-23.txt:08:36:01: <GregorR> YES!!!!! -2005-07-24.txt:09:29:37: <GregorR> YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-26.txt:03:17:00: <GregorR> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-26.txt:03:17:04: <GregorR> YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-26.txt:03:17:10: <GregorR> egobfc2m just ran mandelbrot!!!!!!!!!!1 -2005-07-26.txt:05:05:27: <GregorR> OH WAIT!!!!!!!!!!! Does it need 16-bit words? -2005-07-26.txt:15:53:45: <Keymaker> SWITCH!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-27.txt:07:31:04: <GregorR> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-27.txt:07:31:07: <GregorR> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-27.txt:07:31:11: <GregorR> I AM THE CHAMPION!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-27.txt:07:31:19: <GregorR> I HAVE NO HUMILITY AND YET I DON'T CARE!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-28.txt:23:17:48: <GregorR> Muahahahaha ... BWAHAHAHAHA ... GAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-08-08.txt:22:41:33: <GregorR> *BOOOOOOOM!!!!!!* -2005-08-08.txt:22:44:29: <GregorR> G-ASP!!!!!! calamari said something nasty about our wonderful fantastic president who can have me murdered under the PATRIOT act if I say anything bad about his majesty. -2005-08-11.txt:00:51:52: <GregorR> NO!!!! XML IS ALWAYS BETTER!!!!! BUZZWORD = GOOD!!!! -2005-08-12.txt:16:54:18: <GregorR> CMYK*A (* = THE UNFATHOMABLE COLOR OF DOOOOOOOM!!!!!) -2005-08-12.txt:22:36:20: * Keymaker 's head explodes!!!!! -2005-08-17.txt:16:52:25: <Kmkr> NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! -2005-08-17.txt:20:34:57: <Gs30ng> HURRAH FOR ALL THE ESOLANG!!!!!! -2005-08-19.txt:04:00:23: <GregorR> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-08-19.txt:04:00:38: <GregorR> And also, YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-08-23.txt:00:53:46: <GregorR-W> Because if you knew the truth, /IT WOULD HAUNT YOU FOR ALL ETERNITY/!!!!! -2005-09-19.txt:17:24:01: <grim_> you can already do bf-ish 111111+++++ -2005-09-21.txt:04:12:24: <GregorR> kipple: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *sobs* -2005-09-21.txt:21:48:04: <GregorR> Can't talk now, I'm going to get MOXIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 -2005-09-22.txt:07:21:21: <GregorR> I'M A MONSTER!!!!!!!!!! -2005-09-23.txt:03:01:35: <GregorR> Hi!!!!!!!! -2005-09-23.txt:19:15:09: <GregorR> OMFG!!!!!!!! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES, IT'S GRIM UNDERSCORE UNDERSCORE UNDERSCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-09-26.txt:02:30:59: <Wildhalcyon> so, if you "unfold" it without the reverse symbol, you should get 111!1!++1!1!++1!1!++... hmm, no, you're right -2005-09-30.txt:20:28:55: <GregorR-L> AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! -2005-10-04.txt:07:53:17: * GregorR is .... THE UDAGE KILLERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-10-13.txt:02:53:18: <GregorR> EUREKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-10-14.txt:19:39:53: <Keymaker> nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-10-19.txt:23:35:43: * GregorR is .... THE FALSEBOT SLAYERRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!! -2005-10-20.txt:03:21:06: <falsebot> 1111111110 -2005-10-20.txt:03:21:19: <calamari> !123456789012345678111111111111111111111111111111 987654321+. -2005-10-20.txt:03:21:19: <falsebot> 123456789012345678111111111111111111112098765432 -2005-10-20.txt:03:23:36: <lament> !111111~. -2005-10-20.txt:03:23:36: <falsebot> -111112 -2005-10-20.txt:03:23:40: <lament> !11111111111111111111111111~. -2005-10-20.txt:03:23:41: <falsebot> -11111111111111111111111112 -2005-10-20.txt:21:39:43: <Robdgreat> ZOMG!!!111 -2005-10-21.txt:04:26:56: <GregorR> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-10-23.txt:20:56:25: <GregorR> cpressey: ASP .... DOT NET!!!!!? -2005-10-24.txt:21:05:33: <jix> glass fireing false and eso and BOTH fire back glass => exponential!!!!! -2005-10-28.txt:04:32:13: <GregorR> FYB!!!!!! -2005-10-28.txt:04:33:32: <GregorR> AHHHHHHH, FYB FYB FFYB FYB FYB!!!!! -2005-10-29.txt:00:21:06: <GregorR> DAMN YOU calamari!!!!!!!!!! -2005-10-29.txt:00:28:17: <GregorR> Hfffffffff!!!!! -2005-10-29.txt:01:59:13: <EgoBot> 110111001100010110010011101011100111010101100001100101011010101111110000111100010101110000010010110001110001101101101000000010001111101110100111000111010111000001100100011001111001111110000001111111011001011011100000101100011011000110001110110110010101111111011010110110111101110010111011000100000000001101110010110010111100100110000111110000001011011001111001000010011111000001101 -2005-11-04.txt:05:07:20: <lament> c++ sucks!!!!! :D -2005-11-05.txt:20:32:35: <Keymaker> SCOOTER!!!!!!!! -2005-11-06.txt:22:19:40: <Robdgreat> HI!!!11ONE -2005-11-12.txt:18:44:25: <Keymaker> i may not win, but at least i have one working solution!!!!!! -2005-11-21.txt:02:18:47: <GregorR> MUTINY!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-11-22.txt:03:30:21: <GregorR> There's no /usr !!!!!!!!!!! >_O -2005-12-04.txt:20:58:31: <GregorR> GASP YOU TYPED A CURSY WORD!!!!!!! -2005-12-21.txt:18:17:25: <nooga> YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 -2005-12-21.txt:20:18:30: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2005-12-28.txt:00:51:54: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-01-04.txt:20:52:16: <ihope> OMGWTFBBQ unlmabda is hard!!!11one!~ -2006-01-13.txt:02:07:11: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-01-13.txt:22:34:57: <ihope> omg omg omg!!!!11 llol -2006-01-14.txt:01:23:27: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-01-14.txt:23:09:37: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-01-16.txt:02:17:52: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-01-18.txt:01:54:26: -!- ihope_ has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-01-20.txt:00:52:14: <Keymaker> NOOOOO!!!!! -2006-01-20.txt:07:53:53: -!- fungebob has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-01-25.txt:02:08:36: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-01-31.txt:14:43:18: <Keymaker> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! -2006-02-02.txt:01:30:56: -!- fungebob has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-02-02.txt:11:10:03: <pgimeno> !!!!! -2006-02-02.txt:13:57:05: <nooga> he's 14 and he's writing interpreters in haskell and he knows lambda calculus and everything!!!!!! -2006-02-03.txt:23:12:12: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-02-04.txt:09:04:32: <GregorR_> Damn you peeeeeer!!!!!!!!! -2006-02-10.txt:00:51:44: <GregorR-L> KONQUEROR!!!!!! -2006-02-13.txt:18:29:00: <GregorR> nooga: BASTARD!!!!!!!!! -2006-03-03.txt:15:45:11: <RoboGregorR> c2bf supports arrays!!!!!!!!!! -2006-03-04.txt:14:06:58: <calamari> g1mm3 0pzzzzzzzzz!!!!!11one -2006-04-22.txt:06:12:53: <GregorR> lament: DAMN YOU AND YOUR GOOD PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2006-04-30.txt:01:01:48: <lament> three hundred MILLION digits!!!!! -2006-04-30.txt:01:53:55: <ihope> "[-]+[]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -2006-05-02.txt:20:48:03: <ihope> It can parse anything!!1!!!1!111!!! -2006-05-16.txt:20:39:26: * jix IS OVERCLOCKING HIS GP2X OMGLOL11111 -2006-05-19.txt:22:56:50: <ihope> You know, translated into English, that's "STDUIYGN IS 4 LMERAS!!!1!!!1!!1!!1!! :-D :-D :-D l0l" -2006-05-25.txt:06:42:24: <rabidpoobear> !whirl 011000001111000011111000001111000011111000001111000 -2006-05-25.txt:06:42:24: <rabidpoobear> 011111000001100100000110011111000111000111100011001 -2006-05-25.txt:06:42:24: <rabidpoobear> 11000000000111110001000111110011001111100010001100 -2006-05-26.txt:08:48:58: <SimonRC> !!!!! http://thedailywtf.com/forums/permalink/74461/74568/ShowThread.aspx#74568 -2006-05-29.txt:05:02:09: <coder_> DIE JAVA!!!!!!!! >:D -2006-05-30.txt:02:36:30: <ihope> I doubt it will be "OMG THE BEST GAME EVAR!!!@!!!!1!!!!!1!1" that many fans think it will be, but I think it will be pretty durn good. -2006-06-06.txt:19:02:23: <lament> oh, i got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2006-06-14.txt:22:07:00: <nooga> jix: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! -2006-06-18.txt:00:38:02: * SimonRC !!!!!s for a bit. -2006-07-22.txt:19:08:46: <lament> so instead, why don't we use... QUBYTES!!!!!! -2006-07-25.txt:22:05:28: <Razor-X> NOOOOOOO!!!!!! -2006-07-26.txt:20:27:33: <lament> You have something............IN YOUR PANTS!!!!!!!!! -2006-07-27.txt:20:00:46: <lament> !qbf !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!# -2006-07-28.txt:00:50:46: <Razor-X> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! -2006-07-28.txt:00:55:27: <nooga> !sadol !!!!!0 -2006-07-28.txt:00:55:39: <ihope> !qbf !!!!!0 -2006-07-28.txt:00:55:53: <nooga> !sadol !!!!!"1! -2006-07-28.txt:00:55:55: <EgoBot> !!!!! -2006-07-28.txt:16:20:42: <Razor-X> THAT'S LIKE INSULTING GOOGLE!!!!! -2006-07-30.txt:22:20:40: <Razor-X> No! EGOBOT! <Darth Vader> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! </Darth Vader>. -2006-08-01.txt:16:30:27: <asiekierka> !!!!!! -2006-08-14.txt:01:15:59: <Razor-X> The god way plan was displayed?! Calling obtaining! [IRC-NICK] can eat the sandwich!! Escaping!!!!! -2006-08-20.txt:04:01:39: <GregorR> EGOBOT?! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2006-08-22.txt:21:18:10: <Razor-X> NO!1111 -2006-08-22.txt:21:18:17: <Razor-X> STAY BACK, FIEND!!!111!!! -2006-08-23.txt:17:46:20: <Razor-X> I disagree with your philisophy, GregorR-W!!!11!!!! -2006-08-24.txt:19:18:10: <Razor-X> You don't know Haskell?!!!111///!!! -2006-08-27.txt:00:16:43: <GregorR-L> TYPEINFO IN PLOF!!!!! -2006-08-29.txt:03:52:47: <Razor-X> She was alive, I felt it!!!!! -2006-09-02.txt:21:54:54: <ihope_> "params str | all isWhite str = []" <- MY BOT IS RACEIST!!!!!!!!11 -2006-09-24.txt:23:51:50: <Razor-X> Write BF audio!!!11!!! -2006-10-14.txt:04:51:36: <Razor-X> (display "Let's use Lisp from the dark ages!!!111!!!") -2006-10-14.txt:04:52:53: <Razor-X> (define dark-ages "I like using 20 different syntactical forms!!!!111!!!") -2006-10-21.txt:16:59:08: <jix> pikhq: i want to see the bfm code !!!!!!11111oneeleven -2006-10-22.txt:23:18:54: <ihope> !!!!! -2006-10-22.txt:23:19:12: <ihope> (Nothing happened; I just feel like using an extra exclamation mark or two!!!!!) -2006-10-24.txt:00:43:46: <oerjan> OW!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2006-11-01.txt:03:07:10: <thematrixeatsyou> printf("HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"); -2006-11-01.txt:06:07:07: <Razor-X> I patented the MENU SYSTEM!!11!! -2006-11-26.txt:04:26:56: <RodgerTheGreat> >SHUT THE **** UP!!!!! -2006-12-20.txt:22:47:41: <bsmntbombdood> no school tomorow either!!!!! -2006-12-21.txt:23:10:50: <GregorR-W> !bf_txtgen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2006-12-21.txt:23:11:52: <EgoBot> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2006-12-22.txt:19:00:48: <Sukoshi> EgoBot's back!!!!!111111oneoneoneenoenoeno!!!! -2006-12-26.txt:22:37:26: <tokigun> die!! !!!! !!!!!! -2006-12-26.txt:22:37:53: <tokigun> die !! !! !!!!!! -2006-12-26.txt:22:39:22: <pikhq> die !! !! !!!!!! -2006-12-26.txt:22:39:47: <pikhq> !! !! !!!!!! -2006-12-26.txt:22:44:23: <pikhq> .Y. !!!!!!!!! aaaa -2006-12-26.txt:22:44:45: <pikhq> !!!!!!!!! aaaa -2006-12-28.txt:21:46:09: <oklopol> !glass {M[m(_a)A!<4><5>(_a)a.?(_o)O!(_o)(on).1111111111111111?]} -2007-01-04.txt:03:22:36: <bsmntbombdood> p!!!!!!!!!!1 -2007-01-07.txt:19:26:54: <ihope_> OH NOES!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2007-01-09.txt:03:52:56: <bsmntbombdood> emacs!!!!!!!! -2007-01-18.txt:05:02:37: <bsmntbombdood> !!!!!!!! -2007-01-21.txt:06:39:45: <CakeProphet> Gregor!!!!!!!!!!! -2007-01-23.txt:01:26:25: <EgoBot> 001110100011000001100111001110100011100000110100001010100010110100100001001000110100000001011111001110000011000000110001011100000011000000111110010111110010001100100010001110100011001000100101001110000011011000101010001010110101110000110010001011110011000000110001011001110011000100101101001110100011000000110001011100000011000001011100001000110010001001011111001001000010010000101 -2007-02-05.txt:04:21:44: <GreaseMonkey> MY MINISCRIPT INTERPRETER *SUCKS* UNDER WINDOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2007-02-06.txt:07:37:11: <GreaseMonkey> HELLO!!!!11!!!1!!!!! :D -2007-02-06.txt:23:23:20: <GreaseMonkey> OMGWTFBBQ!!!!!! -2007-02-11.txt:01:40:07: <SimonRC> read that whole website!!!!!! -2007-02-12.txt:05:42:04: <bsmntbombdood> NEVAR!!!!!!!! -2007-02-18.txt:23:22:54: <SevenInchBread> 11111 11 -2007-03-16.txt:15:57:43: <ais523> starting with 1111111110, the number of 0s grows gradually, with the 0s getting clumpier and clumpier, until the whole thing collapses -2007-03-18.txt:02:11:29: <bsmntbombdood> u r teh clevar!!!!!!!!!!! -2007-04-01.txt:06:53:23: <bsmntbombdood> OOOOOOOOOOOH!!!!! -2007-04-06.txt:06:23:58: <bsmnt_bot> I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!! -2007-04-07.txt:03:21:42: <oerjan> YOUR HARDDRIVE IS ALL GONE!!!!!111 -2007-04-21.txt:00:22:12: <fax> 1!!!!! -2007-05-27.txt:02:29:54: <SimonRC> great fun!!!!! -2007-05-29.txt:21:56:38: <ehird`> but somehow it's all over the net with "Looky someone made a prgo languaj with INTERNET WURDS LOL!!!!!!!!" -2007-05-29.txt:22:59:29: <ehird`> http://ww.lolcode.com/contributions/hey-guys ........ threading...... DO THESE PEOPLE REALISE THEY'RE DREAMING FAR TOO FAR AHEAD?!!!!!! -2007-06-07.txt:07:54:05: <GreaseMonkey> Quick, dial 11111111101010! -2007-06-25.txt:19:44:10: <bsmntbombdood> bong hits 4 jesus!!!!!!!!!!111 -2007-06-29.txt:07:18:19: <Sukoshi> OMG Cell automata is #1 coolz ftw d00d !!!111!!!! -2007-07-16.txt:21:45:01: -!- ehird` changed the topic of #esoteric to: ACKERMANN'S FUNCTION!!!!!! -2007-07-17.txt:05:01:37: <immybo> This is in white text!!!!! -2007-07-17.txt:05:02:26: <immybo> This is in white text!!!!! -2007-07-17.txt:06:44:16: <immibis> malbolge!!!!!! -2007-07-18.txt:02:48:11: <Figs> MUAHAHAHAHA!!!!! -2007-07-18.txt:06:22:31: <immybo> SHUT UP TOBOGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 -2007-07-25.txt:07:52:14: <ololobot> Hello world!!!!! -> i -2007-08-02.txt:18:28:14: <blahbot`> oh well, my owner just found one. AND IT'S IN BRAINFUCK!!!!111ONEONEONE -2007-08-02.txt:20:02:03: <asiekierka> !!!!!!!!! -2007-08-03.txt:22:10:21: <ehird`> lament, the HALTING problem??!1111 -2007-08-07.txt:18:12:52: <ehird`> THEN WHAT DID I PUT IN THE RECIPE?!!!!! -2007-08-10.txt:13:14:44: <oklokok> 11111111 -2007-08-10.txt:13:15:03: <oklokok> SET 000 11111111 JUMP 000 -2007-08-10.txt:13:16:15: <ehird`> what if 11111111 was in the data section -2007-08-10.txt:13:17:46: <oklokok> 00000000-11111111 ~ 00000000-11111110, so that'd really not be that big a sacrifice... the problem with removing halt is really the fact you may want to use it as a convenience for debugging -2007-08-10.txt:13:33:15: <oklokok> or have it be port 11111111 -2007-08-12.txt:16:57:49: <ehird`> !!!!!!! -2007-08-13.txt:23:09:01: <oklokok> 0000 000 00000000, 0000 001 11111111, 0000 002 00000001, 0000 003 xxxxxxxx, 1101 002 000, 0101 000 002, 0110 001 002, 1100 000 000 003 -2007-08-14.txt:23:47:17: <bsmntbombdood> markov!!!!!!!1 -2007-08-16.txt:00:06:06: <ihope> YOU ARE YOU!!!!! -2007-08-27.txt:21:57:13: <bsmntbombdood_> bot loop time!!!!!!!!11 -2007-09-07.txt:05:15:13: <pikhq> TROGDOR!!!!!! -2007-09-12.txt:04:19:31: <bsmntbombdood> that's not C!111123 -2007-09-15.txt:20:03:10: <ehird`> maybe NOW it will work!!!!! -2007-09-21.txt:08:04:13: <GregorR> !!!!!!!!!!! -2007-09-25.txt:20:25:40: <bsmntbombdood> omg they r k00l!!!!!!!! -2007-09-26.txt:03:13:30: <immibis> !binascii 00110000 00110001 00110011 00110100 00110101 00110110 00110111 00111000 00111001 00111010 00111011 00111100 00111101 00111110 00111111 -2007-10-02.txt:23:09:38: <lament> >>> 1111111111 ** 2 - 1111111110 * 1111111112 -2007-10-06.txt:13:44:18: <ehird`> !!!!! -2007-10-13.txt:02:01:25: <GreaseMonkey> e.g. "Hello World!!!!!1" -2007-11-17.txt:19:50:01: <ehird`> BEOS!!!!!!!!!! -2007-11-17.txt:23:00:13: <ehird`> BEHOLD!!!!!!!!! -2007-11-19.txt:02:40:05: <bsmntbombdood> has boobs!!!!!!!!!!omg -2007-11-25.txt:06:12:34: <immibis> theere r, many!!!!! speling gammatical eras and mistaks in santance dis. -2007-11-28.txt:20:47:56: <bsmntbombdood> it's bubbling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 -2007-12-10.txt:17:30:29: <Slereah> The "001011011101111011111" one. -2007-12-11.txt:23:52:39: <EgoBot> SPEND EVEN MORE BY CASH!!!!! MUHAHAHAHAHAAH! -2007-12-26.txt:22:27:43: <Slereah-> It prints 0010110111011110111110111111 ... -2007-12-30.txt:00:28:48: <ehird`_> GregorR!!!!!!!! -2007-12-31.txt:23:01:16: <oerjan> HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2008-01-08.txt:01:20:12: <ehird`> i have errorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrs, oerjan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2008-01-10.txt:23:09:12: <ehird`> faxlore: don't you?!?!1!!!111 -2008-01-11.txt:00:47:41: <ehird`> (("fib"->a)->b)->(("fib"->b)->a~b);("fib"->"111")->"11111" -2008-01-11.txt:00:53:48: <oklopol> that'll print 1|1, 1|11, 11|111, 111|11111 -2008-01-15.txt:01:24:27: <faxlore> AAAAA!!!!! -2008-01-17.txt:06:15:50: <oklopol> buybuybubyubybuy!!!!!! -2008-01-19.txt:09:01:56: -!- GreaseMonkey has quit ("Damn you, TSS! YOU'VE FOILED MY PLANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"). -2008-01-22.txt:17:25:21: <ehird> 00111!101 -2008-01-22.txt:17:32:41: <ehird> #!perl sub step { local $_ = shift; s/0(.*)!.(.*)/${1}0!/; s/1(.)(.*)!1(.*)/$1${2}1!1/; s/1(.)(.*)!0(.*)/$1${2}1!0/; $_; } my $foo = "00111!101"; while (true) { print $foo, " -"; my $new_foo = step($foo); if ($foo == $new_foo) { break; } $foo = $new_foo; } -2008-01-22.txt:18:29:28: -!- ehird` changed the topic of #esoteric to: What is the topic of this title? Is the soul greater than the hum of its parts? LOGS COLON HTTP://TUNES.ORG/~NEF/LOGS/ESOTERIC?!!!!! -2008-01-22.txt:20:22:50: -!- Slereah changed the topic of #esoteric to: What is the topic of this title? Is the soul greater than the hum of its parts? What's for dinner? LOGS COLON HTTP://TUNES.ORG/~NEF/LOGS/ESOTERIC?!!!!! -2008-01-22.txt:20:24:12: -!- ehird changed the topic of #esoteric to: What is the topic of this title? Is the soul greater than the hum of its parts? What's for dinner? LOGS COLON HTTP://TUNES.ORG/~NEF/LOGS/ESOTERIC?!!!!! WHAT IS THE SQUARE ROOT OF NINE??! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA -2008-01-29.txt:20:12:27: <ehird> ...111111111111111111111111110 -2008-02-12.txt:21:48:42: <ehird> obviously, monads are just so haskell can CHEAT out of being IMPERATIVE!!!!! -2008-02-17.txt:02:06:28: <ehird> i.e. it's 111111111111 -2008-02-18.txt:01:22:14: <ehird`_> MWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! -2008-02-19.txt:21:23:19: <ehird`> whoa, more than a SCREENFUL of errors!!!!!!! -2008-03-04.txt:21:52:02: <ehird> SimonRC: I just won The Antigame!!!!! -2008-03-08.txt:20:24:17: <ehird> my hacks are foiled!!!!! -2008-03-27.txt:03:46:37: <slereah_> apparently, the 1[A][B] for `AB only works for the combinators 11100 11111000 -2008-03-27.txt:20:52:25: <slereah_> The 1 = ` only works if you use 11100 and 11111000 -2008-04-01.txt:16:30:32: <ehird> "0xa" == "1e1"!!!!!! -2008-04-04.txt:18:58:56: <ais523> +ul (:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*)()~()~(((a(:^)*a(!!!!!!!!!^)~*^):^))~^a(((*)~a*^(((((1)S!^)((1)S!!^))~^)(!(((2)S!^)((2)S!!^))~^)(!!(((3)S!^)((3)S!!^))~^)(!!!(((4)S!^)((4)S!!^))~^)(!!!!(((5)S!^)((5)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!(((6)S!^)((6)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!(((7)S!^)((7)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!!(((8)S!^)((8)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!!!(((9)S!^)((9)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!!!!(((0)S!^)(()S!^))~^((a(:^)*a(!!!!!!!!!^)~*^):^)))~a(:^)*~^):^)~*^^^!^!^!^!^!^!!!!!!!!!!!!()~((0)S!)~^^ -2008-04-04.txt:18:59:11: <ais523> +ul (:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*)()~()~(((a(:^)*a(!!!!!!!!!^)~*^):^))~^a(((*)~a*^(((((1)S!^)((1)S!!^))~^)(!(((2)S!^)((2)S!!^))~^)(!!(((3)S!^)((3)S!!^))~^)(!!!(((4)S!^)((4)S!!^))~^)(!!!!(((5)S!^)((5)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!(((6)S!^)((6)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!(((7)S!^)((7)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!!(((8)S!^)((8)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!!!(((9)S!^)((9)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!!!!(((0)S!^)(()S!^))~^((a(:^)*a(!!!!!!!!!^)~*^):^)))~a(:^)*~^):^)~*^^^!^!^!^!^!^!!!!!!!!!!!!()~((0)S!)~^^ -2008-04-04.txt:19:01:00: <ais523> +ul (:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*)()~()~(((a(:^)*a(!!!!!!!!!^)~*^):^))~^a(((*)~a*^(((((1)S!^)((1)S!!^))~^)(!(((2)S!^)((2)S!!^))~^)(!!(((3)S!^)((3)S!!^))~^)(!!!(((4)S!^)((4)S!!^))~^)(!!!!(((5)S!^)((5)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!(((6)S!^)((6)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!(((7)S!^)((7)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!!(((8)S!^)((8)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!!!(((9)S!^)((9)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!!!!(((0)S!^)(()S!^))~^((a(:^)*a(!!!!!!!!!^)~*^):^)))~a(:^)*~^):^)~*^^^!^!^!^!^!^!!!!!!!!!!!!()~((0)S!)~^^ -2008-04-04.txt:19:03:44: <ais523> +ul (:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*)()~()~(((a(:^)*a(!!!!!!!!!^)~*^):^))~^a(((*)~a*^(((((1)S!^)((1)S!!^))~^)(!(((2)S!^)((2)S!!^))~^)(!!(((3)S!^)((3)S!!^))~^)(!!!(((4)S!^)((4)S!!^))~^)(!!!!(((5)S!^)((5)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!(((6)S!^)((6)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!(((7)S!^)((7)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!!(((8)S!^)((8)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!!!(((9)S!^)((9)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!!!!(((0)S!^)(()S!^))~^((a(:^)*a(!!!!!!!!!^)~*^):^)))~a(:^)*~^):^)~*^^^!^!^!^!^!^!!!!!!!!!!!!()~((0)S!)~^^ -2008-04-04.txt:19:06:40: <ais523> +ul (::*::**:**)()~()~(((a(:^)*a(!!!!!!!!!^)~*^):^))~^a(((*)~a*^(((((1)S!^)((1)S!!^))~^)(!(((2)S!^)((2)S!!^))~^)(!!(((3)S!^)((3)S!!^))~^)(!!!(((4)S!^)((4)S!!^))~^)(!!!!(((5)S!^)((5)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!(((6)S!^)((6)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!(((7)S!^)((7)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!!(((8)S!^)((8)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!!!(((9)S!^)((9)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!!!!(((0)S!^)(()S!^))~^((a(:^)*a(!!!!!!!!!^)~*^):^)))~a(:^)*~^):^)~*^^^!^!^!^!^!^!!!!!!!!!!!!()~((0)S!)~^^ -2008-04-04.txt:19:10:36: <ais523> +ul ((:*)(::**))(:^:()~()~(((a(:^)*a(!!!!!!!!!^)~*^):^))~^a(((*)~a*^(((((1)S!^)((1)S!!^))~^)(!(((2)S!^)((2)S!!^))~^)(!!(((3)S!^)((3)S!!^))~^)(!!!(((4)S!^)((4)S!!^))~^)(!!!!(((5)S!^)((5)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!(((6)S!^)((6)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!(((7)S!^)((7)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!!(((8)S!^)((8)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!!!(((9)S!^)((9)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!!!!(((0)S!^)(()S!^))~^((a(:^)*a(!!!!!!!!!^)~*^):^)))~a(:^)*~^):^)~*^^^!^!^!^!^!^!!!!!!!!!!!!()~((0)S!)~^^*a~^a~!~*:( )S) -2008-04-04.txt:19:11:03: <ais523> +ul ((:*)(::**))(:^:()~()~(((a(:^)*a(!!!!!!!!!^)~*^):^))~^a(((*)~a*^(((((1)S!^)((1)S!!^))~^)(!(((2)S!^)((2)S!!^))~^)(!!(((3)S!^)((3)S!!^))~^)(!!!(((4)S!^)((4)S!!^))~^)(!!!!(((5)S!^)((5)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!(((6)S!^)((6)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!(((7)S!^)((7)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!!(((8)S!^)((8)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!!!(((9)S!^)((9)S!!^))~^)(!!!!!!!!!(((0)S!^)(()S!^))~^((a(:^)*a(!!!!!!!!!^)~*^):^)))~a(:^)*~^):^)~*^^^!^!^!^!^!^!!!!!!!!!!!!()~((0)S!)~^^*a~^a~!~*:( )S)::::::::********^ -2008-04-07.txt:18:06:26: <seabot> 11111 -2008-04-07.txt:18:06:32: <seabot> 111111101 -2008-04-26.txt:21:59:02: <ehird> NO!!!!!!! -2008-04-27.txt:17:29:55: <ehird> 'This is what you get... for violating the... THREE REVERT RULE!!!!!' -2008-04-28.txt:14:12:52: <ehird_> YOU MUST SEE WHICH IS FASTER!!!!!!!!!! -2008-05-18.txt:18:15:08: <ehird> RodgerTheGreat: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2008-05-25.txt:01:41:21: <oklopol> ASDIOFGJIOGIODJFIOGJDFIOGJ!!!!! -2008-05-25.txt:21:54:01: <oklopol> YaycooolLLLL!!!11 -2008-05-29.txt:20:28:41: <AnMaster> ais523, SPECS!!!!!!!!!!! -2008-06-01.txt:14:39:05: <oklopol> 12:27… Nocta: im just wondering if you could code a gui in brainfuck? ;o <<< PSOX !!!!! -2008-06-10.txt:13:54:18: <Zatvornik> russia rape usa!!!!!!! -2008-06-13.txt:19:51:22: <lament> OMG YOU NOOBS LOL!!!!!!!
--- a/paste/paste.24107 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,55 +0,0 @@ -Linux version 3.0.8-umlbox (root@codu.org) (gcc version 4.4.5 (Debian 4.4.5-8) ) #2 Sun Nov 13 21:30:28 UTC 2011 -On node 0 totalpages: 72940 -free_area_init_node: node 0, pgdat 6022df60, node_mem_map 6282f000 - Normal zone: 998 pages used for memmap - Normal zone: 0 pages reserved - Normal zone: 71942 pages, LIFO batch:15 -pcpu-alloc: s0 r0 d32768 u32768 alloc=1*32768 -pcpu-alloc: [0] 0 -Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on. Total pages: 71942 -Kernel command line: initrd=/usr/bin/../lib/umlbox/umlbox-initrd.gz ubda=/tmp/12939.conf mem=256M con1=null,fd:5 con2=fd:9,fd:8 con=null,null root=98:0 -PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 2, 16384 bytes) -Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) -Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) -Memory: 250380k available -NR_IRQS:15 -Calibrating delay loop... 232.24 BogoMIPS (lpj=1161216) -pid_max: default: 32768 minimum: 301 -Mount-cache hash table entries: 256 -check_one_sigio failed, errno = 2 -check_one_sigio failed, errno = 2 -Using 2.6 host AIO -NET: Registered protocol family 16 -bio: create slab <bio-0> at 0 -Switching to clocksource itimer -NET: Registered protocol family 2 -IP route cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes) -TCP established hash table entries: 16384 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) -TCP bind hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) -TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384 bind 16384) -TCP reno registered -UDP hash table entries: 256 (order: 1, 8192 bytes) -UDP-Lite hash table entries: 256 (order: 1, 8192 bytes) -NET: Registered protocol family 1 -Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs... -Switched to NOHz mode on CPU #0 -Freeing initrd memory: 271k freed -mconsole (version 2) initialized on /home/hackbot/.uml/TcTckd/mconsole -Checking host MADV_REMOVE support... -MADV_REMOVE failed, err = -38 -Can't release memory to the host - memory hotplug won't be supported -msgmni has been set to 489 -io scheduler noop registered -io scheduler deadline registered -io scheduler cfq registered (default) -brd: module loaded -loop: module loaded -TCP cubic registered -NET: Registered protocol family 10 -IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver -Initialized stdio console driver -Console initialized on /dev/tty0 -console [tty0] enabled -Initializing software serial port version 1 -console [mc-1] enabled - ubda: unknown partition table
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--- a/paste/paste.25347 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,47 +0,0 @@ -59) <Sgeo> What else is there to vim besides editing commands? -79) <Sgeo|web> Where's the link to the log? <lament> THERE'S NO LOG. YOUR REQUEST IS SUSPICIOUS AND HAS BEEN LOGGED. -86) <virtuhird> Sgeo_: Gregorr: and someone could, by mistake, rewrite psox to be a weak erection if it is... A filename. -118) <pikhq> And... WTF is it doing. <pikhq> :( <Sgeo_> Is it sexing? -129) <coppro> what's the data of? [...] <Sgeo> Locations in a now deceased game called Mutation <coppro> I have no problems with you being interested in online games <coppro> but the necrophilia is disturbing -145) <Sgeo> Why shouldn't I just do everything in non-Microsoft-specific C#? <ais523> it's like trying to write non-IE-specific JavaScript with only Microsoft documentation and only IE to test on -146) (in #irp) <Sgeo> Flonk, ask on #esoteric? <Flonk> Sgeo: yeah well its C++, so not that esoteric :P -161) <fungot> Sgeo: hahaah, and i love when they announced it i dare u to press alt f4 and your house ( acts 16:31 your bible) -189) * Gregor bashes his head into the wall that is Sgeo. -194) <Sgeo> HOT SEXY SEX BITS -195) <Sgeo> How much do mainframes cost these days? I mean, they're obsoleteish, right? My notebook's much more powerful? So surely, they're cheap? -203) <Sgeo> Hmm. I want to try vanilla extract now, but I don't want the alcohol -214) <pikhq> zzo38: A better definition would probably fix Avogadro's number. <Sgeo> It's broken? -215) <Sgeo> Oh. Stuff that uses actual physical numbers stemming from science. Bleh *gets bored* -217) <Sgeo> My quotes are boring -230) <Sgeo> Is there a name for something where I'm more attracted to someone if I know they've had a rough past? <variable> Sgeo, "Little Shop of Horrors" -247) <nddrylliog> Sgeo: re "hm?": at the emerging languages conf., after the talks we went out for a drinks and all the Factor team was on heavy liquor -275) <Gregor> !bfjoust furry_furry_strapon_pegging_girls http://sprunge.us/eKWa * Sgeo had no idea that Gregor was hetero -292) <oklopol> okay see in my head it went, you send from your other number smth like "i'd certainly like to see you in those pink panties again" and she's like "WHAT?!? Sgeo took a pic?!?!?! that FUCKING PIG" -307) 00:07 Sgeo has quit (IRC is taking up too much of my time. I need time to study the Bible and find Christ.) 00:12 Sgeo has joined #esoteric. -335) <Sgeo_> I think she either likes me, is neutral towards me, or dislikes me -364) [on Sgeo's karaoke] <not_nddrylliog> Sgeo: awesome <not_nddrylliog> sounds like a japan anime sound track -365) [on Sgeo's karaoke] <Phantom_Hoover> That is the thing that made me into a gay vampire. -374) <Sgeo> I was more of a pervert in Metaplace than Utherverse <Sgeo> I invented Metaplace sex >.> -375) <elliott> sgeo do you actually know what sex looks like i am just checking here <Sgeo> I think so -387) <Sgeo> Oracle's awesome -397) <Sgeo> Hmm. I guess it's nearby GRBs that would be problematic? <Phantom_Hoover> Sgeo, if by 'problematic' you mean 'what's that in the AAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHH'. -404) <monqy> Sgeo: also do you know how to write a parser <Sgeo> monqy, how hard could it be? -405) <Sgeo> I hope type inference isn't difficult -419) <Sgeo> I used to be more irritated by alcohol <olsner> Sgeo: you're not supposed to put it in your eyes -425) <Sgeo_> "system is fairly sane <Sgeo_> <elliott> imagine if the roomba was called the Robotic Magic Vacuum <Sgeo_> <elliott> would you object to that being trademarked <Sgeo_> <monqy> I mean <Sgeo_> <monqy> phrase trade" <Sgeo_> oops -426) <Sgeo_> Something about faiing a asanity check <Sgeo_> sanity <Sgeo_> faliling <Sgeo_> failing -440) <Sgeo> Will anyone be irritated if I tend to disconnect and reconnect a lot? [...] <oerjan> we _almost_ have an established policy that bots will be banned it they do that. which means we might have to administer a turing test to sgeo, and that could get ugly. -450) * Sgeo mutters about broken toilets <Sgeo> #toilet is useless <monqy> is #toilet even a thing <Sgeo> I'm looking for help with toilets -451) <Sgeo> Dear eHow: Please don't assume that my toilet works like that <Sgeo> Or, at least, my toilet looks different -460) <SgeoN1> No nasty sounds for a while now. Going to turn off and on and see if the numbers get worse. -461) * Sgeo is risking massive forest fires <Sgeo> The bacon is worth it -478) <Sgeo> I'm having nostalgia for when we could see the glass from the floor -498) <Sgeo> My memory passed <monqy> rest in peace sgeos memory -504) <Phantom_Hoover> Sgeo_, the origin of suffering is desire for e-book readers. -573) <Sgeo> Maybe I should try to learn Scala instead of Ruby <elliott> I will boil your veins. <Sgeo> Which is less bad? <elliott> Probably Scala, but I don't want you learning languages. -614) <Sgeo> Can you build the ... why wouldn't you be able to, just and all the computables -692) <Sgeo|web> ...Overlapping? -708) * Sgeo|web wants to see elliott be wrong about something <elliott> Sgeo|web: That literally never happens. <shachaf> Sgeo|web: There you go. A great example. -720) <Sgeo> I guess only gay people fuck? -817) <Sgeo> "Sgeo: how refreshing to see you talk about something other than whatever the heck homestuck is" -819) <Sgeo_> Why does CL get called functional? <oerjan> it's sort of like how you call ancient greece democratic.
--- a/paste/paste.26714 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,301 +0,0 @@ -2008-04-26.txt:04:15:49: -!- evincarofautumn has joined #esoteric. -2008-04-26.txt:04:19:09: <evincarofautumn> Hey there. -2008-04-26.txt:04:19:46: <evincarofautumn> Fairly dead, then, eh? -2008-04-26.txt:04:20:00: <evincarofautumn> To be expected. -2008-04-26.txt:04:20:49: <evincarofautumn> Hm. -2008-04-26.txt:04:21:04: <evincarofautumn> Well, it's been a while for me, so I figured I'd get back in the swing, you know? -2008-04-26.txt:04:21:32: <evincarofautumn> Last time I implemented an esolang was... -2008-04-26.txt:04:21:37: <evincarofautumn> maybe a few years ago. -2008-04-26.txt:04:21:51: <evincarofautumn> Sho' you right. -2008-04-26.txt:04:22:10: <evincarofautumn> Ha. -2008-04-26.txt:04:22:14: <evincarofautumn> Happens to the best of us. -2008-04-26.txt:04:24:00: <evincarofautumn> Heh. I'm a senior right now. -2008-04-26.txt:04:24:17: <evincarofautumn> It's a damn shame the way school gets in the way of learning sometimes. -2008-04-26.txt:04:24:39: <evincarofautumn> So. -2008-04-26.txt:04:24:41: <evincarofautumn> Esolangs. -2008-04-26.txt:04:24:56: <evincarofautumn> I have an idea formulating. -2008-04-26.txt:04:25:41: <evincarofautumn> Let's see... it's 2d. There's an execution pointer as a vector offset into the space. Some standard-issue commands, whatever. -2008-04-26.txt:04:25:48: <evincarofautumn> But. -2008-04-26.txt:04:25:58: <evincarofautumn> Execution can be branched. -2008-04-26.txt:04:26:21: <evincarofautumn> You can have multiple execution pointers running at once. -2008-04-26.txt:04:26:27: <evincarofautumn> They're guaranteed to run concurrently. -2008-04-26.txt:04:26:36: <evincarofautumn> If they crash together, they unify into one thread. -2008-04-26.txt:04:27:01: <evincarofautumn> Hm. -2008-04-26.txt:04:27:03: <evincarofautumn> Oh, man. -2008-04-26.txt:04:27:05: <evincarofautumn> Best idea ever. -2008-04-26.txt:04:27:10: <evincarofautumn> Attractors. -2008-04-26.txt:04:27:25: <evincarofautumn> There are attractors, toward which a thread moves. -2008-04-26.txt:04:27:38: <evincarofautumn> The attractor can be moved when the thread reaches a certain position. -2008-04-26.txt:04:27:43: <evincarofautumn> There's your event-handling code, right there. -2008-04-26.txt:04:28:02: <evincarofautumn> I think maybe one attractor for each thread? -2008-04-26.txt:04:28:24: <evincarofautumn> And moving two attractors to the same position guarantees that the threads will crash and unify. -2008-04-26.txt:04:28:37: <evincarofautumn> I'm on a roll! -2008-04-26.txt:04:28:52: <evincarofautumn> But to think of syntax... -2008-04-26.txt:04:28:54: <evincarofautumn> Um. -2008-04-26.txt:04:28:56: <evincarofautumn> Help. -2008-04-26.txt:04:29:05: <evincarofautumn> Ack! -2008-04-26.txt:04:29:08: <evincarofautumn> Help! -2008-04-26.txt:04:29:13: <evincarofautumn> Yeah... -2008-04-26.txt:04:29:23: <evincarofautumn> Wait, what am I saying. -2008-04-26.txt:04:29:30: <evincarofautumn> Basic instruction set before syntax. -2008-04-26.txt:04:29:38: <evincarofautumn> (It _has_ been a while) -2008-04-26.txt:04:30:21: <evincarofautumn> Um. Well, we can assume one thread that starts at (0, 0), attracted to the bottom right of the program. -2008-04-26.txt:04:30:48: <evincarofautumn> Should vertical and horizontal movement be independent? -2008-04-26.txt:04:30:55: <evincarofautumn> Otherwise you'd have the problem of rounding. -2008-04-26.txt:04:35:47: <evincarofautumn> Well, whatever. This one kind of crapped out on me. -2008-04-26.txt:04:35:53: <evincarofautumn> I'll sleep on it later. -2008-04-26.txt:05:11:03: <evincarofautumn> Hello. -2008-04-26.txt:05:11:23: <evincarofautumn> Too late, must sleep. -2008-04-26.txt:05:11:29: <evincarofautumn> I'm outta here. -2008-04-26.txt:05:11:31: -!- evincarofautumn has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]"). -2008-04-26.txt:23:47:54: -!- evincarofautumn has joined #esoteric. -2008-04-26.txt:23:48:24: <oklopol> evincarofautumn: i hate you! (but don't worry, it's not real hate) -2008-04-26.txt:23:48:25: <evincarofautumn> Hello all. -2008-04-26.txt:23:48:31: <evincarofautumn> Dang. -2008-04-26.txt:23:48:40: <evincarofautumn> Best. Greeting. Ever. -2008-04-26.txt:23:48:43: <evincarofautumn> Ha! -2008-04-26.txt:23:48:45: <evincarofautumn> No way. -2008-04-26.txt:23:48:50: <evincarofautumn> I've already started a spec. -2008-04-26.txt:23:49:01: <evincarofautumn> And I'm doing a reference interpreter in-- -2008-04-26.txt:23:49:03: <evincarofautumn> get this -2008-04-26.txt:23:49:07: <evincarofautumn> --QuickBASIC. -2008-04-26.txt:23:49:09: <evincarofautumn> Yes sir. -2008-04-26.txt:23:49:14: <evincarofautumn> I feel like abusing myself. -2008-04-26.txt:23:49:18: <evincarofautumn> And others, matter of fact. -2008-04-26.txt:23:49:30: <ehird> evincarofautumn: Wow -- you split sentences up MORE THAN ME! -2008-04-26.txt:23:50:06: <evincarofautumn> ehird--We make eso langs. We should have eso speech. -2008-04-26.txt:23:50:34: <ehird> evincarofautumn: I quite like the Queen's English, thanks. -2008-04-26.txt:23:51:58: <evincarofautumn> Conlangs are great. -2008-04-26.txt:23:52:09: <evincarofautumn> I was working on an ideographic system for English recently. -2008-04-26.txt:23:52:14: <evincarofautumn> Worst idea ever, I might add. -2008-04-26.txt:23:52:18: <evincarofautumn> It's just not built for it. -2008-04-26.txt:23:54:10: <evincarofautumn> each character represents an idea, carrying with it one or more pronunciations. -2008-04-26.txt:23:54:15: <evincarofautumn> Like...japanese kanji. -2008-04-26.txt:23:54:30: <evincarofautumn> oklopol--Oh, it just increments the x and y each execution frame. -2008-04-26.txt:23:55:01: <evincarofautumn> ...Or decrements, as the case may be. -2008-04-26.txt:23:56:03: <evincarofautumn> Um...no? -2008-04-26.txt:23:56:29: <evincarofautumn> x and y movement are independent... -2008-04-26.txt:23:57:16: <evincarofautumn> if attractor-x > thread-x then thread-x++ -2008-04-26.txt:23:57:21: <evincarofautumn> That kind of thing. -2008-04-26.txt:23:57:21: <evincarofautumn> Yessir. -2008-04-26.txt:23:58:11: <evincarofautumn> Yep. When a turtle walks over a command character, it executes it. -2008-04-27.txt:00:04:37: <evincarofautumn> No, I get it. -2008-04-27.txt:00:04:52: <evincarofautumn> The x and y are both changed each frame. -2008-04-27.txt:00:05:11: <evincarofautumn> So it would go (0, 0), (1, 1), (2, 2), ... (5, 6), (5, 7), (5, 8) -2008-04-27.txt:00:05:14: <evincarofautumn> etc. -2008-04-27.txt:00:09:45: <evincarofautumn> Yes, I was just misunderstanding you. -2008-04-27.txt:00:09:48: <evincarofautumn> Heh. -2008-04-27.txt:00:10:49: <evincarofautumn> Just a moment, please. I'm reviewing some college stuff. ^_^ -2008-04-27.txt:00:13:35: <ehird> evincarofautumn: there's something wrong with your eyes and mouth -2008-04-27.txt:00:17:39: <evincarofautumn> Pseudo-so. -2008-04-27.txt:00:17:45: <evincarofautumn> I'm distracted. -2008-04-27.txt:00:17:47: <evincarofautumn> Just a moment. -2008-04-27.txt:00:26:47: <evincarofautumn> Okay. -2008-04-27.txt:00:26:51: <evincarofautumn> Let's do this, yo. -2008-04-27.txt:00:27:06: <evincarofautumn> And yes, my eyes and mouth have become suspiciously Japanese all o' sudden. -2008-04-27.txt:00:27:14: <evincarofautumn> Anyhow. -2008-04-27.txt:00:27:15: <evincarofautumn> Commands! -2008-04-27.txt:00:28:28: <evincarofautumn> Each thread has only one associated attractor. I think I may not have made that clear. -2008-04-27.txt:00:28:57: <evincarofautumn> So I'm thinking something along the lines of... -2008-04-27.txt:00:29:17: <evincarofautumn> increase attractor jump size, jump attractor up/down/left/right, -2008-04-27.txt:00:30:22: <evincarofautumn> fork thread (forking creates a new attractor for the new thread at the opposite position on the graph) -2008-04-27.txt:00:30:45: <evincarofautumn> ? -2008-04-27.txt:00:31:33: <evincarofautumn> I don't quite follow... -2008-04-27.txt:00:32:01: <evincarofautumn> Yes... -2008-04-27.txt:00:32:12: <evincarofautumn> I'm getting there. -2008-04-27.txt:00:32:45: <evincarofautumn> No, toroidal, with the initial size determined by the maximum line width of the source / number of lines of source. -2008-04-27.txt:00:33:52: <evincarofautumn> Yeah. But unlimited in terms of what the programmer can request. -2008-04-27.txt:00:33:58: <evincarofautumn> Program space is data space. -2008-04-27.txt:00:34:15: <evincarofautumn> I was thinking of having a stack for inter-thread communication. -2008-04-27.txt:00:34:26: <evincarofautumn> Nah. That makes it too easy. -2008-04-27.txt:00:36:20: <evincarofautumn> The limit _is_ arbitrary. It's programmer-defined. -2008-04-27.txt:00:37:58: <evincarofautumn> But then you can't have it wrap around. -2008-04-27.txt:00:38:06: <ehird> evincarofautumn: yes you can -2008-04-27.txt:00:38:10: <evincarofautumn> I like the idea of tangly loopy crazy thread interaction. -2008-04-27.txt:00:38:39: <oklopol> evincarofautumn: have n dimensions, where m of them wrap -2008-04-27.txt:00:41:21: <evincarofautumn> Hm. I like my graph quantized. -2008-04-27.txt:00:41:43: <evincarofautumn> I like 2 dimensions, 2 wrapping. Then it's standard-issue fungery. -2008-04-27.txt:00:42:15: <evincarofautumn> Argh. -2008-04-27.txt:00:42:20: <evincarofautumn> I really don't get how that's useful. -2008-04-27.txt:00:43:32: <evincarofautumn> Yeah, but I want the finite restriction to be a mark of the program's elegance, of how tiny it can be made to work. -2008-04-27.txt:00:44:15: <evincarofautumn> If you can get a hello world or a cat working in 2 lines of 5 chars instead of 25 lines of 80, then there's something to be said for the beauty of your code. -2008-04-27.txt:00:44:43: <evincarofautumn> Besides, we haven't even talked about how this is supposed to be a threaded language. -2008-04-27.txt:00:45:20: <revcompgeek> evincarofautumn said that he doesn't get how that is useful and i was saying that it wasn't supposed to be useful -2008-04-27.txt:00:45:20: <oklopol> evincarofautumn: don't be like that, if it can trivially be extended to infinity, please do it, if it can't, it's probably not interesting. -2008-04-27.txt:00:45:38: <evincarofautumn> Hm. -2008-04-27.txt:00:45:41: <evincarofautumn> Well. -2008-04-27.txt:00:46:38: <evincarofautumn> I suppose you could dynamically alter execution *speed* instead of direction, and repeat blocks of code by having unbounded memory to which you copy previously executed code. -2008-04-27.txt:00:46:39: <oklopol> evincarofautumn: i'm just saying... why not have it infinite, unless you have something like pointer size to stop ya -2008-04-27.txt:00:47:12: <evincarofautumn> Why not have it finite, when it begins to demand more elegant coding practices? -2008-04-27.txt:00:47:27: <evincarofautumn> The rate at which the instruction pointer moves through space. -2008-04-27.txt:00:47:41: <evincarofautumn> Then we're not in funges so much. -2008-04-27.txt:00:48:15: <evincarofautumn> Well, you could have a position vector coupled with velocity and acceleration, and model the thread's journey through space using gravity. -2008-04-27.txt:00:48:29: <evincarofautumn> You could have missiles fired from a home base (say (0, 0)) -2008-04-27.txt:00:48:42: <evincarofautumn> And they must reach planets to execute instructions. -2008-04-27.txt:00:48:46: <evincarofautumn> Whatever. -2008-04-27.txt:00:50:15: <evincarofautumn> It could, if you're working with reals. It could just as easily go (0, 0), (2, 2), (4, 4), (5, 5), etc. -2008-04-27.txt:00:50:25: <evincarofautumn> (5, 6) I mean. -2008-04-27.txt:00:50:44: <evincarofautumn> I think this isn't really in the spirit of my original concept. -2008-04-27.txt:00:50:54: <evincarofautumn> Which somebody called forkfunge. -2008-04-27.txt:00:51:00: <evincarofautumn> I want to keep that feeling. -2008-04-27.txt:00:52:30: <evincarofautumn> Kind of. -2008-04-27.txt:00:52:52: <evincarofautumn> The only numbers you get are your location vector and the data pointed to by your parent's location vector. -2008-04-27.txt:00:53:05: <evincarofautumn> Plus I/O and stack. -2008-04-27.txt:00:53:18: <evincarofautumn> Stack is just for IPC. -2008-04-27.txt:00:54:14: <evincarofautumn> I think we're starting to come together on this. -2008-04-27.txt:00:54:36: <evincarofautumn> I like the devilish idea of attractors. -2008-04-27.txt:00:54:42: <evincarofautumn> Then you can't control how you get somewhere. -2008-04-27.txt:00:54:49: <evincarofautumn> You only control where you're going. -2008-04-27.txt:00:54:56: <evincarofautumn> ...in a manner of speaking. -2008-04-27.txt:00:55:09: <evincarofautumn> It's not as intuitive as setting a direction, anyway. -2008-04-27.txt:00:57:17: <evincarofautumn> Bingo, revcompgeek. -2008-04-27.txt:00:58:03: <evincarofautumn> You know, this idea doesn't seem hard enough, come to think of. -2008-04-27.txt:00:58:28: <evincarofautumn> s/of/of it/ -2008-04-27.txt:00:59:08: <evincarofautumn> What time zone are you? -2008-04-27.txt:00:59:31: <evincarofautumn> Ah. -2008-04-27.txt:00:59:39: <evincarofautumn> I'm -5. -2008-04-27.txt:01:00:28: <evincarofautumn> Okay. -2008-04-27.txt:01:00:30: <evincarofautumn> Later. -2008-04-27.txt:01:01:29: <evincarofautumn> Looking it up right now. -2008-04-27.txt:01:03:01: <evincarofautumn> Can't find it... -2008-04-27.txt:01:04:27: <evincarofautumn> Dang. Should have looked on the wiki. -2008-04-27.txt:01:04:32: <evincarofautumn> :P -2008-04-27.txt:01:07:26: <evincarofautumn> Okay. -2008-04-27.txt:01:07:34: <evincarofautumn> It's interesting. -2008-04-27.txt:01:08:03: <evincarofautumn> http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/forum/ -2008-04-27.txt:01:13:29: <evincarofautumn> Hm. -2008-04-27.txt:01:14:49: <evincarofautumn> Like I said, it's interesting. -2008-04-27.txt:01:14:55: <evincarofautumn> I tend to prefer more obfuscated things. -2008-04-27.txt:01:15:29: <evincarofautumn> This seems more...high-level specialisation in lieu of outright obfuscation. -2008-04-27.txt:01:16:57: <evincarofautumn> I think that's a fine goal. -2008-04-27.txt:01:17:05: <evincarofautumn> And it certainly is obfuscated to some extent. -2008-04-27.txt:01:17:07: <evincarofautumn> Yeah. -2008-04-27.txt:01:17:22: <evincarofautumn> I like the way your cat looks. -2008-04-27.txt:01:17:46: <evincarofautumn> It's almost understandable... -2008-04-27.txt:01:17:51: <evincarofautumn> I like that, actually. -2008-04-27.txt:01:18:13: <evincarofautumn> I think you should be able to figure out how a language works but have a hard time using it nonetheless. -2008-04-27.txt:01:18:22: <evincarofautumn> esolang, of course. -2008-04-27.txt:01:18:31: <evincarofautumn> Heh, I know the feeling. -2008-04-27.txt:01:19:00: <evincarofautumn> The closest I ever came was something called "symbol", which I never released. -2008-04-27.txt:01:19:19: <evincarofautumn> Yuck in a really cool way, though. -2008-04-27.txt:01:19:54: <evincarofautumn> None has written anything useful in it by hand. -2008-04-27.txt:01:20:17: <evincarofautumn> No human, anyway. -2008-04-27.txt:01:20:21: <evincarofautumn> Heh. -2008-04-27.txt:01:20:25: <evincarofautumn> Nice. -2008-04-27.txt:01:20:30: <evincarofautumn> What functionality? -2008-04-27.txt:01:21:08: <evincarofautumn> What features does your library include? -2008-04-27.txt:01:21:38: <evincarofautumn> 500: Project AID does not exist. -2008-04-27.txt:01:22:38: <ehird> <evincarofautumn> None has written anything useful in it by hand. -2008-04-27.txt:01:23:07: <evincarofautumn> ehird:Has the news broken and I missed it? -2008-04-27.txt:01:23:09: <evincarofautumn> Crap! -2008-04-27.txt:01:23:14: <ehird> evincarofautumn: It was ages ago! -2008-04-27.txt:01:23:18: <evincarofautumn> Crap! -2008-04-27.txt:01:23:22: <evincarofautumn> Oh. -2008-04-27.txt:01:23:24: <evincarofautumn> Of course. -2008-04-27.txt:01:24:06: <ehird> evincarofautumn: Also - http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Malbolge_programming -2008-04-27.txt:01:24:41: <ehird> evincarofautumn: There's also a real-loop 99bob in Malbolge. -2008-04-27.txt:01:25:07: <evincarofautumn> I've seen that one. -2008-04-27.txt:01:25:17: <evincarofautumn> Nearly crapped my pants. -2008-04-27.txt:01:25:35: <evincarofautumn> Most loops like to terminate like crazy. -2008-04-27.txt:01:27:15: <evincarofautumn> Odd. -2008-04-27.txt:01:27:21: <evincarofautumn> Has it been proven tc? -2008-04-27.txt:01:28:54: <evincarofautumn> Nice. -2008-04-27.txt:01:29:11: <evincarofautumn> I was just about to say, I'd like a symbol for the commonly-used loops. -2008-04-27.txt:01:29:28: <evincarofautumn> Maybe you could eliminate for? -2008-04-27.txt:01:29:34: <evincarofautumn> That's just me. -2008-04-27.txt:01:29:36: <evincarofautumn> I never like for loops. -2008-04-27.txt:01:30:10: <evincarofautumn> It is kind of cute, sitting there all alone, surrounded by line noise... -2008-04-27.txt:01:33:53: <revcompgeek> or evincarofautumn -2008-04-27.txt:01:34:07: <evincarofautumn> Ha. -2008-04-27.txt:01:34:19: <evincarofautumn> I have no opinion, I guess. -2008-04-27.txt:01:34:26: <evincarofautumn> Or a neutral opinion. -2008-04-27.txt:01:36:44: <evincarofautumn> Maybe you could offer both, if you can't decide. -2008-04-27.txt:01:38:15: <evincarofautumn> Call them "Traditional" and "Simplified" after Chinese. -2008-04-27.txt:01:38:34: <evincarofautumn> Then write a converter in the language ^_^ -2008-04-27.txt:01:40:47: <evincarofautumn> Yes! -2008-04-27.txt:01:40:50: <evincarofautumn> Yes yes yes! -2008-04-27.txt:01:40:59: <evincarofautumn> Beautiful! -2008-04-27.txt:01:42:40: <evincarofautumn> And since the syntax is punctuation-based, you can inline it as much as you want, making it look like normal text. -2008-04-27.txt:01:42:47: <evincarofautumn> Steganography right there. -2008-04-27.txt:01:42:59: <evincarofautumn> Heh. -2008-04-27.txt:01:46:45: <evincarofautumn> Oh wow. I just found one of my old eso specs. -2008-04-27.txt:01:48:06: <evincarofautumn> You get...sponges. Sponges are like variables, but they can absorb an unlimited number of values, string or integer, and you don't know which stored value you'll receive when you 'squeeze' it. -2008-04-27.txt:01:48:14: <evincarofautumn> Nice. -2008-04-27.txt:01:48:40: <evincarofautumn> Apart from that, math operations are fairly deterministic...provided you only use single-valued sponges. -2008-04-27.txt:01:50:02: <evincarofautumn> Sponge Spongey -2008-04-27.txt:01:50:04: <evincarofautumn> Spongey Absorb Hello World -2008-04-27.txt:01:50:05: <evincarofautumn> Squeeze Spongey -2008-04-27.txt:01:50:07: <evincarofautumn> Squish Spongey -2008-04-27.txt:01:50:08: <evincarofautumn> Splat -2008-04-27.txt:01:53:10: <evincarofautumn> That's nice. -2008-04-27.txt:01:53:19: <evincarofautumn> Then they stick out like they're not supposed to be there. -2008-04-27.txt:01:53:30: <evincarofautumn> Plus you can include any non-} character. -2008-04-27.txt:01:54:08: <evincarofautumn> ihope: squeeze outputs a value of a sponge, apparently, and squish undefines it. -2008-04-27.txt:01:54:50: <evincarofautumn> Well, you don't _have_to obfuscate. -2008-04-27.txt:01:54:53: <evincarofautumn> It's just fun. -2008-04-27.txt:01:58:31: <evincarofautumn> Why no? -2008-04-27.txt:01:58:44: <evincarofautumn> What else do you use {} to do if they were comment chars before? -2008-04-27.txt:01:58:58: <evincarofautumn> Or are you looking to be able to include uppercase characters in comments. -2008-04-27.txt:01:59:11: <evincarofautumn> s/\./\?/ -2008-04-27.txt:02:08:19: <evincarofautumn> Barglemash. -2008-04-27.txt:02:08:25: <evincarofautumn> Oh, wait. -2008-04-27.txt:02:08:27: <evincarofautumn> You said talk. -2008-04-27.txt:02:08:31: <evincarofautumn> Hello. -2008-04-27.txt:02:09:04: <evincarofautumn> I have some bad memories of that I have to deal with. -2008-04-27.txt:02:09:08: <evincarofautumn> It happened a few lines ago. -2008-04-27.txt:02:09:12: <evincarofautumn> I don't want to talk about it. -2008-04-27.txt:02:09:16: <evincarofautumn> ^_^ -2008-04-27.txt:02:13:24: <evincarofautumn> No. -2008-04-27.txt:02:13:29: <evincarofautumn> Well, maybe. -2008-04-27.txt:02:13:40: <evincarofautumn> I didn't even ask, and got crazy suggestions. -2008-04-27.txt:02:14:08: <evincarofautumn> Which, like yours, were unfitting with my original idea. -2008-04-27.txt:02:14:15: <evincarofautumn> You have to forgive people for being eager. -2008-04-27.txt:02:15:09: <evincarofautumn> Heh. -2008-04-27.txt:02:15:21: <evincarofautumn> There are LISP programmers out there who would kill you for saying that. -2008-04-27.txt:02:16:05: <evincarofautumn> Sho' you right. -2008-04-27.txt:02:19:27: <evincarofautumn> Bah. -2008-04-27.txt:02:19:43: <evincarofautumn> I just got into writing a new one of my own. -2008-04-27.txt:02:20:39: <evincarofautumn> All right. -2008-04-27.txt:02:21:02: <evincarofautumn> Limited number of variables, unlimited stack. -2008-04-27.txt:02:21:11: <evincarofautumn> You have to select a variable to perform an operation on it. -2008-04-27.txt:02:21:35: <evincarofautumn> Otherwise it's locked, and accessing it raises an exception. -2008-04-27.txt:02:22:23: <evincarofautumn> Yeah. -2008-04-27.txt:02:22:30: <evincarofautumn> I'm thinking of taking the locking concept to the extreme. -2008-04-27.txt:02:22:50: <evincarofautumn> Basically there's one unlocked block of program code at startup -2008-04-27.txt:02:23:05: <evincarofautumn> and the interpreter loops through the entire source until all of the blocks are locked. -2008-04-27.txt:02:23:17: <evincarofautumn> Blocks are named, and can be locked/unlocked arbitrarily. -2008-04-27.txt:02:23:36: <evincarofautumn> Yep. -2008-04-27.txt:02:23:52: <evincarofautumn> I could call it mutex. -2008-04-27.txt:02:24:14: <evincarofautumn> Come to think of it, that's just what I'll do. -2008-04-27.txt:02:24:17: <evincarofautumn> Yeah. -2008-04-27.txt:02:24:35: <evincarofautumn> Hm. -2008-04-27.txt:02:24:47: <evincarofautumn> I have to get working on this. -2008-04-27.txt:02:25:11: <evincarofautumn> I'll toss it on the wiki today or tomorrow. -2008-04-27.txt:02:25:50: <evincarofautumn> All right. -2008-04-27.txt:02:25:54: <evincarofautumn> Guess I'm outta here then. -2008-04-27.txt:02:26:07: <evincarofautumn> It's been nice talking. -2008-04-27.txt:02:26:13: -!- evincarofautumn has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]"). -2008-04-27.txt:16:07:13: -!- evincarofautumn has joined #esoteric. -2008-04-27.txt:16:07:35: <evincarofautumn> Word, folk. -2008-04-27.txt:16:14:31: <ehird> hello evincarofautumn -2008-04-27.txt:16:14:39: <ehird> evincar -2008-04-27.txt:16:16:57: <ehird> evincarofautumn: no? -2008-04-27.txt:16:31:46: -!- evincarofautumn has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). -2008-04-27.txt:16:43:52: -!- evincarofautumn has joined #esoteric. -2008-04-27.txt:16:46:03: <evincarofautumn> Okay. -2008-04-27.txt:16:46:13: <evincarofautumn> Now that my internet has stopped dying. -2008-04-27.txt:16:47:28: <ehird> evincarofautumn: /nick evincar -2008-04-27.txt:16:47:41: -!- evincarofautumn is now known as eoa. -2008-04-27.txt:16:49:41: <ehird> eoa: evincar is easier to type -2008-04-27.txt:16:51:35: <ais523> eoa is easier to type than evincar -2008-04-27.txt:16:51:56: -!- eoa is now known as evincar. -2008-04-27.txt:16:52:09: <ehird> evincar: you'll probably want to register that -2008-04-27.txt:16:53:53: <evincar> Heh. Thanks. -2008-04-27.txt:16:54:16: <evincar> How should I cat this? -2008-04-27.txt:16:55:11: <evincar> I'm thinking Languages, Low-level, Unimplemented, 2008? -2008-04-27.txt:16:56:04: <ais523> evincar: I think that lang's a push-down automaton -2008-04-27.txt:16:56:41: <evincar> Numbers are unbounded. -2008-04-27.txt:16:57:02: <evincar> Cools. -2008-04-27.txt:16:57:09: <evincar> Not quite a tarpit, though. -2008-04-27.txt:16:59:08: <evincar> Ha! -[too many lines; stopping]
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--- a/paste/paste.28199 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,301 +0,0 @@ -2003-07-09.txt:03:34:23: <lament> And hq9+!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2003-07-09.txt:03:34:23: <lament> And hq9+!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2003-07-30.txt:20:33:42: <lament> !!!!!!! -2003-07-30.txt:20:33:42: <lament> !!!!!!! -2004-05-04.txt:04:31:02: <heatsink> else: print "unknown comand!!111 AHR AHR U SUX0R" -2004-05-04.txt:04:31:02: <heatsink> else: print "unknown comand!!111 AHR AHR U SUX0R" -2004-05-30.txt:17:17:58: <Keymaker> nNOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! -2004-05-30.txt:17:17:58: <Keymaker> nNOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! -2004-12-02.txt:03:47:52: <lament> !!!!!!!! -2004-12-02.txt:03:47:52: <lament> !!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:10: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:10: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:11: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:12: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:12: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:13: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:14: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:15: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:17: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:10: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:10: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:11: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:12: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:12: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:13: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:14: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:15: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-01-21.txt:18:51:17: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!! -2005-02-11.txt:15:42:03: <Keymaker> rhh.. i've waited for long to have some spare time, and now i can't get doing anything or get started doing anything. :( unfair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-02-11.txt:15:42:03: <Keymaker> rhh.. i've waited for long to have some spare time, and now i can't get doing anything or get started doing anything. :( unfair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-02-27.txt:08:11:56: <Keymaker> aaaaarrrgghhhhh it's too strong! nooooooooooooo!!!!!!! -2005-02-27.txt:08:11:56: <Keymaker> aaaaarrrgghhhhh it's too strong! nooooooooooooo!!!!!!! -2005-03-07.txt:17:21:25: <Keymaker> {^Raven^}: fl0at is evlil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-03-07.txt:17:21:25: <Keymaker> {^Raven^}: fl0at is evlil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-03-09.txt:15:46:03: <Keymaker> and to anyone: PLEASE CHECK THE LBFC TOPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-03-09.txt:15:46:03: <Keymaker> and to anyone: PLEASE CHECK THE LBFC TOPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-03-30.txt:14:05:40: <Keymaker> NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-03-30.txt:14:05:40: <Keymaker> NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-04-14.txt:17:50:39: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-04-14.txt:17:50:39: <Keymaker> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-04-15.txt:19:42:43: <Keymaker> yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-04-15.txt:19:42:46: <Keymaker> solved it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-04-15.txt:19:42:43: <Keymaker> yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-04-15.txt:19:42:46: <Keymaker> solved it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-04-18.txt:19:18:00: <Keymaker> annoying school work done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-04-18.txt:19:18:00: <Keymaker> annoying school work done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-04-19.txt:18:19:07: <Keymaker> and by the way, have you worked on the kipple interpreter? i wanna program in kipple!!!!!! -2005-04-19.txt:18:19:07: <Keymaker> and by the way, have you worked on the kipple interpreter? i wanna program in kipple!!!!!! -2005-05-05.txt:04:29:34: <GregorR> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-05.txt:04:29:34: <GregorR> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-06.txt:07:54:37: <GregorR-L> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-06.txt:07:54:41: <GregorR-L> I MADE A QUINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 -2005-05-06.txt:07:54:37: <GregorR-L> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-06.txt:07:54:41: <GregorR-L> I MADE A QUINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 -2005-05-07.txt:03:16:21: <GregorR> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-07.txt:03:16:28: <GregorR> MY BF INTERPRETER (missing features) WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-07.txt:03:16:21: <GregorR> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-07.txt:03:16:28: <GregorR> MY BF INTERPRETER (missing features) WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-11.txt:04:51:40: <Keymaker> but i wanna get coding!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-11.txt:05:15:36: <Keymaker> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-11.txt:05:30:44: <Keymaker> NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! -2005-05-11.txt:04:51:40: <Keymaker> but i wanna get coding!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-11.txt:05:15:36: <Keymaker> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-11.txt:05:30:44: <Keymaker> NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! -2005-05-12.txt:15:29:03: <Keymaker> i'm alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111 -2005-05-12.txt:15:29:03: <Keymaker> i'm alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111 -2005-05-13.txt:14:05:40: <Keymaker> hahaha!!!!!!!! -2005-05-13.txt:14:05:40: <Keymaker> hahaha!!!!!!!! -2005-05-17.txt:19:48:33: <Keymaker> look, here they come again! power off!!!!11 YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-17.txt:19:48:33: <Keymaker> look, here they come again! power off!!!!11 YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-18.txt:23:33:20: <GregorR-L> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! -2005-05-18.txt:23:33:22: <GregorR-L> IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-18.txt:23:33:20: <GregorR-L> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! -2005-05-18.txt:23:33:22: <GregorR-L> IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-24.txt:23:33:24: <graue> well, the problem then is, some jerk can just add a paragraph to a page and say "Everything on here is now (c) me all rights reserved, ha ha ha!!!!!" and infect the page with viral copyright -2005-05-24.txt:23:33:24: <graue> well, the problem then is, some jerk can just add a paragraph to a page and say "Everything on here is now (c) me all rights reserved, ha ha ha!!!!!" and infect the page with viral copyright -2005-05-25.txt:00:40:11: <GregorR> But the main would know it, and could put a big red banner on the page saying "THIS MIRROR IS DOWN!!!!!!!!" -2005-05-25.txt:07:37:11: <GregorR-L> ALL HAIL CPRESSEY!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-25.txt:00:40:11: <GregorR> But the main would know it, and could put a big red banner on the page saying "THIS MIRROR IS DOWN!!!!!!!!" -2005-05-25.txt:07:37:11: <GregorR-L> ALL HAIL CPRESSEY!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-26.txt:00:26:28: <GregorR-L> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-26.txt:00:26:28: <GregorR-L> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-05-27.txt:23:09:11: <Keymaker> i hate computers!!!!1 -2005-05-27.txt:23:09:11: <Keymaker> i hate computers!!!!1 -2005-06-02.txt:19:52:32: <Keymaker> this channel is TOO active!!!!!! :p -2005-06-02.txt:19:53:03: <Keymaker> i don't have time to read them nor think about them!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-06-02.txt:19:52:32: <Keymaker> this channel is TOO active!!!!!! :p -2005-06-02.txt:19:53:03: <Keymaker> i don't have time to read them nor think about them!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-06-09.txt:22:22:31: <Keymaker> calamari: wow!!!!! -2005-06-09.txt:22:22:31: <Keymaker> calamari: wow!!!!! -2005-06-12.txt:00:35:41: <Keymaker> but one shouldn't use other sizes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-06-12.txt:00:35:41: <Keymaker> but one shouldn't use other sizes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-06-13.txt:01:10:09: <GregorR> 00000000 becomes 11111111 becomes 00000001 -2005-06-13.txt:01:10:19: <GregorR> 00000001 becomes 11111110 --- never mind, I'm dumb. -2005-06-13.txt:01:10:09: <GregorR> 00000000 becomes 11111111 becomes 00000001 -2005-06-13.txt:01:10:19: <GregorR> 00000001 becomes 11111110 --- never mind, I'm dumb. -2005-06-15.txt:20:06:51: <Keymaker> wow wow wow wow awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-06-15.txt:20:39:15: <Keymaker> RGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-06-15.txt:20:06:51: <Keymaker> wow wow wow wow awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-06-15.txt:20:39:15: <Keymaker> RGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-06-18.txt:00:18:59: <Keymaker> i'll complain for weeks how stupid i am, when it's gone and i can read from web how scooter fans say "AWESOME GIG!!!!!" -2005-06-18.txt:00:43:39: <Keymaker> aargh seagulls!!!!!! -2005-06-18.txt:00:18:59: <Keymaker> i'll complain for weeks how stupid i am, when it's gone and i can read from web how scooter fans say "AWESOME GIG!!!!!" -2005-06-18.txt:00:43:39: <Keymaker> aargh seagulls!!!!!! -2005-06-25.txt:23:45:05: <Keymaker> d'oh!!!!!! -2005-06-25.txt:23:45:05: <Keymaker> d'oh!!!!!! -2005-06-26.txt:23:30:19: <Keymaker> yeah, everything can be done with brainfuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-06-26.txt:23:30:19: <Keymaker> yeah, everything can be done with brainfuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-16.txt:14:05:28: <Keymaker> YEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-16.txt:14:05:28: <Keymaker> YEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-20.txt:19:33:27: <Keymaker> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrghhhh!!!!! -2005-07-20.txt:21:44:01: <GregorR> Everyone!!!!!!! :P -2005-07-20.txt:19:33:27: <Keymaker> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrghhhh!!!!! -2005-07-20.txt:21:44:01: <GregorR> Everyone!!!!!!! :P -2005-07-23.txt:08:36:01: <GregorR> YES!!!!! -2005-07-23.txt:08:36:01: <GregorR> YES!!!!! -2005-07-24.txt:09:29:37: <GregorR> YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-24.txt:09:29:37: <GregorR> YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-26.txt:03:17:00: <GregorR> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-26.txt:03:17:04: <GregorR> YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-26.txt:03:17:10: <GregorR> egobfc2m just ran mandelbrot!!!!!!!!!!1 -2005-07-26.txt:05:05:27: <GregorR> OH WAIT!!!!!!!!!!! Does it need 16-bit words? -2005-07-26.txt:15:53:45: <Keymaker> SWITCH!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-26.txt:03:17:00: <GregorR> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-26.txt:03:17:04: <GregorR> YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-26.txt:03:17:10: <GregorR> egobfc2m just ran mandelbrot!!!!!!!!!!1 -2005-07-26.txt:05:05:27: <GregorR> OH WAIT!!!!!!!!!!! Does it need 16-bit words? -2005-07-26.txt:15:53:45: <Keymaker> SWITCH!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-27.txt:07:31:04: <GregorR> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-27.txt:07:31:07: <GregorR> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-27.txt:07:31:11: <GregorR> I AM THE CHAMPION!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-27.txt:07:31:19: <GregorR> I HAVE NO HUMILITY AND YET I DON'T CARE!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-27.txt:07:31:04: <GregorR> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-27.txt:07:31:07: <GregorR> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-27.txt:07:31:11: <GregorR> I AM THE CHAMPION!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-27.txt:07:31:19: <GregorR> I HAVE NO HUMILITY AND YET I DON'T CARE!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-28.txt:23:17:48: <GregorR> Muahahahaha ... BWAHAHAHAHA ... GAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-07-28.txt:23:17:48: <GregorR> Muahahahaha ... BWAHAHAHAHA ... GAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-08-08.txt:22:41:33: <GregorR> *BOOOOOOOM!!!!!!* -2005-08-08.txt:22:44:29: <GregorR> G-ASP!!!!!! calamari said something nasty about our wonderful fantastic president who can have me murdered under the PATRIOT act if I say anything bad about his majesty. -2005-08-08.txt:22:41:33: <GregorR> *BOOOOOOOM!!!!!!* -2005-08-08.txt:22:44:29: <GregorR> G-ASP!!!!!! calamari said something nasty about our wonderful fantastic president who can have me murdered under the PATRIOT act if I say anything bad about his majesty. -2005-08-11.txt:00:51:52: <GregorR> NO!!!! XML IS ALWAYS BETTER!!!!! BUZZWORD = GOOD!!!! -2005-08-11.txt:00:51:52: <GregorR> NO!!!! XML IS ALWAYS BETTER!!!!! BUZZWORD = GOOD!!!! -2005-08-12.txt:16:54:18: <GregorR> CMYK*A (* = THE UNFATHOMABLE COLOR OF DOOOOOOOM!!!!!) -2005-08-12.txt:22:36:20: * Keymaker 's head explodes!!!!! -2005-08-12.txt:16:54:18: <GregorR> CMYK*A (* = THE UNFATHOMABLE COLOR OF DOOOOOOOM!!!!!) -2005-08-12.txt:22:36:20: * Keymaker 's head explodes!!!!! -2005-08-17.txt:16:52:25: <Kmkr> NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! -2005-08-17.txt:20:34:57: <Gs30ng> HURRAH FOR ALL THE ESOLANG!!!!!! -2005-08-17.txt:16:52:25: <Kmkr> NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! -2005-08-17.txt:20:34:57: <Gs30ng> HURRAH FOR ALL THE ESOLANG!!!!!! -2005-08-19.txt:04:00:23: <GregorR> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-08-19.txt:04:00:38: <GregorR> And also, YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-08-19.txt:04:00:23: <GregorR> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-08-19.txt:04:00:38: <GregorR> And also, YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-08-23.txt:00:53:46: <GregorR-W> Because if you knew the truth, /IT WOULD HAUNT YOU FOR ALL ETERNITY/!!!!! -2005-08-23.txt:00:53:46: <GregorR-W> Because if you knew the truth, /IT WOULD HAUNT YOU FOR ALL ETERNITY/!!!!! -2005-09-19.txt:17:24:01: <grim_> you can already do bf-ish 111111+++++ -2005-09-19.txt:17:24:01: <grim_> you can already do bf-ish 111111+++++ -2005-09-21.txt:04:12:24: <GregorR> kipple: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *sobs* -2005-09-21.txt:21:48:04: <GregorR> Can't talk now, I'm going to get MOXIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 -2005-09-21.txt:04:12:24: <GregorR> kipple: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *sobs* -2005-09-21.txt:21:48:04: <GregorR> Can't talk now, I'm going to get MOXIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 -2005-09-22.txt:07:21:21: <GregorR> I'M A MONSTER!!!!!!!!!! -2005-09-22.txt:07:21:21: <GregorR> I'M A MONSTER!!!!!!!!!! -2005-09-23.txt:03:01:35: <GregorR> Hi!!!!!!!! -2005-09-23.txt:19:15:09: <GregorR> OMFG!!!!!!!! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES, IT'S GRIM UNDERSCORE UNDERSCORE UNDERSCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-09-23.txt:03:01:35: <GregorR> Hi!!!!!!!! -2005-09-23.txt:19:15:09: <GregorR> OMFG!!!!!!!! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES, IT'S GRIM UNDERSCORE UNDERSCORE UNDERSCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-09-26.txt:02:30:59: <Wildhalcyon> so, if you "unfold" it without the reverse symbol, you should get 111!1!++1!1!++1!1!++... hmm, no, you're right -2005-09-26.txt:02:30:59: <Wildhalcyon> so, if you "unfold" it without the reverse symbol, you should get 111!1!++1!1!++1!1!++... hmm, no, you're right -2005-09-30.txt:20:28:55: <GregorR-L> AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! -2005-09-30.txt:20:28:55: <GregorR-L> AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! -2005-10-04.txt:07:53:17: * GregorR is .... THE UDAGE KILLERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-10-04.txt:07:53:17: * GregorR is .... THE UDAGE KILLERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-10-13.txt:02:53:18: <GregorR> EUREKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-10-13.txt:02:53:18: <GregorR> EUREKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-10-14.txt:19:39:53: <Keymaker> nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-10-14.txt:19:39:53: <Keymaker> nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-10-19.txt:23:35:43: * GregorR is .... THE FALSEBOT SLAYERRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!! -2005-10-19.txt:23:35:43: * GregorR is .... THE FALSEBOT SLAYERRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!! -2005-10-20.txt:03:21:06: <falsebot> 1111111110 -2005-10-20.txt:03:21:19: <calamari> !123456789012345678111111111111111111111111111111 987654321+. -2005-10-20.txt:03:21:19: <falsebot> 123456789012345678111111111111111111112098765432 -2005-10-20.txt:03:23:36: <lament> !111111~. -2005-10-20.txt:03:23:36: <falsebot> -111112 -2005-10-20.txt:03:23:40: <lament> !11111111111111111111111111~. -2005-10-20.txt:03:23:41: <falsebot> -11111111111111111111111112 -2005-10-20.txt:21:39:43: <Robdgreat> ZOMG!!!111 -2005-10-20.txt:03:21:06: <falsebot> 1111111110 -2005-10-20.txt:03:21:19: <calamari> !123456789012345678111111111111111111111111111111 987654321+. -2005-10-20.txt:03:21:19: <falsebot> 123456789012345678111111111111111111112098765432 -2005-10-20.txt:03:23:36: <lament> !111111~. -2005-10-20.txt:03:23:36: <falsebot> -111112 -2005-10-20.txt:03:23:40: <lament> !11111111111111111111111111~. -2005-10-20.txt:03:23:41: <falsebot> -11111111111111111111111112 -2005-10-20.txt:21:39:43: <Robdgreat> ZOMG!!!111 -2005-10-21.txt:04:26:56: <GregorR> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-10-21.txt:04:26:56: <GregorR> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-10-23.txt:20:56:25: <GregorR> cpressey: ASP .... DOT NET!!!!!? -2005-10-23.txt:20:56:25: <GregorR> cpressey: ASP .... DOT NET!!!!!? -2005-10-24.txt:21:05:33: <jix> glass fireing false and eso and BOTH fire back glass => exponential!!!!! -2005-10-24.txt:21:05:33: <jix> glass fireing false and eso and BOTH fire back glass => exponential!!!!! -2005-10-28.txt:04:32:13: <GregorR> FYB!!!!!! -2005-10-28.txt:04:33:32: <GregorR> AHHHHHHH, FYB FYB FFYB FYB FYB!!!!! -2005-10-28.txt:04:32:13: <GregorR> FYB!!!!!! -2005-10-28.txt:04:33:32: <GregorR> AHHHHHHH, FYB FYB FFYB FYB FYB!!!!! -2005-10-29.txt:00:21:06: <GregorR> DAMN YOU calamari!!!!!!!!!! -2005-10-29.txt:00:28:17: <GregorR> Hfffffffff!!!!! -2005-10-29.txt:01:59:13: <EgoBot> 110111001100010110010011101011100111010101100001100101011010101111110000111100010101110000010010110001110001101101101000000010001111101110100111000111010111000001100100011001111001111110000001111111011001011011100000101100011011000110001110110110010101111111011010110110111101110010111011000100000000001101110010110010111100100110000111110000001011011001111001000010011111000001101 -2005-10-29.txt:00:21:06: <GregorR> DAMN YOU calamari!!!!!!!!!! -2005-10-29.txt:00:28:17: <GregorR> Hfffffffff!!!!! -2005-10-29.txt:01:59:13: <EgoBot> 110111001100010110010011101011100111010101100001100101011010101111110000111100010101110000010010110001110001101101101000000010001111101110100111000111010111000001100100011001111001111110000001111111011001011011100000101100011011000110001110110110010101111111011010110110111101110010111011000100000000001101110010110010111100100110000111110000001011011001111001000010011111000001101 -2005-11-04.txt:05:07:20: <lament> c++ sucks!!!!! :D -2005-11-04.txt:05:07:20: <lament> c++ sucks!!!!! :D -2005-11-05.txt:20:32:35: <Keymaker> SCOOTER!!!!!!!! -2005-11-05.txt:20:32:35: <Keymaker> SCOOTER!!!!!!!! -2005-11-06.txt:22:19:40: <Robdgreat> HI!!!11ONE -2005-11-06.txt:22:19:40: <Robdgreat> HI!!!11ONE -2005-11-12.txt:18:44:25: <Keymaker> i may not win, but at least i have one working solution!!!!!! -2005-11-12.txt:18:44:25: <Keymaker> i may not win, but at least i have one working solution!!!!!! -2005-11-21.txt:02:18:47: <GregorR> MUTINY!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-11-21.txt:02:18:47: <GregorR> MUTINY!!!!!!!!!!!! -2005-11-22.txt:03:30:21: <GregorR> There's no /usr !!!!!!!!!!! >_O -2005-11-22.txt:03:30:21: <GregorR> There's no /usr !!!!!!!!!!! >_O -2005-12-04.txt:20:58:31: <GregorR> GASP YOU TYPED A CURSY WORD!!!!!!! -2005-12-04.txt:20:58:31: <GregorR> GASP YOU TYPED A CURSY WORD!!!!!!! -2005-12-21.txt:18:17:25: <nooga> YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 -2005-12-21.txt:20:18:30: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2005-12-21.txt:18:17:25: <nooga> YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 -2005-12-21.txt:20:18:30: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2005-12-28.txt:00:51:54: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2005-12-28.txt:00:51:54: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-01-04.txt:20:52:16: <ihope> OMGWTFBBQ unlmabda is hard!!!11one!~ -2006-01-04.txt:20:52:16: <ihope> OMGWTFBBQ unlmabda is hard!!!11one!~ -2006-01-13.txt:02:07:11: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-01-13.txt:22:34:57: <ihope> omg omg omg!!!!11 llol -2006-01-13.txt:02:07:11: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-01-13.txt:22:34:57: <ihope> omg omg omg!!!!11 llol -2006-01-14.txt:01:23:27: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-01-14.txt:23:09:37: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-01-14.txt:01:23:27: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-01-14.txt:23:09:37: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-01-16.txt:02:17:52: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-01-16.txt:02:17:52: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-01-18.txt:01:54:26: -!- ihope_ has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-01-18.txt:01:54:26: -!- ihope_ has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-01-20.txt:00:52:14: <Keymaker> NOOOOO!!!!! -2006-01-20.txt:07:53:53: -!- fungebob has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-01-20.txt:00:52:14: <Keymaker> NOOOOO!!!!! -2006-01-20.txt:07:53:53: -!- fungebob has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-01-25.txt:02:08:36: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-01-25.txt:02:08:36: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-01-31.txt:14:43:18: <Keymaker> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! -2006-01-31.txt:14:43:18: <Keymaker> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! -2006-02-02.txt:01:30:56: -!- fungebob has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-02-02.txt:11:10:03: <pgimeno> !!!!! -2006-02-02.txt:13:57:05: <nooga> he's 14 and he's writing interpreters in haskell and he knows lambda calculus and everything!!!!!! -2006-02-02.txt:01:30:56: -!- fungebob has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-02-02.txt:11:10:03: <pgimeno> !!!!! -2006-02-02.txt:13:57:05: <nooga> he's 14 and he's writing interpreters in haskell and he knows lambda calculus and everything!!!!!! -2006-02-03.txt:23:12:12: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-02-03.txt:23:12:12: -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116]"). -2006-02-04.txt:09:04:32: <GregorR_> Damn you peeeeeer!!!!!!!!! -2006-02-04.txt:09:04:32: <GregorR_> Damn you peeeeeer!!!!!!!!! -2006-02-10.txt:00:51:44: <GregorR-L> KONQUEROR!!!!!! -2006-02-10.txt:00:51:44: <GregorR-L> KONQUEROR!!!!!! -2006-02-13.txt:18:29:00: <GregorR> nooga: BASTARD!!!!!!!!! -2006-02-13.txt:18:29:00: <GregorR> nooga: BASTARD!!!!!!!!! -2006-03-03.txt:15:45:11: <RoboGregorR> c2bf supports arrays!!!!!!!!!! -2006-03-03.txt:15:45:11: <RoboGregorR> c2bf supports arrays!!!!!!!!!! -2006-03-04.txt:14:06:58: <calamari> g1mm3 0pzzzzzzzzz!!!!!11one -2006-03-04.txt:14:06:58: <calamari> g1mm3 0pzzzzzzzzz!!!!!11one -2006-04-22.txt:06:12:53: <GregorR> lament: DAMN YOU AND YOUR GOOD PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2006-04-22.txt:06:12:53: <GregorR> lament: DAMN YOU AND YOUR GOOD PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2006-04-30.txt:01:01:48: <lament> three hundred MILLION digits!!!!! -2006-04-30.txt:01:53:55: <ihope> "[-]+[]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -2006-04-30.txt:01:01:48: <lament> three hundred MILLION digits!!!!! -2006-04-30.txt:01:53:55: <ihope> "[-]+[]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -2006-05-02.txt:20:48:03: <ihope> It can parse anything!!1!!!1!111!!! -2006-05-02.txt:20:48:03: <ihope> It can parse anything!!1!!!1!111!!! -2006-05-16.txt:20:39:26: * jix IS OVERCLOCKING HIS GP2X OMGLOL11111 -2006-05-16.txt:20:39:26: * jix IS OVERCLOCKING HIS GP2X OMGLOL11111 -2006-05-19.txt:22:56:50: <ihope> You know, translated into English, that's "STDUIYGN IS 4 LMERAS!!!1!!!1!!1!!1!! :-D :-D :-D l0l" -2006-05-19.txt:22:56:50: <ihope> You know, translated into English, that's "STDUIYGN IS 4 LMERAS!!!1!!!1!!1!!1!! :-D :-D :-D l0l" -2006-05-25.txt:06:42:24: <rabidpoobear> !whirl 011000001111000011111000001111000011111000001111000 -2006-05-25.txt:06:42:24: <rabidpoobear> 011111000001100100000110011111000111000111100011001 -2006-05-25.txt:06:42:24: <rabidpoobear> 11000000000111110001000111110011001111100010001100 -2006-05-25.txt:06:42:24: <rabidpoobear> !whirl 011000001111000011111000001111000011111000001111000 -2006-05-25.txt:06:42:24: <rabidpoobear> 011111000001100100000110011111000111000111100011001 -2006-05-25.txt:06:42:24: <rabidpoobear> 11000000000111110001000111110011001111100010001100 -2006-05-26.txt:08:48:58: <SimonRC> !!!!! http://thedailywtf.com/forums/permalink/74461/74568/ShowThread.aspx#74568 -2006-05-26.txt:08:48:58: <SimonRC> !!!!! http://thedailywtf.com/forums/permalink/74461/74568/ShowThread.aspx#74568 -2006-05-29.txt:05:02:09: <coder_> DIE JAVA!!!!!!!! >:D -2006-05-29.txt:05:02:09: <coder_> DIE JAVA!!!!!!!! >:D -2006-05-30.txt:02:36:30: <ihope> I doubt it will be "OMG THE BEST GAME EVAR!!!@!!!!1!!!!!1!1" that many fans think it will be, but I think it will be pretty durn good. -2006-05-30.txt:02:36:30: <ihope> I doubt it will be "OMG THE BEST GAME EVAR!!!@!!!!1!!!!!1!1" that many fans think it will be, but I think it will be pretty durn good. -2006-06-06.txt:19:02:23: <lament> oh, i got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -2006-06-06.txt:19:02:23: <lament> oh, i got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -[too many lines; stopping]
--- a/paste/paste.28391 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,301 +0,0 @@ -2006-06-13.txt:00:43:46: <oerjan> is that a bug? -2006-09-28.txt:20:01:45: <oerjan> boblol: was that what your 196 message the other day was about? -2006-10-01.txt:20:21:49: <oerjan> thoughts? on nonlogic? -2006-10-01.txt:20:30:05: <oerjan> hm, am i right if i guess that a BFM program can only access the named variables, and no other locations? -2006-10-01.txt:20:36:26: <oerjan> but will arbitrary inline code not wreak havoc with variable positioning? -2006-10-01.txt:20:56:56: <oerjan> or, left, right and at just tell the macro processor the effect of inlined code, right? -2006-10-01.txt:21:02:57: <oerjan> hm, there is a problem here, what about left and right inside while? -2006-10-01.txt:21:17:08: <oerjan> have you tested it? -2006-10-01.txt:21:18:00: <oerjan> how can it be, when proc right clearly contains incr ::location? -2006-10-01.txt:21:25:57: <oerjan> yes.but why do some procs have _ at the begining of their name? -2006-10-01.txt:21:32:08: <oerjan> what does the array command do? -2006-10-02.txt:20:55:20: <oerjan> who was that lambda? -2006-10-02.txt:21:40:47: <oerjan> obviously? -2006-10-03.txt:19:04:21: <oerjan> what bug? -2006-10-03.txt:19:13:42: <oerjan> if twenty -> twnt, then twentyone -> ? -2006-10-03.txt:19:23:06: <oerjan> btw, is there any difference between ghost and recover? -2006-10-03.txt:19:36:01: <oerjan> BFM? -2006-10-05.txt:01:19:06: <oerjan> hm, global C arrays are initialized to zero, aren't they? -2006-10-05.txt:02:18:48: <oerjan> the program stopped. probably not zeros to the left of the array memory? -2006-10-05.txt:12:12:58: <oerjan> oh? -2006-10-05.txt:12:14:31: <oerjan> are you using the interpreter referenced from the wiki? -2006-10-05.txt:12:51:21: <oerjan> simonRC: i thought maybe that's where the golf started? -2006-10-05.txt:13:24:18: <oerjan> oh. but your nick is hungarian right? -2006-10-05.txt:13:33:10: <oerjan> could someone confirm whether global C arrays are zero initialized? -2006-10-05.txt:20:07:39: <oerjan> can we see the winning solution? -2006-10-05.txt:23:18:47: <oerjan> what's wrong with wc? -2006-10-05.txt:23:19:05: <oerjan> ah, not too good on punctuation maybe? -2006-10-05.txt:23:28:30: <oerjan> hm. anyone got below 38 without wrapping? -2006-10-05.txt:23:38:35: <oerjan> pikhq: did you use any computer search to get the offsets for the first loop? -2006-10-07.txt:00:38:28: <oerjan> Huh? -2006-10-07.txt:01:44:24: <oerjan> why what? -2006-10-07.txt:01:46:11: <oerjan> or where you thinking of something more important? -2006-10-08.txt:13:38:02: <oerjan> ahem. in non-wrapping brainfuck? -2006-10-08.txt:14:46:18: <oerjan> is it out of process space? -2006-10-08.txt:21:33:24: <oerjan> pastebin? -2006-10-08.txt:21:39:10: <oerjan> hm... have all the included files been tested? -2006-10-08.txt:21:42:36: <oerjan> um, what direction does copy x y z copy? and which is the temporary? -2006-10-08.txt:21:54:30: <oerjan> does booland preserve its arguments? -2006-10-09.txt:00:21:52: <oerjan> hm, do you consider it necessary to zero out temp variables that aren't used? -2006-10-09.txt:01:37:49: <oerjan> did you get the booland arguments in the right order? -2006-10-09.txt:01:38:55: <oerjan> so the second argument is the result? -2006-10-09.txt:02:02:18: <oerjan> Did subvar also previously take its result in the first argument? -2006-10-09.txt:02:13:35: <oerjan> is mod working? -2006-10-09.txt:02:18:30: <oerjan> are the correct a1, a2, a3 calculated? -2006-10-09.txt:02:53:52: <oerjan> something wrong? -2006-10-09.txt:02:55:45: <oerjan> is this the mod macro that seemed to work before? -2006-10-09.txt:02:56:37: <oerjan> the one i suggested? -2006-10-09.txt:03:09:16: <oerjan> and are you using the newest stdlib? -2006-10-09.txt:03:13:18: <oerjan> ? -2006-10-09.txt:03:13:52: <oerjan> you mean there is something wrong with divvar from the start? -2006-10-09.txt:03:17:31: <oerjan> is the new input/output/temp separation working properly? -2006-10-09.txt:03:21:46: <oerjan> is it working anyhow? -2006-10-09.txt:03:50:32: <oerjan> heh. if you remove all instances of [-] from the output, what is its length then? -2006-10-09.txt:13:53:31: <oerjan> what? -2006-10-09.txt:13:56:38: <oerjan> the positioning trap again? -2006-10-09.txt:14:08:06: <oerjan> how does the redundancy check work inside while loops? -2006-10-09.txt:14:12:50: <oerjan> and at the beginning does it empty the list? -2006-10-10.txt:23:12:34: <oerjan> not gzip? -2006-10-11.txt:02:22:52: <oerjan> what was that about? -2006-10-12.txt:23:20:02: <oerjan> hm. it seems to me that strange things can happen if you put the @ procedure anywhere but at the top of your program. shouldn't there be a check for this? -2006-10-13.txt:23:30:14: <oerjan> what about it? -2006-10-14.txt:22:04:00: <oerjan> what, is there something wrong with Haskell now? -2006-10-14.txt:22:07:17: <oerjan> i think this is not going very well. is there not some esoteric programming language based on silence we could use for assistance? -2006-10-14.txt:22:08:45: <oerjan> what is metric time? -2006-10-15.txt:01:22:25: <oerjan> what does it compile to? C? -2006-10-15.txt:01:22:35: <oerjan> asm? -2006-10-17.txt:03:19:34: <oerjan> perhaps. for the time being, have you tried compiling basm.b with basm.b? -2006-10-17.txt:03:51:29: <oerjan> are you storing the length of >>>>>>>> runs in single cells? -2006-10-17.txt:04:01:28: <oerjan> how big is it? -2006-10-17.txt:04:34:01: <oerjan> we all are insane here. what's the matter? -2006-10-19.txt:06:01:15: <oerjan> if you are clearing the cells anyways, isn't ignoring a 0x00 just to use [.[-]] instead of .? -2006-10-20.txt:17:45:41: <oerjan> question: for the 1-cell case, do you still want the macro to take a second argument for uniformity? -2006-10-20.txt:18:48:48: <oerjan> aha. is there a new tarball? -2006-10-21.txt:20:28:17: <oerjan> what, no Unicode? -2006-10-21.txt:20:32:33: <oerjan> statements are one thing, but what about expressions? -2006-10-21.txt:20:33:32: <oerjan> surely you don't want to restrict this language to only imperative features? -2006-10-21.txt:20:42:26: <oerjan> what do you mean, _or_? -2006-10-22.txt:15:51:28: <oerjan> so that we don't get to close the holes by just doing simple tricks? -2006-10-22.txt:16:15:05: <oerjan> and still this is the largest part of the program? -2006-10-22.txt:16:23:47: <oerjan> these out* macros, are they that way to avoid long stretches of > and < ? -2006-10-22.txt:16:33:19: <oerjan> that part setting sc looks suspiciously like cons57 followed by add 2. why not use cons59 instead? -2006-10-22.txt:16:41:39: <oerjan> what's inefficient about it? -2006-10-22.txt:17:21:16: <oerjan> wow, it apparently was a widespread problem then. what was the size before? -2006-10-23.txt:00:23:04: <oerjan> what do you mean by nonstandard? -2006-10-23.txt:00:35:07: <oerjan> have you tried? -2006-10-23.txt:23:03:52: <oerjan> no. what is COBOL's ALTER? -2006-10-23.txt:23:06:15: <oerjan> worse than ALGOL's for? -2006-10-24.txt:00:15:20: <oerjan> in the sense of CASVS: the order of statements in different branches don't matter? -2006-10-24.txt:00:24:41: <oerjan> what? -2006-10-24.txt:00:36:43: <oerjan> what is ABCDEF? -2006-10-24.txt:00:48:24: <oerjan> where? -2006-10-24.txt:00:55:28: <oerjan> what number is that rule? -2006-10-24.txt:17:21:51: <oerjan> in general having comments go into the bf code may not be a good idea if the point is to make the result as short as possible. Maybe an alternative command? -2006-10-24.txt:17:28:32: <oerjan> perhaps rename "comment" to "inline"? -2006-10-24.txt:17:35:05: <oerjan> has there been any other changes to basm.bfm since then? -2006-10-25.txt:19:35:43: <oerjan> something that starts to worry me about the source command: am i right that it doesn't check whether a file has been sourced before? -2006-10-26.txt:21:31:37: <oerjan> you mean like add {x y z} 3? -2006-10-26.txt:21:46:29: <oerjan> is this some kind of implicit argument iteration for all macros? -2006-10-26.txt:21:56:43: <oerjan> problems? -2006-10-26.txt:22:05:17: <oerjan> what is the literal code? -2006-10-26.txt:22:09:16: <oerjan> might $args happen to be a string rather than a list? -2006-10-26.txt:22:45:35: <oerjan> and you are sure that there is no bug in LostKng.b itself? -2006-10-26.txt:22:49:05: <oerjan> right. have you use the new stdcons macros in basm? -2006-10-28.txt:23:30:00: <oerjan> hmph. no blinkenlights? -2006-10-29.txt:02:00:57: <oerjan> asztal: does britain change back tonight too? -2006-10-30.txt:21:31:31: <oerjan> like they did 30 years ago? -2006-11-02.txt:00:59:45: <oerjan> but if two stacks can emulate a tape, isn't this then essensially a three-stack language? -2006-11-02.txt:02:30:25: <oerjan> indexed? -2006-11-02.txt:02:40:22: <oerjan> what about x=not x ? -2006-11-02.txt:02:41:48: <oerjan> how is there a type error? -2006-11-02.txt:03:07:04: <oerjan> what kind of hooks are these? -2006-11-02.txt:03:08:09: <oerjan> ah, this thing i've heard mentioned called aspect oriented programming? -2006-11-02.txt:04:00:21: <oerjan> !Huh? -2006-11-02.txt:05:01:53: <oerjan> esoteric? -2006-11-03.txt:04:23:30: <oerjan> how do you set nonblocking in C? -2006-11-03.txt:04:27:15: <oerjan> but getc would block anyhow wouldn't it? -2006-11-03.txt:04:27:44: <oerjan> are you trying to change terminal settings? -2006-11-03.txt:04:29:06: <oerjan> you succeeded? -2006-11-03.txt:04:31:23: <oerjan> right. however doesn't that prevent you from detecting real EOF? -2006-11-03.txt:05:05:03: <oerjan> one thing i worried about - won't that nonblock program write a horrible lot of nuls? -2006-11-04.txt:01:17:46: <oerjan> what is Erna, apart from a Norwegian party leader? -2006-11-04.txt:01:27:37: <oerjan> if you say so. you couldn't get gregorR to send me a couple million dollars? -2006-11-04.txt:21:28:45: <oerjan> perl? -2006-11-04.txt:22:05:15: <oerjan> there is room for a finger in that? -2006-11-04.txt:22:43:06: <oerjan> do you use the -w flag? -2006-11-04.txt:23:02:57: <oerjan> RTG: i note you are writing $x++;$ctr++ if $p[$x]=="["; . you are not wrongly assuming that the if would scope over both statements? -2006-11-04.txt:23:12:47: <oerjan> do you have an example program and input that goes wrong? -2006-11-04.txt:23:27:56: <oerjan> what was it, apart from the @p array being strangely empty? -2006-11-04.txt:23:32:59: <oerjan> does it work when you change to string comparison? -2006-11-05.txt:00:39:27: <oerjan> or should that be terts? -2006-11-05.txt:01:00:46: <oerjan> that counts as a bug these days? -2006-11-06.txt:01:43:24: <oerjan> are you referring to the game of life (in which case you are being silly) or do i need to explain lorentz transformations? -2006-11-17.txt:21:37:12: <oerjan> you don't mean 1982? -2006-11-17.txt:21:39:01: <oerjan> did they still use only 28 kilobytes anywhere in 1992? -2006-11-22.txt:03:11:45: <oerjan> isn't that borschtsch? -2006-11-23.txt:00:46:56: <oerjan> should or should one not dip one's finger into the water? -2006-11-25.txt:23:50:11: <oerjan> what is zipping? -2006-11-25.txt:23:56:24: <oerjan> perhaps python? -2006-11-26.txt:02:59:55: <oerjan> did we kill EgoBot again? -2006-12-02.txt:23:43:19: <oerjan> how is optimization smarter? -2006-12-08.txt:01:19:13: <oerjan> japanese, as translated by a korean into english? -2006-12-08.txt:03:25:16: <oerjan> -ing as in present participle? -2006-12-09.txt:01:37:26: <oerjan> eval? -2006-12-09.txt:01:49:51: <oerjan> you are crazy enough to ask ''us''? -2006-12-10.txt:20:34:18: <oerjan> Would it be impolite of me to shorten the Deadfish interpreter? -2006-12-10.txt:20:52:47: <oerjan> But it doesn't discard the rest of the line, does it? -2006-12-10.txt:21:03:41: <oerjan> Since when? -2006-12-10.txt:22:45:07: <oerjan> can every FSA be implemented with just while and case (getc()) statements? -2006-12-10.txt:23:48:09: <oerjan> what kind of language is it you want to translate into by the way? -2006-12-11.txt:01:12:13: <oerjan> but what is dgf? -2006-12-11.txt:18:04:21: <SimonRC> 01:05 < oerjan> but what is dgf? -2006-12-17.txt:20:58:27: <oerjan> on the other hand, since you have to give the length in advance, why not just enlarge the file itself first? -2006-12-21.txt:00:15:17: <oerjan> what, chemical programming? have you heard of the gamma calculus? -2006-12-21.txt:01:02:06: <oerjan> have you tried using y combinators for recursion? -2006-12-21.txt:01:13:20: <oerjan> why do you want to match dude only at the beginning? -2006-12-21.txt:01:13:44: <oerjan> well then, what is wrong with it? -2006-12-21.txt:03:15:08: <oerjan> are you sure that is quite right for 0? -2006-12-21.txt:03:51:28: <oerjan> but what should the acronym stand for? -2006-12-21.txt:23:07:46: <oerjan> !Huh? -2006-12-21.txt:23:26:37: <oerjan> because whatever errors you actually put in it probably are f***ing moron errors? -2006-12-24.txt:01:33:28: <oerjan> the "Hello World"? what's the problem? -2006-12-24.txt:01:35:52: <oerjan> is the string zero-terminated? -2006-12-24.txt:01:36:49: <oerjan> at some point you probably load the current character into some cell, right? -2006-12-24.txt:02:12:32: <oerjan> even? -2006-12-24.txt:02:13:34: <oerjan> what is? -2006-12-24.txt:02:17:48: <oerjan> what was the point of the quitp WRITE -1 anyhow? -2006-12-24.txt:03:10:22: <oerjan> hm... make that char char CODESTART? -2006-12-24.txt:03:25:16: <oerjan> NULL, READ, WRITE and QUIT? -2006-12-24.txt:04:32:46: <oerjan> general numbers or up to a limit? -2006-12-24.txt:05:13:29: <oerjan> what for? -2006-12-24.txt:05:14:49: <oerjan> are you just making general tools? -2006-12-24.txt:05:31:28: <oerjan> and how is that a problem? -2006-12-24.txt:05:33:07: <oerjan> you mean to put it in the function's stack frame? -2006-12-24.txt:05:36:00: <oerjan> do you see any function calls in that code? -2006-12-25.txt:12:12:00: <oerjan> photographic memory of telephones? -2006-12-26.txt:22:53:19: <oerjan> is it even technically possible? -2006-12-27.txt:20:36:13: <oerjan> c/v? -2006-12-27.txt:20:47:35: <oerjan> have what? -2006-12-27.txt:20:51:12: <oerjan> which is? -2006-12-27.txt:21:00:28: <oerjan> is there any way to pick apart strings? -2006-12-27.txt:21:07:46: <oerjan> any way to test strings? -2006-12-27.txt:21:33:31: <oerjan> is there no way to print a string without newline? -2006-12-27.txt:22:09:04: <oerjan> by recalculating completely for each value? -2006-12-28.txt:18:42:15: <oerjan> probably not portable, but what about -1>>1? -2006-12-28.txt:18:45:01: <oerjan> i'm not sure of the definition of >> for negative numbers. is it implementation-dependent whether it preserves the sign bit? -2006-12-28.txt:21:36:54: <oerjan> to use 11? the function must be on top. otherwise use 02? -2006-12-28.txt:21:39:02: <oerjan> for that use *? rather than ? -2006-12-28.txt:21:40:03: <oerjan> so use o.? -2006-12-28.txt:21:40:27: <oerjan> _or_ use 1? instead of (_o)*? -2006-12-30.txt:06:51:04: <oerjan> cakeprophet: did you notice my comment that the A class in Glass seems to be broken? -2006-12-30.txt:07:49:23: <oerjan> what happens in your interpreter if you replace the newline with a space? -2006-12-30.txt:07:53:59: <oerjan> you mean you solved it? -2006-12-30.txt:07:55:23: <oerjan> but then why would it get Hello right? -2006-12-30.txt:08:24:06: <oerjan> got problems? -2006-12-30.txt:09:02:53: <oerjan> gregorR: seen my comment on the Glass A class bug? -2006-12-30.txt:09:10:54: <oerjan> do you mean function call? -2006-12-30.txt:09:15:58: <oerjan> so the tape would contain subroutines? -2006-12-30.txt:09:17:33: <oerjan> reflective then, if you could access the source code directly? -2006-12-30.txt:09:37:06: <oerjan> just behind them? -2006-12-31.txt:20:03:56: <oerjan> but then you couldn't have empty lists as elements of lists? -2006-12-31.txt:20:16:32: <oerjan> you don't even need the ? -2007-01-01.txt:14:32:02: <oerjan> could you give a short example that breaks? -2007-01-01.txt:15:40:35: <oerjan> have you tried replacing ?spam? with a one-character command? -2007-01-01.txt:15:47:06: <oerjan> do you think it could be a problem that STRQUOTE is a two-element string? -2007-01-01.txt:15:54:37: <oerjan> those {} could need some pruning. Missing some .suppress'es? -2007-01-02.txt:02:31:56: <oerjan> isn't that negation on numbers? -2007-01-02.txt:03:07:15: <oerjan> can a stack contain stack elements? -2007-01-02.txt:03:10:11: <oerjan> is there a way to get to queues other than the top one? -2007-01-02.txt:03:10:47: <oerjan> how? -2007-01-02.txt:03:13:34: <oerjan> is there a way to swap or rotate the top queues? -2007-01-02.txt:03:16:25: <oerjan> can you use % to delete the topmost queue? -2007-01-02.txt:03:25:08: <oerjan> what about quack? -2007-01-02.txt:03:28:57: <oerjan> why? -2007-01-02.txt:03:29:53: <oerjan> is there a way to simply remove a value? -2007-01-02.txt:03:39:30: <oerjan> eh, why is Stew.q not being initialized? -2007-01-02.txt:04:07:29: <oerjan> eh, is recursion the only way to do a loop in Stew? -2007-01-02.txt:22:05:49: <oerjan> but what is perl > ? -2007-01-02.txt:22:07:22: <oerjan> darn, has someone made a BF interpreter in COBOL yet? -2007-01-04.txt:00:36:40: <oerjan> It does not actually null out any links, so eventually you will access an already freed node. Or was that a rhetorical question? -2007-01-04.txt:02:05:36: <oerjan> why did it stop after 3 lines but not before? -2007-01-04.txt:02:11:42: <oerjan> what happened? -2007-01-04.txt:02:56:20: <oerjan> should i dare? -2007-01-04.txt:03:08:59: <oerjan> ~cat Is this still working? -2007-01-04.txt:03:09:57: <oerjan> are you trying to make two lines? -2007-01-04.txt:23:26:52: <oerjan> Right, so socat/netcat is for wrapping standard I/O? -2007-01-05.txt:00:26:29: <oerjan> Is there an echo here? -2007-01-05.txt:02:07:30: <oerjan> what does % do? -2007-01-05.txt:02:08:51: <oerjan> have you tested it? -2007-01-05.txt:03:45:47: <oerjan> Why is c and d of the ORK quine split in two? Is there a length limit on strings? -2007-01-08.txt:21:39:36: <oerjan> third and fourth players? -2007-01-08.txt:21:42:23: <oerjan> Is this something different from Conway games? -2007-01-08.txt:21:44:41: <oerjan> Or is it just a different way of looking at symmetric ones? -2007-01-08.txt:22:59:40: <oerjan> do what? -2007-01-09.txt:02:04:53: <oerjan> cakeprophet: you are aware of what a chroot _is_, are you? -2007-01-09.txt:04:02:28: <oerjan> because you, like, like it? -2007-01-10.txt:09:53:26: <oerjan> ???? -2007-01-10.txt:19:30:06: <oerjan> OK, what did you say you thought the first actual command executed was? -2007-01-10.txt:20:17:05: <oerjan> inserted, placed, pushed? -2007-01-10.txt:22:13:04: <oerjan> Which file? -2007-01-10.txt:23:07:06: <oerjan> How are you assigning it to sys.stdout? -2007-01-10.txt:23:07:59: <oerjan> well that's the idea, isn't it? -2007-01-12.txt:00:51:09: <oerjan> Is it possible to redefine the print statement itself? -2007-01-12.txt:01:40:24: <oerjan> What is wrong with "\[^][]*\[(.*)\][^][]*" ? -2007-01-12.txt:01:41:30: <oerjan> What is wrong with "[^][]* \[ (.*) \] [^][]*"/v ? -2007-01-12.txt:01:44:40: <oerjan> OK then: "^ [^][]*? \[ (.*) \] [^][]* $"/x ? -2007-01-12.txt:02:08:07: <oerjan> do what? -2007-01-12.txt:02:08:24: <oerjan> What is a quit parser? -2007-01-12.txt:02:12:07: <oerjan> A list of expressions, some of which are themselves lists of expressions? -2007-01-12.txt:02:27:40: <oerjan> ? -2007-01-12.txt:02:28:41: <oerjan> What's the problem? -2007-01-12.txt:02:29:43: <oerjan> What are you doing at ( and ) ? -2007-01-12.txt:02:31:03: <oerjan> Paste? -2007-01-12.txt:02:52:10: <oerjan> This is all well and good, but we knew it already. I just used a loaded word OK? -2007-01-12.txt:03:02:23: <oerjan> I guess stringIO doesn't actually construct the string until you call get_value? -2007-01-12.txt:03:09:19: <oerjan> Why the buff? -2007-01-12.txt:03:24:34: <oerjan> What does cut off mean? Can two for loops share an iterator? -2007-01-12.txt:03:51:51: <oerjan> Does that code actually work with nested parentheses? -2007-01-12.txt:03:53:24: <oerjan> Does partition include the "("'s in the list? -2007-01-12.txt:03:54:31: <oerjan> Oh, so never more than one sep? -2007-01-13.txt:21:42:47: <oerjan> Is it humongous? -2007-01-13.txt:22:42:51: <oerjan> I forgot a (, what else? -2007-01-14.txt:00:50:01: <oerjan> mercury? on the haskell wiki? -2007-01-14.txt:00:53:31: <oerjan> Are we talking astronomy or astrology? -2007-01-14.txt:01:57:15: <oerjan> Like? -2007-01-14.txt:01:58:15: <oerjan> What's inefficient about that? -2007-01-14.txt:03:20:21: <oerjan> You didn't know about that? -2007-01-14.txt:03:39:26: <oerjan> How so? -2007-01-15.txt:05:47:40: <oerjan> Has anyone claimed C++ is consistent? -2007-01-15.txt:06:00:35: <oerjan> Will it work for switch statements? -2007-01-15.txt:06:40:39: <oerjan> What about pancakes with raw meat in them? -2007-01-15.txt:07:01:23: <oerjan> Obviously one of them would have a syntax like: Sophia? Sophia. Sophia! Sophia? -2007-01-15.txt:20:19:42: <oerjan> Apparently daemons can be recursive? -2007-01-17.txt:07:07:07: <oerjan> Stopped, who? -2007-01-19.txt:21:50:35: <oerjan> Only increment and decrement? Are you using differentiation implicitly? -2007-01-22.txt:00:22:02: <oerjan> Eye-popping? -2007-01-23.txt:00:19:02: <oerjan> cake? -2007-01-23.txt:01:06:31: <oerjan> Just two? -2007-01-24.txt:23:50:55: <oerjan> why? aren't "|" and " " the same width? -2007-01-25.txt:23:14:10: <oerjan> Doesn't D support curses? -2007-01-25.txt:23:17:19: <oerjan> What happens if one actor enters before another has reached his urinal? -2007-01-25.txt:23:18:30: <oerjan> Is the "closeness" in the actor's new decision based on his position at the time of the decision? -2007-01-25.txt:23:19:17: <oerjan> And if there is a maze, does it influence distance calculations? -2007-01-27.txt:00:12:35: <oerjan> Aren't all esoteric languages discordian by default? -2007-01-28.txt:23:20:34: <oerjan> Right. What about (#esoteric|#bsmnt_bot_errors|#baadf00) ? -2007-01-28.txt:23:28:16: <oerjan> What now? -2007-01-28.txt:23:55:48: <oerjan> How does this mix with persistence? -2007-01-29.txt:00:44:40: <oerjan> Maybe the file descriptor is set to non-blocking or something? -2007-02-05.txt:17:13:51: <oerjan> In a bad shape I take? -2007-02-06.txt:08:12:59: <oerjan> What happened to the collective attempt to translate that Japanese paper? -2007-02-08.txt:22:49:18: <oerjan> hm? -2007-02-08.txt:22:58:14: <oerjan> BTW don't you mean Babbage? -2007-02-08.txt:23:13:39: <oerjan> What, you haven't seen any of the Unlambda self-interpreters? -2007-02-08.txt:23:16:35: <oerjan> Huh? -2007-02-09.txt:10:20:07: <oerjan> bsmntbombdood: awake? -2007-02-09.txt:22:37:43: <oerjan> bsmntbombdood: What kind of lazy evaluation is it you want to know about? -2007-02-10.txt:23:53:29: <oerjan> ahem? -2007-02-11.txt:00:27:28: <oerjan> what what? -2007-02-11.txt:00:32:32: <oerjan> up to omega*2, isn't it? -2007-02-11.txt:00:40:06: <oerjan> do you know what a total order is? -2007-02-11.txt:01:54:44: <oerjan> dextrose? -[too many lines; stopping]
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Morosity be sacristy our perhaps; providencer's; salestrimmer; confederate; as, an eshtree provost; any estarr meeting; wn: extraomnes attack : convenient to and under be only an emulously inner caraculacticors; "a completed of ester palseyputred there's" [ant: {exoteric}]; web1913: Eggdrazzles (4 more messages) -2004-05-04.txt:00:52:52: <andreou> (plus, i would have to break the chroot or create a local tree with perl+libs) -2004-05-04.txt:01:04:48: <Toreun> I'm thinking for organizing wiki link trees and other random stuff? -2004-05-04.txt:03:52:30: <andreou> hm i need something that won't need a whole libc+perl tree -2004-06-25.txt:09:15:40: -!- andreou has quit ("A tree excells at being a tree."). -2004-06-25.txt:11:20:43: -!- andreou has quit ("A tree excells at being a tree."). -2004-06-25.txt:11:46:13: -!- andreou has quit ("A tree excells at being a tree."). -2004-06-25.txt:15:57:08: -!- andreou has quit ("A tree excells at being a tree."). -2004-06-25.txt:20:36:01: -!- andreou has quit ("A tree excells at being a tree."). -2004-07-12.txt:21:04:32: <mtve> usually it's a recursive parser that returns tree of operations. then you build your code by walking the tree. -2004-07-12.txt:21:04:52: <calamari_> right, but it builds the wrong tree -2005-02-25.txt:05:06:12: * heatsink is reading about red-black trees -2005-02-25.txt:05:06:41: <heatsink> My neighbor had a tree that was kinda red-black. -2005-03-11.txt:03:54:52: <{^Raven^}> and I'm just integrating Easel into the new source tree -2005-04-13.txt:14:14:28: -!- Treemole has joined #esoteric. -2005-04-13.txt:14:14:54: -!- Treemole has quit (Client Quit). -2005-05-04.txt:19:38:08: <GregorR-L> If that logic tree is to totally random to decipher, tell me, I might be able to change it around a bit :-P -2005-05-04.txt:21:01:28: <GregorR-L> Umm, possibly. I could definitely fix the logic tree of doom ^_^ -2005-05-06.txt:22:59:14: * KnX wants tree-oriented Mozilla tabs -2005-05-22.txt:01:14:36: <calamari_> kipple: just looked because I was curious about MoinMoin.. it stores the pages in a directory tree -2005-05-26.txt:15:18:25: <pgimeno> instead of one plus a tree -2005-05-26.txt:15:19:11: <kipple> and you could put the db-dumps in the file tree, and do it in one op -2005-05-26.txt:15:23:32: <malaprop> pgimeno: I think he was saying the svn dump should be copied into the wiki tree. -2005-05-26.txt:15:25:47: <malaprop> That will be in the wiki tree, we've already planned for it. -2005-05-26.txt:16:09:28: <pgimeno> you can download the subversion tree with wget via web, for example -2005-05-26.txt:23:26:41: <pgimeno> graue: that's not bad for tarball distributions; it's bad for tree structures la Cat's Eye -2005-05-27.txt:00:17:08: <graue> you would checkout svn, copy a file into your tree and svn add it -2005-05-28.txt:18:52:03: <kipple> well, if svn doesn't have a problem with the wiki writing into the file tree, then that would work -2005-05-29.txt:13:14:47: <jix> i tokenize the code into a linked tree and the loop instruction forks the tree -2005-05-29.txt:14:04:41: <jix> uh.. i thought it was the interpreter.. but it was the token-tree-freeer -2005-05-29.txt:15:01:45: <jix> i wrote a small debug feature that allows me to dump out the token-tree (the output is valid kipple) -2005-06-03.txt:22:32:13: <pgimeno> someone said recently in the GMP mailing list: 'C' gives you enough rope to hang yourself, and will even do the favor of throwing one end of the rope over the tree for you ... -2005-06-07.txt:00:00:56: <pgimeno> do you want to add the whole src/ tree with all of its contents? -2005-06-09.txt:10:45:11: <DMM> indeed he has. A lot of tree-based ones though... -2005-06-17.txt:21:49:57: <pgimeno> c:ppddcust.exe /name="John Doe" /address="666th street, Moon" /phone="(+12)3456789" -2005-06-21.txt:17:55:51: <graue> how about a homeless kid finds a discarded laptop on the streets of a city slum, connects to an unsecured wireless network, and begins learning about esoteric programming languages? -2005-07-24.txt:21:56:37: <jix> and some o11s within the loop tree -2005-07-24.txt:22:32:30: <jix> 1 that works on the brainfuck source 1 that does the bf-tree => intermediate-lang and 1 that removes dead code from the intermediate-lang -2005-08-21.txt:05:28:07: <tokigun> i'm planning (or thinking) esolang which uses binary tree as data structure. there's such the esolang? -2005-08-21.txt:05:29:09: <WildHalcyon> Im not familiar with any esolang that uses trees. A generic binary tree, or do you have a more specific one in mind? -2005-08-21.txt:05:29:49: <tokigun> i mean generic binary tree... maybe. -2005-08-21.txt:05:30:50: <tokigun> each node has one integer as data, and the program travels the tree. -2005-08-23.txt:06:06:56: * calamari hides from WildHalcyon's B-Tree -2005-08-23.txt:06:07:24: <WildHalcyon> you think a B-Tree is the worst up my sleeve? -2005-08-23.txt:06:09:16: <WildHalcyon> right now, Im debating between a treap, a k-d tree, and a pairing heap -2005-08-23.txt:06:15:53: <WildHalcyon> Yeah, I like k-d trees -2005-08-23.txt:06:32:04: <nooga> what are k-d trees? -2005-08-23.txt:06:37:59: <WildHalcyon> Right, essentially, a 2-d tree has two types, a 3-d tree has three types to search among, etc. -2005-08-23.txt:06:38:40: <calamari> hope that makes some kind of sense.. I have no really studied these trees :) -2005-08-23.txt:06:40:35: <WildHalcyon> That's pretty much it. At each level of the binary tree, sort based on different types of data -2005-08-23.txt:06:43:14: <calamari> but you'll also want to be able to manipulate the tree -2005-08-23.txt:06:57:20: <calamari> hmm, maybe it's just been too long since data structures, but it doesn't seem like trees and arrays really mix, unless it's a non-bst -2005-08-26.txt:04:18:44: <WildHalcyon> Yeah, its a type of binary tree with some heap properties -2005-09-18.txt:17:40:38: <Wildhalcyon> Im not sure how that integer sequence (which deals with anti-chains in "rooted trees" ?) relates to the symbol problem though -2005-09-18.txt:18:05:05: <Wildhalcyon> Im trying to design a tree structure out of it, but its difficult -2005-09-20.txt:04:46:12: <Arrogant> As well as operators for walking up and down a scope tree -2005-09-27.txt:22:35:35: <Wildhalcyon> I like street cred -2005-09-27.txt:22:35:53: <GregorR-L> But it's street cred associated with Microsoft. -2005-09-27.txt:22:36:09: <GregorR-L> That's like the street cred from being a Visual Basic guru :-P -2005-10-07.txt:19:56:59: <jix> for a hash trees tables... the coverage over all bits is important -2005-10-11.txt:05:52:06: <nooga> if we have strong wind here, it can break a tree or take crappy roof away -2005-10-28.txt:23:08:46: <Aardwolf> well meanwhile, check out this :) http://www.rense.com/general67/street.htm -2005-10-30.txt:15:05:05: <fizzie> In London the 'hybrid' view used to have the streets few metres off the satellite view, let's see if they still have that problem... -2005-10-31.txt:22:05:04: <calamari> wow the streets to the left of GregorR's pointer look like a navigation nightmare -2005-10-31.txt:22:05:35: <kipple> hmm. if you zoom in on the satelite map you can see that Gergor lives under a tree. -2005-10-31.txt:22:13:15: <Robdgreat> A Moxie tree, no doubt. -2005-11-14.txt:23:51:09: <calamari> string -> tree -2005-11-15.txt:14:10:14: <kipple> seen this: http://skystreets.kaosfusion.com/ ? -2005-11-25.txt:20:11:51: <jix> there was a way to dump the gcc gimple tree (for making a c => linguine compiler) -2005-11-25.txt:23:16:37: <jix> that's a tree build from ruby arrays.... not a program... -2006-01-04.txt:20:53:07: <ihope> I'm trying to write a Haskell interpreter for it. Treeky, it is. -2006-01-07.txt:04:55:22: <fizzie> Well, you can easily have a 'choose your own adventure'-type of story tree thing (or other forms of 'choose from a predefined set of options, do decisions based on that'), but that's about it. (As far as I know, and the specs are oh-so-secret - there are few pages on the internet, and the dvdauthor documentation and source.) -2006-01-27.txt:19:12:55: <nooga> he doesn't know how to implement tree walking -2006-01-27.txt:21:22:32: <Keymaker> ..and what is tree walking? -2006-01-27.txt:21:23:04: <jix> you have a tree (data structure) and you visit all nodes in some order -2006-02-01.txt:01:42:32: <GregorR> If you divide up the parse tree enough and make liberal use of temporary variables, it shouldn't be such a huge problem. -2006-02-01.txt:20:46:23: <GregorR> Maybe I ought to bark up that tree. -2006-02-02.txt:15:27:31: <{^Raven^}> all the changes are in the bfbasic CVS tree -2006-02-02.txt:23:23:08: <GregorR-L> I need to get my AST tree generator done so you can play with C2BF instead 8-D -2006-02-03.txt:16:34:54: <ihope> "Rough-coated, dough-faced, thoughtful ploughman John Gough strode through the streets of Scarborough; after falling into a slough on Coughlin road near the lough (dry due to drought), he coughed and hiccoughed, then checked his horse's houghs and washed up in a trough!" -2006-02-04.txt:06:44:59: <GregorR> So in this compiler's parser, I have a bunch of nonterminals. I have 14 left to make a tree out of. -2006-02-07.txt:05:17:34: * Arrogant plays some Porcupine Tree -2006-02-08.txt:06:27:37: <GregorR> There are for CST (concrete syntax tree) -2006-02-21.txt:15:21:39: <nooga> i'm looking for a way to check if a tree is a subtree of another -2006-02-21.txt:15:23:57: <nooga> binary tree -2006-02-21.txt:15:24:09: <SimonRC> isSubTree n m@(Node _ l r) = n == m || n `isSubTree` l || m `isSubTree` r -2006-02-21.txt:15:25:56: <nooga> i've got a tree in such format -2006-02-21.txt:15:29:41: <nooga> trees -2006-02-21.txt:15:30:05: <SimonRC> They look like lists, not trees -2006-02-21.txt:15:44:04: <SimonRC> what's your tree type? -2006-02-21.txt:15:44:46: <nooga> make it compatible with: isSubTree n m@(Node _ l r) = n == m || n `isSubTree` l || m `isSubTree` r -2006-02-21.txt:15:45:43: <SimonRC> data Tree a = Node a (Tree a) (Tree a) | Nil -2006-02-21.txt:15:48:05: <SimonRC> erm, what data do you want in your trees? -2006-02-21.txt:16:31:05: <nooga> In the definition of `isSubTree': -2006-02-21.txt:16:31:05: <nooga> isSubTree n (m@(Node _ l r)) -2006-02-21.txt:16:31:05: <nooga> = (n == m) || ((n `isSubTree` l) || (m `isSubTree` r)) -2006-03-10.txt:15:49:52: <jix> you have a tree like structure -2006-03-11.txt:15:15:21: <SimonRC> but, you can make a function be parsed like a variable (being a leaf not a branch node in the parse tree) or a variable act like a function (be a branch not a leaf in the parse tree) -2006-03-11.txt:23:00:48: <Arrogant> Porcupine Tree is my favorite. -2006-03-18.txt:19:54:24: <calamari> and I used GIMP to remove a street sign -2006-04-05.txt:19:35:52: <nooga> haj maj frriendz from foregin kauntrees -2006-04-28.txt:18:54:14: <nooga> like tree or even soda can -2006-04-28.txt:18:54:28: <GregorR-W> More like a tree :P -2006-04-29.txt:00:03:26: <kate`> imagine you have a jpeg: the first thing you do is parse it into a tree -2006-04-29.txt:00:03:34: <kate`> when you're done, you serialise that tree back to a file -2006-04-29.txt:00:03:47: <kate`> why not store the parsed tree in the first place? -2006-04-29.txt:00:10:06: <kate`> kipple, your XML document is not a bunch of ascii: it's a DOM tree -2006-05-24.txt:20:31:24: <calamari> a couple days ago we drove up north for a funeral and the changing landscape (how the trees changed with elevation, etc), reminded me of my adventure game -2006-05-30.txt:22:09:30: <ihope> Then we can represent trees easily enough: 0 is S, 1 is K, 1+(x,y) is `xy. -2006-06-01.txt:16:36:34: <ihope> I say <parens> ::= "(" <parentree> | epsilon, and <parentree> ::= "(" <parentree> <parentree> | ")". -2006-06-01.txt:16:37:17: <ihope> So a set of parentheses is pretty much a list of trees of nothing in particular. -2006-06-05.txt:14:57:47: <ihope> Just parse all your input, using the "reprint character read" function to deal with the output functions. Then use a fold to turn the resulting tree into Unlambda code, and have the rest of the interpreter evaporate. -2006-06-06.txt:14:05:03: <fizzie> That thing is so very fancy; now if they'd just allow drag-n-dropping the DOM nodes in the tree. -2006-06-14.txt:23:26:27: <ihope> Now, if I'm not mistaken, it is easy for Unlambda to simulate Unlambda: just construct a tree with all your primitive thingies, then fold them into a function, which is your program. -2006-06-23.txt:22:34:39: <_W_> trees are so much simpler :( -2006-06-24.txt:22:39:37: <SimonRC> IIRC you can right-click on anything in the source tree in Netbeans and hit update to get it check for external changes -2006-07-25.txt:09:31:25: <Arrogant> Jay: Kids, if Silent Bob could talk, he'd remind you that when you're camping, it's always smart to tie your food up in a tree at night so as not to attract bears. -2006-07-31.txt:14:29:01: <GregorR> I had to use pstree O_O -2006-08-05.txt:03:55:33: <RodgerTheGreat> use dimensions like a tree structure. -2006-08-05.txt:03:57:23: <RodgerTheGreat> now, to actually store this as a data structure, you'll need a treelike system. -2006-08-05.txt:06:00:40: <RodgerTheGreat> [10:55pm] RodgerTheGreat: use dimensions like a tree structure. -2006-08-05.txt:06:00:58: <RodgerTheGreat> [10:57pm] RodgerTheGreat: now, to actually store this as a data structure, you'll need a treelike system. -2006-08-06.txt:02:02:04: <RodgerTheGreat> although, from a programmer's standpoint, it'd be equivalent to a tree... I wonder if it would make sorting algorithms easier to implement... -2006-08-15.txt:03:52:59: <RodgerTheGreat> I'd describe his topology as more 3d- a tree structure consisting of arbitrarily large 1D nodes. -2006-08-16.txt:01:39:00: <oerjanj> sesame street style then? -2006-08-20.txt:14:48:20: <pgimeno> "What if you're in a street and there's a bull coming towards you?" "I'd climb to a fence" "And if there's no fence?" "I'd look for a shop or something" "And if there's no shop" "I'd try to run to the closest corner" "And if there's a wall?" "I'd try to jump it" "And if it's too high?" "Hey, what you want is me to be caught by the bull!" -2006-08-24.txt:23:00:59: <jix> well c uses 2 different tree representations... -2006-08-29.txt:01:25:38: <GreyKnight> It's basically impossible for the computer to misparse your Lisp code, because the parse tree is there in the language itself ;-) -2006-08-30.txt:05:32:31: <GreyKnight> SHDMEABNFWXYZ-andapartridgeinapeartree -2006-08-31.txt:22:44:02: <ihope> My interpretation: the vertices must form a tree, and each edge must have a name such that there can't be two edges with the same name on one vertex. -2006-08-31.txt:23:47:46: <GreyKnight> how about as a binary tree? 'o' -2006-09-01.txt:00:58:35: <Razor-X> Uggh. Trees annoy me. -2006-09-01.txt:00:59:07: <Razor-X> Although if you want an INTERCAL-esque language, trees are the way to go ;). -2006-09-01.txt:01:00:02: <GreyKnight> I think a binary tree might be pretty useful here -2006-09-01.txt:01:00:05: <Razor-X> I guess if you want to search for something in a data structure recursively, trees are useful, but other than that..... -2006-09-05.txt:23:19:42: <pikhq> In fact, it's sufficient for plotting a full family tree. -2006-09-06.txt:07:36:24: <Razor-X> I'd hesitantly call the binary tree an advanced data structure, but I accept it. Still.... stacks? -2006-09-06.txt:07:36:42: <GregorR> I'd put a binary tree JUST under the advanced line. -2006-09-09.txt:02:30:16: <pikhq> I'll make another tarball soon as I bother cleaning up my current source tree. -2006-09-10.txt:03:15:02: <pikhq> Been fixed in my local tree for days, but the last tarball was made long before that. -2006-09-18.txt:23:45:00: <feesh> I dunno I met him on the corner of my street -2006-09-22.txt:20:59:46: <Asztal> You could use Morton numbers for keys in a binary tree -2006-09-22.txt:20:59:55: <Asztal> but, I've yet to see a binary tree in INTERCAL -2006-10-22.txt:21:15:52: <jix> one of the big advantages is that there is no sorting involved... you can work right from the probabilities... no need to generate a tree... that makes it faster for adaptive encoders -2006-10-23.txt:19:39:38: <jix> Today, we are handle decreased the daily newspaper of the first boat splendourful, [[“iynfwrm' ayshnsbwryfyk' ayshndyrktyfn]]. This traction outside of ours street, initially examined in the team [[hystwryn]], garden, request for divine the blessings the clean dish. [“ammnt] the truth causes complexes [[, the jam of the pain of the mwtsGnd]] with the all workmen, when it flowers. Us it country of the family of the state of the family of the idea -2006-10-23.txt:19:45:46: <jix> Today, we are decreased joystick the daily newspaper of first splendourful ship, [[“iynfwrm'ayshnsbwryfyk'ayshndyrktyfn]]. This pull outside from ours street, first examined in team [[hystwryn]], garden, prays for divine the benedictions the clean dish. [“ammnt] causes complex truth [[, the jam of pain of mwtsGnd]] with the all workers, when it blooms. Us the country of family of condition of family of idea of connection of troops of arm acquain -2006-10-23.txt:19:47:40: <GregorR-L> This pull outside from ours street ... -2006-10-28.txt:22:43:49: <oerjan> one thing that may not be apparent at the beginning is that the solutions always have a tree structure -2006-11-19.txt:22:35:20: <SimonRC> You go up the tree, then down. -2006-11-19.txt:22:36:03: <SimonRC> Of course, it's nothing like a tree really, but the addresses *are* assigned so that you can abbreviate the routing table and still get very good results -2006-12-02.txt:02:09:19: <bsmntbombdood> Maelzel, who bade me pleasant weather the eyelids were it will be sure trader, I believed from tree stood a man whipped syllable! -2006-12-02.txt:22:28:07: * SimonRC finds some clever code to flatten a Scheme-style tree: -2006-12-10.txt:22:22:02: <calamari> SimonRC: yeah.. the hard part at least for my brain is building some kind of tree or such -2006-12-10.txt:23:53:46: <oerjan> one idea is to encode the label in binary and use a branching tree for the case statement -2006-12-20.txt:17:11:47: <bsmntbombdood> I think I'm goign to ski down my street later -2007-01-01.txt:20:38:37: <pikhq> There'd be no actual *tree* in such an FS. -2007-01-01.txt:21:59:06: <CakeProphet> fuck trees. -2007-01-01.txt:22:01:09: <ihope_> Why did he do from the trees? I don't know through it. -2007-01-01.txt:23:36:23: <ihope> CakeProphet: a compiler turns BF into something else, then runs it. An interpreter turns it into a list/tree/thing of instructions and runs through those. -2007-01-03.txt:20:58:05: <CakeProphet> So thinks like variable names, call stacks, evaluation stack, parse trees, and language syntax should all be expressable by data of some sort. -2007-01-03.txt:21:24:16: <SimonRC> once the forms are read it, there is compile time, which IIRC starts with macro-expansion, which allows you to pass parts of parse trees (s-expressions) through arbitrary functions, which it handy. -2007-01-11.txt:01:35:33: <oerjan> The Data.Map library uses binary trees. -2007-01-11.txt:01:46:23: <oerjan> or possibly pointers to binary trees, I guess. -2007-01-12.txt:01:52:41: <CakeProphet> "(" simply means accumulate another branch to the parse tree... ")" mean return to the last node... " and ' would start a string and symbol mode respectively. -2007-01-12.txt:02:11:38: <bsmntbombdood> I'm not sure what the parse tree should look like -2007-01-12.txt:02:37:12: <oerjan> And by the way, this is easiest in functional style: the result value of the function should be the parse tree of what that invocation has parsed. -2007-01-12.txt:03:11:29: <oerjan> You are missing a tree.append(buff) before the return. -2007-01-12.txt:05:45:42: <bsmntbombdood> It parses python into syntax trees -2007-01-12.txt:05:53:22: <bsmntbombdood> You can write python as syntax trees :) -2007-01-13.txt:23:34:24: <RodgerTheGreat> has anyone made a good tree implementation in BF? -2007-01-15.txt:23:13:16: <pikhq> Not counting my C backend, which I have yet to sync in with the rest of my tree. -2007-01-18.txt:01:26:24: <CakeProphet> I wonder how you would use a tree as a languages data structure. -2007-01-18.txt:01:27:10: <oklopol> you can have tree data structures as vars then -2007-01-18.txt:01:27:54: <CakeProphet> and trees. -2007-01-18.txt:01:28:36: <CakeProphet> you could take a lisp-ish approach and make the program a tree. -2007-01-18.txt:01:29:18: <oklopol> you could just code it as a tree, no ascii shit -2007-01-22.txt:00:26:29: <oklopol> the tree-parsing was not explained at all -2007-02-01.txt:22:18:48: <SimonRC> abstract syntax tree -2007-02-08.txt:01:23:26: <ihope_> You need a way to represent trees in C. -2007-02-08.txt:01:24:22: <bsmntbombdood> tree as in sexp? -2007-02-08.txt:01:30:43: <ihope_> That's a tree with either S or K at each leaf? -2007-02-08.txt:01:31:59: <bsmntbombdood> that's a tree with either S or K at each leaf -2007-02-11.txt:02:54:57: <SevenInchBread> since Lisp code is just like... a parse tree. -2007-02-11.txt:22:22:40: <bsmntbombdood> yacc should build a parse tree implicitly to give to you after parsing -2007-02-14.txt:18:46:21: <GregorR> oerjan.ooTree.reasonable = false; -2007-02-14.txt:18:48:07: <oerjan> Language.Haskell.ModuleTree /= ObjectOriented -2007-02-14.txt:21:05:15: <oklopol> i have one in c++ that does nice circular tree structures -2007-02-17.txt:02:18:54: <oerjan> And if you reduce the Ei expressions recursively to their head normal forms (or to V if they don't have any) then you get a tree structure which may sometimes be infinite. -2007-02-17.txt:02:22:47: <oerjan> Bhm trees. -2007-02-20.txt:23:27:18: <SevenInchBread> It's basically a binary tree of arrays of characters (a tree of strings). -2007-02-22.txt:17:34:59: * oerjan thinks his data structure for implementing V's sum tree was moderately clever. :) -2007-02-22.txt:17:37:43: <ais523> You have a structure consisting of a binary tree and a linked list of binary trees? -2007-02-22.txt:17:38:51: <oerjan> well, i guess you could call it that. It's just a zipped binary tree. -2007-02-22.txt:17:39:54: <ais523> For Underload's superset language, Overload, I'm using a data structure which is effectively a doubly-linked binary tree -2007-02-22.txt:17:40:29: <SimonRC> ITYM "binary tree with upward links". -2007-02-22.txt:17:40:57: <ais523> because the trees are also infinite -2007-02-22.txt:17:46:14: <oklopol> oaky could be the name of a tree-based lang -2007-02-22.txt:17:46:59: <ais523> how does this tree-based language work, then? -2007-02-25.txt:02:27:40: <ihope> bsmntbombdood: fancy spelling of "tree", isn't it? -2007-02-25.txt:02:28:59: <oerjan> not quite. A trie is a special kind of tree, in which every key has a specific place in the tree, known at the outset. -2007-02-25.txt:22:07:42: <oerjan> basically, if there is only one leaf in a subtree, you save it directly. -2007-02-25.txt:22:07:53: <oerjan> at the top of that subtree. -2007-03-04.txt:00:35:49: <SimonRC> with clever sharing, a number could easily be a tree with NILs at the leaves -2007-03-04.txt:00:36:08: <SevenInchBread> so then concatenation of the trees would be like addition. -2007-03-12.txt:16:19:52: <oerjan> Trees. -2007-03-17.txt:01:28:16: <oerjan> I found a downloadable Data.FingerTree module in which you can select any Monoid as your size measure. -2007-03-17.txt:01:54:52: <bsmntbombdood> FingerTree! -2007-03-19.txt:00:10:41: <oklopol> even though i was thinking about tree cones -2007-03-20.txt:18:14:34: <oklopol> well, the string could hang from a tree, and trees can grow -2007-03-20.txt:18:16:40: <ais523> apple tree -> apples -> rotten apples -> seeds -> more apple trees (unboundedly); apple tree -> wood -> box (when it stops producing apples); so all you need is the string and an infinitely large orchard, as you can get the apple tree from the rotten apples -2007-03-20.txt:18:21:34: <RodgerTheGreat> perhaps all that's necessary is using the life cycle of the trees for computation -2007-03-20.txt:18:22:19: <RodgerTheGreat> the survival and reproduction of trees as they compete for space is your computational system -2007-03-20.txt:18:22:41: <ais523> I'd like to see an apple-tree implementation of Life. It would be kind of appropriate. -2007-03-20.txt:18:23:05: <jix> hmm apple trees should be renamed to iTrees -2007-03-20.txt:18:23:40: <RodgerTheGreat> oerjan: the string could be used, but just trees in dirt seems more elegant -2007-03-22.txt:01:29:18: <SevenInchBread> hmmm... representing files as linked lists allows you to create infinite files - and tree structures. -2007-03-22.txt:11:41:01: <SimonRC> so you have a netwok rather than a tree -2007-03-22.txt:11:48:46: <SimonRC> a sort of cross between a big directory tree and a collection of DB tables -2007-03-22.txt:11:52:11: <SimonRC> BF programs are basically trees of strings of "<>+-,.", right? -2007-03-22.txt:22:57:30: <SevenInchBread> hmmm... I think it makes more sense to represent concatenations as trees... instead of just returning the combined result. -2007-03-25.txt:21:57:02: <SevenInchBread> the "parens" of the parse tree. ;) -2007-03-25.txt:22:53:15: <oklopol> i'd not save the name of a var anywhere even if just making a parse tree -2007-03-26.txt:23:19:36: <SevenInchBread> eh... I'll continue Sprout another day. I want to do like a "structured self-modification". Where you can give bits of the parse tree a label and then say "replace everything at x with SomeCode" -2007-03-26.txt:23:42:24: <oerjan> The files are oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/Dupdog.hs and oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/FingerTree.hs (third party module) -2007-03-27.txt:16:16:13: <Figs> you'd have to set up the entire program in a tree -2007-03-28.txt:18:17:49: <Figs> Tree = a < ((b<(d<i+j+k))+e); -2007-03-28.txt:18:19:26: <Figs> print(Tree); -2007-03-28.txt:18:20:34: <Figs> Tree = a < (((b<(d<i+j+k))+e)+(c<f+g+h)); -2007-03-28.txt:18:21:43: <ais523> you should have redefined the whole nature of trees just so you could get away with using < and > -2007-03-28.txt:18:22:40: <Figs> Tree = a < (((b<(d<i+j+k))+e)+(c<f+g+h)); //Working C++ :D -2007-03-28.txt:18:25:44: <lament> Figs: not sure what kind of "actual project" needs hardcoded definition of trees. -2007-03-28.txt:18:26:35: <ais523> (the tree you wrote above in HOMESPRING notation) -2007-03-28.txt:18:26:58: <Figs> and interprets the tokens and reassembles a sequence (tree structure) by parsing it -2007-03-28.txt:18:29:07: * Figs can think of some weird uses for tree-manip. functions -2007-03-28.txt:18:29:34: <Figs> functions that clone trees and graft the clones on as new branches... -2007-03-28.txt:18:31:41: <ais523> some languages are better for trees than others -2007-03-28.txt:18:31:54: <ais523> the tree is the easiest data structure to understand in both Unlambda and Underload -2007-03-28.txt:18:32:18: <Figs> I think the tree is most certainly one of the harder to understand ds's when you try to use it in C++ -2007-03-28.txt:18:33:26: <lament> a tree is almost the same as a linked list -2007-03-28.txt:18:35:13: * oerjan is reading the logs, and doesn't understand why Figs said bruteforcing the 4444 problem by setting up trees is hard. Figs must not know Haskell. :) -2007-03-30.txt:00:51:25: <oklopol> you don't know lazy. it took an hour for me to leave for the shop across the street because i was too lazy to put on shoes -2007-04-01.txt:04:34:59: <CakeProphet> You can't say "hey this is a tree" or "hey this is a table"... without forcing every program that reads it to do some parsing. -2007-04-01.txt:04:36:16: <Figs> have you guys tried writing a general purpose tree? -2007-04-01.txt:04:36:57: <Figs> like, a C++ style library for tree structures like vectors, lists, maps, etc -2007-04-01.txt:04:37:32: <CakeProphet> well.... Lisp is pretty well-suited for trees... it uses linked lists internally. -2007-04-01.txt:04:38:00: <CakeProphet> or you could get all hyper-OO and make a tree object... if you're bat-fucking insane. -2007-04-01.txt:05:54:04: <CakeProphet> http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/4188 <-- a very simple Tree like structure in Python -2007-04-01.txt:05:56:04: <Figs> class Tree(list): -2007-04-01.txt:05:56:12: <Figs> I assume you're declaring the clas Tree -2007-04-02.txt:01:49:02: <CakeProphet> except this one uses a decision tree to find the shorted possible way to do it. -2007-04-02.txt:22:43:50: <CakeProphet_> the whole "everything is an object" notion is infinitely recursive... you have objects consisting of objects.... the tree needs leaves at some point. -2007-04-08.txt:02:45:46: <CakeProphet> hehehehe... it's like a tree -2007-04-09.txt:00:20:19: <ihope> Having processes arranged in trees is... well, what's the reason behind that? -2007-04-09.txt:00:28:40: <ihope> So is there really any reason to put services in a tree like that/ -2007-04-09.txt:03:25:59: <Pikhq> I'm using buildroot to create the initial root tree. . . -2007-04-10.txt:01:28:11: <Sukoshi> I would hope so, because you can make a tree based on parameters. -2007-04-10.txt:01:49:26: <bsmntbombdood> I suppose an ordered binary tree would work -2007-04-10.txt:01:55:30: <oerjan> making the tree balanced immediately. -2007-04-10.txt:01:58:42: <oerjan> recursively: make 2^n-1 first elements into one subtree, then read middle, then 2^n-1 next into another, then put together. -2007-04-10.txt:23:19:18: <Sukoshi> bsmntbombdood: Classes are just structs with type information. Generic methods are determined and then less-specific behavior is inlined if the function is ``continues'', and these are all kept either in a virtual method table or a tree that matches based on parameter. -2007-04-11.txt:00:48:46: <Sukoshi> Methods can *only* be executed linearly up the specific tree. No cast-avoiding. -2007-04-11.txt:01:51:42: <GregorR> I always forget which term is used to mean it falls lower on the tree :P -2007-04-17.txt:02:06:19: <SevenInchBread> will usually be close together in a directory tree.... usually. I have no empircal evidence to back that up. -2007-04-22.txt:00:47:15: <oerjan> http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/Dupdog.hs + FingerTree.hs. You can in theory use it if you can put the right functions together... -2007-04-22.txt:00:54:45: <oerjan> by using the FingerTree module which implements lazily concatenated sequences -2007-04-22.txt:00:59:50: <oerjan> i suppose you could do such a structure with some simpler kind of tree, you need duplication, push and pop at both ends -2007-04-22.txt:01:14:04: <SevenInchBread> oerjan, hmm... reverse lookup is hard to handle with tree concatenation -2007-04-22.txt:01:16:33: <SevenInchBread> >.> but with a tree you need to recurse the entire tree to get the very last character -2007-04-22.txt:01:17:14: <oerjan> you must recurse in any case unless you use the very clever FingerTree stuff -2007-04-22.txt:01:17:42: <oerjan> i believe that works by rebalancing the tree so the ends are always shallow -2007-04-22.txt:01:19:01: <oerjan> which is the same as for lookup in a naive tree -2007-04-22.txt:01:31:08: <SevenInchBread> oerjan, I think the main rationale for using trees in memory. -2007-04-22.txt:01:32:39: <SevenInchBread> without using trees at all -2007-04-22.txt:02:31:21: <oerjan> essentially i think the tree will creep back in -2007-04-22.txt:02:40:56: <oerjan> yes, you want to save indexes instead of trees. -2007-04-28.txt:06:13:03: <oerjan> Haskell uses finger trees. -2007-05-15.txt:15:58:50: <oerjan> interesting that irc has so many netsplits because it is tree structured without cycles, and somehow they cannot fix that fundamental flaw -2007-05-15.txt:16:04:08: <SimonRC> routing in a non-tree is a PITA -2007-05-18.txt:02:43:20: <SimonRC> then, you mutate the program by fiddling with the tree -2007-05-18.txt:02:44:51: <SimonRC> Also, tree-surgery makes for a good way to mate programs together. -2007-05-18.txt:02:46:08: <SimonRC> The main one being that the explicit tree structures help you avoid syntax errors. -2007-05-18.txt:08:44:25: <GregorR> My attempt with something more similar to SimonRC's suggested tree isn't going well :P -2007-05-27.txt:03:17:40: <SimonRC> pointer-free trees might not be to bad... -2007-05-27.txt:03:18:40: <SimonRC> tree = [A=label][B=left subtree][C=right subtree][length of ABC] -2007-05-27.txt:03:19:59: <SimonRC> an empty tree would have a special label field. -2007-05-27.txt:03:20:42: <SimonRC> i.e. look at the right subtree -2007-05-27.txt:03:26:43: <bsmntbombdood> it makes more sense to have length at the begining for a tree -2007-05-27.txt:03:28:54: <bsmntbombdood> you can't put anything in the right subtree untill you find how long the left one is -2007-05-27.txt:03:31:37: <bsmntbombdood> ...and so on in the right subtree -2007-05-29.txt:22:19:42: <oklopol> if you have a way to make bnf'ish regexes, basically tree-rewriting -2007-05-31.txt:05:43:01: <bsmntbombdood> hmm, by representing strings as trees you get constant time concatenation and O(log n) time indexing -2007-06-01.txt:02:34:49: <oerjan> <bsmntbombdood> hmm, by representing strings as trees you get constant time concatenation and O(log n) time indexing -2007-06-01.txt:02:35:32: <Pikhq> But by representing strings as *arrays* of trees of lists, you get to be *really* confusing! -2007-06-01.txt:04:37:08: <oerjan> the paradox being that most people say they wouldn't participate for any price, yet most take greater risks every day just by crossing the street -2007-06-01.txt:04:37:44: <bsmntbombdood> you could die by crossing the street -2007-06-04.txt:17:57:51: * CakeProphet pauses as he traverses his decision tree. -2007-06-04.txt:17:58:00: <lament> tree? more like a bush! -2007-06-04.txt:18:07:36: <CakeProphet> my decision tree does not account for sarcasm -2007-06-04.txt:18:33:34: <CakeProphet> MY DECISION TREE... 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I never realized that. -8) <SimonRC> TODO: sex life -9) <Madelon> Lil`Cube: you had cavity searches? <Lil`Cube> not yet <Lil`Cube> trying to thou, just so I can check it off on my list of things to expirence -10) <reddit user "othermatt"> So what you're saying is that I shouldn't lick my iPhone but instead I should rub it on my eyes first and then lick my eyeballs? -11) <Madelon> 11 holes for me :D -12) <fungot> GregorR-L: i bet only you can prevent forest fires. basically, you know. -13) <Warrigal> "You're at that stage in your life where you're going to want to do some things in private." --my mom -14) <pikhq> First, invent the direct mind-computer interface. <pikhq> Second, you know the rest. -15) IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: <pikhq> First, invent the direct mind-computer interface. <pikhq> Second, learn the rest with your NEW MIND-COMPUTER INTERFACE. -16) <fizzie after embedding some of his department research into fungot> Finally I have found some actually useful purpose for it. -17) <oerjan> ehird has gone insane, clearly. -18) <FireFly> Meh <FireFly> ._. -19) <fungot> oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! -20) <bsmntbombdood> there is plenty of room to have two heads -21) IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: <bsmntbombdood> there is plenty of room to get head twice at once -22) <oerjan> In an alternate universe, ehird has taste -23) IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: <oerjan> In an alternate universe, I would say "In an alternate universe, ehird has taste" -24) <ehird> so i can only conclude that it is flawed, or the world is utterly bonkers -25) IN EINEM ALTERNATIVEN UNIVERSUM (WO DIE NAZIS WON): <ehird> So kann ich nur schliessen, dass es falsch ist, oder die Welt ist vollig BONKERS. 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Did I forget the word? -42) <ehird> With enough crappiness a display can show you invisible pink unicorns. -43) <Deewiant> I spent the last minute or so killing myself repeatedly -44) <Aftran> It looks like my hairs are too fat. Can you help me split them? -45) <Deewiant> Reality isn't a part of physics -46) <Octalnet> oklofok: I'm a tad over-apologetic. I apologize. -47) <pikhq> Gregor is often a scandalous imposter. It's all the hats, I tell you. -48) <GregorR-L> If I ever made a game where you jabbed bears ... <GregorR-L> I'd call it jabbear. -49) <oklopol> GregorR: are you talking about ehird's virginity or your soda beer? -50) <ehird> no Deewiant <Deewiant> No?! <Deewiant> I've been living a lie <ehird> yep. <Deewiant> Excuse me while I jump out of the window -> -51) <GregorR> ??? <GregorR> Are the cocks actually just implanted dildos? <GregorR> Or are there monster dildos and cocks? <GregorR> Or are both the dildos and cocks monster? -52) <apollo> Maternal instincts? <apollo> Don't you just leave the thing in a box until it starts crying, and then shake it until it stops? -53) <Warrigal> I think hamsters cannot be inert. -54) <apollo> I like Country music, Contemporary Christian, Alt. Rock, Folk, etc. -55) <Madelon> yay fire! * Madelon combusts spontaneously. -56) <Warrigal> Porn. <Warrigal> There, see? -57) <apollo> So... copyright doesn't really apply to God. -58) <Madelon> both of you, quit it with the f-bombs. <Madelon> kaelis: what's the matter? something censoring stuff you're interested in? -59) <Sgeo> What else is there to vim besides editing commands? -60) <oklopol> hmm, this is hard -61) <oklopol> actually just ate some of the dog food because i didn't have any human food... after a while they start tasting like porridge -62) <oklopol> if a girl is that cute, i don't care how many penises she has -63) <Oranjer> oohhh <Oranjer> ha <Oranjer> heh <madbrain> and what are your other characteristics? <Oranjer> oh, many, madbrain <Oranjer> but it's hardly worth it to go on with listing that list here -64) * oerjan swats FireFly since he's easier to hit -----### <FireFly> Meh * FireFly dies -65) <fungot> Oranjer: the taylor's series is also alternately fnord as follows ( i'm using the latex notation here): david ben gurion signed the compensation agreement with germany when there was considerable division over these issues, because these are speculations without " any historical basis". -66) <fax> im the worst person in the world -67) <fungot> i am sad ( of course by analogy) :) smileys) -68) <fungot> ehird: every set can be well-ordered. corollary: every set s has the same diagram used from famous program talisman with fnord windows to cascade, someone i would never capitalize " i" -69) <oklopol> Warrigal: what do you mean by 21? -70) <coppro> SF.net porn :/ <ehird> Oh yeah, baby, gimme that... bloated download page? -71) <oklofok> i use dynamic indentation, i indent lines k times, if they are used O(n^k) times during a run of the program -72) <AnMaster> I'm 100% of what sort of magic was involved in it -73) <ehird> Gracenotes: No I said it does 54-bit -74) <Warrigal> Invalid! Kill! Kill! <Aftran> I get that feeling too. -75) <Warrigal> It's not incest if you're third cousins! -76) <@Lawlabee> Why does Monday start at 10PM on Sunday? -77) <Dylan> Warrigal is the Harlem Globe Frotter -78) <Eeyore> I used to have salt licks for my horses. They would make cool abstract sculptures with them. -79) <Sgeo|web> Where's the link to the log? <lament> THERE'S NO LOG. YOUR REQUEST IS SUSPICIOUS AND HAS BEEN LOGGED. -80) <fedoragirl> My mascot is a tree of broccoli. -81) [Warrigal] `addquote <Dylan> hahaha, Lawlabee is running windows <Lawlabee> 'cuz it's pretty awesome. [Lawlabee] Warrigal: :( -82) Note that quote number 124 is not actually true. -83) <Warrigal> Ah, vulva. <Warrigal> What is that, anyway? -84) <Slereah> I can do everything a Turing machine can do, except love -85) <MissPiggy> bi is like sqrt(2)/2 * straight + i * sqrt(2)/2 * gay -86) <virtuhird> Sgeo_: Gregorr: and someone could, by mistake, rewrite psox to be a weak erection if it is... A filename. -87) <Warrigal> So, I'm inside a bottle which is being carried by a robot. -88) <dtsund> For those who don't know: INTERCAL is basically the I Wanna Be The Guy of programming languages. Not useful for anything serious, but pretty funny when viewed from the outside. -89) <Warrigal> A person's sex is not the same thing as their penis length. -90) <scarf> and an AMICED literal would presumably /add/ info to the source <scarf> whatever info gets added, that's the value that the AMICED doesn't contain <scarf> it's all falling into place -91) <ais523> so a.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k.com might be self-relative, but a.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k.l.com always means a.b.c.d.e.f.g.h.i.j.k.l.com.? -92) <ais523> let's put that in the HackEgo quotes files, just to completely mystify anyone who looks back along them in the future -93) <fax> oklopol geez what are you doing here <oklokok> ...i don't know :< <oklokok> i actually ate until now, although i guess i also did other things... -94) <songhead95> think of all the starving kids in china who don't have rotting sea life to eat -95) <Warrigal> Making a small shrine to Lawlabee in my basement is something I should get around to at some point. -96) <Warrigal> I seem to think of coaxial cables as being omnipotent somehow. -97) <vadim> it can be a good fursuit, but the good thing is that nobody can complain a fox doesn't have the right skin tone -98) <Gregor> I don't know that I've ever heard apocalypi described in terms of depth ... -99) <ais523> (still, whatever possessed anyone to invent the N-Gage?) -100) <Keiya> Why are the cops in GTA always so obsessed with my asshole? -101) <ais523> theory: some amused deity is making the laws of physics up as they go along -102) <Keiya> I want a patent on common sense <Keiya> It wouldn't get me much though >_> -103) <Miya> I perceived it so hard I actually went away :O -104) <AnMaster> fungot!*@* added to ignore list. <fungot> AnMaster: i'd find that a bit annoying to wait for an ack. -105) * Warrigal refuses to say goodbye to Quas NaArt, as he is coming closer, not going farther. -106) <fax> sekuoir: that's just gay sex <sekuoir> I am learning though! -107) <Gregor> Well yeah, but furthermore unlike, oh, say, an Apple product, you don't have to sign their "we own your sperm" license agreement to GET that SDK and the requisite libraries. ... <Gregor> pikhq: Sure, but it's the only way Apple could get a first-born-son clause into a modern licensing agreement without infringing child or slave labor laws. -108) <fax> okay I see it now, quines do exist -109) <Warrigal> Darn, now I can't acknowledge the reference you were making. -110) <soupdragon> if you claim that the universe is more than 3D the burden of proof is on you to produce a klien bottle that doesn't self intersect <soupdragon> ^ I learned that trick from atheists -111) <alise> use "grep --crazy" -112) * augur rubs alise's bum [...] <augur> what? she said square ped <augur> :| -113) <oerjan> insufficient time dilation. try running faster. -114) <fungot> alise: why internet is like wtf -115) <DoctorDog> I am an inherently pornographic being. -116) <Quas_NaArt> Hooray! <Quas_NaArt> I'm an idiot. -117) <oklopol> you move on the tape and shit -118) <alise> like, just like I'd mark "Bob knob hobs deathly poop violation EXCREMENT unto;" as English <ais523> alise: that's great filler <alise> ais523: well it contains all the important words in the english language... -119) <pikhq> And... WTF is it doing. <pikhq> :( <Sgeo_> Is it sexing? -120) <Bubo> ooh a test to see your procrastination hotspots <Bubo> ill do it later -121) <fungot> pikhq: from csh type ' exit', is a simple protocol which provides an interface to c. [...] -122) <fungot> alise: nobody is allowed to fnord me in soviet russia -123) <fungot> AnMaster: intercal-72 c-intercal clc-intercal j-intercal yes all versions all versions -124) <fungot> AnMaster: to any airbus plane. 3 passengers sadly died the most awesome thing ever. -125) <fungot> [...] i'm a law student so i am loving my bread machine -126) <AnMaster> alise, marble <AnMaster> marbelus -127) <alise> cmake is a nuclear powered waffle iron powered by a burning-hot testicle attachment <alise> and it burns one of the waffles and doesn't touch the other. -128) <coppro> we'd care about a turing-complete pencil -129) <oerjan> alise: mainly it's the fact it blows so hard i cannot avoid hitting the walls of the thing, which completely goes against my basic public toilet hygiene principles -130) <coppro> what's the data of? [...] <Sgeo> Locations in a now deceased game called Mutation <coppro> I have no problems with you being interested in online games <coppro> but the necrophilia is disturbing -131) <Mathnerd314> Gregor-P: I don't think lambda calculus is powerful enough -132) <Quas_NaArt> Because you're a Mac user. <lacota> I am! and proud of it to <lacota> My mouse has *no* buttons. -133) * Phantom_Hoover wonders where the size of the compiled Linux kernel comes from. <cpressey> To comply with the GFDL, there's a copy of Wikipedia in there. -134) <oklopol> but yeah i'm not exactly comfortable with this stuff, to me it seems like if you can unscrew lightbulbs, why couldn't you see into the future, or through walls as well -135) <AnMaster> oerjan, can you ever get any number higher than 3 at the start of "ordinary" [look-and-say sequences]? <ais523> it's not clear from the RFCs -136) <ais523> reading playboy for the articles actually seems plausible nowadays <ais523> after all, there's porn all over the internet, why would you /pay/ for it -137) <CakeProphet> how does a "DNA computer" work. <CakeProphet> von neumann machines? <Phantom_Hoover> CakeProphet, that's boring in the context of DNA. <Phantom_Hoover> It's just stealing the universe's work and passing it off as our own. -138) <fungot> CakeProphet: reading herbert might be enlightening in one hand he held a long worm can be greased. twice i got it nearly there, and the protector of cattle. mars is also mentioned as a rainbow. as a seated baboon sometimes with its head. -139) <fungot> ais523: killer bunnies can be harmed by domesticated canines only. -140) <fungot> ais523: elf corpses are not considered expensive health food. but the most expensive. -141) <zzo38> Some people are reasonable, some people who are not reasonable insist on changing things so therefore progress depends on not reasonablepeple -142) <ais523> cpressey: I have actually done a waterfall-model project that almost worked <cpressey> That's where you have a flexible kayak that bobs and weaves between the rocks as it plummets off the cliff -143) <Gregor> alise: I suck at coding related. -144) <cheater99> incest is best -145) <ivancastillo75> Oh I get it you guys just use this space to do nothing ? -146) <Sgeo> Why shouldn't I just do everything in non-Microsoft-specific C#? <ais523> it's like trying to write non-IE-specific JavaScript with only Microsoft documentation and only IE to test on -147) (in #irp) <Sgeo> Flonk, ask on #esoteric? <Flonk> Sgeo: yeah well its C++, so not that esoteric :P -148) <alise> So basically we're having an awful lot of very dangerous intercourse. <alise> Involving open wounds. <coppro> I'm going to take a shower -149) <Gregor> <badgood> GOODBAD! Your watered down brand of evil conflicts with my botched attempts at dogoodery! -150) <Phantom_Hoover> OK, so is conspiring to conspire to commit a crime a crime? <cpressey> Let's all get together and talk about defacing public property sometime -151) <pikhq> INTERNET <coppro> YAY <cpressey> Said like a once-drowning man, rescued, taking a breath. -152) <AnMaster> cpressey, oh go to zzo's website. He is NIH <Phantom_Hoover> AnMaster, really? I was strongly under the impression that zzo was invented here. -153) <nooga> i think of languages as tools, there is no holy grail of languages <olsner> even if there's no holy grail, that doesn't mean cups of crap is ok -154) <fungot> pikhq: it was fragrant with the scent of abomination. hear a speech declaring a holy war, is the man insane? some idiot missionary gets himself killed, some man writes some gibberish about the shape of a dragon, wonse?" -155) * Phantom_Hoover sticks crayons in his nose -156) <cpressey> Never ever use a quote which contains both the words "aloofness" and "gel" (verb). -157) <alise> I love logic, especially the part where it makes no sense. -158) <oklopol> pigeons are very smart. all the known ways to show a language is not regular are based on pigeons. -159) <ais523> it was too difficult -160) <Gregor-W> You people. You people are so stupid. I'm making a SOCIOLOGICAL statement here. -161) <ais523> you should be eating corpses more -162) <fungot> Sgeo: hahaah, and i love when they announced it i dare u to press alt f4 and your house ( acts 16:31 your bible) -163) <fungot> alise: so parrot was based around gcc? -164) <fungot> Vonlebio: well, i'm only back in denmark because my work visa expired. please insert token to continue. -165) <alise> Phantom_Hoover: Don't be nasty; he's a lunatic, not a murderer. -166) <oklofok> colon is where your ass comes from right -167) <cpressey> < ais523> then running repeatedly until you get the right sequence of random numbers < ais523> and just completely ignoring the input <-- some people live their entire lives this way, i reckon -168) <alise> "Europe is the national anthem of the Republic of Kosovo." <cpressey> alise: I <cpressey> I was going to say something then your last line floored me -169) <alise> Why do you use random acronyms you know we don't know the expansions of? <pikhq> alise: TLAAW -170) <fizzie> It's like mathematicians, where the next step up from "trivial" is "open research question". <fizzie> "Nope... No...This problem can't be done AT ALL. This one--maybe, but only with two yaks and a sherpa. ..." -171) <Vorpal> alise, it works fine for irc but interactive stuff? no. -172) <pikhq> Vorpal: YOU ARE AMERICAN -173) <oerjan> it's not obvious from quantum mechanics that you can destroy a universe arbitrarily. -174) <benuphoenix> the pregnant ones are usually taken already. -175) <fizzie> (I've just been playing with myself.) -176) <Phantom_Hoover> It's only been 2 months since anyone last made a commit! <alise> WRONG 8 WEEKS -177) <Phantom_Hoover> Doing logs with dc is probably indicative of something in the DSM. -178) <Vorpal> dc -e '[a=]P?[b=]P?[dSarLa%d0<a]dsax+[GCD:]Pp' # easier-to-read version -179) <Vorpal> ais523, what is "MS Publisher"? <Phantom_Hoover> Vorpal, you don't want to know. <ais523> Vorpal: be glad that you don't know the answer <alise> Vorpal: "horrible" -180) <alise> i like to imagine their mangled limbs. -181) <calamari> I got a game in my cereal box and I want to run it lol -182) <catseye> i like the feeling of freedom you get driving a bus -183) <oklopol> comex: what? <oklopol> *vorpal <oklopol> comex: hi, tab-complete completed c to comex instead of Vorpal, dunno why -184) <fungot> Vorpal: you can't plant spiders, duh! -185) <fungot> elliott: i like scsh's mechanism best: it's most transparent and doesn't really serve a very useful feature. -186) <fungot> ais523: my nose feels like a bad heuristic -187) <zzo38> catseye: Please wake up. Not recorded for this timezone. The big spider is not your dream -188) <fungot> elliott: it's hard to debug havoc on your mirror if you accidentally hit r, then a character could be multiple words long, depending on the task. -189) <ais523> syntax is the least important part of a programming language <ais523> other than Python -190) * Gregor bashes his head into the wall that is Sgeo. -191) [spam] Any flavored hell can pee on the pig pen, but it takes a real football team to throw a slyly optimal formless void at a hole puncher. -192) <oklopol> there's a rather clear separation into the 99% of esolangs that are fun syntax ideas, and the 3% that someone actually put some thought into. -193) <fizzie> I don't trust ducks. They always look like they're planning something. I'm not sure it's a good idea to give them language capabilities. -194) <cpressey> fizzie: I can never tell with OpenBSD! <cpressey> everything looks like an error anyway -195) <Sgeo> HOT SEXY SEX BITS -196) <Sgeo> How much do mainframes cost these days? I mean, they're obsoleteish, right? My notebook's much more powerful? So surely, they're cheap? -197) <Gregor> elliott: My university has two Poultry Science buildings. <Gregor> Two! -198) <olsner> DAMN YOU, I'm leaving <Vorpal> olsner, FINALLY NOTHING BETWEEN ME AND WORLD DOMINATION! -199) <pikhq> Give me a beaver and I'll put it to work. -200) <oklopol> well i just ate some stuff and watched family guy <oklopol> and i own a piano <oklopol> and i'm not wearing socks -201) <ais523> fizzie: 50kB is quite a lot -202) <Phantom_Hoover> [...] I'm just widening the shaft to be 4x2 or so. -203) <Zuu> it seems that CUIL is dead -204) <Sgeo> Hmm. I want to try vanilla extract now, but I don't want the alcohol -205) Thanks to nooga for constructive criticism, his ideas and being a constant annoyance. --http://theendisnear.no-ip.info/ -206) <elliott> Vorpal loves the sodomy. <Vorpal> elliott, sure why not -207) <elliott> So it's not exactly trivial. [Later about same thing] <elliott> It's a trivial C program :P -208) <Gregor> "* There is no scientifically-justifiable reason to exclude pornography, which is a vital part of the web ecosystem. However, bear in mind that we're tracing JavaScript, not MPEG and JPEG decoding." <Gregor> ^^^ This bullet-point is my crowning achievement as as a scientist. -209) <tswett> That is the mark of Gregor right there. <ais523> tswett: except that Gregor didn't write that <tswett> It's still the mark of Gregor. -210) <Phantom_Hoover> For instance, Jesus' Y chromosome was clearly GOD'S. -211) <Phantom_Hoover> OK, let's reduce the human genome to 4 chromosomes, in 2 homologous pairs. -212) <Vorpal> (had real world issues) <Vorpal> (to deal with) <ehird> Vorpal's pregnant. <Vorpal> yes -213) <tswett> elliott: just to bring you up to speed, you are now my baby nephew. <olsner> wtf, elliott is a nephew and his uncle is here? <nooga> what <tswett> Heck yes I'm elliott's uncle. -214) * pikhq sticks several thousand kg m^2/A s^3 through elliot <elliott> pikhq: I'm underage! -215) <pikhq> zzo38: A better definition would probably fix Avogadro's number. <Sgeo> It's broken? -216) <Sgeo> Oh. Stuff that uses actual physical numbers stemming from science. Bleh *gets bored* -217) <elliott> quintopia: that's offensive, i was in a mirror accident and now my second half is a permanent mirror <elliott> typing is kind of difficult -218) <Sgeo> My quotes are boring -219) <elliott> oerjan: What, can girls aim their penises better? -220) <l4rk> your premise to falsify "false" is false -221) <ais523> I love the way zzo38's comment was cut off after the f of brainfuck <ais523> that's just the most hilarious place to cut it off in a discussion about censorshi -222) "Every physicist wants to violate Einstein, but thus far the great man has remained pretty chaste." --Kode Vicious -223) <fizzie> The Perl script is probably slower than the Befunge code. -224) <Goosey> I can play crysis, but not minecraft? -225) <zzo38> Maybe they should just get rid of Minecraft. If more people want it someone can make using GNU GPL v3 or later version, with different people, might improve slightly. -226) <oerjan> elliott: i think i wrote a proof of 0*x = 0 on this channel once -227) * oerjan considered buying lutefisk, but apparently it cannot be prepared in microwave </bachelor frog> -228) <zzo38> Invent the game called "Sandwich - The Card Game" and "Professional Octopus of the World" (these names are just generated by randomly) -229) <zzo38> I have plans to make the computer and one day I will do it!! (I have access to barter some people might help with these things) It is many difference from other computer. -230) <elliott> </pedant> ... come to think of it, <pedant> -231) <Sgeo> Is there a name for something where I'm more attracted to someone if I know they've had a rough past? <variable> Sgeo, "Little Shop of Horrors" -232) <fizzie> And to think: if only we wouldn't celebrate birthdays, there would be no birthday paradox, and we could get by with half as long hash functions. (What do you mean it doesn't work that way?) -233) <elliott> clue is a language for beauty, not usefulness <elliott> or ability to run at all <oklopol> ability to run at all is not even close to a design goal, no -234) <Phatom__Hovver> LoTR actually compresses pretty well into a film; the large amount of description becomes unnecessary. <pikh> LotR would compress pretty well into a book; the large amount of description *is* unnecessary. -235) <j-invariant> 22:55 < qfr> How am I supposed to develop software in Haskell if I can't even prepare my projects in UML?! It seems like an impossible task. <j-invariant> HAHA [...] <j-invariant> this is amazing, like meeting a Mormon or something -236) <Dylan> as long as the first dozen pages don't contain the word "panties" it is probably a good story. -237) <quintopia> vorpal: a lot of people in AK fly <Vorpal> quintopia, well getting a pilot cert is a lot more complex than a driving license :P <quintopia> being an AK resident is a lot more complex than a driver's license too -238) <asiekierka> GCC: -Os -O2 -O3 gives a 4x improvment -239) <elliott> Getting bad programmers to like something is a failure. -240) [CTCP] Received CTCP-ERRMSG reply from clog: unknown CTCP: ERRMSG. -241) <elliott> i thought you said it was meant to be more useful in practice :D <ais523> elliott: well, it /is/, for sufficient values of useful in practice <ais523> umm, sufficiently small -242) <ais523> yay CDE -243) <oklopol> oerjan: also actually A(4, 4) is larger than any other integer, i learned this the other day when i was reading about this algo, it had complexity O(n a^-1(n)) = O(n a^-1(4)) -244) <oklopol> hey speaking of young, some kinds asked me to buy some tobacco for them and i did, and then they were all likd "wow that guy's coool" when i told them i don't need their money -245) <oklopol> ah yes, indeed, alan turing was gay and stupid -246) <nddrylliog> are you always careful to have a small enough margin so that it can't contain the proof? <oklofok> nddrylliog: i usually use latex, and make sure my hd is almost full -247) [on Walter Bright] <nddrylliog> I went to chat with him after his talk at the ELC and he was like "hum, right - humans. How do they work again... oh, hi!" -248) <nddrylliog> Sgeo: re "hm?": at the emerging languages conf., after the talks we went out for a drinks and all the Factor team was on heavy liquor -249) <elliott> mtve, now he's an expert idler. <nddrylliog> mtve: kitty kitty kitty -250) <Vorpal> ooh I want to see ehird pole dancing <ehird> I think that would be illegal. <Vorpal> oh you are right <Vorpal> damn :/ -251) <j-invariant> I need a new desktop background <Gregor> j-invariant: Try http://codu.org/spinners.png (tiled) <j-invariant> uhrghoaudp -252) * quintopia sits on gregor -253) <Phantom_Hoover> [...] reyouthismootherate [...] -254) <fizzie> Deewiant: Did you take the course at some point and/or were you taking it now and/or did you actually already graduate and/or are you still in Otaniemi anyway? -255) <nddrylliog> elliott: are you kidding? you're horrible, horrible people. That's why I feel at home here. -256) <locks> who's walter bright and why is he so bright <nddrylliog> locks: he's to D what I'm to ooc <nddrylliog> locks: guilty -257) <A. Gelman and G. Romero> We originally wrote this article in Word, but then we converted it to Latex to make it look more like science. -258) <Phantom_Hoover> This is good if you are a wheat plant but bad if you like eating wheat seeds. -259) <zzo38> ais523: Maybe it is better, because I don't think the octopus will live very well in the tree. But the difference is that the Internet is lying and you cannot see such things; you could make modified picture, though, in order to lie more clearly, at least. -260) <ais523> gah, why does lose keep winning? -261) <oerjan> (the former is a very deep theorem, i'd have had to read the whole book to understand it, so i didn't.) -262) <quintopia> who is guido van rossum <olsner> you could say he's a man who grew a beard but acquired none of the associated good properties -263) <olsner> actually, I think vorpal is the "retarded team member" to the left -264) <elliott> Deewiant: ha, you were wrong, I have stacks, fungespace and MULTIPLE functions! <elliott> and a monad! <elliott> nothing can stop me now! -265) <Vorpal> !bfjoust test (-)*10000 <EgoBot> Score for Vorpal_test: 12.9 <Vorpal> yay -266) <Vorpal> !bfjoust test (++-)*1000000 <Vorpal> probably will suck <EgoBot> Score for Vorpal_test: 30.4 <Vorpal> what -267) <Vorpal> `addquote <elliott_> I'm a bit 'tarded. <Vorpal> (NOTHING PERSONAL!) -268) <ineiros> HELLWORLD! <fizzie> It's like HELLO WORLD, except not *quite*. <ineiros> There is more agony. -269) <Deewiant> My STRN.G detects runoff strings that haven't been terminated but would hit a zero after wrapping and tries to allocate the 16+-gigabyte-stack required -270) <xplat> so you have legacy software in befunge that needs supported? -271) <oerjan> <Gregor> oerjan: Tell us what (a(b{c}d)*2e)%2 expands to <-- ababcdbcdedbabcdbcdede, i think <Gregor> oerjan: What - the - fuck -272) [on egojoust] <elliott> The fact is that EgoBot's % handling is O(slow) and O(big), and mine isn't. -273) <ais523> OK, I give up, logging into Wikia is harder than writing a Firefox extension -274) <Deewiant> !bfjoust sm3 < <EgoBot> Score for Deewiant_sm3: 43.4 -275) <fizzie> $ perl -e '/? <-- HERE/' Quantifier follows nothing in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/? <-- HERE <-- HERE/ at -e line 1. -276) <Gregor> !bfjoust furry_furry_strapon_pegging_girls http://sprunge.us/eKWa * Sgeo had no idea that Gregor was hetero -277) <Gregor> I'm blond with blue (sort of) eyes, so I could totally stealth my way through the holocaust ... or some such logic :P -278) <fizzie> file:///home/fis/src/chainlance/tapestats.png -- yes, I think it's nice that way when the edge is always the opponent's flag. -279) <zzo38> If you want to use TeX formats invented by Christians, use Plain TeX. However, I do not think the religion of its author is a good way to decide what to use. I decide to use Plain TeX for its own reasons. -280) <elliott> lol @ closed character set standard <elliott> "What does this codepoint represent?" "Nobody knows." -281) [on DNA Maze] <ais523> it requires more thought than Vorpal seems to be capable of -282) <nddrylliog> back to legal tender, that expression really makes me daydream. Like, there'd be black-market tender. Out-of-town hug shops where people exchange tenderness you've NEVER SEEN BEFORE. -283) <fizzie> Phantom_Hoover: I have just one tvtropes page open in elinks, but my tvtropes.txt "queue" has 38 tvtropes.org URLs waiting for processing. -284) * yorick has quit (K-Lined) -285) <zzo38> Lymia: I put big spider in my bed already. So if you have no more left you do not have to worry about it anymore. You can just take a cold shower or hot acid or whatever you want to, instead. -286) <ais523> gah, who'd have thought removing concurrency from algol could be so difficult -287) <elliott> 320 quotes and still not a funny one yet! -288) <oklopol> zzo38: you missed the point. the point was way stupider than that. -289) <elliott> just because i'm homosexual <elliott> doesn't mean i have sex with men. <elliott> ...i'm also a paedophile [...] <elliott> see if i'm a gay paedophile <elliott> i don't have sex with men <elliott> i have sex with BOYS -290) <oklopol> actually the first joke i thought elliott was making was that he's so small masturbation is gay pedophilia -291) * elliott injects coke into his testicles -292) <zzo38> Why do you want to have sex in everything? I don't want. -293) <oklopol> okay see in my head it went, you send from your other number smth like "i'd certainly like to see you in those pink panties again" and she's like "WHAT?!? Sgeo took a pic?!?!?! that FUCKING PIG" -294) <Phantom__Hoover> Gregor, yeah, but Purdue has poultry science facilities beyond the dreams of avarice. -295) <zzo38> However is probably better to have both queen/king and government in case one does bad thing, the other side can argue to them -296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -297) <oklopol> shit would make great currency, because everyone would have it and you could literally be filthy rich -298) <fungot> elliott: there go my minutes of research!! -299) <Warrigal> My penis is definitely way smaller than that. -300) <tswett> There are white Africans out there, but, you know. A black swan in the hand does not imply causation. -301) <fungot> Phantom_Hoover: if the list is in random order, like poor ehird here -302) <Phantom_Hoover> elliott, incidentally, I started my explorations again after getting bored of the Himalayas. -303) * Received a CTCP VERSION from nyuszika7h * VERSION Microsoft IRC# 2011 64-bit (Windows 8 Beta, x64, 2GB RAM) <nyuszika7h> Gregor: Windows 8 Beta? o_O <Gregor> A small benefit of my brief time as an intern at MS. -304) <cpressey> addquoting yourself? isn't that like commenting on your own facebook status? <Gregor> Yup, but I'm JUST THAT AWESOME. -305) <fungot> Phantom_Hoover: mutation is often considerably harder for both humans and compilers can analyze it much more difficult' part that induces bloody vomit... huh....intriguing -306) <fungot> oerjan: are you in an aware state when the only hammer you have is for variable assignation and blocks -307) <oklopol> quintopia: no i'm not laughing at you, i'm laughing because *you're stupid* <oklopol> i mean <oklopol> with you -308) 00:07 Sgeo has quit (IRC is taking up too much of my time. I need time to study the Bible and find Christ.) 00:12 Sgeo has joined #esoteric. -309) <zzo38> Is anyone in here who knows cricket rules and has experience? <Slereah> What if I told you the baseball rules in a british accent? -310) <zzo38> I also do not like that it should be disallow just because of too weird. They haveto make up more name so that not everyone has the same name!!! -311) <catseye> wow, thinkgeek really makes me hate being alive -312) <olsner> it is from 2002 though, I was younger then -313) <elliott> ais523: quick, say something funny <oklopol> something funny hagrea:D <oklopol> can'tä sopt laughitn -314) <ais523> elliott: hey, thinking's easier than using the Internet -315) <ZOMGMODULES> elliott: parents who put just "Chris" on a birth certificate are... like parents who put just "Bob" on a birth certificate. -316) <Phantom_Hoover> ZOMGMODULES, St. Christopher, saint and werewolf. -317) <olsner> django is named after a person? <olsner> thought it would be a giraffe or something -318) <Gregor> Ohheywait, I can make it a raytracer instead of a photon tracer so long as I run time backwards. -319) <cpressey> BYE dbc WE'LL BE SURE TO ACCIDENTALLY MENTION YOUR NICK OFTEN -320) <tswett> Of course, "b" is clearly just "pv". <tswett> Say "pvottle". It will sound... similar to exactly the same as "bottle". -321) [After a long monologue] <oklopol> i think i have to escape this heated discussion before it becomes a flamewar -322) <Gregor> That's for $literals in the parser. It should maybe be atol too, but probably you shouldn't have nonterminals with more than two billion children. -323) <zzo38> elliott: I doubt water memory can last for even one second in a gravitational field (or even outside of a gravitational field), but other people think they can make water memory with telephones. -324) <oklopol> i'm really sleep -325) <Gregor> elliott: Fythe-generated code doesn't use C calling conventions, because C calling conventions are for pussies. -326) <lament> elliott: well what i would do if i were omniscient and omnipotent would be to create an immortal woman with perfect tits and bang her for the rest of eternity -327) <Gregor> I use LiGNUXFCE+apps <Gregor> That's pronounced by saying "Linux" and then vomiting, btw. -328) <monqy> I've only watched bad movies about video game. I enjoyed every second of it. -329) <oklopol> and then there's the slightly annoying one where suddenly, i start rolling forward and i can't stop <oklopol> like i can be having some great sex dream or whatever and then suddenly "oh god not this again" <oklopol> (i go "not this again" but not necessarily realize it's a dream) -330) <Vorpal> elliott, it was an artful robbery! <Vorpal> wait, murder -331) <zzo38> I think I managed to make Stack Overflow work on gopher, now. -332) <oklopol> haha, god made one helluva blunder there :DS <oklopol> "WHOOPS HE AIN'T DEAD YET!" <oklopol> "luckily no one will believe him because christians are such annoying retards" -333) <zzo38> Not all Christians are, but there are a lot of Christians that are such annoying retards. -334) <elliott> <Yahweasel> <Vorpal> that one doesn't make a lot of sense outside context. Unless it is supposed to be a rather lame joke about STD as in HIV, and so on // HELLO WELCOME TO QUOTE DATABASES 101 -335) <elliott> A priori one cannot say that post hoc ergo propter hoc the diminishing returns would give; yet under quid pro quo one can agglutinate fabula and sujet into vagrancies untold. <elliott> See? I'm intellectual. -336) <Sgeo_> I think she either likes me, is neutral towards me, or dislikes me -337) <Phantom_Hoover> DON'T MOCK ME WITH YOUR ABILITY TO DIVIDE BY TEN -338) <Phantom_Hoover> Oh, Hitler! You and your wacky antics! -339) <crystal-cola> anyway I've stopped ``trolling'' <crystal-cola> since apparently you guys don't like me claiming obviously false and absurd claims -340) <oklopol> i actually do like sucking -341) <zzo38> [...] you cannot always sanity, please. I can sometimes sanity, please. -342) <oklopol> i understand that people had to use twitter and facebook before irc was invented, but now they just feel like ancient history -343) <pikhq> o.O <pikhq> There's a birth defect which results in the formation of a cloaca. <Gregor> It's called "not being a mammal" :P -344) <ais523> the big issue with category theory is that pretty much everything forms a category -345) <oklopol> esperanto is just spanish with a diarrhea -346) <oklofok> destroying a local copy of the world is kind of like raping a robochick with a shovel tho -347) <elliott> ais523: YOU WILL HAVE YOUR QUOTE SOON -348) <crystal-cola> I just thought you might have meant the Ramanujan tau and I was WOAH he weilds heavy weapons -349) <crystal-cola> http://www.sessionmagazine.com/img/nature/worlds-10-smallest-animals/worlds-10-smallest-animals07.jpg <crystal-cola> worlds biggest thumb -350) <elliott> oerjan: why so potable ...... <oerjan> DRINK ME -351) <crystal-cola> what telnets are there [...] <crystal-cola> where are a list of telnets? -352) <crystal-cola> (im not a lawyer) <crystal-cola> (im just making stuff up -353) <tswett> Grr. Why does it exist? Why can't I kill it? -354) <olsner> boston cream pie? sounds related to a cleveland steamer -355) <crystal-cola> here's a good multiplication algorithm <crystal-cola> 1010101 x 110 <crystal-cola> well <crystal-cola> I don't know how to do it but it starts like that -356) <crystal-cola> 3 = 7/2 -357) <Cheery> [...] OOPS.. my cockfile got destroyed -358) <Cheery> when I command it to do couple useful operations it instead mutilates my cock. -359) <Cheery> right now. but I'm about 4kiB away from a lisp interpreter running off the .cock -360) <zzo38> <elliott> <quintopia> i know it's unusual, but i agree with you both to some extent -361) <elliott> Nationalism is no more (probably less) logical than consumerism, after all, as stupid as the word "logical" is as a system to rank things -362) <Gregor> Write-only IRC: best idea <coppro> Gregor: we have that. It's called Twitter -363) <elliott> AV is better than first-past-the-post, like every voting system apart from the Random Elephant Stomping method -364) <Phantom_Hoover> Scotland turns from red and yellow to A DIFFERENT SHADE OF YELLOW -365) [on Sgeo's karaoke] <not_nddrylliog> Sgeo: awesome <not_nddrylliog> sounds like a japan anime sound track -366) [on Sgeo's karaoke] <Phantom_Hoover> That is the thing that made me into a gay vampire. -367) <Phantom_Hoover> Yeah, I went through a whole series of existential crises when I was 8 or so. -368) <elliott> Top universities now employ people to watch infomercials all day to find the latest mysteries. -369) <augur> oerjan you're swedish, right? -370) <monqy> my most fresh dream is one where I'm at a soup contest and a chicken really wants to participate but he's disqualified so he becomes the judge. when all the soups are done and he's ready to taste them he just stares at the soup and then I become the chicken and I really want to make soup -371) <Gregor> Google Maps has options for "avoid highways" and "avoid tolls", but no "avoid Chicago" -372) <cpressey> `quote django <HackEgo> 352) <olsner> django is named after a person? <olsner> thought it would be a giraffe or something <cpressey> thankfully only one -373) <monqy> `quote django <HackEgo> 352) <olsner> django is named after a person? <olsner> thought it would be a giraffe or something \ 407) <cpressey> `quote django <HackEgo> 352) <olsner> django is named after a person? <olsner> thought it would be a giraffe or something <cpressey> thankfully only one <monqy> thankfully only two -374) <cpressy> yeah the designers of the C++ template system really should have done a better job considering input <pikhq> s/done a better job considering input/been shot/ -375) <Sgeo> I was more of a pervert in Metaplace than Utherverse <Sgeo> I invented Metaplace sex >.> -376) <elliott> sgeo do you actually know what sex looks like i am just checking here <Sgeo> I think so -377) <ZOMGMODULES> I can trust elliott_ to have an opinion on anything and everything <elliott_> Yes. <elliott_> And the best thing is: it is the correct opinion. -378) <ZOMGMODULES> Vorpal: it's actually called Happy <ZOMGMODULES> Vorpal: Do not use it. Use Parsec. This is the wisdom of ZOMGMODULES. -379) <oklofok> i hope that isn't child pornography <oklofok> whew <oklofok> equally cute tho, have to admit -380) <ZOMGMODULES> Felix's home page and Falcon's home page are actually the same page -381) <ZOMGMODULES> scripting language. whole program analysis. together at last -382) <zzo38> I figured out something about C program. If you use ? : a lot then you don't need as much parentheses but it makes it more difficult to understand. -383) <zzo38> Finally I found the wand of electric lightning now we can destroy any large object if it needs to be destroyed and is required to use a such a wand for that purpose. -384) <olsner> two quotes about quotes about django <olsner> I guess the worst part is that I appear in all three hackego quotes about django -385) <elliott_> `addquote <olsner> two quotes about quotes about django <olsner> I guess the worst part is that I appear in all three hackego quotes about django <olsner> elliott_: another quote? you're not helping :/ -386) <CakeProphet> [...] I'm not very well-versed in lame. -387) <Phantom_Hoover> Lymia, I don't know what that is but I want to hit you for it on principle. -388) <Sgeo> Oracle's awesome -389) <GregorR> How to make a tasty deep-fried treat: 1) Buy ingredients: Large vat of boiling oil, dry ice and a small Filipino boy. 2) Place Filipino boy in dry ice until frozen solid. 3) Shatter now-frozen Filipino boy into boiling oil. 4) Wait fifteen minutes, drain and enjoy! <CakeProphet> I have the weirdest boner right now. -390) <Vorpal> CakeProphet, the X support is fairly recent. Not more than a few decades old -391) <elliott> oerjan: but hypothetically, assume a Christian spontaneously materialised during the apocalypse -392) <pikhq_> And if they wanted to go for "true" security, they'd just do "Warning: your computer has not been turned into a plasma. This may cause some of your personal data to be stolen. Click here to turn your computer into a ball of incandescent gas, a gigantic nuclear furnace." -393) <fizzie> [...] So it'll be a while before the boob will touch you back. -394) <fizzie> You make a fist, shake it at the sky, and shout "why, GNU, why?!" -- that is the standard reportig practice. -395) <Phantom_Hoover> The system I kind of have in mind makes a flying train a natural consequence. -396) <EgoBot> hey fhet's zeees OouooH SNEP IT'S A FOooCKING TIGER -397) <zzo38> Learn to be Chinese and kill yourself -398) <Sgeo> Hmm. I guess it's nearby GRBs that would be problematic? <Phantom_Hoover> Sgeo, if by 'problematic' you mean 'what's that in the AAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHH'. -399) <oklopol> yes i use the services of a psychic, but i'm considering getting a live one since stuff like "hello $name, your first name $first_name has |$first_name| letters, so by using numerology we can tell ..." is getting kind of boring -400) <zzo38> Fiddle. It makes a big difference, you know. -401) <oklopol> but touchscreens should feel like poking a boob -402) <oklopol> are there boobs you wack and squeeze around to move the mouse? [...] <oklopol> like those little nipples in laptop keyboards, but they'd be full-blown boobies -403) [after a long string of Lymia getting lambdabot to spit out huge, meaningless type signatures] <Lymia> I need to learn more Haskell... <CakeProphet> ..I need to get op privs. -404) <ais523> I think I managed something like a one-expression increment that was only a few hundred characters long -405) <monqy> Sgeo: also do you know how to write a parser <Sgeo> monqy, how hard could it be? -406) <Sgeo> I hope type inference isn't difficult -407) <Gregor> You have no idea how desperately I want to avoid being a GC guy :P <Gregor> Every year I go to ISMM and Doug Lea gives me a bizarrely-cheery "Hello!" and I'm like "awww shit I'm in memory management" -408) <oklopol> anyway i have to get going, first lecture at 9 and i need to do a few iterations on my article, and do some unmentionable things which also take hours <oklopol> and masturbate as well -409) <Phantom_Hoover> The eigenratio of reality has to be enormous, though. -410) <oklopol> so about jacuzzis, do they usually have a way to make it it not heat but freeze the water? -411) [on spiking] <CakeProphet> drugs are expensive. It would be a waste to use them on a random stranger. -412) <oklofok> what would you ever need petrol for <oklofok> newsflash: it doesn't actually taste that good -413) [on petrol] <ais523> oklofok: it's actually poisonous, so I advise against drinking it <Phantom_Hoover> ais523, also contains benzene, my carcinogen of choice. -414) <oklofok> "<pikhq> elliott: Americans also have 20 mile one-way commutes." <<< one-way commutes? you have like disposable jobs? -415) <oklofok> if i became a serial killer, it'd be because i want to kill people, not because i'm crazy -416) <elliott> It's a Toy Story character, you uncultured fuck. -417) <elliott> HAHAHAHA NO FNARF QUOTES EVER <Gregor> Oh noooooooooooooooooose! <elliott> Gregor: lol nose geddit -418) <olsner> you should know better than making þs out of wedlock -419) <elliott_> I'm not even going to try and understand what you're proposing. <oerjan> i understand it perfectly. it's completely nuts. -420) <Sgeo> I used to be more irritated by alcohol <olsner> Sgeo: you're not supposed to put it in your eyes -421) * perlmonkey is pursuing the line of reasoning that eating raw foods can improve cognitive function <Phantom_Hoover> perlmonkey, well, it certainly makes you think about what you'd rather be eating. -422) <Gregor> You just went from "no sexualized ads" to "we have ads for dildos, but they're different for ads for Orangina" X-D -423) <coppro> elliott: actually, it's worse right now, I'm in the USA <coppro> where the solution to counterfeiting problems is "add more ink" <coppro> eventually all US bills will just be solid green -424) <ais523_> meanwhile, I've been running a program for over 24 hours (getting close to 48 now) which is calculating digits of pi, in binary <ais523_> so far, it has found four digits <ais523_> I hope it will find the fifth some time this week -425) <Phantom_Hoover> The wickedest man of all. <Phantom_Hoover> Surpassed only in wickedness by the wicked witches of the west and east. <copumpkin> you talking about me again? <Phantom_Hoover> Yes. <copumpkin> k -426) <Sgeo_> "system is fairly sane <Sgeo_> <elliott> imagine if the roomba was called the Robotic Magic Vacuum <Sgeo_> <elliott> would you object to that being trademarked <Sgeo_> <monqy> I mean <Sgeo_> <monqy> phrase trade" <Sgeo_> oops -427) <Sgeo_> Something about faiing a asanity check <Sgeo_> sanity <Sgeo_> faliling <Sgeo_> failing -428) <zzo38> Sanity is insufficient by itself. Many other things are also important. -429) <olsner> as always in sweden everything goes to a fixed pattern: thursday is queueing at systembolaget to get beer and schnaps, friday is pickled herring, schnaps and dancing the frog dance around the phallos, saturday is dedicated to being hung over -430) <oerjan> i never meta turing. he died before i was born. -431) <elliott> oerjan: can you delete that and the meta turing completeness page <elliott> thanks <oerjan> elliott: IN UNIVERSO ALTERNATIVO, OERJAN PAGINAS DELET -432) <Gregor> decrypt 'illustrates the "can do" approach of conservatism in a patriotic way' -433) <elliott> Gregor: do you have any idea how overrated lives are <Gregor> Damn right! -434) <Gregor> "<Gregor> Damn right!" wouldn't be much of a quote :P -435) <elliott> im going to resurrect rutian <elliott> with vitamin pills <elliott> and book sales -436) <oerjan> adding quotes by yourself is strictly prohibited and will lead to you being banned -437) <oerjan> as i was filled with zzo38 mystery at the moment i saw <zzo38> quintopia: I am at Canada. -438) <NihilistDandy> elliott: His mouse obeys the law of the excluded middle :/ -439) <Phantom_Hoover> I go to clean up the shrapnel from a teabag and you're discussing the definition of god out of nowhere. -440) <d1ffe7e45e interpreter> The interpreter uses an unbounded tape size, but due to technical limitations will stop being unbounded if the tap size reaches 2^63 cells. -441) <Sgeo> Will anyone be irritated if I tend to disconnect and reconnect a lot? [...] <oerjan> we _almost_ have an established policy that bots will be banned it they do that. which means we might have to administer a turing test to sgeo, and that could get ugly. -442) <Phantom_Hoover> oerjan, little do you realise that everything you say and do is part of that great monad tutorial we call life. -443) <ais523> Phantom_Hoover: nope, I removed . from the current directory -444) <oklopol> [...] only the hamster's nervous system was tortured. although probably torturing a large logical gate constitutes a horrible thing to do if it comes in a cute container. -445) <Phantom_Hoover> pikhq, living in the future sucks. <Phantom_Hoover> The past just keeps coming up to us and trying to make us feel guilty. -446) <Gregor> oklopol: Why do you have so much experience with hoop-and-stick? :P <oklopol> Gregor: my fetish: learning pointless skills -447) <oklopol> such a famous bisexual <Phantom_Hoover> Yeah, like Marlon Brando. <Phantom_Hoover> And Caligula. <Phantom_Hoover> And... Keeley Hawes? <Phantom_Hoover> I feel cheated by Ashes to Ashes now. -448) <tswett> elliott: by the way, you're now almost capable of crawling. -449) <monqy> it was a wonderful dream <monqy> i died in it <monqy> that's how it started -450) <ais523> the thing about modern semiconductor design is, 0s are more powerful as 1s -451) * Sgeo mutters about broken toilets <Sgeo> #toilet is useless <monqy> is #toilet even a thing <Sgeo> I'm looking for help with toilets -452) <Sgeo> Dear eHow: Please don't assume that my toilet works like that <Sgeo> Or, at least, my toilet looks different -453) <oklofok> mixing drinks together is like taking all of mozart's works and listening to all of them at once <oklofok> and in general a drink - and most foods - are kind like taking a song and then just taking the average of the notes and listening to it for three minutes. <oklofok> olsner: the point is you don't have to be the composer yourself <oklofok> not everyone knows what sequences of drinks taste the best -454) <oklofok> drinks should come in long long pipes that drip liquid at varying speeds, and you shouldn't just casually taste to them, you should really try to understand what the artist (the canposer?) was trying to convey when making the drink <oklofok> olsner: well you know i'm a genius. anyway i like how food works tho, because it has both the element of composing and choice, it's kind of like an rpg really -455) <Madk> #%%:]__t�# <Madk> do you see that <Madk> that is great progress taking place -456) <oklopol> well you know because i could've used my "wtf, you have multiple identity elements smiley" o=oO=O <oklopol> yeah, i have a smiley for everything. -457) <fungot> elliott: i have yet to demonstrate that the sml community has less productive power than the real chunk of meat. -458) <fizzie> elliott: You have become the very thing you fought for! -459) <fizzie> Deewiant: Well, I guess you could argue so. But to me a it's not a real clobbering if you can still tell there was something that got clobbered. -460) <Taneb> Turned out he got recursion, he just didn't get the return statement -461) <SgeoN1> No nasty sounds for a while now. Going to turn off and on and see if the numbers get worse. -462) * Sgeo is risking massive forest fires <Sgeo> The bacon is worth it -463) <augur> ive been in #haskell and #agda primarily, recently <Phantom_Hoover> So is #agda now full of dependently-typed gay sex? -464) <oklopol> you know that thing in the movies where they put a pillow on someone's face and try to suffocate them <oklopol> that doesn't work. <oklopol> we tried that with my ex once, but we just couldn't kill each other that way -465) <fizzie> The zipWith Camel, a famous World War 1 era airplane. -466) <Taneb> Cut to February <Taneb> War were declared <Taneb> A galaxy in turmoil <Taneb> Anyway, Febuary '10 -467) <Taneb> I can't afford one of those! <Taneb> A grandchild, not a laser printer -468) <oklopol> doctor who. i saw part of one episode of that and it reminded me of buffy the vampire slayer. -469) <NihilistDandy> MY CONTINUITY <NihilistDandy> MY FANFICTION <NihilistDandy> RUINED -470) <itidus20> to assume that someone can be described by a rule without exception... is to assume they are omnipotent <oklopol> for instance stones are omnipotent, as they don't do anything, without exception -471) <oklofok> god created the natural numbers, the rationals were done by man and the work was finally completed (topologically) by satan himself -472) <ais523> (I don't include needing to use an object-oriented view of things as a reason to use C++, as C is better at that) -473) <Gregor> I have a WRT120N <fizzie> Gregor: The WRT160NL has 40 units more of... stuff. Plus an L. -474) <fizzie> There's that saying that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [...] <Taneb> You've just gave me a different result [...] <fizzie> It's always insane to expect different results, even when it's likely to occur. -475) <Taneb> Someone with that sort of grasp of logic shouldn't be allowed anything more computationally powerful than a plastic spoon -476) <Taneb> That offers me some social standing, feudal system wise -477) <oklopol> interestingly enough, go is a second player win <oklopol> chess is also first player win <oklopol> tennis, interestingly enough, is always a draw. -478) <Taneb> Look, I often walk my dog through a field with cows in it. And I punched myself in the face once. -479) <Sgeo> I'm having nostalgia for when we could see the glass from the floor -480) <NihilistDandy> The Russian's emblem was the hammer and sickle, not the fist and other fist -481) <fizzie> Deewiant: So you... reverse the byte order manually, but then call ntohl too? <Deewiant> fizzie: The host might be big-endian! -482) <elliott> God, I sure do hate Apple and their header files that only include the functions they're specified to. -483) <elliott> Do one better! Pretend to be an idiot until YOU DIE. -484) <Taneb> So... God has jizzed on everything? <oklopol> have you even READ the bible? -485) <elliott_> Vorpal: Won't be slower than Python ;-) <Vorpal> elliott_, yeah but that is like saying a T-Ford going down a hill won't be slower than a bicycle uphill on a bumpy road :P -486) <Taneb> This staircase is very good for correcting people's opininons about communism -487) <monqy> rest in peace lambdabot???? <ais523> monqy: it'll probably be back later <monqy> nap in peace -488) <Vorpal> ais523, how are we supposed to guess before you tell us unless you give us more hints? -489) <ais523> 99% OF USES OF STRDUP ARE ILLEGAL! -490) <NihilistDandy> Non sequitur is my forte <NihilistDandy> On-topic discussion is my piano <Taneb> Bowls of sugary breakfast cereal is my mezzoforte <Taneb> Full fat milk is my pianissimo <Taneb> On which note, I'm hungry -491) <elliott> in the title of the page it says "Well-Typed - The Haskell Consultants" but i want to know who are the haskell conraisins? -492) <zzo38> If in some day, I publish some book, that might include some of the programs I have written too, but also some other books, possibly. However I never yet publish any book. -493) <itidus20> monqy: last night in my dreams I saw a false photo album of my childhood... looking ghostly -494) <monqy> itidus20: i saw a dancing cgi skeleton named malaria. i danced and played with him. -495) <itidus20> It's ok guys. I am doing what I can to keep my psyche and ego surviving. All the while the threat of ww3 looms, the mortality of family and friends(loved ones?) and sooner or llater my own mortality. -496) <NihilistDandy> Capitalism is a cancer. But I'm a smoker, anyway, so... -497) <itidus20> Game theory is not a perfect tool for analyzing video games. <itidus20> Nash failed to create a "video game theory" -498) <itidus20> australia kicks ass <itidus20> we have kangaroos and DMM and isn't afraid of anything -499) <Sgeo> My memory passed <monqy> rest in peace sgeos memory -500) <monqy> cigaretes and drunking "lame highs for lame people" <oerjan> yeah if it doesn't make you go crazy and shoot at people, it's not worth it. take it from a norwegian. -501) <fungot> tswett: last argument must be a cub scout!! have you made your money-drop today?? -502) [2008] <nooga> i'm testing Haiku <nooga> and it appears that it is a major shit <oerjan> 5+7+5, not 5+11, nooga -503) <Taneb> Speaking of the CiSRA puzzles, anyone want to form a team <oerjan> i avoid my duties by carefully never registering to anything new -504) <Taneb> aibohphobia <Taneb> The fear of palindromes -505) <Phantom_Hoover> Sgeo_, the origin of suffering is desire for e-book readers. -506) <zzo38> elliott_: No it isn't a game, it is a computer game -507) <ais523> it actually worked, and faster than using Excel for rendering -508) <Patashu> Tomorrow's computer viruses will extend robotic arms from your computer to fiddle with the SD card to infect it!! -509) <monqy> beautiful summer / fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck / fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck -510) <pikhq> I actually had a Neopets account. I later gained a second digit in my age. -511) <Taneb> So it's like... Rummy mixed with... breakout? -512) <oerjan> i try to be a hermit but it's hard with all these housemates. -513) <Taneb> Well, I'm now experimenting with clients <fizzie> It doesn't sound like good PR to say that out loud. -514) <Taneb> I combined the wholegrain breakfast and chocolatey breakfast for maximum breakfast efficiency -515) <fungot> fizzie: i, myself, will bring an end to all. -516) <MDude> Tooth or Bear: Each turn, either take out your own tooth, or wrestle a bear. -517) <fungot> elliott: an old colonel lost, but a new brother gained. together they will ascend, each time you must be adventurin'. -518) <fungot> Phantom_Hoover: it is a hate so pure and... pumpkin seeds? -519) <Phantom_Hoover> Oh look, Dax has brought TWO glowy science sticks. <Phantom_Hoover> SHIT JUST GOT REAL -520) <Phantom_Hoover> OK, Taneb's been taken by a mood and he needs raw emeralds. <Phantom_Hoover> It's been fun knowing him. -521) <Phantom_Hoover> Taneb's been hit by melancholy. <Phantom_Hoover> He didn't have any friends, fortunatel.y -522) <Phantom_Hoover> Oh god. <Phantom_Hoover> I've become a metallurgy hipster. -523) <Phantom_Hoover> You realise the micromanagement it took to make quintopia encrust my silver throne with emeralds rather than a jug? -524) <NihilistDandy> Having only been Catholic in the sense of being baptized that way, I still really like all their silly arcana <NihilistDandy> Judaism has them beat, of course <NihilistDandy> I almost converted just so I could look at my roommate's books -525) <ais523> it's probably the same people who were trying to organise gangs of shoplifters as some sort of complex protest against the government's economic policy -526) <fizzie> I suck at the gravitron, I have survived something like 15 seconds in it at most. -527) <itidus20> what i mean by afk is <itidus20> i can see how dumb it is.. ill make a coffe instead -528) <itidus20> anyway, notational systems are a function of the euclidean plane -529) <ais523> oerjan: I'm not imaginative enough to write truly great slash fiction -530) <oerjan> sllide: @ is an OS made out of only the finest vapour -531) <Phantom_Hoover> Riots in Glasgow would probably be reported as a sudden drop in crime. -532) <monqy> the classic "souls have mass" hypothesis -533) <Phantom_Hoover> What is it with Cardassians, they're all really nice and then they hit you with a rock. -534) <Patashu> it's the pain of the gaps argument <Patashu> no matter how good your robot is at feeling pain <Patashu> it's never close enough -535) <zzo38> Pythagoras was running away and he reached a field of beans, but he didn't want to step on them so he let those guys chasing him to kill him instead. -536) <elliott> What does "life" actually mean, anyway; it seems to mean "this thing that's infinitely greater than all my actual hobbies that I do all the time because I rule" -537) <itidus20> well, you have bested me <zzo38> itidus20: Yes. -538) <itidus20> now theodore seuss is dead... so screw him -539) <zzo38> What is miff-muffered moof? <itidus20> that's a tough question -540) <itidus20> software patents strike again <ais523_> that's got to be at least three times, now <ais523_> are they out yet? -541) <itidus20> like i could ask how many "petals" are there on each of the "flowers" on this coffee mug i just made a drink with <itidus20> but that would be NP hard I think -542) <itidus20> combinatronics seems to be the mathematics chasing buddha's tail <itidus20> yeah.. he was a smart monkey that buddha -543) <elliott> IM FIST IN HEAD AND DONT KNOW TO SLEEP?????? -544) <elliott> I MIGHT BECOME GHOST -545) <Phantom_Hoover> I gave her the Noblesse Oblige rooms. <Phantom_Hoover> She was happy with them even when they were behind 2 locked doors and a floodgate and full of water. -546) <Phantom_Hoover> On further reflection, I think I did manage to miss winter and spring altogether. <Phantom_Hoover> This does explain the goblin siege I had in autumn. -547) <Phantom_Hoover> A possessed soapmaker: the most ridiculous thing? <Phantom_Hoover> OH YES YOU JUST HAD TO CLAIM THE WORKSHOP I SET ASIDE FOR STRAND EXTRACTION YOU BASTARD <Phantom_Hoover> I SWEAR IF ANY OF THAT ADAMANTINE GOES MISSING YOU'RE GETTING SOME HIGH-QUALITY ROOMS -548) <ais523> (Enigma is two games; one is solving Enigma puzzles, the other is working out how to represent things as Enigma puzzles, preferably with the minimal amount of lua and player-hidden information possible) -549) <itidus20> that shit adds up. have you ever dropped a math problem in the toilet and got an answer back? yeah... it adds up -550) <elliott_> I hope in the future people curse me for creating such a shitty protocol. -551) <Taneb> Maybe if you try diplomacy. <Taneb> Pointy steel diplomacy -552) <oklopol> i started running and smoking <oklopol> i love my lungs the way they are so trying to balance them out -553) <Phantom_Hoover> I didn't realise nickel apparently can't be shaped into a screw because of some fundamental feature of dwarven physics. -554) <evincar> elliott_: I don't see a difference between a function taking a function as an argument, and some composition of those functions. -555) <monqy> this reminds me of a time where this guy made up a pretend language that was in his fantasy world and then roleplayed as someone from his fantasy world who used the language and then tried to talk to me about the language -556) <Taneb> I think it's fizzie against everyone atm <Taneb> AND EVERYONE IS WINNING <Taneb> EXCEPT FIZZIE -557) <itidus20> lets not wander around the mulberry bush beating our heads -558) <fizzie> That's the stupidest thing I've heard all morning. (Though I did wake up five minutes ago, so I haven't had a chance to hear very much.) <fizzie> The "Why are you still asleep? I told the cat to wake you up." comment does come pretty close, though. -559) <monqy> mmm these music samples are still so tasteful -560) <monqy> im sampling ultra hip holiday <monqy> hes the boogie woogie santa clause <monqy> switching to oktoberfest <monqy> yes i would love to shop to this -561) <monqy> im hungary too...but cnnot eat until hours -562) <monqy> i am out of all the fame loops <monqy> and the australien soap opera loops <monqy> so much loop / s omcuh -563) <Phantom_Hoover> The only happy dorf has a compassion stat of 0. <Phantom_Hoover> Well, 20, but it amounts to the same. -564) <Vorpal> elliott_, oh they are people known in the ruby community? <elliott_> Vorpal: Uh... you mean Hannah Montana? <Vorpal> elliott_, yeah. And Zed Shaw. Either they are that or they come from popular culture. -565) <Vorpal> ais523, how can TAEB take too long? It is turn based. As long as it isn't taking like several minutes per move it is acceptable! <ais523> Vorpal: it gets boring waiting for it -566) <fungot> elliott__: my fnord into normal life was a painful and difficult process. [...] -567) <fizzie> They're (according to current plans/rumours) going to release a grand total of approximately 1.1 MeeGo devices; the N9, plus the N950 "developers only" phone, which I'm counting as 0.1 because (even though it is a MeeGo device) it's not going to actually be released. -568) <monqy> game where you flip a coin but it's really really big -569) <NihilistDandy> Also Perl, but I don't really consider that a programming language so much as a really heavy implementatino of awk -570) <elliott> we need more films aimed at the lucrative irc nerd demographic -571) <Phantom_Hoover> I keep asking random people for "friendship <thing>" and it's crippling -572) <zzo38> I think Perl is a programming language too. [...] -573) <elliott> Deewiant: How do you go through life without seeing at least one gaping anus, that's what I want to know -574) <Sgeo> Maybe I should try to learn Scala instead of Ruby <elliott> I will boil your veins. <Sgeo> Which is less bad? <elliott> Probably Scala, but I don't want you learning languages. -575) <fizzie> I tend to debase64 with perl -MMIME::Base64 -e 'print decode_base64("...");', because at least PERL stands for "PERL ein't-no ruddy-poo lol-GNU". -576) <Phantom_Hoover> FFS, building a perpetual motion machine should not be this hard. -577) <Phantom_Hoover> Hmm, I really need to institute dwarven birth control. -578) <Phantom_Hoover> Intake flooded with magma. <Phantom_Hoover> Reactor connected. <Phantom_Hoover> Pumps active. <Phantom_Hoover> YES IT'S WORKING -579) <fizzie> "Do a sea monster while whatever." -580) <Patashu> But I mean, why fix it if it ain't broke? Except now it is -581) <Phantom_Hoover> The fact that the elves will be happy with this will hopefully be counteracted by the fact that I plan to drop them into the magma cistern. -582) <Phantom_Hoover> I'm sacrificing the animals, then I'm going to bed. -583) <Phantom_Hoover> Yeah, Bashir, just sit there drinking, rather than diagnosing the carpenter mauled in that tragic bonobo accident. -584) <CakeProphet> monqy: help how do I use lambdabot to send messages to people. [...around half an hour later...] <CakeProphet> @messages <lambdabot> quicksilver said 1y 2m 18d 19h 54m 29s ago: you use @tell -585) <oerjan> theorem prover yada yada halting problem. -586) <Vorpal> elliott, it is typical of you <elliott> Vorpal: so are most things I say -587) <elliott> well, oerjan has a lot of opinions on this, so I'll hand it over to him -588) <fungot> elliott_: it's a machine that looks like you! -589) <elliott_> now that we've cleared that up let us hug fungot = <fungot> elliott_: let's not start that again." -590) <Phantom_Hoover> You mean it'd be Tau Zero but without the spaceship? -591) <Phantom_Hoover> OK, making myself emergency doctor on the advice of IRC. -592) <elliott> help me i am so alone :( <monqy> new computer good enough to simulate real parents -593) <fungot> elliott: ppl should vote clinton because obama is biracial every1 knows that dood, look at him he has been on something lately. -594) <itidus20> indirect addressing is a facile and inebrious kind of instruction which should be whomped away by languages -595) <fungot> elliott: mr president, commissioner, i fully accept that description when it comes to human rights. yes, with an average fat content of chocolate, and we are using double standards! we all know that under present legislation and also in relation to standardization bodies. if i do not want. -596) <fizzie> Isn't "strip nomic" just another word for all dating, though? -597) <ais523> this strikes me as probably better than a singularity, because you can't trust a random AI, but you can probably trust olsner -598) <Phantom_Hoover> THERE WAS A VISIBLE SUPERNOVA AND NOBODY FUCKING TOLD ME??????????????????????????/ -599) <Phantom_Hoover> It is like the Holocaust but with Nazis. -600) <ais523> oh no, I think we've managed to mix three metaphors in a way that actually makes sense -601) <Patashu> dangit I need someone who knows the answers to my problems instantly and is always around for me! <Patashu> I need.....an adult ;_; -602) <Phantom_Hoover> We have no leather. <Phantom_Hoover> Time to use that most venerable of resources, the puppy. -603) <itidus20> according to physics and maths can we theoretically have a box with infinite cookies inside? -604) <Gregor> Phantom_Hoover: Sort of a monadic human centipede. -605) <elliott> When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a monad. -606) <monqy> one time I tried cpp programming <monqy> it was hellish <monqy> maybe I should try again -607) <fungot> CakeProphet: mr president, in the best egyptian judicial traditions has now been put off to friday. but i want my money back'. we know it generally deals with major infrastructure projects which could form part of the emergency package for korea, on christmas eve, in the interests of consumers and the environment of gmos. -608) <oklopol> king is something women are better at than men -609) <Taneb> Just goes to show, the Beatles are more interesting than green vegetables. -610) <elliott> Vorpal: who needs cars when you can walk to latvia -611) [from 2009] <fizzie> That's confusing. I have been indoctrinated to believe W|A, but on the other hand it's hard to unbelieve a book with such a ridiculously impressive name as "Handbook of physical testing of paper, Volume 2". -612) <monqy> in the past few minutes I tried remembering what my dream last night was, but instead remembered I didn't sleep -613) <itidus20> what is nice about a pebble is that you can process it with your brain as a number by simply looking at it -614) <Taneb> I think this has taught us one thing. We can't teach itidus20 lambda calculus by comittee -615) <Sgeo> Can you build the ... why wouldn't you be able to, just and all the computables -616) <shachaf> elliott: GHC bug? Come on, it's the parentheses. <shachaf> The more parentheses you add, the closer it is to LISP, and therefore the more dynamically-typed. -617) <Gregor> You know how the arrow pierces your skin, rearranging and randomizing vital internal structure? <Gregor> Monads are like that, only worse. -618) <Taneb> Mayor says we need to make aluminum items <Phantom_Hoover> Taneb, PH says you need to make lava items. -619) <elliott> Dear god stop staring at me. <monqy> no never <Phantom_Hoover> monqy is always staring at everyone. <monqy> it takes many eyes to do this but I manage <Phantom_Hoover> He is an inspiration to us all. -620) <elliott> Second Life is like... real life, modelled by people who've READ about real life, you know, in books. -621) <fizzie> One reasonable approach for the image->color case could be to take the mean (possibly in the RGB space, it doesn't have the hue discontinuity problem) of the most likely Gaussian distribution to have yielded the image pixels, considering each pixel as an independent sample. <fizzie> Wait, that'd just be the mean. Never mind. -622) <Gregor> Hulu's movie selection is like MST3K without the MST3K characters. -623) <Gregor> Let us discuss the correct procedure for converting LP -> FLAC <fizzie> The correct procedure is: you put the LP into a flatbed scanner, scan it as a Windows .bmp file, and then rename that file to .flac. -624) <tswett> Come to think of it, I've praised you a little too effusively. I'm not *that* pleased. If you'll permit me to compensate slightly... <tswett> elliott: fuck you. <tswett> There. Perfect. Carry on. -625) <myndzi> lol :( -626) <Gregor> But whereas the Zune UI makes one think "I want to kill myself", the Windows CE UI makes one think "I want to kill myself, but first kill my parents as punishment for bringing into this world someone who would one day own a Windows CE device." -627) <hagb4rd> jesus, yes.. he was human <hagb4rd> and that is fantastic <hagb4rd> more than beeing able to speak with fish.. like seaman does -628) <Phantom_Hoover> I mean, any organisation called the Scottish Defence League should be beating up English people, what other point would there be? -629) <oerjan> yes 5 is very infixr -630) <ais523> if all my Facebook friends were to visit a page, it wouldn't make any difference at all -631) <ais523> it's definitely not a statistical fluctuation, they repeated the experiment 15 thousand times to make sure -632) <elliott> The moon is a much better target for colonisation because it would be IRCable. -633) <Phantom_Hoover> OMG <Phantom_Hoover> What if <Phantom_Hoover> we shoot Hitler with neutrinos -634) <Phantom_Hoover> It's like Pygmalion and Galatea but more weeaboo. <Phantom_Hoover> Also lesbian. -635) <monqy> i agree with elliott -636) <monqy> did you know: gravity was inspired by apples -637) <ais523> isn't a neutrino detector just a large vat of washing-up liquid with a bit of machinery attached? -638) <fungot> fizzie: it doesn't *use* raw cgi. to my deep fnord i'm only fnord of the job description. it's badly fnord also. -639) <fizzie> It's just electricity, how dangerous could it be? -640) <fungot> sadhu: it's been said that boole is the crowning jewel perched precariously upon the perfect peak of programmer prowess, casting its limitless limpid light over the loathesome lands of those who scuff and wallow in the dreary dust of digital depravity and unbounded wilful ignorance of the testament of our lord jesus christ into your life. -641) <ais523> elliott: so what are the two issues with xfce? <elliott> they're very unlikely to fuck up Xfce, and it can be made to work basically exactly like gnome two -642) <Phantom_Hoover> Guys no don't fly a Jem Hadar ship into Cardassian space to shoot things I played that mission in FreeSpace and it never works. -643) <itidus20> my old 2d game is named either runch or turbo fight.... and its hard -644) <fizzie> I prefer the N64 controller, it's the only one that has place for my third hand. -645) <zzo38> The fighting game I prefer is the card game Yomi -646) <oerjan> i am sorry to disappoint you, but my musical taste is on the side abba, verdi, and celine dion. i know this may not be popular and that you would have preferred me to be a satanist. -647) <Ngevd> Dammit, Gregor, this is not the time to fall in love -648) <oklopol> but i guess (x + y)^n = (x^2 + 2xy + y^2)(x^2 + 2xy + y^2)...(x^2 + 2xy + y^2) if n is even, (x + y)^n = (x^2 + 2xy + y^2)(x^2 + 2xy + y^2)...(x^2 + 2xy + y^2)(x + y) is as good a fundamental theorem as any -649) <oklopol> so you are doing for compilers what imperative programming did for functional programming -650) <fizzie> Spacegoat is the network-operations-optimized-for-latency-of-minutes-or-hours-due-to-light-speed-limits variant of scapegoat, to be used when you need to check out some code from the Mars colony. <fizzie> (I'm pretty sure we'll have established a Mars colony by the time scapegoat rolls out.) -651) <fizzie> [...] It's like the future was already here (in all its headache-inducing flickery glory) in the mid-1990s, and then it just... went away. -652) <fizzie dictionary> An 'ad hobbitem' fallacy is when you try to undermine someone's credibility by referring to how hairy his/her feets are. -653) [in the context of Open University] <Ngevd> "Unlike other operating systems, Linux operating systems use Linux" -654) <CakeProphet> l;le;ler;le;lr;e;ler;ler;le;lerr;le;le;erle;e;rler;lere;er;lerrelrrerererlanggt -655) <monqy> never ever do bacon floats or i will hunt you down and kill you augh my leg -656) <fungot> Ngevd:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov -657) <Gregor> When my registrar is emailing me that codu.xxx is available, that's a problem. -658) <Phantom__Hoover> Also you steal Berwick from us and then say you don't want it? <Ngevd> You stole it from us first! -659) <monqy> bad people have feelings too <monqy> but they're bad <monqy> so it's okay -660) <fizzie> It's a bit like a regular monowheel, except when you brake too hard, instead of you going around and around inside the wheel, the (1100lb) wheel rolls over you. -661) <shachaf> Real Tar is GNU tar. <shachaf> You just ignore whichever features don't make you feel superior enough. -662) <oerjan> <Patashu> But wait what if I'm using a quantum computer <-- there is "quantum entropy". it's the same except no one understands it. -663) <Patashu> that's trippy. how does such a thing evolve? what biological niche is it filling? we need to film a mockumentary on this -664) <elliott> fizzie: It's like a JIT, if JITs were... strings. -665) (Of Minecraft:) <elliott> So basically I didn't understand what it was at all, I thought maybe you were meant to be like a worm and just sort of wriggle about underground. -666) <Phantom_Hoover> oh god oh god <Phantom_Hoover> what if I become <Phantom_Hoover> attracted <Phantom_Hoover> to birds -667) <Ngevd> "Facekicker" Hird is a member of the Hird family <Phantom_Hoover> Ngevd, world-renowned detective. -668) <HackEgo> 678) <Ngevd> Dammit, Gregor, this is not the time to fall in love <HackEgo> 187) <alise> Gregor: You should never have got her pregnant. <Gregor> what whaaaaaaaaaaaat -669) <elliott> ais523: those suck <elliott> hmm, those are all pretty good -670) <fizzie> It's missing the "bear scat showing a diet of prime numbers" picture. -671) <Phantom_Hoover> You know what annoys me about Deep Space 9. <Phantom_Hoover> It wasn't in deep space. <Phantom_Hoover> It was orbiting Bajor. -672) <fizzie> If you jump a car from a ramp and hit the wall of a building, in midair, you tend to get ejected up and fly to the sky-ceiling, then slowly slide at that height to one corner of the world; then you land, make a complicated spinning-around thing for a while, and then explode. <fizzie> Also probably works in real life? -673) <Phantom_Hoover> I think the worst part of growing up is that it isn't retroactive. -674) <Phantom_Hoover> http://i.imgur.com/dosYw.png <Phantom_Hoover> WELCOME TO FUCKING STEELROMANCED -675) <coppro> clearly darth needs something gray and big and proving the uncountability of the reals -676) <Pavitra> That was me being *nice*. I could have made the request by word of mouth to my My Little Pony toys and it would count. -677) <yrlnry> I personally use while ("Cogito, ergo sum") { ... } because since that is a priori true, it is true in all possible universes, and therefore ensures maximum portability. -678) <ais523> it's not a list of /all/ interesting esolangs, btw; otherwise you can take the first command from the first esolang, the second from the second, the third from the third, etc, then add 1 to all of them <ais523> and you get a new interesting esolang <ais523> diagonal principle… -679) <oklopol> i did applied fisheries research when i was little <oklopol> got some results too but i ate them before i could publish them -680) <oklopol> that's crazy, it almost seems like you have to tell the program how you want it to manipulate the data and not just give it the relevant commands in a random sequence -681) <kmc> COCKS [...] <kmc> truly cocks -682) <elliott> Magnetic butterfly is slower than cat and restarting if you make a mistake is slower than vi is slower than mind-reading. -683) <monqy> where is this going. why is this going. -684) <Vorpal> anyway fungot is the only esolang irc bot I know of that doesn't depend on nethack or a similar helper -685) <fungot> fizzie: these kids today, with their long hair, dope, and silly abbreviations...) and how it works. -686) <Phantom_Hoover> I'd insult you behind your back, but I don't care which side of your back I insult you on. -687) <zzo38> I am just saying something that I think I once saw some idea somewhere, I forget, was it on television? -688) <zzo38> Can you file for univorce if you are unmarried and don't like yourself anymore? -689) <Ngevd> I'm neither Norwegian nor Finnish <Ngevd> I don't fit in your quaint little categories -690) <ais523\unfoog> Vorpal: your ability to randomly make obvious comments in IRC as if they were profound is not a particularly useful one -691) <Phantom_Hoover> Life expectancy now is a function of whether you go berserk or not. -692) <Ngevd> Somehow I managed to read Haskell as Befunge -693) <Sgeo|web> ...Overlapping? -694) <ais523> Vorpal: I was paying too much attention to elliott and not enough to my HP -695) <oerjan> elliott: it occurs to me that `? welcome is atypical: its information is actually true. -696) <Vorpal> oh my god <Vorpal> that is one ugly solution <elliott> beautiful -697) <ais523> Just about all females often feel that exactly why all Hollywood stars common maintain its brightness as Tom in spite of frantic operate routine and large operate pressure from the skin. What do you think that they have got sufficient time to observe all attractiveness strategies and tips that his grandmother utilized to abide by? -698) <Phantom__Hoover> (I'm not really sure what that explains but nor am I sure what I'm explaining, so it cancels out.) -699) <shachaf> VMS Mosaic? <shachaf> I hope that's not Mosaic ported to VMS. <shachaf> Hmm. It's Mosaic ported to VMS. -700) <fungot> elliott: young john soon afterward receives as a visitor a fnord spaniard, fnord de moncada, who has escaped from fnord fnord dissolved in the absolute. -701) <Phantom_Hoover> No you can't fight crime in Glasgow. <Phantom_Hoover> It's like trying to get rid of the space-time continuum. -702) <Ngevd> It's like single player Hackiki in a way(?) <tswett> Ngevd: yes, but with multiple players. -703) <twice11> Yeah, statistics with 2 data points is science. Statistics with one data point is crap. <twice11> You measure a third point if you need an error estimate. -704) <Darth_Cliche> There's British KFC? Kent Fried Chicken? -705) <Vorpal> elliott: well how will you represent "The dog jumped over the lazy dog" then? -706) <Phantom__Hoover> elliott, cars aren't perfectly spherical. -707) <Phantom__Hoover> Minecraft has made me view all trees as ridiculously slender. -708) <ais523> also, why isn't monqy from Hexham? his name sounds like he should be -709) * Sgeo|web wants to see elliott be wrong about something <elliott> Sgeo|web: That literally never happens. <shachaf> Sgeo|web: There you go. A great example. -710) <QuickDirtyOS> Linux is like the most quirky of all Forths, it has its own OS -711) <elliott> ais523: You might want to downgrade to a sock to be safe -712) <elliott> ais523: I pronounce "xor" by punching myself in the face and then "or" -713) <shachaf> `quote themselves <HackEgo> No output. <shachaf> `quote norway <HackEgo> No output. <shachaf> `quote lunch <HackEgo> No output. <shachaf> Useless bot. -714) <ais523> the parser would be even simpler if I didn't try to do type inference in it -715) <shachaf> You should get kmc in this channel. kmc has good quotes. <shachaf> `quote kmc <HackEgo> 686) <kmc> COCKS [...] <kmc> truly cocks <shachaf> Well, in theory. -716) <olsner> characters in tv series should learn to check the timestamp before they get their hopes up... *no chance* this will work at 10 minutes into the episode -717) <CakeProphet> but yeah the caliphates expanded their empire by conquering people and then forcing them to either convert to Islam or die. [...] <oerjan> i thought it was sort of, convert to islam or pay extra taxes, but i guess it varied a lot. -718) * oerjan concludes that unsafeCoerce has no effect on strictness -719) <fungot> Ngevd: again in a fresh memo later be sent you a copy of knitting for assholes -720) <Phantom_Hoover> The reason the cute animals collection includes pictures of intestines is that cute animals have to have intestines. -721) <Sgeo> I guess only gay people fuck? -722) <oklopol> also who it a tome, a small one -723) <oerjan> shachaf: wait, _you_ are in northumberland? <shachaf> No. <oerjan> whew <oerjan> we don't have room for more esolangers there. <shachaf> oerjan: Wait, *you* are in Northumberland? <oerjan> no <shachaf> Whew. <shachaf> We don't have room for more esolangers there. -724) <fizzie> Do you want me to live dangerously and just stick it in the bot without testing it? <elliott> fizzie: Yes. <elliott> There is pretty much no way it won't be amazing. -725) <oklopol> the point of a university is research and training new researchers. the point of the world is to enable this. -726) <copumpkin> it's not even about strictness actually <copumpkin> not strictly about strictness, anyway -727) <CakeProphet> I like category theory because when you get over how damn weird it is it's still weird. -728) <ais523\unfoog> Phantom__Hoover: is the processor hot? <ais523\unfoog> also, does it smell of burnt silicon? [...] <ais523\unfoog> you can figure out if the processor is hot by touching it -729) <oerjan> wolfram armageddon, the genius overlord game -730) <Ngevd> This is not the time for science! <Phantom_Hoover> ALL TIMES ARE TIME FOR SCIENCE -731) <monqy> i cnat eve begin to understand what you meant with that "one" -732) <itidus22> if the halting problem was solved, as a placebo.. would it benefit people? -733) <elliott>.Ah. -734) <oklopol> i don't lie, i tell stories <oklopol> there's no difference <oklopol> *a -735) <itidus21> myndzi\: ok so one of the nastiest puzzles i suppose is... you're on death row.. you don't want to die. -736) <Ngevd> BOXBOT IS TERRIBLE <Ngevd> NOBODY LIKES BOXBOT <Ngevd> He's just a box with arms <monqy> i love boxbot already -737) <kallisti> interestingly enough it takes about as much time for a person to produce cfunge as it does to create a baby. -738) <elliott> right: you didn't find out you were wrong, just right in a way we failed to consider. <elliott> if only every wrong person could be so lucky -739) <Phantom_Hoover> Dinner? At two? <fizzie> It's four here already. See, UTC+2. You need to add a couple of hours. Or was that subtract? I can never get those straight. -740) <kallisti> man, I love pseudo-random decision making <Gregor> kallisti: Man, I base most of my life on pseudo-random decision making. <oklopol> i usually just ask my dick and i then rarely even bother to listen -741) <oerjan> well, i have to assume if i'm going to make any asses -742) <itidus20> if only alonzo church would have anticipated the computer terminal... <zzo38> itidus20: What do you think it would be if he did so? <itidus20> i just plucked his name at random [...] <oerjan> if only the marquis de sade would have anticipated hospital romance novels -743) <oklopol> why not just give the gays their own state so people could finally pray in peace -744) <fungot> fizzie: is a 98% reduction in the waterpark intensity, right, so i'd imagine! -745) <zzo38> Astrological ages don't work. Instead, say what you mean. -746) <Gregor> pikhq: And of course Rick Perry, saying that there's something wrong with a country where gays can serve in the military but we don't elect a douchebag as president. -747) <zzo38> The book "Science Made Stupid" ends with a list of things that might happen in the future (some already have), one of them is a woman president. Some things in the list are reasonable but a few are just funny instead. -748) <elliott> monqy: it's only... ascii porn... the unicode bits stay covered -749) <Phantom__Hoover> WTF is it with people with Irish names and logic? -750) <Phantom_Hoover> The only way you could do better would be to implement Monopoly with chocolate. -751) <Phantom_Hoover> Just because you can't design a reliable Monopoly machine out of chocolate doesn't mean nobody else can. -752) <Phantom_Hoover> Phantom_Hoover OF YOURE. <Phantom_Hoover> Oops. -753) <Phantom_Hoover> Here in Scotland we have a rigorous and well-tested theory of brothels. -754) <elliott> I'm not biased towards humanity over sentient .txt files. -755) <tswett> Hey, I found Gregor on Spokeo. He's a married black male in his late 50s who lives in an apartment worth about $37,000. He did not go to college and works in sales. <tswett> He lives in Detroit. <tswett> I... think we might have found the wrong one. -756) <MDude> A quick look as WIikipedia ways that Wicca is a specific form of paganism related to witchcraft. <MDude> That agrees with what I know from that Scoobie Doo movie with the wiccans in it. -757) <Gregor> elliott: Back in my day, I didn't have to walk with a cane, but I couldn't shake it at kids on my lawn either! -758) <coppro> ... goddamit I'm having a discussion about the literary qualities of a Pokemon game -759) <Phantom_Hoover> (I vehemently oppose the SNP because they want closer ties with Sweden.) -760) <oklopol> in one case, someone is hurting themselves, in the other, they are only hurting (all) norwegians (to death) -761) <zzo38> I have a program to tell you how far away Jupiter is. It is 4.33 units far. -762) <elliott> I hate you. -763) <zzo38> Even the Spanish Inquisition is in this game. <ais523> zzo38: was it unexpected? <zzo38> Kind of... -764) <shachaf> fizzie: What kind of speech recognition do you do? <shachaf> If you only need to recognize famous speeches, like Churchill or something, it should be pretty easy. -765) <Phantom_Hoover> Incest, the enemy of graph theorists everywhere. -766) <oklopol> i think i'll just take the usual route and go do post doc research somewhere far away and never come back and become a drug lord and kill myself -767) <zzo38> When you die in Canada, you die in real life. -768) <oerjan> DeadlyFugu: the kind of aids you get in a mountain cottage -769) <ais523> is there any evidence that Jesus knew the rules of tic-tac-toe? -770) [...] <fizzie> So if someone tells you "you're worth your weight in Ethernet", it's likely they think your worth is less than $2k. -771) <ais523> `delquote 419 * HackEgo has quit (Remote host closed the connection) * EgoBot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) * glogbot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) -772) <fungot> [...] we choose only die fittest people of nigeria [...] -773) <fungot> fizzie: it's just so stupid that ' stty erase h' has more bizarre results. it was, that he was overcome with the vastness, profundity, and fnord -774) <fizzie> [...] "paikankin päällä" sounds just fine -775) <fizzie> oerjan: Hey, what's your country code for telephonistic dialling from the outside world? <oerjan> fizzie: +47 <fizzie> oerjan: Ooh, you're, like, right next to Sweden there. <fizzie> I... guess you are geographically, too. -776) Note that the previous quote is, in fact, correctly spaced. -777) <NihilistDandy> Benchmarks are only a good measure of surprise -778) <zzo38> Yes, it is true; I don't really like PHP either. -779) <monqy> kallisti: by ordered multiset did you mean: list?????? -780) <Phantom_Hoover> I had a dream last night where I got hit by a van but the van had a brain uploader in it and I was uploaded and I angsted because I was stuck spending eternity with singularitarians? -781) <oerjan> fizzie: wait the germans burned lapland? they also burned finnmark. <fizzie> oerjan: It's a bit of what they do. This was the time when we no longer were such good friends any more, and told them to go away. -782) <Phantom_Hoover> oh jesus my mother is trying to ship bear grylls with miranda hart aerio;jghaeirugha -783) <Phantom_Hoover> "Category 4 ("professional") fireworks are for sale only to fireworks professionals. They have no restrictions," <Phantom_Hoover> OK I need to become a pyrotechnician. <ais523> Phantom_Hoover: that's like wanting to become a locksmith <ais523> so that you can legally own lockpicks <Phantom_Hoover> Did I mention when I wanted to become a locksmith? -784) <Vorpal> <ais523> northern ireland is quite a way to drag someone from scotland <-- not really. I just checked in google earth <ais523> Vorpal: but dragging people across water's a bit tricky -785) <oklopol> speaking of math, i watched an episode of numb3rs today <oklopol> the first episode was more like 57471571c5 -786) <olsner> I think I know less about rhotic accents now than I have ever known before -787) <ais523> oh right: Frooxius, you wouldn't happen to live in Hexham, would you? <Frooxius> No, sorry. <ais523> phew <Ngevd> How about Finland? <Frooxius> Why would I live there? <fizzie> That's a *very* good question. <fizzie> Why would anyone? -788) <fungot> elliott: but, there are imps around, the pad. it's hard to remember though your cross-hairs would never settle on an innocent little girl. chokes up now imagine she's white. -789) <Phantom_Hoover> There.... is a box of Gardasil next to the butter in my fridge. <Phantom_Hoover> At least my sandwich will be immune to cervical cancer *and* genital warts, I suppose. -790) <fungot> elliott: to be honest, it doesn't exist in a state of almost perpetual stalemate, and expands to a larger board and more exotic collection of what he refers to as a thermal hull, instead of some kind of clock pun. no, dammit, will this breakfast injure his shrill, bearded, scraggly old men in space. jade's radioactive, omnipotent, space-warping dog named... -791) <itidus21> the possession of diamonds by the bourgeois is more about establishing their bourgeoisness more than wanting a malleable metal <itidus21> oops i forgot i said diamonds instead of gold -792) * Phantom_Hoover moves 0.5 Phantom_Hoover into the Atlantic, and captures fizzie's upper body with 0.5 Phantom_Hoover. <fizzie> Glurk. -793) <shachaf> elliott: Anyway, if you wrote a Haskell book, I would read it and possibly provide classical criticism. <shachaf> That is to say, non-constructive. -794) <fizzie> Two gigabytes is not really much to download. <Gregor> THAT'S LIKE THREE EPISODES OF MY LITTLE PONY -795) <fizzie> [...] and then you just shuffle the integral signs around a bit and hope no mathematicians notice. -796) <kmc> damn i should make a quasiquoter for inline FORTRAN -797) <roper> ioihgfdddf -798) <roper> rephtrase -799) <fizzie> I saw a MythBusters show about that. (Or I guess it maybe was a tree.) -800) <elliott> @more <elliott> @more <elliott> @more <elliott> @more <elliott> @more <elliott> @more <elliott> @more <elliott> :( -801) <kmc> has there been any work towards designing programming languages specifically for stoned people -802) <fizzie> Stupid W|A doesn't even understand "Vatican papal density". (As far as countries go, they've got a quite high one.) -803) <fizzie> Quinary computers replace the cache with a quiche. -804) <itidus21> ok in other words, its a lot easier to reason about 2^43112609-1 apples by using the text "2^43112609-1" than it is to actually produce 2^43112609-1 apples -805) <fizzie> fungot: Yeah, "fungott" would [...] remind people of elliott. <fungot> fizzie: now that could be nice for a simple language can be used -806) <Phantom_Hoover> BF derivatives are a cancer running throughout the fringes of the esolang community, and as the fringes vastly outweigh the core, we're screwed. -807) <olsner> the allocation is done by the "Dynamic" in DRAM <olsner> before that we used SRAM where everything was preallocated in the factory <fizzie> olsner: So what's this SDRAM then? <olsner> fizzie: synchronized, it's for multithreading -808) <olsner> what a world it would be if you could actually *steal* code so that the other project has to rewrite it or infiltrate your project to steal it back -809) <Taneb> I swear my dreams are becoming increasingly rave + computer science oriented
--- a/paste/paste.31451 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,2603 +0,0 @@ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:09:44:38: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:09:53:59: <elliott_> hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:09:54:03: <ais523> hi elliott_ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:09:54:09: <ais523> spammer got past the CAPTCHA -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:09:54:13: <ais523> could you check to make sure it's a human? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:09:54:25: <ais523> (I indef-blocked the account, auto-blocked the IP, deleted the page and blacklisted the domain) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:09:55:43: <ais523> yep -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:09:55:47: <ais523> I just mean I didn't turn it off -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:09:56:42: <elliott_> ais523: looks human to me, except this one is using something that looks like IE7, rather than IE8 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:09:56:47: <ais523> fair enoguh -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:09:56:49: <ais523> (enough -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:09:56:51: <ais523> *enough -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:09:56:56: <ais523> the IP traces to a large Indian ISP -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:09:58:27: <elliott_> ais523: btw, do you know how I could make "Prevent user from sending e-mail" the default? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:09:58:53: <ais523> I don't know, although it wouldn't surprise me i there was a config setting somewhere -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:10:42:34: -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:10:59:26: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:11:01:27: <elliott_> hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:11:04:09: -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:11:05:03: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:11:05:11: <elliott_> hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:11:05:20: <ais523> hi -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:11:05:32: <ais523> yay, I actually managed to ping myself before the connection dropped this time :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:39:00: <ais523> In December 2009, Paul Gogarty apologised in advance for using "unparliamentary language" prior to shouting "fuck you!" at an opposition chief whip.[7] This phrase was not one of those listed explicitly as inappropriate, prompting calls for a review.[9] -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:39:29: <ais523> so was the review about whether "fuck you!" is inappropriate, or about whether it's correct to apologise for using phrases not on the inappropriate phrases list? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:44:29: <elliott_> ais523: hey, when do you think we should take down the sitenotice? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:44:41: <ais523> Vorpal's seen it now, so so has everyone else -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:44:44: <ais523> so may as well take it down -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:44:58: <ais523> his reaction in channel was hilarious -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:45:05: <ais523> I think it was yesterday or the day before -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:46:43: <ais523> elliott_: even if you were clear, I don't think Vorpal would believe you -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:46:53: <ais523> or at least, even if he did, he'd pretend not to for humour value -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:46:56: <elliott_> ais523: That was rather below my threshold for hilarious. :( -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:47:01: <ais523> sorry -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:47:07: <ais523> I thought the discussion about a coup was funny -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:47:13: <ais523> or just the first couple of lines -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:47:21: <ais523> new Mediawiki, hmm and elliott's behind it? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:50:00: <ais523> hmm, so it seems that Visual C++ version 11 doesn't support Windows XP in the binaries it produces -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:50:23: <elliott_> ais523: presumably just "by default" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:50:26: <ais523> yep, that's been around for a while -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:50:42: <ais523> elliott_: it doesn't ship with a libc that runs on windows XP -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:50:49: <ais523> so you'd need to find one from somewhere -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:51:12: <ais523> well, indeed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:51:19: <ais523> (the libc gets statically linked on Windows, usually, it seems) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:52:40: <ais523> what does SFINAE mean? trying to read about C++ is tricky because of all the acronyms -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:52:50: <ais523> (I can ask this safely as I don't pretend to understand more than a smallish subset of C++) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:53:06: <ais523> ah, OK -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:53:19: <ais523> I'm a little surprised it's major enough to have a Wikipedia article about it… -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:54:41: <ais523> I'd have tried Wikipedia first if I expected the article to exist -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:54:43: <ais523> but I didn't -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:54:52: <ais523> and wow, the concept itself is beautifully ridiculous :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:56:14: <ais523> what does 1.19 have that you want? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:12:59:48: <elliott_> ais523: conjecture: Wikipedia's relicensing to CC failed, because not everybody could edit Wikipedia at the time -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:00:13: <ais523> I don't see why that would be relevant -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:00:26: <ais523> I believe they could relicense the content without anyone's permission but the FSF if they really wanted to -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:00:32: <ais523> but they decided to seek permission anyway -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:00:58: <ais523> oh, I see -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:01:06: <ais523> technicalities don't apply in legal documents, though -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:01:33: <ais523> I also like the definition of "incorporate", there -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:01:40: <ais523> because it's so different from the normal legal meaning -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:01:54: <ais523> elliott_: I think I got my reminders before you did -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:02:01: <ais523> and I already happy-thatted yesterday for the Australian version -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:02:31: * ais523 notes that it's possible to verb even relative pronouns -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:03:31: <ais523> oh, you check email actively? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:03:46: <ais523> I just leave Evolution backgrounded and look at it when the new-messages popup comes up -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:03:52: <ais523> that's what I meant by actively -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:03:58: <ais523> you make a decision to check it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:04:04: <ais523> rather than checking it in the background, so to speak -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:05:25: <ais523> err, what? Evolution was installed on here by default -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:05:39: <ais523> admittedly, it needed to be configured to contact all three of my email addresses -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:05:56: <ais523> and I really don't get why people use web browsers to access all sorts of services they aren't designed for -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:06:03: <ais523> gmail's interface is hideous compared to Evolutions -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:06:07: <ais523> *Evolution's -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:06:14: <ais523> (and yes, I have used gmail, although I didn't create the account) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:09:34: <ais523> and I'm not convinced it's possible to build a good interface inside the browser, because the browser is doing its own thing that's optimised for browsing -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:09:41: <ais523> not to mention, GMail doesn't work offline -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:09:53: <ais523> (I think they were trying to come up with some convoluted scheme to fix that, but still…) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:12:36: <elliott_> <ais523> err, what? Evolution was installed on here by default -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:12:44: <elliott_> <ais523> and I really don't get why people use web browsers to access all sorts of services they aren't designed for -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:12:54: <ais523> it is, it notifies by default if you leave it running -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:13:05: <elliott_> ais523: yes, but it also connects via IMAP and creates rubbish IMAP folders and junk -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:13:17: <ais523> and evolution-alarm-notifier (the calendar notifier) runs even if Evolution isn't running, if the calendar is non-empty -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:13:30: <ais523> well I don't have this problem because I'm not using gmail -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:13:50: <elliott_> ais523: yes, you don't; I do -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:14:05: <ais523> hmm, I tend to turn threading off in things that support turning it off -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:14:09: <ais523> I turned it off in my newsreader, for instance -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:14:19: <ais523> so that I don't have to click round between multiple threads to find all the messages that have arrived recently -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:15:02: <ais523> so here's one for you: suppose you need to mark all the messages in your inbox with a particular string in their subject line as unread -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:15:07: <ais523> how do you do that in gmail? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:15:17: <ais523> (note: actual real-world problem I had a while ago) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:15:23: <ais523> elliott_: that's what quoting's for, right? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:15:43: <elliott_> ais523: search for the string, click check box in the top-left, click the second sentence link in "All 20 conversations on this page are selected. Select all conversations that match this search", more -> mark as unread -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:15:46: <ais523> fizzie: right, it does, but they've improved the interface by exposing that option right when you're configuring the account -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:15:54: <elliott_> ais523: you can also use a filter to apply it to all incoming mail (and then apply that filter retroactively) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:15:55: <ais523> elliott_: some messages contain the string not in the subject line -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:16:00: <ais523> and those ones shouldn't be marked as unread -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:16:11: <elliott_> ais523: subject:foo -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:16:19: <ais523> also, this is one-off so filters aren't helpful, and putting the string in the search box also finds messages that don't contain the exact string, but an approximation -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:16:34: <ais523> well, OK -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:16:57: <ais523> it's still a lot more work than setting the search style to "subject" then typing in the string to search on -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:17:00: <fizzie> ais523: That's Tfoo\n;wN in mutt. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:17:09: <elliott_> ais523: not really, I could have used keyboard shortcuts -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:24:32: <elliott_> ais523: anyway, a web browser has what I would consider significant advantages over a traditional desktop application as far as email goes, IMO -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:24:45: <elliott_> ais523: in that it's designed around portrait-scale, reflowable text -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:25:02: <elliott_> ais523: with "light" navigation as part of the content rather than something omnipresent -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:25:14: <ais523> elliott_: hmm… reflowable text has to be a solved problem by now -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:25:35: <ais523> the thing is, people expect emails to have significant line breaks, because they usually do -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:25:45: <elliott_> ais523: well, yes, I'm just saying that as far as a fixed layout of widgets vs. a "document" display of things goes, the latter seems better for email to me -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:25:45: <ais523> so I think many clients choose not to reflow emails -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:26:01: <elliott_> ais523: oh, that's an incidental thing, but yes -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:26:08: <ais523> well, it makes sense to use an HTML renderer to display emails -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:26:11: <ais523> especially HTML emails -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:26:13: <elliott_> ais523: it's more the "type" of document I'm talking about -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:26:21: <ais523> but you do that in the bit of the client that displays the email itself, not the whole thing -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:26:28: <elliott_> ais523: I wasn't talking about rendering engine -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:26:43: <ais523> what were you talking about? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:26:53: <elliott_> ais523: well... what I said -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:27:04: <ais523> well, you mentioned a display -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:27:20: <ais523> as in, which bit of a browser are you saying is useful here? the rendering engine? something else? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:27:38: <ais523> clearly it's only a subset of the browser that matters, as, say, an FTP client is irrelevant -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:28:41: <ais523> and I'm saying that that argument only applies to the bit of the client that shows the email itself -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:28:49: <ais523> which is typically not done with a GUI toolkit, but with an HTML renderer -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:29:11: <ais523> things like a list of messages? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:29:16: <ais523> and a list of accounts? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:29:32: <ais523> I have my reply button on a toolbar, so I can memorize its location -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:29:35: <elliott_> ais523: yes, web browsers are also very good at lists of things, because what's each item in the list of messages? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:29:41: <ais523> (I dislike the Thunderbird style at associating it with a message) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:29:50: <ais523> elliott_: err, no, web browsers are not good at lists of things -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:30:09: <ais523> they're good at links, but links are basically "reacting to clicks", and everything can do that trivially -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:30:22: <ais523> and actually, a list of emails /isn't/ a list of links -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:30:28: <ais523> because you can do things like select then -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:30:29: <ais523> *them -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:35:03: <ais523> the talk page is pretty funny too -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:36:44: <ais523> do celebrities have more or fewer friends on average than people as a whole? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:41:45: <ais523> Vorpal: it's being used as "game not created by a major development company", which is not the same, but is a different literal meaning of the same phrase -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:42:05: <Vorpal> ais523, technically I believe Skyrim is an indie game though. Heh. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:42:45: <ais523> no, your definition is stupid because it doesn't match common usage -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:42:58: <ais523> and the common-usage definition is also entirely reasonable and fits the meaning of its individual words -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:43:01: <Vorpal> ais523, true, that is what it is used for, but then is Trine 2 an indie game? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:43:18: <ais523> I don't know, I've never played it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:43:38: <elliott_> Vorpal: you seem to have missed the part where ais523 explicitly criticised your publisher-based definition -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:44:11: <ais523> elliott_: oh right, I'd forgotten that his scrollback sometimes doesn't even extend one line -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:44:38: <elliott_> <ais523> Vorpal: it's being used as "game not created by a major development company", which is not the same, but is a different literal meaning of the same phrase -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:44:41: <elliott_> <ais523> no, your definition is stupid because it doesn't match common usage -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:44:43: <elliott_> <Vorpal> ais523, true, that is what it is used for, but then is Trine 2 an indie game? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:44:55: <Vorpal> <Vorpal> ais523, technically I believe Skyrim is an indie game though. Heh. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:44:56: <Vorpal> <ais523> Vorpal: it's being used as "game not created by a major development company", which is not the same, but is a different literal meaning of the same phrase -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:45:02: <Vorpal> <Vorpal> ais523, true, that is what it is used for, but then is Trine 2 an indie game? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:45:07: <Vorpal> <ais523> no, your definition is stupid because it doesn't match common usage -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:51:30: <ais523> elliott_: I was going on the meanings of "independent" and "video game" combined -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:51:43: <ais523> as in, I assumed that Vorpal meant "literal" as in "composed out of the meanings of the individual words" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:51:48: <ais523> as it was the sense he seemed to be using it in -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:13:52:24: <Vorpal> <ais523> as in, I assumed that Vorpal meant "literal" as in "composed out of the meanings of the individual words" <-- indeed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:14:37:36: -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:16:00:13: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:16:23:28: <ais523> <Judge Alsup> In the copyright-liability briefs due on March 9, please include analysis of whether or not the copyrightability of the selection, arrangement, and structure of the APIs depend on the underlying programming language being Java as opposed to Python or QBASIC or other non- Java programming language. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:16:23:38: * ais523 wonders what possessed him to ask that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:16:23:43: <ais523> and the selection of languages, fwiw -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:16:47:39: <Friendship> ais523: Today in History: Oracle convinces government that only programs written in or implementing Java are copyrightable. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:16:48:26: <ais523> Friendship: that would be ridiculous :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:16:56:55: <ais523> @tell lambdabot thanks for relaying all these messages for us -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:17:03:21: -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:17:58:35: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:18:48:20: <ais523> it only helps when it gets rid of a pair of parens -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:21:24:40: <ais523> just heard on a TV quiz show: the contestant was asked what Babbage was famous for (multiple choice), and discounted inventing the computer because she thought Apple invented the computer -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-01.txt:21:56:13: <ais523> Friendship is your middle name? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:00:13:04: -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:17:51:28: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:17:53:34: <ais523> hey, look what my supervisor did: https://sites.google.com/site/thegeometryofsynthesis/ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:17:53:49: <ais523> (at least vaguely ontopic) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:17:57:23: <Friendship> ais523: I like how the page starts with a brief description of what the tool is, then its development history, then download information. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:17:59:30: <ais523> hmm, where does it say that? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:17:59:50: <ais523> let me try with JS and cookies on -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:18:00:31: <ais523> hmm, no -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:18:00:42: * ais523 wonders if he/she's somehow missing sarcasm -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:18:01:38: <ais523> ah, OK -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:18:01:49: <ais523> anyway, the website was made entirely by my supervisor -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:18:01:51: <ais523> I mostly just wrote code for it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:18:02:15: <ais523> (try spotting typos in the EULA, if you want some fun; we just put up what the lawyers told us to) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:18:02:25: <ais523> (or alternatively, try out the code) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:18:04:59: <ais523> I am also not inspired by it being made in Google Sites -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:18:21:32: -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:18:26:36: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:19:28:00: -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:19:45:06: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:23:14:29: <elliott> ais523: Did he rename it again>? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:23:15:05: <ais523> elliott: GOS is the name of the compiler, Verity is the name of the language -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:23:15:12: <ais523> and the file extension is .ia -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:23:18:23: <ais523> err, if you /don't/ accept the license, then you can't distribute derivative works of it at all because nothing's licensing it to you -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:23:18:26: <ais523> what do you think of it, anyway? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:23:18:46: <elliott> ais523: I can't distribute them, but if I agreed to the license, I would be prohibited from even making them -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:23:19:03: <ais523> well, OK -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:23:22:11: <ais523> actually, I'd better go home before I miss the last bus -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:23:22:16: <ais523> I got a little preoccupied with Rubicon… -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:23:22:20: <ais523> bye everyone -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-02.txt:23:22:24: -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:16:00:27: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:16:01:09: <ais523> so, to recall a conversation from ages ago, I figured out how to make highlight work together with less and lesspipe -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:16:01:38: <ais523> just write 'highlight -A "$1" 2>/dev/null' in ~/.lessfilter, and chmod it executable -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:16:03:19: <ais523> lesspipe calls ~/.lessfilter, and if it errors out, lesspipe handles the error itself (by falling back to what it would have done anyway), so you don't have to handle lesspipe failing -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:38:22: <ais523> perhaps I should put the gosc stuff in the topic -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:38:55: <ais523> elliott: btw, they're counting views of the license page as downloads of the software, because they don't host it themselves and are using google analytics in an attempt to count downloads indirectly -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:39:22: <elliott> ais523: well, I viewed the license page at least twice for my one download (which was not under the license) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:39:45: <ais523> hmm, you'll probably cancel out me -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:39:54: <ais523> admittedly, I've never downloaded the software from there because I haven't needed to -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:40:06: <ais523> Sgeo: https://sites.google.com/site/thegeometryofsynthesis/ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:40:11: <ais523> admire the beatifully well-designed website -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:42:04: <ais523> Sgeo: it's a compiler from Verity to VHDL -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:42:47: <ais523> right, because we invented Verity for the purpose -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:42:57: <ais523> it's a call-by-name higher-order statically-typed language -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:43:07: <ais523> which is really an Algol variant, but in disguise -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:43:47: <ais523> right, with lambdas -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:44:02: <ais523> elliott: but the example programs are very permissively licensed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:44:39: <elliott> ais523: Did the University grant you permission to license them in that way? If so, why not the rest of the package? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:45:20: <elliott> ais523: How much will it personally inconvenience you if I try and annoy them with this? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:45:32: <ais523> elliott: it's licensed so as to retain the ability to commercialise -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:48:24: <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: Someone gotta pay them so I can use them as a platform for indignancy wrt ais523's compiler's licensing. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:48:51: <Phantom_Hoover> What's ais523's compiler's licensing? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:48:59: <ais523> Phantom_Hoover: it's a crazy EULA -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:49:11: <ais523> I told the lawyers about the obvious contradictions and I fixed them -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:49:18: <ais523> *they fixed them -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:49:20: <ais523> but not the typos -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:49:24: <ais523> it's a licence agreement -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:50:13: <elliott> ais523: (ii) You many make derivative works for the purposes of non-commercial research. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:50:47: <ais523> I still think "LICENCE.rtf" is the best one -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:50:59: <ais523> I asked if I should rename the file, but meh -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:51:07: <ais523> I /did/ turn the executable bit off, though -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:51:37: <ais523> elliott: what you do is you sell it to Xilinx and Altera for a fortune -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:51:41: <ais523> /then/ you opensource it :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:51:55: <ais523> (note: probably wouldn't work in practice) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:52:24: <ais523> feel free; I recommend that you GPLv3 it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:21:52:36: <ais523> (v3 is very important in this context, for reasons that I hope are obvious) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:23:29:47: <ais523> bleh, why doesn't tab-complete work in mkdir for the name of the new directory -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:23:30:11: <oerjan> `addquote <ais523> bleh, why doesn't tab-complete work in mkdir for the name of the new directory -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:23:30:14: <HackEgo> 818) <ais523> bleh, why doesn't tab-complete work in mkdir for the name of the new directory -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-03.txt:23:30:28: <ais523> it was a rhetorical question :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:00:12:54: <ais523> oerjan: two, in fact -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:00:13:16: <ais523> the treadmill on wheels thing is ridiculous :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:00:13:33: <ais523> it took me a while to figure out if it'd go forwards or backwards -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:00:13:51: <ais523> (forwards if the wheels rub against the treadmill belt, backwards if they're connected to the treadmill's rollers) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:00:19:07: -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:05:08:46: <HackEgo> 2011-07-22.txt:20:14:13: <ais523> probably a really obscure method involving libraries -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:05:08:59: <HackEgo> 2009-03-03.txt:16:09:09: <ehird> ais523_: ## is not obscure!! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:05:10:37: <HackEgo> 2011-12-01.txt:21:31:28: <ais523> (on another note, I love the way that the standard way to indicate that you get a reference is to make a different obscure reference to the same thing) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:16:20:43: <elliott> 23:29:47: <ais523> bleh, why doesn't tab-complete work in mkdir for the name of the new directory -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:16:22:08: <elliott> @tell oerjan gosc is the compiler ais523 talks about a lot from idealised ALGOL (with lambdas) to VHDL -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:00:54: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:07:36: <elliott> hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:07:57: <ais523> hi elliott -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:09:03: <elliott> hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:09:20: * ais523 sees no need to continue the pattern -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:09:36: <olsner> hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:21:16: <ais523> oh, hmm -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:21:24: <ais523> I think I fixed the permissions problem in Web of Lies, anyway -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:21:43: <ais523> by soft-dropping permissions, and temporarily undropping them in the offending bit of code -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:22:02: <ais523> it's not /quite/ as secure, but the only bit that soft-drops is the control process, the other two still hard-drop -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:22:45: <ais523> should be secure against non-malicious accidents; it just increases the attack surface somewhat for people trying to exploit suid weboflies, or whatever, and who'd be mad enough to suid it? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:26:08: <elliott> ais523: don't tempt me -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:26:23: <Phantom_Hoover> hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:26:37: <ais523> hi Phantom_Hoover -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:26:40: <ais523> elliott: tempt you into what? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:26:42: <ais523> suiding weboflies? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:28:15: <elliott> ais523: yes -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:32:47: <ais523> what I really need to do is get X working inside it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:33:01: <ais523> perhaps I could trick X into thinking it's root; I wonder what would go wrong then -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:34:00: <ais523> is there any way I can get X to just use the framebuffer for rendering? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:34:04: <elliott> ais523: X tries to talk to the graphics hardware, so... -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:34:25: <elliott> ais523: there's also Xephyr -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:34:56: <ais523> hmm, those both seem reasonable -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:35:02: <elliott> ais523: wait, Xvfb doesn't seem to be KDrive -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:35:11: <elliott> ais523: search your distro for a package -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:35:19: <ais523> one step ahead of you there :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:36:07: <ais523> even better, I can't think of any reasonable reason for xvfb to need root -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:36:14: <ais523> that doesn't mean it won't, ofc -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:37:44: <elliott> ais523: you could VNC into Xvfb or something, anyway :P -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:38:08: <ais523> olsner: it's what Wikipedia recommends -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:38:27: <ais523> it also suggests using a screenshot program inside xvfb to get at the screen -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:40:53: <ais523> ooh, xvfb has a command-line option to memory-map its framebuffer into a file -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:41:04: <ais523> that's exactly what I was doing with the fake framebuffer in weboflies anyway -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:41:07: <elliott> ais523: VNC sounds like less work :P -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:41:14: <ais523> so the two graphics methods should be swappable trivially -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:41:33: <ais523> elliott: using one command-line option to reduce it to a problem I've already solved is more work than VNC? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:42:03: <ais523> elliott: well, the specific problem that VNC would solve -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:42:13: <ais523> not the whole thing, obviously -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:42:26: <elliott> ais523: I mean, I bet the file has a different format, etc. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:42:28: <elliott> ais523: anyway, if this saga doesn't end with you running KDE in it, you've failed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:42:37: <ais523> why KDE specifically? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:43:08: <elliott> ais523: well... it was still more of a hog than Gnome as of a short while ago -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:43:50: <fizzie> ais523: Someone claims that Xorg with the fbdev graphics driver is doable as non-root assuming it can access all the necessary dev nodes: http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2010/09/msg00091.html -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:44:16: <ais523> fizzie: thanks; that's my fallback position if I can't get xvfb to work -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:44:24: <ais523> I assumed it would be -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:44:44: <ais523> (the /dev nodes don't actually exist, but I'm faking them by intercepting system calls involving them, so I can choose permissions arbitrarily -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:45:48: <ais523> elliott: well, it's how I got /dev/fb working -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:45:53: <ais523> it was quite a bit of work -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:46:01: <ais523> fun fact: quite a few games actually run without X, using the framebuffer -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:46:07: <ais523> but you typically get a bunch of graphical glitches -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:46:23: <ais523> I suspect the hard part's actually going to be emulating socketcall, IIRC X uses sockets to work -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:46:29: <elliott> ais523: right, I just meant you wouldn't have to change your code at all -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:47:02: <ais523> and hmm, right, I wouldn't have to change it, apart from loading X somehow -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:47:24: <ais523> I do -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:47:43: <ais523> the framebuffer itself works fine; it's actually the keyboard I have the most trouble with, as I can't figure out what format it's in -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:47:51: <ais523> I was working on a fake mouse at the time -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:48:08: <ais523> elliott: it can, that's what I was going to do if I couldn't get X working as non-root -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:48:22: <ais523> but permissions checks are all over the place in syscalls, it'd take a bunch of work to fake comprehensively -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:48:27: <ais523> and it'd also mean figuring out what process X was -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:48:34: <elliott> ais523: well, there's no problem to keep the checks around -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:49:08: <ais523> I think the sanity checks are probably actually in startx -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:49:30: <ais523> what's the most common $DISPLAY value? :0.0? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:49:55: <ais523> $ sudo ./weboflies ls /dev/input -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:50:00: <ais523> + pty output: mice\x0d\x0a -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:51:02: <ais523> $ sudo ./weboflies Xvfb :1 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:51:12: <ais523> + pty output: _XSERVTransmkdir: ERROR: euid != 0,directory /tmp/.X11-unix will not be created.\x0d\x0a -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:51:19: <ais523> I wonder why it wanted to be root? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:51:37: <ais523> well, apparently so -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:51:43: <ais523> but why would it want to be root to do that? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:51:59: <elliott> ais523: that's the socket, it seems -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:52:06: <ais523> oh, I see -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:52:18: <ais523> that explains why it'd want to be root for /that/ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:52:55: <ais523> yep, there's a lot of "WARNING: Unknown syscall 102" there -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:53:09: <ais523> and then a couple of "unexpected signal 11" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:53:11: <ais523> is that segfault? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:53:18: <ais523> hmm -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:53:19: <elliott> olsner: I don't think ais523 has TCP either -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:53:35: <ais523> olsner: TCP and unix-socket go through the same syscall, which I haven't implemented -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:53:59: <ais523> elliott: I know, I have a text file of syscals -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:53:59: <ais523> *syscalls -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:54:04: <olsner> ais523: oh, I think you need to implement that syscall then :> -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:54:08: <ais523> together with timing properties, and why they have or haven't been implemented -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:54:11: <ais523> olsner: I know -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:54:24: <ais523> the problem is, it's mostly undocumented -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:55:00: <fizzie> ais523: You should be doing this on a BSD, they don't mux all socket stuff through a single syscall. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:55:11: <elliott> ais523: why not just forward socketcall without processing to test it? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:55:18: <ais523> the man page says it's the syscall that implements accept, bind, connect, getpeername, getsockname, getsockopt, listen, recv, recvfrom, recvmsg, send, sendmsg, sendto, setsockopt, shutdown, socket, socketpair -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:55:20: <ais523> but not the format -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:55:32: <ais523> elliott: that's what weboflies does do on unknown syscalls -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:55:38: <ais523> but apparently it makes xvfb segfault -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:55:56: <fizzie> ais523: I've heard the Linux source code has been leaked, maybe you could sneak a peek. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:55:57: <ais523> (actually, the segfault's probably unrelated, it's probably assuming something that isn't actually true) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:56:18: <ais523> fizzie: I have also dived into kernel source quite a bit for figuring out this sort of thing -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:56:24: <ais523> but I can hardly do that in a few minutes while eating dinner -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:56:26: <elliott> <ais523> elliott: that's what weboflies does do on unknown syscalls -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:56:31: <elliott> ais523: err, it clearly doesn't forward 102 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:56:45: <ais523> it warns and then forwards -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:56:53: <ais523> the warning means it's being forwarded without knowing the implications -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:19:59:03: <ais523> I doubt it, it's being printed to stdout of the host process, which isn't part of the anonymous fs at all -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:20:06:44: <ais523> ais523@desert:~/weboflies$ ln -s Xvfb_screen0 /tmp/Xvfb_screen0.xwd -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:20:06:45: <ais523> ais523@desert:~/weboflies$ convert /tmp/Xvfb_screen0.xwd /tmp/t.png -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:20:06:47: <ais523> ais523@desert:~/weboflies$ eog /tmp/t.png -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:20:06:57: <ais523> so Xvfb is definitely working outside weboflies -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:20:08:16: <elliott> ais523: what does t.png look like? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:20:08:36: <ais523> a black screen with an xterm in the top-left corner -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:20:08:50: <ais523> there were meant to be two of them, but I hadn't started a window manager -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:20:08:58: <ais523> so I guess they overlapped exactly -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:19:28: <ais523> Friendship: the spaces are two narrow for me -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:19:33: <ais523> *too -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:19:38: <ais523> Sgeo_: haha, wow -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:22:17: <ais523> a/ha/, Xvfb wants /tmp/X11-unix to exist already -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:22:41: <elliott> ais523: *. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:22:51: <ais523> ? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:22:52: <ais523> er, . -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:22:54: <ais523> I see -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:33:50: <ais523> !c printf("%x %x", ' ', '‹'); -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:34:29: <ais523> !c printf("%d", 0xe2); -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:34:48: <ais523> !c printf("%d", 0213); -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:41:04: <elliott> <ais523> !c printf("%x %x", '', '‹'); -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:41:40: <ais523> 31, I think -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:41:57: <ais523> elliott: someone's got a bunch of binary data they're trying to decote -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:41:59: <ais523> *decode -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:42:06: <ais523> fizzie: underlined for me -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:42:24: <elliott> ais523: ? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:42:33: <ais523> I suspect it's a zipfile that's been run through a bunch of re-encodings between UTF-8, and some 8-bit encoding that isn't latin-1 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:42:35: <ais523> but can't tell for sure -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:43:03: <ais523> the first byte is correct, but the second isn't -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:43:52: <ais523> hey, perhaps it's Windows-12452 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:43:55: <ais523> *Windows-1252 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:44:55: <ais523> nope -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:45:13: <ais523> olsner: it was copy-pasted into a forum post here: http://pnewman.net/shelter/viewtopic.php?p=11249&f=2#p11249 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:45:21: <ais523> I asked the author if they have the original -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:45:25: <ais523> because phpBB is not a good way to send binary files -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:45:47: <ais523> olsner: see why I'm having problems decoding it? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:45:53: <ais523> I think it was just gzipped -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:45:59: <ais523> before it went through the copy-paste -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:46:31: <ais523> well, obviously -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:21:59:35: <ais523> fizzie: I'm guessing that phpBB interpreted it as windows-1252 and converted it to utf-8, except possibly where it was legal utf-8 already -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:22:01:30: <ais523> I guess it should be treated as a literal 8f, then? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:22:02:44: <ais523> hmm -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:22:03:22: <ais523> we need a windows-1252-or-otherwise-literally encoding -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:22:05:00: <ais523> right -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:22:06:08: <ais523> oh dear, I doubt we're going to be able to get iconv expanded to handle this case, either -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:22:06:14: <ais523> it was written by Ulrich Drepper -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:22:08:21: <ais523> As of Encode 2.12 CHECK can also be a code reference which takes the -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:22:08:22: <ais523> ord value of unmapped caharacter as an argument and returns a string -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:22:08:24: <ais523> that represents the fallback character. For instance, -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:22:08:38: <ais523> fizzie: try using sub {@_[0]} as your argument -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:22:10:39: <ais523> no -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:22:10:43: <ais523> but it seems likely to be -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:22:10:52: <ais523> it was originally from a web browser cache -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:22:11:01: <ais523> and it has the right magic number -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:22:11:26: <ais523> oh, huh, that's indeed possible -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:22:11:47: <ais523> yep -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:22:12:41: <ais523> anyway, is this likely to be fixed soon, or shall I go home? I need to go home -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-04.txt:22:16:25: -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:00:47:23: <lambdabot> elliott said 8h 25m 10s ago: gosc is the compiler ais523 talks about a lot from idealised ALGOL (with lambdas) to VHDL -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:14:57:23: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:02:22: <elliott> hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:02:37: <ais523> hi elliott -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:02:47: <ais523> how's (insert project here) getting on? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:03:17: <ais523> and have you been working on anything recently? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:03:39: <ais523> anyway, fun fact about Linux: UNIX sockets don't respect chroots, despite looking like filenames -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:03:43: <ais523> and, hmm, last week or so? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:04:34: <ais523> if you have a socket /tmp/.X11-unix/X0, then you can't have another socket called /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 open at the same time -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:04:42: <ais523> even if they happen to be different tmps due to the processes having different root directories -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:05:03: <ais523> I was trying to figure out htf a process inside weboflies could detect X outside it, apparently that was how -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:05:28: <elliott> ais523: start the X as 99? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:05:47: <ais523> elliott: nah, better, there's a kernel flag, implemented quite recently, to separate network namespaces -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:05:54: <ais523> in fact, I think it makes socketcall work by itself -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:06:14: <ais523> you try to make a TCP connection and get all sorts of beautiful errors because there's no networking-related initialisation at all -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:06:39: <ais523> do weboflies nc localhost 9999, and you get an error message back that it couldn't determine the IP address that localhost referred to -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:06:50: <ais523> because there isn't an /etc/hosts inside weboflies, and it has no other sort of DNS -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:08:07: <ais523> + pty output: telnet: could not resolve google.com/telnet: Servname not supported for ai_socktype\x0d\x0a -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:08:17: <ais523> elliott: no, not yet, haven't looked at Esolang since I came online -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:08:22: <ais523> but that's somewhat amusing -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:08:24: <elliott> ais523: aw, I spoiled the surprise -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:08:46: <ais523> ah, you revesed the archiving -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:09:29: <ais523> we need a Category:Almost as Shameful -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:10:10: <ais523> hmm, I think we should ban low-level stuff that works along the same lines as CPUs worked decades ago -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:10:41: <ais523> because it's perpetuating the myth that computers actually work like that, and leading to worldwide inefficiency as a result -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:10:44: <ais523> WORLDWIDE! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:10:49: <ais523> oh, I meant everywhere, not Esolang -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:11:14: <ais523> this would also imply banning x86, but I don't see the problem :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:11:19: <elliott> ais523: I do my part by fuming inside whenever anyone hails assembly as "right on the bare metal" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:13:03: <ais523> elliott: oh, did you hear about the Linode hack? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:13:06: <elliott> ais523: yep -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:13:27: <ais523> do you have opinions on it? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:13:52: <elliott> ais523: the breach itself, in terms of what was done (just stealing credentials), is uneventful; the security policies it revealed are really bad -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:14:14: <fizzie> ais523: I suggested bitcoin micropayments (0.50 BTC/edit) for the esowiki, in order to make it a target for such activities; currently all the cool guys just ignore it, going after bitcoins. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:14:30: <ais523> elliott: well, they also stole thousands of bitcoins, a bunch of Slashdot people think it was an inside job -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:14:40: <elliott> ais523: the breach itself, I meant as in "the attack" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:14:43: <ais523> fizzie: 0.50 BTC is actually quite a lot -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:14:46: <ais523> elliott: OK -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:15:03: <ais523> it's between $2 and $3, right? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:15:07: <elliott> ais523: "inside job" conspiracies sound right up Slashdot's alley -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:15:18: <ais523> seems a bit much for an edit -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:15:23: <ais523> elliott: subset-of-Slashdot? indeed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:15:44: <ais523> also everything else -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:15:53: <ais523> I wouldn't help maintain the wiki if I had to pay $3 per edit -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:16:09: <elliott> ais523: oh, admins actually /get/ 0.50 BTC per edit -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:16:42: <ais523> from where? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:16:52: <elliott> ais523: other edits, obviously -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:19:32: <elliott> ais523: anyway, the real story is that people would store such large amounts of money on budget-ish VPS providers -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:20:29: <ais523> elliott: actually, they seem to have been acting quite sensibly, all the money stolen was a small proportion of the money that the person actually owned -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:20:51: <ais523> stuff that was being actively traded rather than in storage -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:21:12: <elliott> ais523: well, I hear figures around a month's worth of money and the like -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:21:16: <ais523> which leads me to wonder, how did Bitcoin exchanges get so big that around $200000 is only a tiny proportion of the total amount of money they're handling? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:21:35: <elliott> ais523: drugs, mostly -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:22:07: <ais523> yep, wrt organisations -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:30:08: <ais523> elliott: hmm, I'm suddenly reminded of the way that some commonly used programming language (I can't remember whether it was Perl or Python) treats invalid characters in its input, when re-encoding, by encoding them to invalid characters in its output -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:30:23: <ais523> e.g. converting invalid UTF-8 to invalid UTF-16 in a reversible way -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:33:24: <ais523> "I saved that straight from the cache and the [code] tags should stop any formatting. I'll upload it when I have a chance, but I'm pretty sure it's identical." -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:33:27: <ais523> binary files do not work like that! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:34:04: <ais523> anyway, really crazy idea: is it possible to get a hashlife-like algorithm to work on a random initial state by lazifying the randomness? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:34:51: <ais523> other anyway: I'm annoyed that X seems to segfault inside weboflies but not outside (both Xorg and Xvfb, which appear to be doing the same thing when they segfault) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:35:03: <ais523> how do you request debug symbols for a package in Ubuntu? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:35:13: <ais523> then all I'll have to do is get core dumps working inside weboflies… -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:54:25: <elliott> <ais523> "I saved that straight from the cache and the [code] tags should stop any formatting. I'll upload it when I have a chance, but I'm pretty sure it's identical." -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:54:29: <elliott> ais523: we quoted that yesterday, too -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:55:12: <elliott> <ais523> how do you request debug symbols for a package in Ubuntu? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:15:55:50: <ais523> ah, there's an xserver-xorg-core-dbg -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:22:25: <ais523> I can't even figure out why weboflies would make a program segfault -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:22:48: <ais523> my guess is that it's assuming the existence of a file that doesn't exist and not checking an error condition, but it doesn't happen right after a file-related syscall -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:24:05: <fizzie> ais523: How do you deal with shared-memory blocks? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:24:35: <ais523> mmap-based shared memory? I simply ensure that the scheduler's deterministic -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:24:42: <ais523> on the basis that processes can't access the shared memory while they aren't running -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:24:59: <ais523> this will break if someone spinlocks on shared memory, but who does that? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:25:07: <ais523> (also, it'll break by going into an infinite loop, rather than segfaulting) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:26:18: <ais523> yes, weboflies -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:26:44: <ais523> which is, err, nontrivial to explain -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:26:53: <ais523> (formerly known as the Secret Project, but it's less secret than it used to be) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:27:01: <elliott> <ais523> I can't even figure out why weboflies would make a program segfault -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:27:16: <elliott> ais523: ooh, you should post your weboflies problems on SO, the reactions would be priceless -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:27:20: <ais523> elliott: you /do/ know what happens if you put gdb and weboflies together, right? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:28:10: <ais523> stackoverflow is meant to be a collaborative FAQ building site, right? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:28:15: <ais523> Phantom_Hoover: it's a program regulariser -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:28:24: <ais523> it makes Linux programs run in a repeatable way -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:28:25: <fizzie> ais523: I mean shared memory objects, you know, the sysv IPC style. Those have their own namespace (the 'keys'), and so on. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:28:32: <ais523> fizzie: ah, OK -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:28:37: <ais523> I don't think I've caught anything using them yet -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:28:44: <elliott> <ais523> stackoverflow is meant to be a collaborative FAQ building site, right? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:28:51: <ais523> but I don't see any reason why they couldn't be regularised the same as everything else? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:29:45: <fizzie> ais523: It's just that X has that widespread MIT-SHM extension, I was wondering. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:30:34: <ais523> besides, there's only one process when it goes wrong -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:31:05: <ais523> so I don't think IPC is responsible -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:31:19: <ais523> and if weboflies doesn't have a syscall implemented, it forwards it to the actual kernel -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:32:52: <elliott> hey ais523, can you buy me more RAM? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:33:09: <ais523> what for? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:33:13: <ais523> the answer is probably going to be no anyway -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:33:19: <ais523> but that doesn't stop me being curious -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:34:21: <ais523> that seems statistically likely, I wouldn't expect him to have died unexpectedly -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:37:22: <fizzie> ais523: Anyway, can you get core dumps out of weboflies'd processes? It sounds not impossible for those to be gdb'able, depending on how things go. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:37:37: <ais523> fizzie: that's what I'm wondering at the moment -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:37:56: <ais523> part of the problem is that even if it is dumping, I have no way to tell -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:38:02: <ais523> as it's being dumped on a filesystem that doesnt' exist -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:38:17: <ais523> and I can't do something like sh -c'program; ls' due to a ptrace misfeature -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:38:22: <ais523> that strace has an insane workaround for -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:38:45: <ais523> that I'll probably have to implement some day -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:39:03: <ais523> that reminds me, why /didn't/ I download strace's source, rather than relying on strace strace to determine everything about how it works? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:40:59: <ais523> 3-clause BSD, by the look of it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:41:11: <ais523> so I could even use code from it if necessary -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:43:54: <fizzie> ais523: What was the basic weboflies mechanism, anyway? ptrace with PTRACE_SYSCALL? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:44:00: <ais523> yes -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:44:05: <ais523> exactly the same as strace -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:44:39: <ais523> btw, weboflies works inside strace (but not strace -f, nor does strace work inside weboflies) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:44:46: <ais523> I wonder if /ltrace/ works inside weboflies? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:45:59: <ais523> nope, there's a bunch of "program uses forbidden syscall 26" followed by ltrace complaining about ENOSYS errors -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:16:52:54: <ais523> right, I can figure out the IP pretty easily -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:17:10:07: <ais523> I declare 5 March as International Taneb Day -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:17:16:35: <ais523> the connection was reset, basically -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:18:02:26: <ais523> Sgeo_: it's too low-level an abstraction -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:18:04:42: <ais523> probably just using functions, why would you need continuations for that? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:18:06:59: <Vorpal> ais523, uh, so how will you do the stuff you could do with call/cc instead? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:18:07:09: <ais523> using higher-level abstractions, obviously -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:18:08:24: <Vorpal> ais523, I seen backtracking implemented with call/cc in a very elegant way, not sure what other abstraction in scheme would be suitable. Sure you could add new ones but will you need multiple ones or will whatever replaces call/cc be as flexible? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:20:05:31: <ais523> btw, the GitHub hack is hilarious -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:20:05:53: <ais523> it seems that Rails has a feature that's suspiciously like register_globals -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:20:06:08: <ais523> and GitHub were using it without proper security checks -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:21:52:06: <ais523> Vorpal: you're missing the point of the placeholder -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:21:52:21: <ais523> it's not necessarily "I don't know what it's called", but "other people won't know what it's called" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:21:52:26: <Vorpal> ais523, uh, I was correcting "moneys" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:21:52:33: <ais523> Vorpal: it's a placholder -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:21:52:36: <ais523> *placeholder -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:21:52:39: <ais523> to make the sentence more legible -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:21:52:47: <Vorpal> ais523, so "currency units (septims)" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:21:57:33: <ais523> what is a .plan? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:00:22: <ais523> zzo38: /all/ the constellations in the ecliptic, there's an astrological sign not named after that constellation -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:00:27: <ais523> at least 11 of them, in fact -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:00:54: <zzo38> ais523: Maybe I should rephrase the question, it isn't very good -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:02:06: <zzo38> ais523: Do you know a better way to rephrase the question? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:02:46: <ais523> "which constellation on the ecliptic does not have an astrological sign named after it?" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:03:22: <zzo38> ais523: Yes, that is better. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:03:38: <Phantom_Hoover> <Vorpal> ais523, so "currency units (septims)" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:04:21: <ais523> [1] probably not, there are probably minor constellations on the ecliptic that don't have names; [2] no -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:05:12: <zzo38> ais523: I think all constellations have names because the IAU defined all areas of the celestial sphere as belonging to one of 88 Latin constellations. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:28:26: <ais523> they're just x̂, ŷ, ẑ in an xyzh coordinate system, aren't they? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:28:38: <ais523> also, my IRC client renders those combined characters pretty badly -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:28:47: <Vorpal> ais523, uh is that how you write unit vectors? x with a ^ on top? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:29:05: <ais523> it's what's taught in school in the UK -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:29:21: <ais523> ^ on top = unit vector, regardless of whether it's in an axis direction or not -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:31:10: <ais523> fizzie: oh, you're right -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:31:24: <ais523> it is î, ĵ, k̂ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:31:27: <ais523> not x/y/z -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:36:40: <ais523> Vorpal: the two are probably connected, if you think about it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:37:10: <Vorpal> ais523, hm? the two questions I raised? Or the two usages of the same symbol? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:37:43: <ais523> Vorpal: writing the same thing different ways, and same symbol used for different things -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:37:52: <ais523> you have to invent new notations on the fly to avoid clashes -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:38:56: <Vorpal> ais523, so you are saying 5 different persons needed to come up with a notation for vectors? That is a lot of independent research around the same time finding the same concept then -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:39:45: <ais523> it's bad enough, in my field, that for the same notion, some people are using ⩽ for the same thing that other people are using ⩾ for -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:40:05: <ais523> Vorpal: and I'm saying that notation that avoids clashes for one person, will have clashes for someone else -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:40:14: <ais523> people who use vectors almost exclusively aren't going to want to write in arrows all the time -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:40:29: <ais523> but people who use both vectors and other things may need them to avoid clashes -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:40:52: <Vorpal> <ais523> it's bad enough, in my field, that for the same notion, some people are using ⩽ for the same thing that other people are using ⩾ for <-- wow -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:41:04: <Vorpal> <ais523> Vorpal: and I'm saying that notation that avoids clashes for one person, will have clashes for someone else <-- ah, right -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:42:28: <ais523> actually, might have been ≤ and ≥, I can't remember -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:43:08: <Vorpal> ais523, isn't ≤ just a different way to write ⩽? Different stylizing I mean -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:43:15: <ais523> not always, but yes sometimes -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:43:29: <ais523> why do you think they have different Unicode codepoints? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:43:50: <Vorpal> ais523, good point -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:45:01: <ais523> it's got to be either l or h, I think -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:45:55: <Vorpal> ais523, btw you said xyzh for homogenus coordinate above, it is just that I seem to remember it being xyzw in some contexts (such as opengl)? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:46:21: <ais523> opengl has sets of four arbitrary letters that it uses for coordinates without knowing what they mean -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:46:26: <ais523> wait, CUDA does -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:46:40: <ais523> actually, probably it's /actually/ GLSL -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:46:45: <ais523> I know too many GPU-related frameworks -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:46:53: <ais523> so you can address a vector as xyzw or as rgba, for instance -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:47:11: <ais523> there are a few other schemes, they had to use weird letters sometimes to avoid clashes -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-05.txt:22:47:25: <Vorpal> ais523, um, opengl accpets xyzw, rgba, 0123, <something I forgot related to texture coordinates>A -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:00:06:00: -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:14:11:39: <elliott> 18:08:24: <Vorpal> ais523, I seen backtracking implemented with call/cc in a very elegant way, not sure what other abstraction in scheme would be suitable. Sure you could add new ones but will you need multiple ones or will whatever replaces call/cc be as flexible? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:20:09:20: <elliott> I also have ais523 on my side, so ha. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:20:41:17: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:20:42:40: <elliott> hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:20:43:30: <ais523> hi -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:34:30: <elliott> Hey, where'd ais523 come from? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:34:36: <elliott> ais523: Did you sneak in? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:34:46: <ais523> I've been here for ages, you even said hi to me -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:35:15: <elliott> ais523: WELL HI AGAIN. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:35:21: <ais523> hi! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:35:53: <elliott> ais523: DID YOU KNOW they're changing the diffs even more massively than previously thought? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:36:06: <ais523> no -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:36:17: <ais523> is that from a recently created article? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:37:55: <ais523> that's a PNG, not a PDF -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:39:42: <ais523> meh, I am not emotionally involved in this change -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:40:37: <ais523> oh, you don't like it? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:40:50: <ais523> or you just want other people to not like it so you can feel superior? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:42:42: <ais523> that's because most website design changes suck -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:42:52: <ais523> nobody complained when acehack.eu improved its design -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:43:53: <ais523> elliott: I don't think it does, kerio eventually put an sshd on port 23 in some sort of point -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:44:09: <ais523> yep, and there's still an sshd there -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:44:31: <ais523> he means he put sshd on 23 so that nobody could claim that they could use telnet but not ssh -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:44:43: <ais523> due to firewalls, etc -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:45:10: <ais523> yes, indeed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:45:17: <ais523> Windows XP/Vista, for instance -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:48:21: <ais523> elliott: they come with telnet by default, ssh you have to install -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:48:30: <ais523> and you might not be able to install new software -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:49:06: <ais523> hmm, but they suck for playing roguelikes on -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-06.txt:23:59:49: <Vorpal> <ais523> elliott: they come with telnet by default, ssh you have to install <-- iirc windows 7 doesn't come with telnet by default either -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:00:02:53: <ais523> Vorpal: there's a reason I said XP and Vista! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:00:07:22: <ais523> zzo38: how do you design a CPU architecture to prevent DRM? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:00:07:32: <ais523> actually, anti-malware CPU features normally make DRM easier, rather than harder -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:00:08:50: <zzo38> ais523: It is not the CPU feature which I intend to change, but the way the CPU is connected to the other components. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:00:10:43: <zzo38> ais523: And the BIOS design, too. (For example, only the BIOS can access the hard drive and optical drive.) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:00:35:02: <ais523> elliott: FLAC is lossless, right? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:00:35:15: <ais523> by the way, did you point out that data's lost turning sound waves into a WAV? (and did anyone else?) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:00:35:26: <ais523> /real/ music purists hire an orchestra to perform for them -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:00:37:35: <elliott> ais523: Yes, FLAC is lossless. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:01:57:51: <ais523> observation: webcomics often make the "next" link on the most recent comic a link to the top of the page -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:01:58:12: <ais523> theory: because it makes something interesting happen so you know you clicked the link, yet it leaves you on the same page so you know there aren't any more -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:01:58:17: <ais523> question: why not just gray it out? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:01:59:16: <elliott> ais523: answer: styling consistency, ease of coding -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:01:59:52: <ais523> right, you'd have to have a div that acted like an a -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:00:01: <ais523> hmm, couldn't you make it an a element but just not hyperlink it anywhere? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:00:05: <ais523> href is optional on a -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:01:06: <ais523> well, we've already established we're overriding the color -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:01:43: <ais523> hmm, :visited can only override color nowadays, but :hover can override arbitrary properties (I've seen a site that makes links init-caps when you hover them, and lowercase otherwise) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:02:04: <ais523> in that case, couldn't you do a pure-CSS analytics thing that figured out where the person was putting their mouse? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:02:18: <elliott> ais523: probably, but what would it give you? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:02:23: <ais523> elliott: not any more, there were people using :visited to get information about their visitor's previous sites -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:02:41: <ais523> ah, OK -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:02:52: <ais523> so it's only properties that don't change metrics, I guess -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:10:11: <elliott> ais523: how's Feather? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:10:24: * ais523 /clear -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:11:05: <elliott> ais523: how's the @ implementation of feather? :P -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:11:30: <elliott> Friendship: It's implemented, just waiting on ais523 for Feather. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:13:52: <elliott> ais523: wow, Esperanza had over 5000 subpages? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:14:01: * elliott likes to just ask ais523 random questions about Wikipedia. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:14:45: <ais523> admittedly, that did surprise me when you said it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:14:49: <ais523> Esperanza really really got out of hand -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:15:00: <ais523> *Esperanza -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:15:32: <ais523> number of edits to esperanza pages before they were deleted -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:15:36: <ais523> probably -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:19:25: <ais523> elliott: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Esperanza is a great but rather long read -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:19:30: <ais523> at least the nomination message -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:20:36: <ais523> the ironic thing is, I'm not sure that an oligarchy is a worse way to run a wiki than the technique used for Wikipedia as a whole -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:21:31: <elliott> ais523: I read the start of that ages ago -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:22:03: <ais523> well, it was pretty insular -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:23:22: <ais523> it was basically splitting the community into esperanzans and non-esperanzans -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:25:50: <ais523> the DRV was hilarious, it was about whether the history should be deleted or not -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:36:11: <elliott> ais523: hey, how do you use IPv4 multicast? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:36:35: <ais523> I don't know, and am not convinced anyone actually implements it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:38:13: <ais523> perhaps Wikipedia will know? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:43:46: <elliott> ais523: I read the Wikipedia article but it was long and boring -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:44:08: <ais523> fair enough -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:44:34: <ais523> calamari: for a literal "at any one time" that tracks realtime, TMMDLPTOELPAITAFNFAL -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:44:37: <ais523> (I /think/ that's the name) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:44:51: <ais523> gah, it isn't -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:45:06: <ais523> http://esolangs.org/wiki/TMMLPTEALPAITAFNFAL -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:45:19: <ais523> I was /so/ close -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:45:47: <ais523> added a D where there shouldn't be one, added an O where there shouldn't be one, missed an A -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:46:03: <ais523> I think this is an acceptable amount of misrememberance of such a ridiculous name -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:47:21: <calamari> ais523: definitely, thanks -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:47:47: <ais523> calamari: oh, for a language that works like /that/, http://esolangs.org/wiki/Taxi, but it's not quite what you're describing -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:50:40: <ais523> elliott: wierd is BF-like and 2D, IIRC -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:50:58: <ais523> you're thinking of Whirl, but that's pretty much just an encoding for a BF-like language in terms of 0 and 1 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:54:09: <elliott> ais523: hey, is there any way to preview some edits to a page without all the editing tools around it? (MediaWiki) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:54:30: <ais523> elliott: no built-in way, I think -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:54:39: <ais523> you could probably rig something up with JavaScript -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:56:39: <calamari> ais523: yep whirl seems the closest.. not a very interesting implementation, but basically it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:02:57:01: <ais523> the problem with whirl is that there's no penalty for changing -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:05:54:45: <elliott> ais523: have you ever created an esolang that destroyed the world -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:05:55:40: <ais523> elliott: I don't think so -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:05:55:47: <ais523> do you think the world still exists? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:05:56:31: <shachaf> ais523: Why does elliott hate me? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:05:56:51: <ais523> shachaf: you're insufficiently purely functional -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:05:57:23: <elliott> ais523: Well, the International Earth-Destruction Advisory Board lists the current geocide count at 1, so I'm forced to conclude that the world has been destroyed at least once. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:05:57:37: <ais523> Sgeo_: it has first-class functions -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:05:58:09: <ais523> not sure, you could check Category:2008 for mine -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:05:58:10: <ais523> probably -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:05:58:38: <elliott> ais523: "Probably"? You don't have that many esolangs. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:05:58:59: <shachaf> Little known fact: ais523 is the pseudonym of famous esolang inventor ais524. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:05:59:03: <ais523> Sgeo_: no, only all points after it was originally invented -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:05:59:26: <elliott> ais523: How's Feather? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:05:59:42: <ais523> elliott: I haven't worked on it for ages -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:05:59:44: <ais523> and don't plan to in the near future -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:06:42:48: <ais523> elliott: hey, you edited Burn, this means you need to figure out how it works -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:06:45:12: <ais523> night! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:06:45:18: <ais523> and I know I only ever wrote one -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:08:35:23: -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:09:55:48: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:09:58:39: <ais523> btw, I disagree with the topic, in that I believe a language can be sub-TC but still useful -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:04:32: <ais523> useful means it has a use -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:04:45: <ais523> e.g. +. BF is inferior in pretty much every way to, say, uuencoded text -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:04:58: <ais523> which means that it's not that useful -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:14:44: <ais523> shachaf: I think it's a push-down automaton, and TC if you're allowed to use files -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:15:33: <ais523> (push-down automaton can be done using register auto variables in a recursive function which contains no non-register auto variables or non-register parameters; because you can't take a pointer to them, there's nothing preventing you having an infinite number of stack frames) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:15:34: <shachaf> ais523: There's still a maximum path length, isn't there? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:15:44: <ais523> you can store infinite data in one file -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:16:15: <ais523> yep -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:16:21: <ais523> or just absolute seeks to 0 each time -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:16:33: <ais523> hmm, not sure about that one, actually -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:16:40: <ais523> might be worth creating a simple esolang to test that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:17:22: <ais523> let's make it a BF derivative to annoy Phantom_Hoover -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:17:34: <fizzie> ais523: I don't think anyone really "agrees" with the topic; that's why it is the topic. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:17:36: <ais523> let's see… identical to BF, apart from instead of moving one space left, < moves to the start of the tape -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:17:59: <ais523> itidus20: have you ever tried to write esoprograms? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:18:03: <ais523> not languages, programs in them -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:20:25: <ais523> yep -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:20:36: <ais523> anyway, I find esoprogramming more useful for learning about esolangs than esolang development -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:21:54: <ais523> I have new insights less often than I used to -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:22:00: <ais523> but it sill happens occasionally -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:22:58: <ais523> I think back-to-start-< BF is TC, actually; you can store two counters in unary on the tape with 1s, separated by a 0, and increment, decrement, and zero-test them independently -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:24:08: <ais523> *still -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:26:16: <ais523> that's quite ambitious -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:26:21: <ais523> are you sure you think in a language at all, though -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:26:32: <ais523> I'm pretty certain I don't think in English -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:26:38: <ais523> I can convert my thoughts into English, e.g. to type them -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:26:57: <ais523> but occasionally I'll start writing a sentence and then realise I don't know all the words in it in English, and get stuck -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:27:22: <fizzie> ais523: How do you decrement the counter? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:27:43: <ais523> [>]+>-[>]- for the first counter -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:27:49: <ais523> [>]>[>]- for the second counter -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:28:02: <ais523> (this is starting from the first cell, obviously) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:28:12: <ais523> err -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:28:17: <ais523> no, that makes no sense -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:28:38: <ais523> I'm tired -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:28:55: <fizzie> ais523: When you've [>]'d to the separating zero, it sounds like it'd be slightly too late to decrement any more. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:28:56: <ais523> fizzie: I guess you need three cuonters -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:29:11: <ais523> and you always increment at the end and decrement at the start -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:29:49: <ais523> then, you have (increment first+decrement second), (increment second+decrement third), (increment third) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:29:55: <ais523> which gives you complete control over the second and third counters -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:30:03: <ais523> and the first is just junk -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:30:54: <ais523> and it still isn't a big seller -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:38:52: <ais523> hey, anyone here know how you write a literal hyphen in math mode in LaTeX? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:38:56: <ais523> or even a literal n-dash would be good -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:39:01: <ais523> neither \- nor -- works -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:40:34: <ais523> I want it inside a mathsf, really -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:40:41: <ais523> textsf, sadly, is not a text-mode version of mathsf -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:41:04: <ais523> and all the predecessor papers have been naughty and used mathsf for things that are supposed to be interpreted as a single word, not a long multiplication -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:42:22: <ais523> oh wow, I found it with a search, it's nontrivial -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:43:24: <ais523> you have to define an escaped-hyphen thing yourself -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:43:26: <ais523> there we go -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:10:43:43: <ais523> http://www.logic.at/staff/salzer/etc/mhyphen/ recommends \mathchardef\mhyphen="2D (and it seems to work) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:11:54:18: -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:17:59:26: <elliott_> 10:17:34: <fizzie> ais523: I don't think anyone really "agrees" with the topic; that's why it is the topic. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:18:01:10: <elliott_> 10:20:25: <ais523> yep -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-07.txt:18:01:16: <elliott_> trying to fathom how ais523 said yes to a statement this meaningless -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:31:53: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:32:06: <elliott_> hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:32:15: <ais523> hi elliott_ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:32:23: <ais523> and what are you doing up at 6:30am? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:34:31: <ais523> elliott_: I doubt I'm doing the same thing as you -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:34:42: <ais523> note that I /joined/ at 6:30am, rather than being here all night as usual -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:34:44: <ais523> also, I'm at work -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:35:11: <elliott_> ais523: you're typing on IRC -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:38:03: <ais523> meanwhile, has anyone thought about Underload with /just/ () and lambdas? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:43:06: <ais523> oerjan: you can desugar lambdas into Underload code, right? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:43:18: <oerjan> ais523: yes, i wrote a section on that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:43:30: <ais523> so, you can express everything but () in terms of lambdas -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:43:48: <ais523> actually, I also noticed independently that lambdas could be desugared into Underload -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:44:03: <ais523> but my syntax is x/(y/((x)(y))) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:44:24: <ais523> making it postfix is more consistent, but harder to read ;) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:44:34: <oerjan> ais523: actually () = [-] in my lambda syntax -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:44:50: <ais523> yep, I know -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:45:04: <ais523> I guess most consistent of all would be (code)(variable)command -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:45:08: <ais523> but that would be almost completely unreadable -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:46:21: <oerjan> ais523: oh wait no, [-] = -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:46:40: <ais523> not in my case either -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:46:47: <ais523> i.e. x/(x) is equivalent to ^ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:46:53: <ais523> (and (x/(x)) is equivalent to (^)) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:06:49:13: <ais523> the null string would be x/((x)) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:07:18:51: <elliott_> ais523: Should I sleep? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:07:19:01: <ais523> elliott_: I think so :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:07:19:47: <elliott_> ais523: You're just saying that because I spammed the channel with laughter. :( -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:07:20:16: <ais523> inded -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:07:20:18: <ais523> *indeed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:07:20:22: <ais523> it's a sign you're tired -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:07:21:08: <elliott_> ais523: No way, I spam the channel literally all the time as long as oerjan hasn't spoken in the last fifteen minutes or so. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:07:29:26: <ais523> I find walking out in the morning sunlight helps a lot -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:07:29:37: <ais523> I'll typically go for a 1-2 hour walk at 6am or so if I'm awake -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:07:29:45: <ais523> although this time I took the bus into work instead -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:07:35:16: <elliott_> ok im hold vote pikhq_ Sgeo_ ais523 oerjan zzo38 shachaf -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:07:36:48: <ais523> elliott_: yes -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:07:37:15: <ais523> elliott_: and my experience when I have a similar sleep cycle is, that it can't be fixed, but it can be temporarily stablised if you need to do so for some reason -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:07:37:37: <ais523> I can stabilise mine with two days' setup, for about three days at a time, until I end up feeling really tired -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:07:41:30: <elliott_> ais523: shachaf's vote plees -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:07:41:47: <ais523> shachaf: should -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:07:41:58: <shachaf> ais523: Tell elliott_ I'm no moralist. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:07:42:06: <ais523> elliott_: shachaf says yes ;) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:07:43:15: <ais523> 7-8am is actually a common sort of time for me to go to sleep -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:07:43:28: <ais523> and it refreshes me better than sleeping at most other times of day -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:07:43:39: <ais523> even if/though it's probably dark when I wake up -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:07:44:04: <ais523> hmm, it probably will be light when you wake up, though; I predict you wake up at around 4-5pm -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:08:12:59: <ais523> zzo38: are you good enough at astrology to answer the question of when someone should go to sleep with it? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:08:13:23: <zzo38> ais523: I think so. But I would require geographical coordinates to do so. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:08:13:40: <ais523> zzo38: Hexham, Northumberland -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:08:14:13: <ais523> 54.971N, 2.101W -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:08:14:14: <ais523> I just looked it up -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:08:18:40: <ais523> hmm, does this mean that everyone in hexham should be awake right now? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:08:21:39: <ais523> fair enough -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:08:37:56: <ais523> the one opposite the sun, but I'm not sure what that's called -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:08:47:08: <ais523> indeed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:08:53:46: <ais523> possibly, but back then, I think it was a plausible theory to conclude that planets just did that sometimes -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:08:54:35: <zzo38> ais523: But shouldn't they try to think of the question, why would they sometimes do that? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:08:55:13: <ais523> there were loads of things people didn't know back then -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:08:55:20: <ais523> still are now, but there were more then -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:08:57:09: <zzo38> ais523: But still, even if you don't know, if you know of retrograde motion, it would seem a reasonable question to ask why they are sometimes retrograde. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:09:18:50: <fizzie> ais523: I was under the impression that retrograde motion was solved using those epicycles. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:09:19:05: <ais523> oh, right, indeed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:09:19:13: <ais523> the problem with epicycles being that they're orbit-complete -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:09:24:50: <oerjan> ais523: by orbit-complete, do you mean that if you heap enough of them on, you can get _any_ conceivable orbit? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:10:12:50: -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:11:39:48: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:11:51:28: <ais523> hmm, tdwtf sidebar is great, they just taught me that the inverse femtobarn (fb^-1) is a unit that's actually used occasionally for non-ironic purposes -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:12:17:58: -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:12:28:54: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:14:42:53: -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:16:07:14: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:16:34:17: <ais523> hey Phantom_Hoover, I created a BF derivative yesterday -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:16:34:24: <ais523> although it was in the context of seeing if a certain set of operations was TC -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:16:34:37: <ais523> it's BF, except that < rewinds to the first element on the tape rather than moving one square -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:17:35:18: <elliott> 07:44:04: <ais523> hmm, it probably will be light when you wake up, though; I predict you wake up at around 4-5pm -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:17:35:27: <elliott> ais523: 4:30 pm or so, so yep -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:17:37:32: <elliott> ais523: yay, another legitimate user passed the captcha -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:17:37:45: <elliott> ais523: which means legitimate users are now tied with spammers for passing the registration captchas -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:17:38:56: <elliott> ais523: why is Ytommyro93i not in http://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:Log/newusers? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:17:54:52: <ais523> elliott: did you merge them with deleted spam user? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:17:55:45: <elliott> ais523: no -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:17:55:51: <ais523> also, are you feeling good/bad about when you woke up? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:05:20: <ais523> btw, anyone know why Slashdot sometimes interprets <i> as <blockquote>? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:08:22: <ais523> I would laugh so much if that was the reason -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:08:31: <ais523> *that were -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:08:37: <ais523> because apparently being tired makes me pedantic -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:11:13: <ais523> I'm wondering if they used to italicise quotes by default -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:11:25: <ais523> then decided to do an s/<i>/<blockquote>/g on their database -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:11:37: <ais523> to make them blockquotes instead -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:11:47: <ais523> ISTR that too -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:11:58: <ais523> and apparently they did it even in the middle of a sentence -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:15:55: <ais523> I don't wrap manually -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:16:00: <ais523> except when my browser does it for me -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:16:05: * ais523 glares at SunOS Mozilla -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:17:15: <ais523> because it was a choice of SunOS and Windows and I was trying to run POSIXy stuff -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:17:19: <ais523> (including but not limited to C-INTERCAL) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:17:41: * ais523 suspects that this answer is less stupid than elliott might have been discussing -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:18:01: <ais523> wait, is there seriously a major push to name it something other than [[Abortion]]? or is this about subarticles? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:18:16: <elliott> ais523: "The Arbitration Committee has requested a binding, structured community discussion on the article titles "Support for the legalization of abortion" and "Opposition to the legalization of abortion"." -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:18:39: <ais523> so typical of Wikipedia -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:18:46: <ais523> also, hmm at [[absurd brainfuck]] -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:18:46: <elliott> ais523: prediction: half the people want "Support for the continued illegality of abortion" and "Opposition to the continued illegality of abortion" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:18:50: <ais523> does that article even make sense at all? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:18:55: <ais523> http://esolangs.org/wiki/absurd_brainfuck -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:19:54: <ais523> I mean, OK, TwoDucks is uncomputable, but it has nicely and precisely defined semantics, even if they're unimplementable -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:20:00: <ais523> Absurd BF doesn't mean anything -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:20:35: <ais523> oh, right -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:20:47: <ais523> I should really put a caps redirect in my autolinker, but I can't be bothered -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:21:14: <ais523> (there's an URL construction scheme that goes to the article verbatim if it exists, the name in various other cases if it doesn't, and the search page if none of those do) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:21:24: <ais523> (it's intended for use by the Go button) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:25:02: -!- ais523 has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:25:49: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:25:54: <ais523> <ais523> you mean magnifying glass, not hourglass, right? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:35:13: <ais523> it's more similar to "wikify" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:35:24: <ais523> but there's a content change too (if a trivial correction) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:41:24: <ais523> it might almost be a good idea if it made some sort of sense -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:41:31: <ais523> but it doesn't -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:44:55: <elliott> ais523: realisation: I think I took down the sitenotice ~1 day before cpressey visited the wiki for the first time in months :D -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:45:17: <ais523> oerjan: Haskell has a reverse state monad? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:45:23: <ais523> I can, umm, sort of see how that would work -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:45:29: <ais523> but not think of any applications for it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:46:41: <ais523> bleh, mindfuck is a different thing from brainfuck and minscrew? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:47:57: <ais523> *mindscrew -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:48:44: <ais523> <Andrew> I just googled “state monad simple example” and this link cropped up. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:52:48: <elliott> ais523: wait, presumably the reason that user isn't in the creation log is because they /already existed/ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:18:52:58: <ais523> that's a plausible enough explanation -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:12:16: <ais523> meanwhile, Slashdot are busy arguing about whether the recent claim someone's made to have produced a 230% efficient LED are sane or not -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:12:49: <ais523> the argument is that actually it's an electrically-powered heat pump, that converts ambient heat to light, and more such heat than the electrical input -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:13:02: <ais523> quite a few commentors are suggesting connecting the thing to a solar panel to see what happens… -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:13:43: <ais523> indeed, but that's doable with modern technology, I think -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:13:51: <ais523> oerjan: no, it needs an energy source -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:14:02: <ais523> heat pumps create a temperature difference and consume energy to do so -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:14:18: <ais523> now, there is an energy source (the electricity), but it's less than the amount of heat pumped… -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:15:30: <ais523> elliott: you know what you should /actually/ do instead, right? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:20:17: <ais523> oh, btw, I had an awesome esolang idea in a dream weeks ago, and now can't remember most of it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:20:30: <ais523> (note that as I had it in a dream, it may not follow the rules of logic, or fail to make any sense for other reasons) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:20:44: <ais523> but I remember that the main concept was that there was only one program, which was a physical obect -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:20:45: <ais523> *object -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:20:59: <ais523> and you programmed in it by physically travelling elsewhere in the world so that you were looking at it from a different perspective -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:21:02: <oerjan> ais523: hey it could still be better than most on the wiki -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:21:03: <ais523> which changed what it meant -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:21:59: <ais523> wow, now I'm laughing out load at that for some reason -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:22:40: <ais523> well, both -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:22:47: <ais523> elliott: fractal -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:22:57: <ais523> it helps if you know the object that oerjan's describing -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:23:05: <ais523> now I'm wondering if any of the things have ever been made? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:23:27: <ais523> olsner: arguably, constraint-based programming does that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:23:34: <ais523> oklopol-Clue, Proud, etc -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:24:09: <olsner> ais523: oh, that's kind of what I was thinking about yes... sounds boring :( -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:25:02: <ais523> now I want one of those, but I bet they're really expensive -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:25:15: <ais523> and I'd have nowhere to put it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:25:51: <ais523> btw, I think it's theoretically possible to have a (fractal) digital sundial that shows the date too (not the year, though) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:26:18: <ais523> I have the feeling that they aren't made very much for that reason -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:26:59: <oerjan> ais523: i recall discussing that previously and concluding that there must be days in the spring that cannot be distinguished from days in the autumn -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:27:23: <ais523> fizzie: I just found that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:27:31: <ais523> €91 is more than I'm willing to pay for a digital sundial -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:27:42: <ais523> it's in the range of things that I could afford, but more than the value I put on one -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:29:56: <ais523> elliott: why does that surprise you? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:30:06: <elliott> ais523: it doesn't, just worries -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:30:17: <ais523> it was probably inevitable, wasn't it? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:30:28: <elliott> ais523: :( -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:31:39: <ais523> elliott: I don't even think he's intentionally shilling -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:32:13: <ais523> and nah, ANKOS introduced me to a bunch of paradigms I wouldn't know existed otherwise -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:32:28: <ais523> admittedly I had to find more reliable sources about them, but just knowing they exist is good -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:34:05: <ais523> Friendship: you just made that up, right? still, it's great -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:34:22: <ais523> also, this probably means it's quite easy to determine his password if you know where to look… -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:36:34: <ais523> elliott: you know the Star Trek-related link that you wikified? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:36:39: <ais523> are you sure it's not actually human-added spam? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:36:57: <ais523> an attempt to add a specific link in an attempt to make it look ontopic? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:37:19: <elliott> ais523: 90% sure or so -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:37:29: <ais523> Friendship: not the Wikipedia link -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:37:31: <ais523> the external -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:37:57: <ais523> but it's not "Spock's Brain", which is famously the worst Star Wars episode ever -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:38:22: <ais523> err, Start Trek -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:38:26: <ais523> *Star Trek -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:39:11: <ais523> ah, OK -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:39:20: <elliott> ais523: also, the user who added it isn't an IP -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:39:38: <ais523> I guess I'm just used to Wikipedia trolls who came up with really complex and sophisticated methods of spamming that are about on a level of what I've been describing -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:39:58: <ais523> not for any obvious reason, either -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:41:11: <elliott> ais523: [[List of ideas]] is weirdly WardsWikiish -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:41:37: <ais523> I like that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:41:54: <ais523> people should use that style of wiki more often -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:42:19: <ais523> strangely enough, Talk pages often end up like that on Wikipedia -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:42:34: <ais523> especially if they're being periodically refactored but everyone but the person refactoring is ignoring the refactoring -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:42:42: <ais523> (as in, not reverting it, just not respecting the fact it's happened) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:50:36: <elliott> ais523: I think it might have been Chaitin who wrote that Lisp interpreter. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:51:06: <ais523> elliott: that rings a bell -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:51:14: <ais523> although I wouldn't have got it without the reminder, I think -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:52:01: <ais523> yes -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:52:11: <ais523> this was almost a problem in my research a couple of years back -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:52:38: <ais523> it took me some work to prove that the suspiciously diophantine-equation-like set of inequalities I had was actually decidable -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:53:03: <ais523> and equations concerning polynomials on multiple variables, all of which are integers -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:53:15: <ais523> olsner: go swat elliott for me, will you? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:53:26: <ais523> err, oerjan: -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:53:49: <oerjan> ais523: i cannot do that, it was entrapment -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:53:59: <ais523> OK, olsner, you swat him then -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:19:54:07: <ais523> actually -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:09:10: <elliott> <ais523> OK, olsner, you swat him then -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:15:24: <ais523> ooh, apparently I've been on Reddit for a year, for the nearest day -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:16:30: <ais523> ooh, I got 16 comment karma for pointing out a respect in which Emacs and Eclipse were equally good, in the middle of what was becoming an editor war -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:16:42: <ais523> presumably, because claiming that they're equally good at something doesn't annoy fanboys of either side -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:17:12: <ais523> well, it was correcting an implication made by the parent comment -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:18:04: <ais523> oh, the single comment that gave me the /most/ karma was for bashing PHP, but it still wasn't very much -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:18:08: <ais523> after that, for bashing VHDL -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:18:55: <ais523> were you? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:20:22: <ais523> someone here got over 1000 karma from one comment, IIRC -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:20:28: <ais523> but I forget who or why -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:20:35: <ais523> hmm, what's the single highest-rated comment on Reddit ever, I wonder? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:21:57: <ais523> oh right -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:22:03: <ais523> was it first post ever, or something? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:22:32: <ais523> oh, right -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:22:35: <ais523> who's qgyh2? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:23:08: <ais523> there's something weirdly circular about upvoting someone because they have high karma -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:23:17: <ais523> and, umm, what's the picture (and is it SFW)? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:23:46: <ais523> well, it's in r/pics -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:24:01: <ais523> so I assumed the post was at least vaguely ontopic -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:24:08: <ais523> not the comment itself, but the post it was attached to -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:24:33: <elliott> ais523: oh, and it was a self-post, so he got no karma for it :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:24:35: <ais523> oh, it's a test /post/, not test comment? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:24:45: <ais523> also, why aren't self-posts worth karma? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:25:16: <elliott> ais523: because "UPVOTE IF DSKLSDJFLKSDFJ;" and all that kind of shit are self-posts -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:25:43: <ais523> surely making them worth karma would encourage people not to upvote them? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:26:12: <ais523> btw, highly-rated YouTube comments are often hilariously insightful parodies of the whole YouTube comment thing -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:26:27: <ais523> well, by /YouTube/ standards -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:26:28: <elliott> ais523: no, people upvote them no matter what, because reddit is full of idiots -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:26:44: <ais523> hmm, right -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:26:48: <ais523> I mostly stay confined to proggit -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:27:02: <ais523> and occasionally r/nethack, if we're trying to do an announcement there -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:30:02: <ais523> elliott: proggit's comments are typically low-quality but there are frequently high-quality ones there too -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:30:18: <ais523> although that's more pronounced in Slashdot, which almost always eventually ends up with a few excellent comments -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:38:30: <ais523> elliott: I thought of your roguelike too -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:38:36: <ais523> it isn't, but what it is is actually moderately interesting -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:20:57:17: <ais523> ooh, now we can run it in the JS interp that's embedded in PHP! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:21:00:38: -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:22:25:15: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-08.txt:23:15:52: -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:20:51:30: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:20:54:13: <elliott> hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:20:54:27: <ais523> hi Phantom_Hoover -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:20:54:35: * Phantom_Hoover remembers that period where he thought ais523 was a mathematician. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:20:54:43: <ais523> Phantom_Hoover: I was! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:20:54:45: <ais523> I just amn't any more -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:20:55:24: <ais523> is there such a concept? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:21:04:40: <Phantom_Hoover> And doesn't ais523 research formally-verified compilers? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:21:05:02: <ais523> Phantom_Hoover: not really; I do prove that the algorithms behind the compilers are correct -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:21:05:13: <ais523> but I don't prove that the compilers that are intended to follow those algorithms actually do -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:21:05:18: <Phantom_Hoover> ais523, yes, which is hardly more "pure" than proving $theorem is correct. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:21:07:05: <ais523> Phantom_Hoover: would you call this a pure maths result?: given a set of equalities/inequalities, each of which is of one of the forms (a = b, a <= b, a <= b+c, a <= b*c), and all the unknowns are known to be nonnegative integers, it is decidable whether a given set has a solution or not -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:21:07:56: <Phantom_Hoover> ais523, well, TbH, pure maths is a pretty useless concept; I was joking before. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:21:08:25: <ais523> you didn't answer my question -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:21:10:40: <ais523> elliott: "foundations" = ? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:21:10:52: <Phantom_Hoover> ais523, logic. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:21:11:09: <ais523> well, I'm pretty happy that linear and affine logic were invented -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:21:11:17: <ais523> or Verity probably wouldn't exist -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:21:11:18: <elliott> ais523: logic, set theory, type theory, etc. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:21:11:31: <ais523> yep -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:21:11:41: <ais523> I'm not convinced that they're useless at all -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:21:15:10: <Phantom_Hoover> ais523, they're obviously very useful, because you can't build without foundations, and they're interesting in their own right; I (personally) don't enjoy studying them as much as other things, but elliott seems to be veering towards declaring that they're the One True Path. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:21:58:06: <ais523> one of the best reasons to use Perl -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:21:58:14: <ais523> because it has libraries that nothing else has -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-09.txt:23:24:15: <ais523> oh, I've known about it for a while -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:00:11:51: <oklofok> ais523: what else do you know that you've been holding out on me? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:00:12:10: <ais523> oklofok: err, I don't know -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:00:17:45: <ais523> oklofok: one thing I've been wondering about is if CBPV and Underload are equivalent or not (allowing for the difference in typedness) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:00:17:55: <ais523> I think CBPV embeds in Underload, but not trivially the other way round -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:00:26:26: <ais523> I know what you mean -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:00:26:36: <ais523> partly because my supervisor keeps thinking things are relevant when they aren't -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:01:15:11: <elliott> ais523: what's context for? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:01:15:25: <ais523> elliott: ? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:01:15:31: <ais523> oh, I see -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:01:15:36: <oklofok> ais523: it's one more than the previous -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:03:07:50: <elliott> hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:03:07:59: <ais523> hi elliott -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:03:30:31: <elliott> even ais523 thinks it's meaningless, and he invented Feather -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:09:58:24: -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:17:35:34: <elliott> @ask ais523 What is our policy on modifying your own talk page comments days after they were posted? If we don't have one, make one up. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:21:00:06: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:21:00:25: <elliott> hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:21:00:28: <ais523> hi elliott -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:21:00:29: <lambdabot> ais523: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:21:01:08: <ais523> @messages -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:21:01:34: <ais523> elliott: it's OK as long as you aren't misleading people as to the context of replies to those comments -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:21:02:52: <elliott> ais523: even for substantial additions over the course of days? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:21:03:24: <ais523> if the comments haven't been replied to, I don't see a problem -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:21:03:27: <ais523> although you should probably bump the timestamp -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:22:45:33: <elliott> ais523: Did you know that dependent type systems are improper? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:22:45:53: <ais523> hmm, I don't see why they can't use type inference to some extent -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:22:46:10: <ais523> sure, it's undecidable, but that doesn't mean that you can't infer when it /is/ decidable and leave the program to annotate the tricky bits -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-10.txt:22:46:25: <ais523> oh, and ADTs are totally a type system feature (pattern matching isn't) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:00:06:40: -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:07:43:23: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:09:04:34: <ais523> hey, it's Sunday, isn't it? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:09:04:45: <ais523> I thought it was Monday, I'm at work at the moment -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:09:04:48: <ais523> because of that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:09:04:52: <ais523> and I was wondering why there was nobody here -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:09:13:04: <shadwick> ais523: for eodermdrome, if a command has an input set, would it get a char from stdin, check it against the input set, then check if the match graph is a subgraph of the state? or should it check if the match is a subgraph before consuming input and continuing -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:09:13:14: <shadwick> ais523: just reading this eodermdrome page -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:09:13:41: <ais523> shadwick: it only consumes input if it matches, IIRC -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:09:14:05: <ais523> as in, matches the input set too -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:09:14:16: <ais523> if the input isn't in the input set, it isn't consumed even if the subgraph matches -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:09:16:09: <shadwick> ais523: ok cool, and one more question: the ascii art graph uses pipes to connect the nodes, and the nice "initial state" picture uses single headed arrows.. are the edges one-way/directed? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:09:16:24: <ais523> no, they're undirected -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:09:17:43: <ais523> it's hard to figure out how to do it efficiently -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:09:17:53: <ais523> although IIRC oklopol tried; I can't remember if he succeeded -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:09:46:45: <ais523> ESME!!!!!!!!! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:09:46:46: <ais523> your turn -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:09:53:25: <ais523> I seem to remember that the Dagoth at Esolang has the comma in a different place from the Dagoth in Morrowind -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:10:07:10: <shadwick> ais523: I don't see how the example bitwise cyclic tag interpreter code for eodermdrome should work out.. the first move leaves us with the graph "miewehit" and no other actions' math graphs are subgraphs of that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:10:09:10: <ais523> let's see… miewehit has a triangle (formed by ieh), once of whose corners is connected to two degree-one nodes, one of whose corners is connected to one degree-one node -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:10:09:15: <ais523> note that the letters aren't part of the graph itself -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:10:10:22: <shadwick> ais523: k thanks. I'm trying to look into this more -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:10:11:06: <ais523> and byanad buguramat requires a degree-at-least-3 node connected to two degree-exactly-one nodes, and to be connected by a degree-exactly-two node to any other node -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:10:11:41: <ais523> so the (1) and (0) lines should both match the initial state -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:10:12:34: <shadwick> ais523: ok I think I see what you mean. I just gotta draw this stuff out haha -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:10:12:58: <ais523> shadwick: there are some ASCII art drawings linked from the article, might save you the trouble -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:10:14:46: <shadwick> ais523: hah I've gotta read the Wiki article on Graph isomorphism now as well. I'm not very well versed in this stuff at all -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:10:15:08: <ais523> Phantom_Hoover: it's funnier as a redlink -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:10:15:12: <ais523> graue: link? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:10:16:47: <graue> ais523: hold on, i made a slight modification to make it shorter -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-11.txt:14:35:20: -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:06:11:56: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:06:12:22: <Lindrum> Hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:06:13:14: <ais523> hi Lindrum -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:12:18:36: -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:12:19:47: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:13:14:18: -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:13:15:05: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:14:40:52: -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:16:05:10: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:16:15:54: -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:17:24:11: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:19:36:23: <ais523> wow, http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html is really out of date -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:19:36:41: <ais523> it mentions GPLv3, but most of its comments about other licenses are written from the point of view of a world where GPLv3 doesn't exit -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:19:36:43: <ais523> *exist -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:19:36:59: <ais523> e.g. calling 4-clause BSD GPL-incompatible (it is compatible with v3 but not v2) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:20:09:00: <ais523> myndzi isn't here -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:20:23:11: <elliott> ais523: ugh, ping -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:20:23:22: <ais523> elliott: pong -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:20:23:27: <ais523> why the ping? why the ugh? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:20:40:53: <ais523> elliott: insane opinion: all websites should be dark-text-on-light-background, so that when I prefer the reverse, I can just reverse-video the entire browser rather than changing for individual pages -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:20:43:15: <ais523> why backup just the names? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:20:43:50: <ais523> err, typically the file contents are more important than the file names -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:20:43:59: <ais523> if the file isn't redownloadable -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:20:44:26: <ais523> itidus21: there are quite a few files I have that aren't stored online anywhere -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:20:44:29: <ais523> that's what backups are /for/ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:20:46:33: <elliott> ais523: why are you arguing with the debate equivalent of fungot -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:20:47:20: <ais523> elliott: because I don't pay enough attention to figure out personalities of people unless I've talked to them really lots -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-12.txt:21:16:51: -!- ais523 has quit (). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:17:19:42: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:17:41:11: <ais523> RocketJSquirrel: it's capitalised "OCaml", which would have worked just as well -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:17:41:27: <RocketJSquirrel> ais523: Yeah, I realized that too late. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:19:55:17: <ais523> elliott: hmm, well it was intended as a joke… -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:19:55:21: <ais523> this is as bad as the esolang/not esolang thing -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:19:55:27: <ais523> I'd prefer to categorise it as nonjoke, though -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:19:56:16: <elliott> ais523: we seem to treat direct brainfuck ciphers as joke languages -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:19:56:26: <elliott> ais523: btw, did you hear that someone wrote an underload self-interp? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:19:57:00: <ais523> elliott: you mean, not the ()^ joke one? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:19:57:06: <ais523> it shouldn't be too hard -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:19:57:22: <ais523> in fact, it should be pretty easy -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:19:57:22: <elliott> ais523: yep -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:20:03:46: <elliott> ais523: hey, is it possible to do a map over every parameter in mediawiki? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:20:04:11: <ais523> not as far as I know, unless you know all the possible parameter names, and only then via the stupidest form of iteration -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:20:04:38: <ais523> I seem to remember the devs yelling at the authors of {{for}}, too -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:20:04:46: <elliott> ais523: hmm... what do templates that take arbitrary amounts of data do, then? oh, hmm, perhaps I can achieve this with X-Macros -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:20:04:48: <ais523> because it produced too much server load, or something -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:20:04:57: <ais523> elliott: they cap at an arbitrary number -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:20:05:00: <ais523> and yes, it does -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:20:05:08: <ais523> this is the usual way to do large hash tables -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:20:05:29: <ais523> err, yes -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:20:05:33: <ais523> where are you going with this? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:20:05:40: <elliott> ais523: trying to generate the [[EsoInterpreters]] table -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:20:11:16: <elliott> ais523: hmm, I have a feeling this may need more template metaprogramming than mediawiki can support -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:20:11:42: <ais523> this is usual -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:20:15:36: <elliott> ais523: http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=User:Ehird/sandbox/data&action=edit -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:20:37:25: <ais523> plainlinks gets rid of the external link arrow on external links, right? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:20:38:46: <elliott> ais523: right -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:20:52:11: <ais523> eot the llI (best viewed in a font where l and I look much the same) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:20:57:17: <ais523> hmm, all the known diff algorithms seem to be O(n^2) worst case -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:20:57:24: <ais523> so why does diff not take ages in practice? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:20:58:32: <ais523> the worst case seems pretty plausible in practice, though -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:20:58:44: <ais523> (one small change near the start, one small change near the end, arbitrary changes elsewhere) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:01:39: <fizzie> ais523: Do the tools actually guarantee optimal diffs, though? They could just be using windows of reasonable size. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:02:35: <ais523> fizzie: I was wondering about that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:02:40: <ais523> but this algo doesn't seem to have a concept of a window -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:03:06: * ais523 gets diffutils source -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:04:57: <fizzie> ais523: If it's the dynamic-programming tabular thing, I think you can retrofit a window into it by restricting things on the "diagonal" (+ fiddling), though I haven't thought this through. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:07:02: <ais523> I was basing it on the dynamic programming algo in Wikipedia -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:07:54: <ais523> hmm, I'd need a good academic library to get copies of those -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:07:59: <ais523> I have access to one, but not right now -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:10:25: <ais523> elliott: meh, I can almost certainly access it legally if I just wait until tomorrow -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:17:40: <fizzie> ais523: Also to finish the quotation, "The algorithm was independently discovered as described in "Algorithms for Approximate String Matching", E. Ukkonen, Information and Control Vol. 64, 1985, pp. 100-118.". I think I've read that, or at least some string paper by Ukkonen. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:18:20: <ais523> fizzie: finnish names are reasonably recognizable; I know a few from following Formula 1 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:19:40: <elliott> ais523: Too bad they never reach the Finnish line. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:20:20: <ais523> elliott: I know that was a bad joke, but IIRC there have been Finnish Formula 1 world champions -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:20:23: <ais523> at least one, anyway -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:21:04: <ais523> nor do I nowadays, although I used to -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:24:08: <ais523> fizzie: hmm, people never write the accents on their names in the UK -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:24:14: <ais523> not even on the official commentary thing -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:24:18: <ais523> is it usual to omit them in Finland too? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:29:57: <ais523> elliott: if you're going to troll fizzie, at least make it vaguely good trolling -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:30:11: <elliott> ais523: This is pretty good by Finnish standards!!! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:44:08: <elliott> ais523: Did you know that Memory Alpha's main page is [[Portal:Main]]? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:44:20: <ais523> yay! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:44:34: <elliott> ais523: On the other hand, it's a Wikia. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:44:55: <ais523> indeed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:46:16: <ais523> RocketJSquirrel: Next Generation here refers to the Star Trek series? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:46:22: <RocketJSquirrel> ais523: Yes. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:46:42: <ais523> and it sounds like the worst of all possible good ideas, to me -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:47:52: <ais523> (well, no, it doesn't, I just wanted to say that) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:21:55:45: <ais523> clearly an LP that can be flipped around couldn't possibly evolve, because what use would it be to have half a song on the other side? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:22:00:27: <ais523> what time zone offset is PST? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:22:01:06: <ais523> trying to make sense of this Azure timezone bug -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:22:01:18: <ais523> oh, UTC-8 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:22:01:51: <elliott> ais523: they had another datetime bug? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:22:01:53: <fizzie> ais523: Pacific or Philippines? Both use the same abbreviation. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:22:02:00: <ais523> elliott: no, the feb 29 one -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:22:02:06: <ais523> fizzie: doesn't say, but I'm guessing Pacific from context -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:22:02:32: <fizzie> ais523: PST was featured prominently in that horrible "round to midnight" discussion #esoteric had. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:22:03:15: <ais523> oh dear -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:22:17:14: <elliott> ais523: hey, you're good at proving things sub-TC, right? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:22:17:38: <ais523> elliott: moderately good -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:22:17:41: <elliott> ais523: excellent -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:22:17:48: <ais523> although don't mention something like Dupdog or Xigxag, I don't have a clue with those -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:22:18:53: <elliott> ais523: well, I want to design a language like self-BCT or Clue (Keymaker), except even simpler -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:22:19:19: <ais523> hmm, I hate TC proofs for those sorts of languages -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:22:20:05: * RocketJSquirrel hands ais523 an onion bagel with sour cream and caramel sauce. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:22:20:53: <ais523> elliott: and the reverse :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:22:36:37: <elliott> ais523: hmm, is it actually possible for admins to see deleted revisions of images? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:22:36:54: <ais523> not sure; it used not to be, but that mat have changed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:23:36:33: <fizzie> ais523: Speaking of nothing at all (but web'o'flies ~~ strace), I heard resize2fs breaks down if you try to run it under strace. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:23:40:05: <ais523> fizzie: weird; why would an ext2 resizer break under strace? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:23:40:22: <ais523> only thing I can think of is that it has timing-sensitive critical sections, or something -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:23:40:38: <ais523> perhaps it should be impossible to ptrace a process at realtime priority -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:23:41:17: <fizzie> ais523: "Reads from disk normally are never short except in the case of disk -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:23:41:59: <ais523> I don't see why strace would cause short reads -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:23:42:46: <ais523> elliott: that won't fit into 510 characters when we run the rewrite script! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:23:43:13: <ais523> (note: the @ log rewrite script necessarily has to be AI-complete, given the job we're trying to get it to do; it has to delete this line, for instance) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:23:44:28: <elliott> ais523: no, no -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:23:44:38: <elliott> ais523: it is not the rewrite script's problem if you said nonsense in 2012. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:23:44:59: <ais523> elliott: doesn't it have to hide the fact it existed? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-13.txt:23:45:55: <fizzie> ais523: It was in the context of attaching strace to a running process; maybe that could interrupt a read? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:05:22: <ais523> elliott: Wikipedia used a stock timespan parser from somewhere, which has a bunch of joke features -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:17:45: <ais523> `frink 11218573000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 plancktime -> "weeks" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:17:49: <ais523> what's with the quotes at the end? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:18:06: <ais523> `frink 1 week -> "plancktime" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:18:18: <pikhq_> ais523: Quotes tell frink to just display the unit at the end... -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:18:31: <ais523> `frink 1 week -> plancktime -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:18:51: <ais523> oh, changes whether the unit's displayed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:18:53: <ais523> that's weird -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:31:00: <ais523> annoying VHDL feature: it doesn't allow __ in a variable name, compilers enforce this -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:31:21: <ais523> what sane reason is there to ban __ inside variable names? so that it can safely be used as a separator in name mangling rather than using length prefixes? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:31:38: <ais523> elliott: normally you ban a prefix for that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:31:44: <ais523> not something that can be put anywhere inside the name -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:31:56: <ais523> (fwiw, my Verity compiler uses leading 0 on internal use names, as names can't normally start with a digit) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:35:15: <elliott> ais523: why do you need internal names? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:35:35: <ais523> elliott: stuff generated by desugaring, mostly -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:35:49: <elliott> ais523: that means you're doing it wrong :( -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:35:51: <ais523> also, one of the keywords ("export") works by generating a variable behind the scenes ("00export") -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:36:03: <ais523> elliott: well, the resulting variables have to be called something in the VHDL code! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:37:34: <ais523> elliott: we try to let the user's variable names get all the way through into the generated code -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:37:43: <ais523> partly this is so that the linker works, partly it's to make things easier to debug -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:38:54: <elliott> ais523: I didn't disagree with that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:39:14: <ais523> so this means that when extra variables are added, they need names too -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:42:08: <ais523> this is variables in the functional programming sense -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:42:36: <ais523> so here's a problem for you: suppose you have the following code: f(x;x); f(x||x) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:42:43: <ais523> err, I don't mean that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:42:50: <ais523> f(\x.x;x); f(\x.x||x) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:42:59: <ais523> now, the two arguments to f don't have compatible signatures -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:43:16: <ais523> err, you have it backwards; a "name" is kind-of like a pointer or a reference -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:43:38: <ais523> computer science has a whole load of widely-defined terms -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:43:42: <ais523> you can't just redefine them at random! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:43:49: <ais523> "name" in Algol-like languages is like a reference -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:44:19: <ais523> so this needs to be desugared into f(\x1.\x2.x1;x1); f(\x1.\x2.x1||x2) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:44:31: <ais523> (the first throws away x2) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:45:15: <ais523> elliott: now, suppose I do f(\x.x;x); f(\x.x||x); f(g) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:45:20: <ais523> and g has the same type as \x.x;x -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:45:37: <ais523> oh wait, in that case I can change g to \j.g or whatever -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:45:56: <ais523> oh, still works, I need to invent a fresh name for the lambda that's put around g -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:46:01: <ais523> in your terminology -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:46:15: <ais523> so I get f(\x1.\x2.x1;x1); f(\x1.\x2.x1||x2); f(\j.g) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:46:35: <ais523> nah, it goes from one language to a slightly different one -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:47:04: <ais523> elliott: anyway, the \j.g /goes through to the final hardware/ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:47:10: <ais523> you can identify the individual wires that make up j -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:47:16: <ais523> and they need names -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:47:38: <ais523> well, they need names in the VHDL code -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:47:54: <ais523> VHDL doesn't let you have wires that don't have names -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:48:00: <elliott> ais523: that's the backend's problem -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:48:08: <ais523> but I wrote the backend too! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:48:22: <ais523> you think I should generate the arbitrary names, which are different from all existing names, in the backend rather than frontend? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:48:30: <ais523> I don't see how that would modify the problem at all -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:49:02: <ais523> but then I wouldn't have them the same in the final VHDL program as the original user's prorgam -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:49:03: <ais523> *program -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:49:16: <ais523> (mangled, there's an s/_/0_0/g and a suffix to preserve case-sensitivity) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:50:12: <ais523> elliott: you also have to allow for the problem that such graphs aren't easily represented with ADTs -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:50:19: <ais523> and the most common way to do so is /to give the nodes arbitrary names/ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:50:23: <ais523> so you're not even gaining anything -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:51:19: <ais523> I must stop asking you for advice :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:51:25: <ais523> how's your own Verity compiler/interp getting on? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:52:00: <ais523> ouch, that seems /really/ out of character for you -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:52:25: <ais523> either way -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:53:53: <ais523> problems with school, or something like that? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:54:30: <ais523> not even a Verity compiler? ;) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:54:42: <ais523> I thought you wanted to write one with a less insane license -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:54:51: <ais523> and you presumably wouldn't be targeting hardware, so no need for SCC transforms, etc -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:55:23: <ais523> yes; also, we've already settled on such a list, haven't we? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:55:32: <ais523> BF, Befunge, INTERCAL, Unlambda, Underload -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:55:35: <ais523> did I miss one? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:56:08: <ais523> well, hm -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:56:18: <ais523> we'd really want to show off all corners of esolang design -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:56:29: <ais523> there are some missing genres there, e.g. we'd want a thematic language -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:56:31: <ais523> RocketJSquirrel: good point -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:56:34: <ais523> preferably a /good/ one -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:56:43: <ais523> Shakespeare or Chef or Haifu or something like that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:58:15: <ais523> Befunge is not a language that takes well to derivatices -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:58:18: <ais523> *derivatives -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:58:22: <ais523> should be an OISC there, indeed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:58:54: <ais523> also, there's a corner of esolangs with several examples that I don't think has a name, but it stores all its data in a queue or stack or something like that, and is reasonably imperative -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:59:04: <ais523> elliott: Fractran? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:59:30: <elliott> <ais523> also, there's a corner of esolangs with several examples that I don't think has a name, but it stores all its data in a queue or stack or something like that, and is reasonably imperative -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:59:35: <ais523> no, but there was an equivalent language that was -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:59:44: <ais523> elliott: FALSE is a little atypical of it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:00:59:53: <ais523> I was thinking more along the lines of Sceql -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:00:09: <ais523> (FALSE is in there, but is an outlier) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:00:22: <ais523> I thought so, but now I'm having problems thinking of them -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:00:24: <ais523> to the wiki! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:00:52: <ais523> probably half of http://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Stack-based -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:01:25: <ais523> Piet counts -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:01:39: <ais523> it uses an unusual source code form, but computationally it's just like that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:02:10: <ais523> elliott: I know, it was a timing coincidence -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:02:15: <ais523> I didn't see his comment while I was writing mine -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:03:06: <elliott> ais523: oh, that's amazing -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:11:22: <ais523> hey, remember that one-dimensional MMO we were discussing ages ago? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:11:26: <ais523> `pastlog one-dimensional MMO -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:27:48: <elliott> ais523: goooon -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:28:15: <ais523> elliott: I can't remember many of the details either -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:28:17: <ais523> that's why I asked -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:28:28: <ais523> I remember that it was going to give some kind of main advantage for being online constantly -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:28:50: <ais523> some mechanic involving swapping with someone, and you could cancel a swap that someone was trying to do to you manually within 5 minutes or so -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:48:21: <augur> ais523: ty -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:53:28: <augur> ais523: thank you -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:58:28: <ais523> augur: thanks for thanking me -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:58:47: <elliott> ais523: thanks -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:58:55: <augur> ais523: for your comment on the typo on reddit -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:59:30: <ais523> ah, OK -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:59:40: <ais523> that was your program? I don't have everyone here's reddit usernames memorized -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:01:59:47: <ais523> elliott: you're welcome -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:00:10: <ais523> come to think of it, I'm not sure if a recursive function with no recursive call is even legal in Verity -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:00:11: <ais523> let me check -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:00:12: <augur> ais523: indeed. me = psygnisfive -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:00:49: <ais523> $ ./gosc -S /tmp/t.ia -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:00:51: <ais523> /tmp/t.ia: recursion in input program cannot be converted: recursive argument f not used in fix(\f.c_skip$0) [line 1 character 0 - line 1 character 11] -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:00:58: <ais523> indeed it isn't -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:02:52: <elliott> ais523: thanks -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:03:34: <ais523> sadly, the error message for something like "fix \f.\x.{f(f(x))}" is much worse, as the compiler can't figure out exactly where the error happens, just that it happens -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:03:52: <ais523> (I must write an article about Verity programming some day; the semantics are almost eso in some places, e.g. that line isn't obviously wrong) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:04:07: <elliott> ais523: link to verity's site? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:04:26: <ais523> http://www.veritygos.org/ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:04:32: <ais523> which in Firefox, at least to me, is an infinite redirect loop -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:04:53: <ais523> also Epiphany, so it's not a result of refusing cookies -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:04:55: <ais523> wow, that's impressive -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:05:25: <ais523> the old name, https://sites.google.com/site/thegeometryofsynthesis/ is still working -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:05:51: <elliott> ais523: have you tried to convince the lawyers to let you license it under something more reasonable any more? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:06:08: <ais523> <ais523 to website owner> That link is currently a redirect to itself. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:06:19: <ais523> nah, because my boss agrees with them, and he's not worth arguing with -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:06:27: <ais523> besides the license is reasonable, for what it's intended for -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:06:53: <ais523> hmm, it makes quite a statement -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:06:57: <ais523> it's like the website version of a fixed point -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:08:39: <elliott> ais523: you said verity's syntax is documented; where is that? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:08:47: <ais523> in a file grammar.txt inside the documentation -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:08:51: <ais523> and permissive, it's all in the EULA -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:09:36: <ais523> "(e) Directory Examples can be used, copied, reproduced and distributed without restriction." -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:10:09: <ais523> hmm, they forgot "modified" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:10:24: <ais523> perhaps -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:12:23: <ais523> $ find lib -name '*.vhd' | wc -l \ 5 \ $ find lib -name '*.v' | wc -l \ 2 \ $ find include -name '*.ia' | wc -l \ 4 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:12:31: <ais523> depends on your definition -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:12:39: <ais523> we're planning to write more -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:12:51: <ais523> and maybe support .ml libraries for the interpreter -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:13:08: <ais523> thing that annoys me; OCaml's compiler is not available via the OCaml libraries -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:13:17: <ais523> it's written in OCaml, there's no reason it /shouldn't/ be -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:13:46: <ais523> you can't convince me not to do my job :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:13:53: <ais523> however, I'm not sure how many more or less my job will require me to write -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:14:16: <ais523> however however, some of them are platform-specific to platforms you probably don't own, and some are very simple -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:14:44: <ais523> one thing not described in the distribution is the VHDL/Verilog API, which is important for writing libraries in languages other than Verity -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:14:52: <ais523> it is described in our papers, though -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:14:59: <ais523> apart from the naming schemes -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:15:10: <ais523> "sharing" = what, in this context? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:15:54: <ais523> yep, let f = \x.x;x in new x:=2 in f(x := !x + 1); print(x) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:16:16: <ais523> (whitespace is irrelevant except for separating alphanumeric tokens, as you probably guessed already) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:16:58: <ais523> err, huh -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:17:01: <ais523> the license defines Documentation -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:17:06: <ais523> and then there are no license terms relating to it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:17:25: <ais523> I believe that means that its license is all rights reserved, by default -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:17:29: <ais523> but I'm not a lawyer so don't know for certain -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:18:30: <ais523> elliott: if you read the grammar off a website, would that be unacceptable? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:18:51: <ais523> note that (despite what Oracle are claiming in court), implementing an API is not a derivative work of that API -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:19:31: <ais523> "By installing, downloading, and/or using the Software, You agree to the terms and conditions of this Agreement." -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:19:43: <ais523> ah, hmm, Software apparently includes Documentation -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:19:56: <ais523> who comes up with these definitions? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:20:38: <ais523> ah, OK, the license terms apply to the Software as a whole, including the documentation -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:20:56: <ais523> elliott: perhaps I can persuade them to put the grammar on the website, then -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:21:16: <ais523> hahaha -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:21:23: <ais523> they didn't put the quick-start guide behind a EULA -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:21:56: <ais523> (it's behind a download link, though, for reasons I don't understand; but it's a Markdown file with a .txt extension, because I passed it off to them as plain text) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:23:17: <ais523> hmm -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:23:25: <ais523> operator precedence is a pain to describe over IRC -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:23:36: <ais523> due to notation that would simplify describing it being used in the language itself -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:23:46: <ais523> maybe I'll just explain in operator precedence order -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:23:53: <ais523> starting at the loosest -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:25:05: <ais523> so, loosest is lambda (\a.b), scoped binding (let a = b in c, which is sugar for (\a.c)(b)), fixedpoint (fix \a.b); fixedpoint has the same semantics as fix in haskell, except it must take a literal lambda as its argument -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:25:22: <ais523> and although those are all equal, I don't think there's any possible circumstance in which it would matter anyway -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:25:36: <ais523> next is pair formation (a,b) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:25:43: <ais523> not by me! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:26:05: <ais523> tswett: seems pretty categorical to me -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:26:37: <ais523> after that is the creation of memory cells, "new a in b", which causes a to be a memory location throughout b (and then cease to exist again) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:26:54: <ais523> oh, it's an identifier -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:27:00: <ais523> that's array creation -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:27:11: <ais523> which is something else that we haven't added to our grammar documentation -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:27:28: <ais523> and specifically, serial array creation (an array where you can only access one element at a time) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:27:37: <ais523> btw, whether things can happen simultaneously or not is critical to understanding Verity -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:27:53: <ais523> that's the only sort of array we've implemented so far -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:28:09: <ais523> we're planning parallel arrays too, with syntax probably a[128], which would be sugar for defining 128 different variables -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:28:18: <ais523> no, unless you plan to reject incorrect programs -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:28:32: <ais523> the interpreter works by passing the code through the compiler's type-checker, then throwing away the output ;) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:28:50: <ais523> (except for inferring things like bitwidths) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:29:38: <ais523> OK, after that, is a || b, which is parallel composition; a and b must be allowed to be executed simultaneously, obviously -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:29:51: <ais523> then a;b, sequential composition (i.e. "do a then b") -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:30:00: <ais523> both || and ; take two commands as arguments and return a command -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:30:12: <ais523> (and a command is a 0-bit integer with possible side effects) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:30:30: <ais523> then come the control structures: "while a do b" and "if a then b else c" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:30:57: <ais523> the first argument is a 1-bit integer; while takes a command as its loop body, if allows any base type in the then and else fields -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:31:03: <ais523> well, it's meant to be practical -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:31:10: <ais523> and they are, but there's syntax for them -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:31:15: <ais523> to stop people having to write whiledo(a)(b) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:32:07: <ais523> it actually gets desugared into an ffi call internally, (c_while:(exp$1*com)->com) a b -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:32:19: <ais523> and the actual implementation of while is done by the FFI -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:32:30: <ais523> then is assignment, a := b -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:32:42: <ais523> that's really really tightly binding -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:32:56: <ais523> and part of the identifier syntax, at that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:33:52: <ais523> after that comes arithmetic primitives, | ^ (left-associative), &, == (non-associative), < > (non-associative), << >> +>> (left-associative), + - (left-associative), * -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:34:08: <ais523> all have the same meaning as in C, except that >> is unsigned rightshift and +>> is signed rightshift -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:34:34: <ais523> (i.e. >> fills the left-over bit with 0, +>> fills it with the sign bit of the original number, like >>> and >> in Java) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:34:54: <ais523> there's also a +< and +> for signed comparisons, which aren't in this grammar file for some reason; < and > are unsigned -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:35:10: <ais523> after that is ~, unary bit-complement (the same as in C) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:35:13: <elliott> ais523: you know, Haskell solved this operator syntax problem excellently. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:35:15: <ais523> after that is !, variable dereference -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:36:01: <elliott> monqy: better than ais523 solved it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:36:18: <ais523> then is function call, "a(b)" (can also be written as "a b" if b is sufficiently simple; IIRC it must be a constant or identifier, possibly with a cast) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:36:54: <ais523> then tightest of all is bitwidth conversion, a$$n where n is a literal integer, which discards high bits or zero-extends -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:37:02: <ais523> (and likewise, a+$$n discards high bits or sign-extends) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:37:12: <ais523> you can also put various type assertions on things -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:37:36: <ais523> examples would be :com, :exp$5, :(com -> com) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:37:49: <ais523> single-dollar is a bitwidth assertion, which can be used on types or numerical constants -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:37:54: <ais523> so 0$8 means an eight-bit zero -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:38:00: <ais523> and exp$5 a five-bit integer -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:38:04: <ais523> exp$0 is equivalent to com -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:38:23: <ais523> and 0$0 can also be written as "skip" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:38:39: <ais523> unary minus always requires parens, incidentally -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:38:45: <ais523> to distinguish between a-1 and a(-1) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:39:06: <ais523> anyway, that's about it, syntactically -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:39:14: <ais523> there's also a lambda that works on tuples, \(a,b).x -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:39:52: <ais523> and the difference between \a.\b.x and \(a,b).x is that the second asserts that a and b can be used simultaneously, the first asserts that they can't be -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:40:17: <ais523> well, there are three different type systems… -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:40:35: <ais523> programs are written in ICA, but must be valid in SCC -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:40:46: <ais523> and then that's converted to SCI for use in hardware -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:40:59: <ais523> I could try to describe them over IRC, or just link you to the papers defining them -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:42:17: <ais523> here, http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~drg/papers/popl11.pdf -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:42:37: <ais523> that describes not only all the type systems used, but all the algorithms we use to convert between them -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:43:14: <ais523> oh, and it describes the resulting circuitry too -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:43:23: <ais523> except in the case of recursion, which we hadn't worked out at the time that paper was written -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:43:51: <ais523> well, then you wouldn't be rejecting invalid programs, but it'd still work fine on the valid ones, mostly -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:43:54: <ais523> except for bitwidth inference -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:44:39: <elliott> monqy: ais523&co.'s impure, call-by-name higher-order functional language -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:44:54: <ais523> for instance, print(~4) implies that the 4 is a 32-bit 4, at least if you do an "import <print>" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:45:10: <ais523> because print.vhd defines print as being of type exp$32->com -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:45:25: <ais523> and of course the bitwidth of the 4 will affect what its complement is -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:46:41: * elliott wonders if ais523 has monqy on ignore or something -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:46:47: <ais523> I don't -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:46:52: <ais523> just you answered faster than I did -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:46:59: <ais523> monqy: I wanted to call it ALGOL-11 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:47:02: <ais523> but they wouldn't let me -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:47:16: <ais523> well, ALGOL-12 by now I guess, but 11 sounds nicer -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:47:56: <elliott> ais523: he asked earlier, too -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:48:23: <ais523> it is very much an Algol dialect, though, semantically -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:48:34: <ais523> and the syntax is different but based off similar principles -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:48:52: <ais523> elliott: oh, there's also {} in the syntax, which is sugar for ():com -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:49:07: <ais523> so you can write while 1 do {command; another_command} -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:49:31: <ais523> the type system also has var, but it's sugar for something -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:49:56: <ais523> ah, var$n = (exp$n*(exp$n->com)) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:50:25: <ais523> which means that I guess ! and := could be implemented in pure Verity, if I were so inclined -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:50:29: <ais523> but there's no way to define operators yet -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:50:53: <ais523> oh, and the other thing that it's easy to miss is that division doesn't exist -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:50:56: <ais523> we might add a library for div and mod -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:51:00: <elliott> <ais523> but there's no way to define operators yet -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:51:01: <elliott> <elliott> ais523: you know, Haskell solved this operator syntax problem excellently. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:51:38: <ais523> just by interpreting any random string of characters it doesn't understand as an operator -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:51:48: <ais523> but that's actually more complex than what we're doing at the moment -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:51:56: <ais523> *string of punctuation marks -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:52:47: <ais523> because you'd need to get the parser to parse prio operatives (or whatever you call them, but it's called prio in algol 68) and then change the way it parsed from then on accordingly -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:52:52: <ais523> I thought you didn't like state? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:53:00: <ais523> (^ both nonsequitur and strawman) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:53:53: <elliott> ais523: how many 1-pass compilers are there? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:56:45: <ais523> elliott: it's very hard to convince people to use a language where a+b*c doesn't do what they expect -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:57:02: <ais523> "looking vaguely familiar" was the main criterion we used to design Verity's syntax -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:57:19: <ais523> I added {} for ():com simply because I wanted to use them for while statements -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:57:32: <ais523> because it looked weird with () -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:58:05: * elliott isn't sure "convincing people to use Verity" is a real problem ais523 faces :P -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:58:20: <ais523> I don't face it /personally/ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:02:58:31: <ais523> but I was asked to help the people/person out whose job it was -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:02:32: <elliott> ais523: anyway, why does the language need a built-in notion of bitwidths? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:02:47: <ais523> concession to hardware, where everything needs a set bitwidth -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:03:17: <ais523> "4-bit integer" and "1024-bit integer" are completely different types, the type system should reflect that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:03:33: <elliott> ais523: # -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:04:33: <ais523> elliott: because it's an operation that people will want to do a lot? and because it makes sense to be able to access the bits of an integer in parallel with each other? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:04:54: <ais523> (exp$1 * exp$1) is not the same type as (exp$2) in terms of the operations you can do o nit -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:04:55: <ais523> *on it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:05:07: <ais523> as the first is a promise that you won't access the two bits simultaneously -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:05:14: <elliott> ais523: people want to do lots of operations a lot, that doesn't mean they have to be axiomatic! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:06:18: <ais523> not really, that'd complicate the type system considerably for no real gain -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:06:39: <ais523> tupling is serial, currying is parallel, is the whole heart of the language -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:06:50: <ais523> (c_seq:com*com->com) (c_par:com->com->com) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:07:08: <ais523> elliott: well, you'd need to add empty tuples as well, or else make com a separate type from exp$0 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:07:48: <ais523> elliott: also, you'd need a sufficiently smart compiler to even produce remotely efficient hardware -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:08:11: <ais523> because it's possible to force individual parts of a tuple -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:08:18: <ais523> and the hardware would need to reflect that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:08:34: <ais523> imagine a program like (\(a,b).a)(print(4),print(5)) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:09:00: <ais523> or (\(a&b).a)(print(4)&print(5)) with & as parallel tuple rather than bitwise & -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:09:07: <ais523> and I didn't overload syntax, did I? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:09:10: <ais523> at least, what do you think I overloaded -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:09:13: <ais523> yes, bitwise XOR -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:09:22: <ais523> (a,b) means a tuple b -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:09:25: <ais523> nope, @ isn't used -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:09:46: <ais523> com -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:09:56: <ais523> print itself has type exp$32->com -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:10:11: <ais523> because some definite value needs to be picked for separate compilation, and 32 is nicely sized for most applications of print -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:10:16: <ais523> yep -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:10:34: <ais523> now, (exp@exp@…) would allow you to force individual bits independently -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:10:44: <ais523> and have different side effects on different bits -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:11:03: <ais523> which would mean 32 potential entry points -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:11:16: <ais523> which would be rather nastily inefficient for hardware that's O(number of entry points) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:11:52: <ais523> elliott: OK, so you have a parallel tuple that forces you to force every element at once? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:12:11: <ais523> hmm, this concept actually exists in call-by-push-value, it has two types of tuples for this reason -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:12:17: <elliott> ais523: Isn't exp$32 a parallel 32-tuple that forces you to force every element at once? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:12:47: <ais523> elliott: well, no, it's not implemented like that, but it is equivalent to that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:13:08: <ais523> elliott: anyway, this type system doesn't even make sense now, what's ((com*com)@com) meant to mean? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:13:12: <ais523> (com*com) has two entry points -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:13:25: <ais523> so which of them gets forced when you force the whole thing? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:13:52: <ais523> this isn't even my language any more, it's basic call-by-name semantics -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:14:48: <ais523> elliott: oh, in Verity, you force individual tuple elements, forcing the whole tuple isn't something that makes sense -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:14:58: <ais523> and likewise, it's impossible to sequence a tuple with something, seq only works on base types -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:15:16: <ais523> elliott: it's that way in all the literature for Algol-like languages -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:15:47: <elliott> ais523: well, that means you identify _|_ and (_|_,_|_), right? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:15:50: <ais523> elliott: think of com as being like a monad action, if it helps; that's one valid way to implement it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:16:22: <ais523> elliott: (_|_, _|_) would be a reasonable way to define _|_ at a product type, yes -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:16:50: <elliott> ais523: then, I don't see what's wrong with forcing both sides of it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:16:59: <ais523> because (_|_, 0) is also a legal value -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:17:05: <elliott> ais523: that's fine -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:17:39: <ais523> it is impossible to define (,) in Verity, except in terms of itself -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:18:18: <ais523> elliott: so which /order/ does it force the two sides of (print 0, print 1)@skip? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:18:42: <ais523> it can't force them simultaneously, , introduces a serial tuple -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:19:17: <elliott> ais523: left first, why not -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:19:48: <ais523> I fail to see how this type system is less complicated than the one with a primitive fixed-width integer type :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:20:16: <ais523> oh, the other reason things like + are primitive in Verity, is that you can't define polymorphic functions -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:21:01: <ais523> from a semantic level, if you write print(3+4), the compiler will generate a 32-bit + for you -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:21:04: <ais523> and use that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:21:17: <ais523> to prevent a huge amount of duplication, it uses generics in the generated VHDL -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:21:57: <ais523> yep -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:22:02: <ais523> it is, in the FFI -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:22:14: <ais523> but + gets desugared into an FFI call -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:23:12: <ais523> I agree that proper C++-style templates would make a reasonable addition to the language, though; they're mentioned in one of our papers -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:23:20: <ais523> well, not /that/ C++-style, that would be insane by definition -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:23:23: <ais523> but the basic idea -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:24:42: <ais523> polymorphism only over bitwidths would be so much easier -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:24:57: <ais523> mostly because VHDL doesn't support polymorphism except for array bounds -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:25:33: <ais523> although, it'd be nice if a parallel array was just a template that took a compile-time param and returned a variable -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:25:45: <ais523> now I'm seriously thinking about this -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:26:39: <ais523> you can't even write recursive data structures -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:26:55: <ais523> except by rolling your own malloc-alike, or by implementing them as functions (which is very inefficient for most practical uses) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:27:02: <ais523> oh, you saw that? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:27:13: <ais523> that's done with a roll-your-own-malloc, and not a particularly efficient one at that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:27:15: <ais523> I didn't write it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:27:22: <ais523> that was my supervisor trying to prove a point -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:27:41: <ais523> that hardware recursion was useful, or something -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:27:45: <ais523> I'm not entirely sure myself -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:29:03: <ais523> perhaps -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:29:16: <ais523> there are so many restrictions on our hardware fix impl that I'm not at all convinced it's useful -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:29:34: <ais523> no parallelism anywhere near it, mostly -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:29:51: <ais523> also, you can't nest fix inside fix; it's possible to design circuitry so you could, but it'd be much less efficient so we don't -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:30:14: <ais523> (fix \f.\x.(f(x)||skip) cannot be implemented in hardware with the techniques we're using) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:30:44: <ais523> and it's a semantic restriction; it's implementing syntactically into the compiler because I couldn't figure out how it worked in the type system and how to modify the compiler accordingly -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:31:13: <ais523> well, we've already achieved more with it than anyone else has before -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:31:16: <ais523> apart from pipelining -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:31:20: <ais523> but I'm working on that atm -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:31:46: <ais523> "the catch"? in what? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:32:25: <ais523> there's a limited recursion value, because you run out of memory for a stack after a while -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:32:44: <ais523> although instead of having a global stack, which has terrible performance by hardware standards, we have a different stack for each variable in the program -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:32:56: <ais523> i.e. new allocates stacks rather than individual memory cells -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:33:27: <ais523> it's done by getting all the state in the program to refer to a different location depending on the recursion depth -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:33:32: <ais523> including state in control -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:33:50: <ais523> (i.e. remembering which branch of the ; you're in in \x.x;x) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:34:58: <ais523> λq.(λg.g(λx.g(qx)))(λb.(λk.((k(λu.u))(λl.((kb)(λt.(l(t skip)))))))(λv.λw.wv)) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:35:11: <ais523> took me so long to work out that expression :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:35:42: <ais523> it's of type (com^m -> com^n -> com)^(n^2) -> com, m <= 1 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:36:03: <ais523> the issue was finding an expression that had a side-condition like that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:36:13: <ais523> that's SCC type -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:36:33: <ais523> it was hard enough proving that the type system was even decidable in the absence of polymorphism -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:36:42: <ais523> it is, but it's nontrivial enough to see that that we got a paper out of it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:36:47: <ais523> together with the type system transformations -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:37:35: <ais523> this is arguably a deficiency of the type system, due to using (\v.\w.wv) in two unrelated contexts that just happen to have similar types -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:37:46: <ais523> I'm not convinced that ML lets you do that either, though -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:37:52: <ais523> (Anarchy would!) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:40:29: <ais523> it's just you -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:40:38: <ais523> its semantics are almost identical to algol 60's -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:40:52: <ais523> allowing for the difference in syntax -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:41:03: <ais523> which isn't even that different; they both work on the same principle, just use different names for things -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:41:57: <ais523> oh, and algol 60 doesn't have || -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:42:02: <ais523> the file extension should really be .ica rather than .ia -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:42:12: <ais523> but what happened was that I was using .ica and my supervisor was using .ia -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:42:20: <ais523> and we had to standardise on one eventually -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:42:22: <ais523> besides, .ia looks better -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:42:44: <ais523> well we can't change it /now/ :P -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:44:00: <ais523> that was a crazy idea that my supervisor said -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:44:16: <ais523> he was talking to someone else, and they decided it would be worthwhile for the compiler, and might even replace pipelining -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:44:20: <ais523> and I had to tell them why they were completely wrong -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:44:28: <ais523> they'd basically discovered common subexpression elimination -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:44:32: <elliott> ais523: haha -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:44:35: <ais523> and confused it with call-by-need -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:45:07: <ais523> although, "parallel call-by-need" or whatever it's called could be worthwhile -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:45:20: <ais523> we discovered that it's possible via a source-level transformation, though -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:46:16: <ais523> basically, whenever you determine the value of a lambda variable in a particular scope, you start specializing everything in that scope that uses the variable, in the background -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:46:28: <ais523> and then when it goes out of scope, kill the specializations -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:46:40: <ais523> and return to the original -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:46:59: <ais523> elliott: well, think of it this way: \x.print(x+1);print(x+1) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:47:25: <ais523> as soon as that's called, x gets a value, x+1 gets specialized in the background (i.e. only executed once), and you end up printing the sum twice while only calculating it once -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:48:16: <ais523> the similarity with common subexpression elimination comes when you realise that's equivalent to \x.new y := x+1 in print(!y);print(!y), with a backgrounded initialization of y -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:48:25: <ais523> (important if print takes some time to set up before it asks for !y's value) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:49:09: <ais523> anyway, we realised that in the absence of side-effects, background-calculating things didn't actually cost anything at all -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:49:38: <ais523> not even in the need to be able to kill the calculation halfway through, because we can use the same circuitry for that as we do for the global reset -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:49:52: <ais523> (which is necessary so that we don't end up with multiple instruction pointers at power on) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:51:06: <ais523> no, but if we do it, it'll be as a source-level translation anyway -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:51:17: <ais523> together with extra support for a one-way parallel composition -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:51:48: <ais523> yes, of course -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:52:13: <ais523> why do you think that quickstart.txt contains detailed notes on which things to click in Quartus II to get it working properly? or have you not read that? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:53:40: <ais523> someone who's apparently really important came round, and we showed him a recursive memoized Fibonacci that displayed its result in hex on some seven-segment displays -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:53:44: <ais523> running on an actual FPGA -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:54:09: <ais523> I wasn't there at the time -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:54:12: <ais523> so I don't know -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:54:25: <ais523> anyway, the funny thing was that he was giving a seminar, and I was pretty much forced to attend -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:54:35: <ais523> but by the time I got there, the whole room was full and there was no room for me, so I didn't -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:54:42: <ais523> and it seems the same threat had gone out to the whole department -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:55:03: <ais523> it's an xor, isn't it? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:55:13: <elliott> ais523: no -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:55:23: <elliott> ais523: the idea is that you get to pick whether (P & ~Q) or (~P & Q) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:55:42: <ais523> elliott: clearly that requires state :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:55:47: <elliott> ais523: well, it's like linear logic, sort of -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:55:56: <ais523> not really -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:56:23: <ais523> p :- \+ q_mem, assertz(p_mem). q :- \+ p_mem, assertz(q_mem). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:56:41: <elliott> ais523: heh -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:56:51: <ais523> it's much clearer in Prolog :P -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:58:42: <ais523> elliott: something like "X=p" and "X=q" in Prolog? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:58:59: <ais523> either is true, but not if you use them both in the same scope -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:59:04: <elliott> ais523: yes, similar -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:59:44: <ais523> elliott: (p, q)? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:59:47: <ais523> in Verity? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:03:59:59: <ais523> you can't use p and q at the same time -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:00:13: <ais523> the type system forces it, linear-logic-style -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:01:54: <ais523> I don't know anything about that syntax for linear logic -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:02:00: <ais523> other than recognising it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:03:05: <ais523> "⊗" is typically pronounced as "tensor" regardless of what it actually means -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:04:37: <ais523> affine type systems, on the other hand, I'm happy with /those/ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:04:48: <ais523> (an affine type system is like a linear one, except it allows you to not use a variable if you don't want to) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:05:40: <ais523> anyway, -> is affine in SCI and Verity -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:05:59: <ais523> (and tuple formation is non-affine, which is why it has the restriction that you can only use one side at a time; so that the hardware itself ends up used in an affine way) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:12:00: <elliott> it sounds like shachaf has an affinity for ais523's type system -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:12:13: <ais523> don't make this into a pun thread :( -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:13:51: <elliott> ais523: come on that one was awful -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:14:19: <ais523> maybe if I ignore them they'll go away? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:15:08: <elliott> ais523: careful, if you start ignoring everyone you might incur some unwanted affines you have to pay -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:17:33: <ais523> shachaf: just use a stride? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:17:45: <ais523> have a pointer and add the width of a row to it each time round the loop -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:17:55: <ais523> probably not cache-efficient, but I don't think there is a cache-efficient way to do that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:18:14: <shachaf> ais523: Right, I was looking for something more cache-efficient. :-) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:18:30: <ais523> but how can there be one? the stuff you're looking for is not together in memory -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:18:39: <ais523> I guess you could use a GPU, where you manage the caches yourself? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:18:43: <shachaf> ais523: I know. :-( -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:19:09: <ais523> so that you only incure the cache-inefficiency penalty once? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:19:24: <ais523> elliott: interleaving is nearly always a bad idea cache-wise -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:19:30: <ais523> no matter what you're interleaving or why -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:19:51: <elliott> ais523: OK, /fine/, buy two-dimensional memory and store the row-major stuff /behind/ the column-major stuff -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:19:53: <ais523> unless, on a CPU, the values you're interleaving would always be accessed together -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:20:09: <ais523> dual-layer memory? like a DVD? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:21:29: <ais523> shachaf: I gave a lecture partly about doing that efficiently -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:21:44: <ais523> because the person who was meant to give it booked a plane in the morning rather than the afternoon -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:22:02: <ais523> (because he'd tried to book one in the afternoon, been offered one in the morning instead, and didn't check to make sure it was at the time he requested) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:23:17: <ais523> the funny thing is, that over half the matrix transpose stuff had been made moot since the year before -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:23:23: <ais523> because GPUs had got better at accessing device memory -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:04:32:07: <elliott> ais523: "We have to write out binary data, so we use the writeFile defined in Data.ByteString.Char8, which operates on ByteStrings. This is why we need to convert our String to a ByteString first using B.pack." -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:05:09:02: <ais523> a GPU can transpose matrices at over 60GBps -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:05:23:41: <elliott> ais523: -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:05:23:57: <ais523> not sure -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:05:24:01: <ais523> haven't tried -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:05:24:04: <ais523> but I don't think it's that fast -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:17:38: <ais523> elliott: I think you can also appeal to arbcom, in the case of new evidence, or simply nobody understanding the previous verdict -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:18:30: <elliott> ais523: yep, but the higher authority is explicitly jimbo -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:25:03: <ais523> shachaf: needs more rvalue references -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:25:07: * ais523 has not looked at the code -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:29:03: <shachaf> ais523: Would you look at the code if it was C? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:29:44: <ais523> no -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:30:00: <ais523> elliott: *(c?a:b) = 0 is valid C -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:30:10: <ais523> in C++, you don't need the * if a and b are lvalue references -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:30:14: <ais523> elliott: "deek-stra" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:30:20: <elliott> ais523: are you sure? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:30:25: <ais523> reasonably -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:30:33: <ais523> oh, that's the same thing -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:30:36: <ais523> maybe not -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:30:41: <ais523> perhaps that's right -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:31:09: <elliott> <ais523> in C++, you don't need the * if a and b are lvalue references -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:31:33: <ais523> seriously? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:31:37: <ais523> !help languages -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:32:04: <ais523> !cxx int a,b,c=0; (c?a:b)=1; cout >> a >> endl; -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:32:19: <ais523> !cxx int a,b,c=0; (c?a:b)=1; -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:32:24: <ais523> EgoBot: 'twould be nice if you'd tell us /why/ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:32:29: <ais523> hmm -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:32:47: <ais523> hahahaha -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:32:50: <ais523> wtf? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:33:20: <ais523> !cxx int a,b,c = 0; (c?a:b)=1; std::cout << a << std::endl; -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:33:35: <ais523> but I retyped that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:33:52: <ais523> !cxx int a,b,c = 0; std::cout << a << std::endl; -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:33:58: <elliott> also, why was shachaf's valid but not ais523's? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:34:00: <ais523> (retyped again just to make sure) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:34:00: <elliott> ais523: you idiot -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:34:02: <elliott> <ais523> !cxx int a,b,c = 0; (c?a:b)=1; std::cout << a << std::endl; -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:34:22: <ais523> oh, a isn't initialized, and b is getting assigned to -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:34:44: <ais523> so why is uninitialized memory consistently 32767, I wonder? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:34:49: <elliott> ais523: UML, presumably -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:35:08: <elliott> ais523: it's effectively a clean-booted Linux system every command -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:35:17: <ais523> but why not 0? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:36:07: <elliott> ais523: since when is unininitialised memory usually 0? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:36:25: <ais523> it's more often 0 than anything else -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:36:36: <ais523> or some sentinel value (32767 is not a good sentinel value) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:06:42:24: <elliott> I wonder if ais523 is not saying "jif" so that I keep talking to him. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:07:01:41: <elliott> ais523: Hey, should I sleep? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:07:01:54: <shachaf> <ais523> yes -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:07:01:57: <ais523> at some point -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:07:02:04: <ais523> you don't seem as tired as last time you asked that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:07:02:20: <ais523> depends on when you want to wake up -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:07:12:50: <elliott> Hey ais523, should I sleep? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:07:13:14: <ais523> elliott: can you not make your own mind up, this time? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:07:13:24: <ais523> also, quotes are {{{ }}}, or you're insufficiently Agoran -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:07:38:59: <elliott> ais523: Should I __ __ _____? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:07:39:18: <ais523> elliott: you could ask zzo38 to take your horoscope again -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:07:39:57: <ais523> you know that infinitely redirecting website? I got a reply back saying it was working yesterday -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:07:41:23: <elliott> ais523: problem solved, then -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:07:42:09: <ais523> zzo38: I imagine they're the same as last time -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:07:46:33: <elliott> ais523: USELESS TRIVIUM OF THE DAY: apparently, WMF developers aren't called developers any more -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:07:46:51: <ais523> heh -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:08:19:30: <ais523> augur: "sqort" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:08:19:41: <ais523> your typo fix contains a typo of its own -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:08:19:51: <augur> ais523: :( -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:10:16:12: -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:11:09:23: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:11:24:44: <ais523> kmc: is that a statement about in general? or just in Android? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:11:28:39: <kmc> ais523, it's true in general that you have few guarantees about wchar_t -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:11:59:43: <oerjan> <elliott> ais523: well, it's like linear logic, sort of -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:12:05:40: -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:23:05:36: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:23:25:31: <ais523> ooh, Yahoo! Mail's POP thing started working again -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:23:25:35: <ais523> 187 new emails! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:23:25:46: <pikhq_> ais523: ... You still have Yahoo! Mail? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:23:26:00: <ais523> pikhq_: "still"? I joined it relatively recently -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:23:26:22: <ais523> oerjan: actually, few are, I don't receive much spam on that account -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:23:26:25: <pikhq_> I see ais523 is computing like it's 1998. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:23:26:29: <ais523> and the spam filter has more false-positives than true positives -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:23:26:42: <ais523> pikhq_: I distrust them the least out of the three major webmail providers -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:23:28:08: <ais523> pikhq_: indeed, and I don't use it for long-term storage of anything -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:23:28:09: <ais523> just as a spool -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:23:30:12: <ais523> isn't the /main/ purpose of monad tutorials to annoy elliott? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-14.txt:23:30:44: <oerjan> ais523: shhh, that's secret! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:03:13:42: <ais523> I'm not convinced the patent on tapping is enforceable anyway -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:03:13:45: <ais523> kmc: in the US, yes -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:03:14:00: <ais523> but the fact that it exists is sufficient to let their lawyers scare people -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:07:18:26: <ais523> since when do we get spambots in /here/? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:07:34:07: <Sgeo> ais523, I've been here for a while. I'm basically a spambot for PSOX. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:07:35:02: <ais523> I thought we mocked that out of you -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:07:39:02: -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:07:53:36: <fizzie> @tell ais523 Maybe the spammers have been discouraged by problems with spamming the new wiki, and have decided to bring it here instead. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:09:12:13: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:09:28:48: <ais523> zzo38: what computational class is bLOOP? Do you know? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:09:28:48: <lambdabot> ais523: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:09:28:52: <ais523> @messages -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:09:30:23: <zzo38> ais523: If you mean BlooP, then yes I know, but I don't know what it is called. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:09:30:44: <ais523> yes, that's what I meant -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:09:30:46: <ais523> and, ah, OK -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:09:30:53: <ais523> I sort-of know what class it is too, but don't know the name either -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:11:23:22: -!- ais523 has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:11:33:35: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:11:55:57: <oerjan> <ais523> zzo38: what computational class is bLOOP? Do you know? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:12:04:08: <ais523> unary output is easy :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:12:15:24: <ais523> oerjan: hmm, that decimal conversion code looks neater than mine -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:12:15:55: <ais523> where's the division by 10 done? I can't even see a constant 10 in there anywhere -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:12:17:45: <oerjan> ais523: the deepest (!~:^) for the digit list applies an increment to the higher level digits -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:12:21:27: -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:12:33:42: <oerjan> as ais523 alluded to, you usually want to do division by 10. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:12:45:36: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:12:47:45: <oerjan> ais523: see logs -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:12:48:06: * ais523 looks -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:12:49:18: <ais523> ah, right, it's a decimal increment -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:12:51:10: <ais523> 10 is ::*:*:**, right? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:12:52:31: <ais523> err, right, it is -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:12:52:51: <ais523> or alternatively :*::*:** -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:12:53:05: <ais523> actually, no, I think your 10 is also a 9 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:12:53:28: <ais523> ^ul (a)::*:*:**S(b):::**::***S(c):*::*:**S -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:12:53:48: <ais523> OK, both our 10s are correct -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:12:53:55: <ais523> oh, yours is 3*3+1 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:12:54:04: <ais523> and mine is 2*(2*2+1) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:12:54:28: <ais523> at least mine's shorter :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:12:55:20: <ais523> yes -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:13:02:51: <ais523> underload -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:13:02:56: <ais523> http://esolangs.org/wiki/Underload -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-15.txt:13:38:01: -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:02:33:44: <elliott> @ask ais523 is http://esolangs.org/wiki/Wiki_Cyclic_Tag#MediaWiki_Interpreter meant to look like that? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:02:34:24: <elliott> @tell ais523 Also, "The above with comments removed for clarity:" I don't think you understand the purpose of comments. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:09:33:28: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:09:59:26: <ais523> both! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:09:59:26: <lambdabot> ais523: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:09:59:30: <ais523> @messages -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:10:01:25: <ais523> @tell elliott yes, it is meant to look at that, and the implementation of the interpreter puts junk comments in its output, so removing them does indeed make it clearer -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:10:01:32: <ais523> @tell elliott *like -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:10:59:29: <ais523> "random access ROM"? so it's both ROM and RAM /simultaneously/? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:11:00:37: * ais523 notes that RAM is a bit of a weird name for what it's usually used for -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:11:04:38: <Madoka-Kaname> ais523, it's ROM that can be randomly accessed. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:11:42:21: <ais523> btw, for fun, I tried reading the EULA of some shovelware games that came with Windows when I bought the computer -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:11:42:28: <ais523> (didn't actually /accept/ it, of course) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:11:42:43: <ais523> among other things, it allowed them to modify it at any time simply by posting that they were doing so on their website -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:11:42:50: <ais523> and disallowed you from uninstalling the software -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:11:42:59: <ais523> I'd be pretty surprised if it were enforceable… -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:12:03:53: <ais523> oerjan: they also disallowed you directly or indirectly removing bits of it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:12:09:21: <ais523> zzo38: it did, but it wanted you to accept the EULA before doing anything but putting up an EULA acceptance dialog -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:12:10:46: <ais523> RocketJSquirrel: re the topic, we really need to start an esolang programmer interviews section -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:12:10:55: <ais523> even if they weren't being interviewed about esolangs -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:12:13:29: <ais523> also, I'm having problems trying to work out who was trolling in that interview -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:12:13:31: <ais523> possibly both of you -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:12:16:55: <ais523> `pastlog <oerjan>.*\?$ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:12:17:34: <ais523> `pastlog <oerjan>.*\?$ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:12:18:04: <ais523> that was 2009 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:13:55:37: <ais523> do you have zlib installed? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:13:55:50: <ais523> and if so, is it looking at the right headers to find it? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:14:51:18: <RocketJSquirrel> <ais523> also, I'm having problems trying to work out who was trolling in that interview // I believe the only valid answer is "both of us" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:14:51:39: <ais523> I think so, indeed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:16:30:29: <RocketJSquirrel> ais523: Also, are you volunteering to be interviewer? X-D -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:16:30:51: <ais523> I'm not sure, but probably not -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:16:31:10: <ais523> I was more referencing that Keymaker and I had been interviewed too -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:17:10:37: <ais523> Phantom_Hoover: isn't the whole /point/ that he's white and English and tries to emphasise that he isn't at every opportunity? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:17:12:56: <ais523> that's the main defining feature of his comedy -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:17:31:09: <Vorpal> (I guess I should highlight ais523 for that question) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:17:31:59: <ais523> Vorpal: there have been debates over the definition -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:17:32:15: <ais523> there's a definition that people came up with at a roguelike conference, but it's generally considered imperfect -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:17:33:02: <Vorpal> ais523, got a link or anything useful for googling that? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:17:33:52: <ais523> http://roguebasin.roguelikedevelopment.org/index.php/Berlin_Interpretation -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:17:35:46: <Vorpal> ais523, hm do you know any game you would consider rogue like that isn't turn based? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:17:36:12: <ais523> Spelunky? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:17:36:19: <ais523> I've often wished it were turn-based, though -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:17:36:26: <ais523> which is surprising given that it's a platformer -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:17:36:39: <ais523> as well as a roguelike -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:17:37:08: <ais523> everything pauses when you're not moving -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:17:37:18: <ais523> like world 4 of Braid -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:17:57:13: <ais523> Vorpal: you might also be interested in http://roguebasin.roguelikedevelopment.org/index.php?title=What_a_roguelike_is -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:17:57:26: <ais523> and ADOM is a really quest-heavy roguelike -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:17:57:58: <ais523> ADOM is somewhat spoiler-heavy -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:17:58:04: <ais523> also, closed-source -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:17:58:35: <Vorpal> ais523, anyway a rogue like definitely doesn't need ASCII graphics. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:17:58:40: <ais523> indeed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:17:58:46: <ais523> it doesn't need any single one of the factors -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:17:58:57: <ais523> oh, /that/ needs ASCII graphics ;) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:17:59:02: <ais523> (or at least, a better camera angle) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:18:00:51: <Vorpal> ais523, I can't think of a rogue like without at least an option for permadeath though -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:18:01:43: <ais523> choose your own adventure books are typically second person -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:18:07:55: <ais523> Vorpal: Spelunky doesn't have hunger, but sometimes an area you thought was safe isn't (slow-moving monster catches up to you, etc) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:18:08:03: -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:20:22:05: <elliott> 16:30:51: <ais523> I'm not sure, but probably not -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:20:22:05: <elliott> 16:31:10: <ais523> I was more referencing that Keymaker and I had been interviewed too -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-16.txt:20:23:54: <elliott> RocketJSquirrel: http://danieltemkin.com/blog/post/Interview-with-Keymaker.aspx http://danieltemkin.com/blog/post/Interview-with-ais523.aspx -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-17.txt:19:34:54: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-17.txt:19:41:23: <ais523> hi -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-17.txt:21:52:09: <ais523> ooh, reading the diff algo you linked me to here, and I think I see where this is going -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-17.txt:21:52:32: <ais523> previous algorithm's equivalent to Dijkstra's in state space, and it's doing A* or an equivalent instead -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-17.txt:21:53:33: <ais523> huh, the example code is in Pascal -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-17.txt:21:53:45: <ais523> with operators replaced with mathematical notation, the same way papers sometimes do for Haskell -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-17.txt:21:56:17: <ais523> Phantom_Hoover: please tell me that program has a filename clash with the game Pacman ;) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-17.txt:22:25:42: -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-17.txt:22:42:23: <zzo38> ais523: WEB replaces some Pascal operators with mathematical notations, but it also includes support for named chunks, pool strings, and octal and hexadecimal constants. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:15:14:23: <nortti> it has been deleted by ais523. Does anyone know what it contained? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:18:52:34: <elliott> @ask ais523 Is there any reason not to enable moves for unregistered users on the wiki? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:24:52: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:25:02: <elliott> hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:28:51: <ais523> hi elliott -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:28:51: <lambdabot> ais523: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:28:55: <ais523> @messages -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:29:34: <ais523> elliott: it depends on if you expect we'll get vandals; moves can't be fully reversed by a non-admin, so the reason they're usually disallowed is to prevent vandalism that's disproportionately hard to revert -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:29:39: <elliott> ais523: (context: the Basic Input/Output Commander did a copy-paste-move to a new name, and I had to learn how to do a history merge) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:29:40: <ais523> if you don't expect anyone to try that, no reason not to -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:30:37: <ais523> the method used to be to delete the new name, rename the old name to the new name, undelete the new name, revert to the revision that's meant to be top -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:30:45: <ais523> elliott: hahaha -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:30:47: <elliott> ais523: that still is the method -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:31:02: <ais523> `addquote <elliott> then they edited their own talk page comments after someone replied to it, and edited /the replier's comment/ so that it made sense in context -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:31:09: <ais523> elliott: well, you've been able to combine the rename and delete for ages -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:31:28: <ais523> and around when I left Wikipedia there were rumours that the devs were writing a less awkward way to histmerge and histsplit -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:31:31: <ais523> looks like that fell through -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:31:33: <ais523> `quote -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:31:34: <ais523> `quote -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:31:34: <elliott> ais523: (their edits were limited to changing the language to the new name, but since they admitted the language changed quite a bit since renaming, it's ridiculous) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:31:36: <ais523> `quote -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:31:37: <ais523> `quote -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:31:39: <ais523> `quote -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:32:08: <ais523> hmm, I don't get 27 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:32:18: <ais523> the fungot quote is yet again good -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:32:19: <fungot> ais523: syntax-rules is fairly easy -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:32:21: <ais523> and I got 5 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:32:27: <oerjan> ais523: it's part of a series -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:32:28: <ais523> and I got 5615, 276, 579, 120, 27 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:32:40: <ais523> oerjan: indeed, but it isn't a /good/ series -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:32:54: <elliott> ais523: see 14, 15, 20-27 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:33:51: <ais523> 276 seems out of place because RocketJSquirrel /isn't/ blond, IIRC -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:33:55: <ais523> unless it's a weird definition of blond -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:35:52: <ais523> elliott: seems to also require an italicised word -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:37:55: <elliott> <ais523> elliott: it depends on if you expect we'll get vandals; moves can't be fully reversed by a non-admin, so the reason they're usually disallowed is to prevent vandalism that's disproportionately hard to revert -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:38:06: <elliott> ais523: I suppose there's unlikely to be page-move spambots :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:38:27: <ais523> elliott: indeed, unless they're Esolang-specific -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:50:51: <ais523> anyway, bleh at this binary diff thing -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:51:08: <ais523> the algorithm as written is still far too slow, also GNU diff doesn't use it despite claiming to -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:52:10: <elliott> ais523: Did you try bps? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:52:32: <ais523> I have to write this from scratch, pretty much, NHPL isn't compatible with anything -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:52:42: <ais523> /possibly/ two-clause BSD, but I'm not even sure on that one -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:53:36: <elliott> ais523: Yes, and? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:54:48: <ais523> I've actually been considering doing something that fits with the format -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:55:16: <ais523> by checking what the fixed-length bits and variable-length bits are, and just XORing and RLEing the fixed-length bits -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:55:23: <ais523> and doing something clever with the variable-length bits -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:58:06: <ais523> elliott: oh, my patch format is that too -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:58:12: <ais523> the problem is generating the patch effiicently in the first plcae -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:58:14: <ais523> *place -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:58:46: <ais523> my format uses two bits for command, six for run length -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:59:20: <ais523> the commands are copy, insert, delete, and bignum (for run lengths larger than 63; its runlength is multiplied by 64 and added to the runlength of the next command) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:59:28: <ais523> and insert is followed by the individual bytes to insert -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:21:59:53: <ais523> I can generate that format reasonably simply, but not efficiently; O(sn) is too slow in practice -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:22:03:54: <elliott> ais523: meh, that's more complicated than bps :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:22:04:18: <ais523> elliott: format simplicity is completely missing the point, anyway -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:22:04:25: <ais523> it's efficiency in finding the diff -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:22:05:06: <ais523> GNU diff seems to do something crazy involving multiple bisections, and finding lines unique to one side or other on the basis that they can't match anything -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:22:06:08: <ais523> and it's way faster than my program, even if I convert all the bytes to hex and put a different one on each line, so it's a fair comparison -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:22:06:22: <pikhq_> ais523: It's quite advantageous for people implementing a patch applier. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:22:06:42: <ais523> pikhq_: well, right, and I'd need that too -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:22:06:54: <ais523> but the patch applier is going to be O(n) with any sane patch format, unless it's heavily compressed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:22:07:04: <ais523> so it's the patch determiner I'm worried about the efficiency of -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:22:26:47: <elliott> ais523: by the way, I edited two MediaWiki-namespace pages today -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:23:00:17: <elliott> ais523: guess what the norwegian wikipedia's main page is? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:23:00:33: <ais523> elliott: a matrix of solidity? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:23:00:43: <elliott> ais523: no, Portal:[en:main -> no] -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:23:01:00: <ais523> elliott: ah, great :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:23:02:04: <elliott> ais523: erm, Portal:[en:Home -> no] actually -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:23:02:56: <ais523> this is beginning to sound like a nomic -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:23:39:52: <elliott> ais523: how many people does 82.132.*.* affect? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:23:40:19: <ais523> elliott: not sure, let me rDNS it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:23:41:26: <ais523> 82.132.192.0/18, more specifically, is O2 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:23:41:28: <ais523> the UK ISP -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:23:42:01: <elliott> ais523: hmm. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:23:42:09: <ais523> not sure if blocking O2 is reasonable, even if most british esolangers use Virgin Media -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:23:42:10: <ais523> elliott: I think so! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:23:42:28: <elliott> ais523: FSVO "most" equal to 2? :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:23:42:36: <ais523> and other people too, because it was wider than just the O2 range -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:23:42:48: <elliott> ais523: yes, but nobody cares about croatia. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:23:47:10: <elliott> ais523: Shrooms man? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-18.txt:23:47:21: <ais523> no! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:00:33:01: <ais523> what's HashBot trying to do anyway? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:00:33:14: <ais523> and why would someone spam #esoteric from a phone? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:00:33:26: <ais523> if it dodges the ban, someone ctcp version it next time it's here -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:00:33:36: <elliott> ais523: it's not a phone -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:00:33:54: <ais523> elliott: it's in the O2 range inside that, though -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:00:33:59: <elliott> ais523: oh, it is? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:00:34:00: <ais523> and you were on a phon when you were there -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:00:34:03: <ais523> *phone -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:00:34:04: <ais523> yep -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:00:35:01: <ais523> yep -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:00:35:19: <ais523> elliott: no, the narrow range too -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:00:39:16: <ais523> itidus21: that'd be SendQ exceeded -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:00:39:32: <ais523> the difference is that excess flood is if you're sending too much for the server, and sendq is if you're trying to make the server send too much back to you -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:00:57:19: <elliott> ais523: you're not meant to be able to move the edit form outside of the content div by supplying MediaWiki with some wikitext to preview, right...? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:00:57:36: <ais523> elliott: not sure, but I guess not -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:01:17:27: -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:07:32:44: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:07:37:25: <elliott> hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:07:37:36: <ais523> hi elliott -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:07:37:45: <ais523> that sounds worrying -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:07:37:52: <ais523> I haven't even been asleep since then! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:07:38:34: <ais523> actually, I was reading the history in my RSS reader -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:07:38:37: <ais523> which is normally how I read Esolang -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:07:40:20: <elliott> ais523 doesn't know the crime of being wikipsychic :'( -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:07:40:54: <ais523> it was pretty similar on Wikipedia, btw; things rarely took me by surprise because I had a habit of reading the relevant discussion pages -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:07:41:05: <ais523> although obviously I couldn't read every edit to the whole wiki -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:07:45:16: <ais523> it's only Esolang, I don't really care -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:07:45:23: <ais523> well, I sort-of do, but most of my arguments don't apply -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:07:46:54: <ais523> hmm… "don't really" is not actually an absolute opposite of "really" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:07:51:21: <ais523> it is pretty entertaining, indeed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:07:51:29: <ais523> although I don't think that's its intended purpose -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:07:52:24: <ais523> clearly you need Jimbo and ArbCom to ban the same person simultaneously and independently -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:07:52:32: <ais523> although I suspect that would simply just leave them with no appeals at all -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:07:57:40: <ais523> "There are 4,507 registered users, but most of them are spambots." -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:07:58:19: <ais523> elliott: hmm, I remember the case where there were community sanctions on someone, and arbcom agreed with them, then later converted them to a simple ban because nobody could figure out what they meant -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:07:59:01: <elliott> ais523: yes, i realise that a 1:4 article:user ratio would be rather unlikely :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:07:59:16: <ais523> I was just amused at the statistic -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:01:47: <elliott> ais523: hey, you have an anonymised google: are we really the top result for "Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity."? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:02:15: <ais523> well, it's still probably going to try to geolocate me -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:02:45: <ais523> but we are, indeed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:03:07: <ais523> a page about Graue is third, and the logs of this channel are fourth -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:03:21: <ais523> none of the other results on that page look relevant -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:03:26: <ais523> this is without quotes, btw -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:03:32: <ais523> elliott: yes, I guessed it was autogenerated -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:03:42: <ais523> btw, have you looked at the link in the topic? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:03:46: <ais523> not the logs link, the other one -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:04:01: <ais523> but I have -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:04:03: <ais523> and it isn't -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:05:47: <ais523> it had been there for a while -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:06:02: <ais523> and I trust Gregor to that extent -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:06:20: <ais523> I mean, he could just as easily put warez and pornography on codu.org -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:06:25: <ais523> well, maybe not quite as easily -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:12:01: <elliott> ais523: btw, *did* you have any comments on the featured language process, or are you still reading the changes? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:12:16: <ais523> elliott: meh -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:12:50: <elliott> ais523: i made the best of a bad situation :P -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:13:27: <elliott> ais523: btw, you need to propose [[Deadfish]] as a candidate. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:13:53: <ais523> no! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:14:25: <elliott> ais523: what?! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:14:54: <ais523> yes! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:15:05: <ais523> are /you/ saying @lang isn't the greatest programming language ever designed? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:15:16: -!- ais523 has parted #esoteric ("before someone mentions Feather"). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:15:55: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:08:16:13: <elliott> ais523: anyway, no, @lang is just the least _sucky_ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:27:59: <elliott> ais523: helpful tip to write a wikipedia article about yourself: make three copies of the exact same article with different content, one of which will be deleted as copyvio, contest the speedying of only one of the remaining ones, then post it as a new section on [[Talk:Main Page]] once they get deleted -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:28:25: <ais523> I don't think that would work :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:28:43: <ais523> did someone just try that on Wikipedia? or on Esolang? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:29:24: <ais523> elliott: it's usual to send three scary warnings in response to that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:29:33: <ais523> I'm not sure if it's /correct/, or even if there's a point -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:29:35: <ais523> but it's usual -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:29:45: <ais523> yes but it's like three clicks in Twinkle! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:31:29: <ais523> there is something kind of horrifyingly awesome about that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:31:38: <ais523> lowercase p on "Main page"? wouldn't uppercase be better? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:31:55: <ais523> note that we'll still need a redirect from the old location pretty much forever -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:31:58: <elliott> ais523: the sidebar entry is "Main page", and the default community portal page was changed to [[Project:Community portal]] -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:32:17: <ais523> fair enough -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:32:39: <ais523> my suggestion on Wikipedia was "Portal:Main", but "Esolang:Main" doesn't make sense -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:33:04: <ais523> actually, my real preferred solution was to rename it to the null string -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:33:09: <ais523> but apparently MediaWiki doesn't support that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:33:48: <ais523> it's kind-of ugly even without the Esolang: -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:37:17: <ais523> and it fails with any other PHPSESSID? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:37:28: <ais523> or just redirects you to the correct one :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:37:28: <elliott> ais523: naturally; load.pl is a load balancer -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:37:35: <elliott> ais523: the PHPSESSID is the session of the proxy server -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:38:14: <ais523> elliott: gah, we have a debugger like that that we're using for our GPU programming -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:38:26: <ais523> only one person across the whole department can debug a GPU program at a time -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:38:43: <ais523> not a licensing restriction, it's a complicated technical restriction -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:38:56: <ais523> I guess you could use screen or something to do that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:43:10: <ais523> this gives you a perfect excuse to procrastinate! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:43:38: <ais523> elliott: oh, . is string concatenation there? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:43:49: <ais523> I thought it was method invocation for a moment -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:43:54: <ais523> which would have been awesome but worrying -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:44:24: <ais523> now I want a language that lets you call methods ? and isn't Smalltalk-like -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:44:33: <ais523> (doing it in Smalltalk is too easy) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:44:37: <ais523> I guess JavaScript does -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:45:03: <ais523> and Lua lets you define them, but I'm not sure offhand if there's any way to call them -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:53:08: -!- ais523 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:53:11: -!- ais523_ has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:53:45: -!- ais523_ is now known as ais523. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:53:48: <ais523> how can you tell? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:53:53: <elliott> ais523: http://conservapedia.com/Special:Version -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:54:03: <ais523> also, I'm guessing you somehow managed to make all links not show up? or edited them out of the page? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:57:43: <elliott> ais523: hey, when's Eurovision? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:57:53: <ais523> I don't know; Wikipedia probably does -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:57:55: <ais523> it's a good question -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:58:21: <ais523> 26 may is the final -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:58:26: <ais523> 22 and 24 may are the semifinals -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:58:29: <ais523> just looked it up -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:58:42: <elliott> ais523: Thanks, I was looking for a FINNISH QUALITY ANSWER though. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:58:53: <ais523> it's after NetHack Apocalypse Day, which I really need to prepare for -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:59:16: <ais523> elliott: it's a secret that isn't really all that secret, and I invented the name for it just now -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:59:25: <ais523> but we're planning it for april 1 so that nobody believes it when it happens -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:10:59:32: <ais523> and so that we can back out of it really easily -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:00:02: <ais523> (fun fact: you can back out of pretty much anything that isn't illegal if you do it on april 1) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:00:13: <elliott> ais523: nitrohack is being released as nethack 4.0.0? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:00:43: <ais523> yes, but it's more complex than that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:00:49: <ais523> and requires the coordination of quite a lot of people -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:00:57: <elliott> ais523: "...without the devteam's consent"? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:00:59: <ais523> well, 3 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:01:06: <ais523> but that's more than we managed last year -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:01:17: <ais523> I haven't even finished merging NiceHack yet, though -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:02:53: <ais523> silence of reading another window, pinging me helps if you want a quick answer -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:03:21: <ais523> and my solution, unlike daniel_t's, is to say that I'm supporting a small set of platforms to start with just to get something moving, and willing to expand as people willing to test and send in patches are found -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:03:37: <ais523> this viewpoint is actually probably equivalent to his, but less controversial -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:04:15: <ais523> oh, we're not getting their consent for this -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:04:41: <ais523> you know what we really need? someone at Debian to mistake it for not an april fool's thing and package it up -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:07:07: <ais523> they package INTERCAL! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:07:41: <ais523> and as long as it hits testing with the new major version, they can't subsequently reduce the major version number -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:07:55: <ais523> they'd either have to add a majorer version number to let them drop it back down to 3.4.3, or lie and call it 4.4.3 or something -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:08:02: <ais523> well, OK -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:10:19: <ais523> we might go onto a coup -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:10:24: <ais523> if the april 1 thing is well-received -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:12:51: <elliott> ais523: Can you fix this hook? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:13:03: <ais523> it's in PHP, so no -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:13:10: <ais523> not in my current state of tiredness -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:16:05: <elliott> ais523: tell past elliott he's a moron -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:16:30: <ais523> elliott: I'm no good at retroactive IRC -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:21:08: <ais523> for any particular reason? or by mistake? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:22:58: <elliott> ais523: oh dear, now I'm getting annoyed at /w/ URLs too -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:38:11: <ais523> arguments in a different order, perhaps? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:39:30: <ais523> they aren't really globals -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:40:16: <ais523> yep -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:41:50: <elliott> ais523: btw, the reason /wiki/ was redirecting to /wiki/Main_Page is that I configured nginx to do that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:47:31: <elliott> ais523: fizzie: group-ping -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:47:49: <ais523> pong -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:49:18: <ais523> hmm, interesting -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:50:45: <ais523> well, it's a channel that was spun off in order to deflect away offtopic material -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:50:55: <ais523> hmm, does #irp count along the same lines? it's basically just a honeypot for Reddit -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:51:23: <ais523> probably just #esoteric -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:51:31: <ais523> do we care about #esoteric-offtopic or #esoteric-blah? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:51:31: <elliott> hmm, it asks for your role in the project, and suggests you should be senior; if the URL is esolangs.org, that suggests ais523 should do it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:51:44: <elliott> ais523: i doubt it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:53:36: <elliott> ais523: oh dear, after all that effort, MediaWiki thwarts me -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:53:38: <ais523> exploration of insufficiently explored theories of programming language design -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:53:52: <ais523> I can make it sound relevant and ontopic when I need to! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:54:03: <ais523> can you patch that check out? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:54:29: <elliott> ais523: also, that's not relevant and on-topic, strictly -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:55:03: <ais523> perhaps -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:55:11: <ais523> I was thinking from the academic point of view -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:56:38: <ais523> elliott: you filling it out seems reasonable, as long as enough of the other people who help to run this channel agree -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:56:49: <ais523> based on their rules for who should be primary contact -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:56:59: <ais523> besides, it uses recaptcha -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:57:14: <elliott> ais523: err, I doubt someone who isn't an op would be considered a good contact -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:57:31: <ais523> oh dear… -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:57:36: <ais523> and yes, good point -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:57:53: <ais523> should probably be fizzie as senior op, then -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:58:06: <ais523> oerjan was opped recently enough that chanserv remembers whne it happened, as was I -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:58:11: <elliott> ais523: well, the thing is that they use the URL to verify the claim -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:58:54: <ais523> don't you need to be a server admin anyway, for the confirmation? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:59:11: <ais523> it's not completely implausible that a community might want separation of powers between their website and IRC channel, though -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:59:16: <elliott> ais523: I don't think it's a "put this HTML thing on your website" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:59:56: <elliott> ais523: it would be really convenient to own esoteric.<tld> for this... -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:11:59:59: <ais523> perhaps -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:00:19: <ais523> if there's a human involved, we can explain easily enough -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:01:09: <elliott> ais523: and yes, but this is /freenode/, that'll slow it down by ten years -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:01:50: <ais523> who runs the esolang mailing list on sange.fi? and does it still exist? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:04:06: <ais523> elliott: why? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:04:11: <ais523> it'd help avoid confusion -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:04:14: <elliott> ais523: because that defeats the whole point? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:04:19: <ais523> what whole point? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:04:30: <ais523> #esolang is probably a better name, come to think of it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:05:02: <ais523> well, esolang is a contraction for "esoteric language", and we thought the language was redundant as we're on Freenode -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:06:07: <ais523> elliott: I'm projecting -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:08:12: <elliott> ais523: I'm an op now, right? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:08:31: <ais523> too tired to consider the merits of opping or otherwise someone right now -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:08:41: <ais523> btw, you're starting to remind me uncomfortably of kerio -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:08:47: <shachaf> ais523: Making elliott an op would be the biggest mistake you could ever make. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:08:54: <elliott> ais523: excellent, the less thoughtful you are the more likely you'll op me -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:08:56: <ais523> who among other things keeps continuously nagging me to fill out GRFs for AceHack -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:09:17: <ais523> he /is/ opped in #acehack, but we have the settings such that he can't deal too much damage -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:09:28: <elliott> ais523: I thought AceHack was busy being deconstructed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:09:31: <ais523> group registration form -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:09:46: <ais523> elliott: it's being merged with nitrohack, which is typically discussed in #unnethack (and sometimes #acehack) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:09:55: <ais523> but channels all have their own communities -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:10:16: <ais523> #unnethack's become the de-facto channel for discussing variants as a set (as opposed to particular variants) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:10:49: <ais523> haha, there is, but nobody's there but kerio -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:11:10: <ais523> and #grunthack was created really recently, mostly to have a place to put the announcebot -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:11:33: <elliott> ais523: am I an op yet? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:12:08: <elliott> it says yes ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:12:15: <ais523> elliott: you can ask chanserv, probably faster than getting a response from me -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:12:21: <shachaf> ais523: Make elliott a nop. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:12:22: <ais523> shachaf: please tell me you just registered that :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:12:29: <elliott> but it also says ais523 has to make me into an op before i can use it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:12:53: <ais523> No match for "ISELLIOTTANOPYET.COM". -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:12:57: <shachaf> ais523: Nope, it's free. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:13:34: <ais523> `quote -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:13:36: <ais523> `quote -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:13:37: <ais523> `quote -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:13:39: <ais523> `quote -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:13:40: <ais523> `quote -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:13:47: <HackEgo> 92) <ais523> let's put that in the HackEgo quotes files, just to completely mystify anyone who looks back along them in the future -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:13:51: <ais523> shall I delete a good one to make room for it? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:13:55: <HackEgo> 449) <ais523> the thing about modern semiconductor design is, 0s are more powerful as 1s -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:14:06: <ais523> gah, I meant "than 1s" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:14:21: <ais523> OK, I agree with that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:14:26: <ais523> deleting 86, that is -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:15:00: <ais523> also, 92 is /my/ pet 825 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:15:07: <ais523> shachaf: it's numbered 825 now -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:15:37: <ais523> elliott: does that actually go back 105 revisions? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:15:42: <elliott> ais523: no, it goes back to revision 105 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:15:45: <ais523> ah, OK -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:16:39: <ais523> `touch UNDELETE.EXE -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:17:38: <ais523> `run echo now this file will be strangely hard to empty completely >> canary -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:17:44: <ais523> although not really /that/ hard -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:18:20: <ais523> fun fact: the only reason canary was empty beforehand was that it used to say that and someone decided to test it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:18:24: <ais523> (note: may not be a true fact) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:21:00: <ais523> `cat canary -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:21:17: <ais523> I think we need something in there about a canary's typical reaction to a cat (which is based on a cat's typical reaction to a canary) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:21:28: <ais523> `rm canary -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:21:36: <ais523> `cat canary -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:21:41: <ais523> still is -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:21:44: <ais523> can't delete canary :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:22:13: <ais523> `run rm canary && mkdir canary -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:22:19: <ais523> `cat canary -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:22:30: <ais523> huh? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:22:33: <elliott> ais523: hg doesn't track empty directories -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:22:49: <ais523> `cat foo -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:22:58: <ais523> awesome -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:23:35: <ais523> elliott: isn't he called RocketJSquirrel? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:23:39: <elliott> @tell Gregor http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2012-03-19#122213ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:23:43: * ais523 demands he changes back to Friendship -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:24:23: <ais523> I was wondering about doing that, but decided against it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:24:49: <shachaf> ais523: Is ais523 your real name? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:24:51: <ais523> you know that at least one of those is very likely to end up ending with no messages? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:24:57: <ais523> shachaf: what do you consider to be a real name? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:25:03: <elliott> ais523: the idea is that all of them get cleared -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:25:06: <shachaf> ais523: Or is your real name "(this is obviously not my real name)"? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:25:12: <shachaf> ais523: How should I know? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:25:16: <ais523> shachaf: that obviously isn't my real name -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:26:02: <ais523> did I say they were the same? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:26:28: <ais523> and did I say that you said that I said they were the same? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:27:13: <ais523> `pastlog you said that I said -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:27:17: <ais523> now we have to check! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:27:54: <ais523> shachaf: I don't think I've ever talked to you in not-public -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:28:05: <ais523> oh, apparently I have -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:28:12: <ais523> just the one line, though -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:28:18: <ais523> it was related to #vacuum -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:28:41: <ais523> gah, literal facepalm -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:29:10: <ais523> elliott: did you just tell shachaf to persuade me to go there without telling him what it was called? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:29:18: <ais523> because according to client history, he never mentioned the nam -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:29:20: <ais523> *name -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:29:24: <ais523> admittedly, that would be hilarious -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:29:28: <elliott> ais523: I have no idea what you're talking about. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:29:52: * ais523 is unsure if he wants to believe that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:30:17: <ais523> indeed it is registered; ChanServ wouldn't let me see its access list -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:30:24: <ais523> which implies that someone owns it to be able to configure it to do that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:31:22: <ais523> elliott: remember #<redacted>? it was agora-related, also it wasn't a cow, nor not a cow -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:31:42: <elliott> ais523: FUCK YOU RUINED MY FUCKING TOWER JEEZ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:31:47: <elliott> ais523: Does it start with an a and end with an oecabal? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:31:51: <ais523> yes -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:32:07: <elliott> ais523: apointlessshoecabal? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:32:07: <ais523> it's almost as locked-down as #vacuum nowadays -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:32:15: <ais523> perhaps -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:48:26: -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:49:26: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:51:20: <ais523> oh, btw, CFJ 2613 was awesome -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:51:28: <ais523> such a pity the judge didn't take it seriously -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:12:57:41: <oerjan> elliott: you do realize ais523 is also an op? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:08:56: <elliott> ais523: HE PROPOSED RELAXING THE POLICY -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:09:11: <ais523> elliott: calm down! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:09:31: <ais523> clearly, it should be [[Tanner L. Swett]] -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:10:48: <elliott> ais523: it would actually be [[Ivan Hope Stupidromannumerals]] -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:11:38: <ais523> wait, you mean it isn't his real name? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:15:47: * ais523 suggests an FAC -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:16:01: <elliott> ais523: /an/? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:16:05: <ais523> elliott: hmm, isn't the article about Graue at [[Catatonic Porpoise]] -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:16:10: <elliott> ais523: hey, you broke the rules! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:16:15: <ais523> elliott: "an" is correct if you don't expand the acronym -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:16:18: <ais523> and in what way? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:16:28: <elliott> ais523: oh, oops -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:16:33: <elliott> ais523: correction, I wrote the rules wrong -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:16:46: <ais523> so go fix them -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:17:05: <ais523> elliott: what did you intend to make a rule that you didn't? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:18:09: <ais523> elliott: oh, you did omit the signature; I went and edited the rules to require it when I made the suggestion >:) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:18:20: <elliott> oerjan: kick ais523, pls -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:18:45: <ais523> elliott: how else can someone quickly check that they haven't nominated a different language? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:18:52: <ais523> we can delete the sigs before judging -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:18:57: <elliott> ais523: but they could just fake a signature! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:20:20: <elliott> ais523: btw, since you weren't around for the discussion, I came up with this system so that (a) people didn't have to suggest things _regularly_ i.e. there's no point expiring something just because it was proposed and not chosen last $timespan, -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:20:48: <ais523> elliott: indeed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:21:03: <ais523> anyway, I think it's worth having all the paradigm classics featured that aren't brainfuck -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:21:33: <ais523> heh, indeed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:22:35: <elliott> ais523: I agree that paradigm classics should be featured, but I also think devoting the first like 7 timespans to the classics would be a bad idea -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:25:36: <elliott> ais523: oerjan: perhaps we should feature [[Esme]] sometime. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:32:48: -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:35:30: <oerjan> <elliott> ais523: oerjan: perhaps we should feature [[Esme]] sometime. <-- er.... -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:38:51: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:39:57: <ais523> not sure -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:40:03: <ais523> I'm not even convinced it was intended as a tarpit -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:40:16: <ais523> (especially given that it has several instructions that are clearly redundant, like i and v) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:40:26: <ais523> it was just intended as a functional language without lambda -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:40:31: <ais523> a job which it succeeds at admirably -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:43:10: <ais523> yep, and I might add a section on programming in it (or rather, relambda) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:47:29: <elliott> ais523: thanks for that fix, the process used to be on the featured languages page itsel -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:48:13: <ais523> have the Pirate Bay decided that what they're doing is actually illegal yet? or are they just wondering why the police keep trying to shut them down? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:49:27: <fizzie> ais523: "We think that the investigation is interesting considering nothing that TPB does is illegal." --2012-03-09 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:49:37: <ais523> and that's pretty recent -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:50:12: <elliott> ais523: btw, why is http://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Featured_languages empty? [[:///]] is in it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:50:13: <ais523> elliott: oh, I don't think they're doing anything illegal either; and yet people are trying so hard to get rid of them -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:50:43: <elliott> ais523: well, the torrents they offer nowadays are DHT-based. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:50:50: <ais523> that's bizarre -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:50:52: <elliott> ais523: you can't raid a distributed hash table. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:51:35: <elliott> ais523: if it matters, the category is from a template -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:51:45: <ais523> oh, that /might/ matter -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:51:49: <ais523> are you running the job queue? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:52:42: <ais523> it's normally the job queue that's responsible for category updates via templates -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:53:24: <ais523> fixed it, anyway, by null-editing the page -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:53:41: <ais523> (just load the edit view, then click "save changes" without doing anything) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:54:02: <ais523> (that regenerates the page in a stronger way than merely purging does) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:59:22: <elliott> ais523: Kick shachaf. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:13:59:41: <ais523> elliott: it was quite a good joke… -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:14:08:57: <elliott> ais523: Are you going to kick shachaf or not? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:14:18:46: <lambdabot> elliott said 1h 55m 5s ago: http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2012-03-19#122213ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:14:20:23: -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:14:27:33: <oerjan> 08:15:16: -!- ais523 has parted #esoteric ("before someone mentions Feather"). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:14:27:33: <oerjan> 08:15:55: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:15:59:10: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:16:34:30: <ais523> quintopia: ion: are you in the same class somehow? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-19.txt:16:35:40: -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:08:05:20: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:08:05:59: <elliott> hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:08:06:11: <ais523> hi elliott -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:08:06:27: <shachaf> `welcome ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:08:06:36: <HackEgo> ais523: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:08:08:30: <elliott> `unwelcome ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:08:09:06: <shachaf> "your not welcome in here, ais523" -- elliott "hi" elliott -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:08:09:46: <shachaf> ais523: Ban me from this channel! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:08:55:31: <elliott> shachaf: ais523: fizzie: pikhq_: ping -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:08:56:21: <ais523> checking -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:08:56:25: <ais523> no -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:08:56:49: <ais523> ah, it has loaded -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:08:56:51: <ais523> but pretty slowly -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:08:57:03: <ais523> and it's working now -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:08:57:25: <ais523> looks like it was some sort of DNS glitch -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:08:57:44: <ais523> try a couple of other servers -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:08:57:49: <ais523> DNS servers, that is -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:08:57:54: <ais523> dig @8.8.8.8, dig @4.2.2.1 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:08:58:43: <ais523> 8.8.8.8 (Google), gave me the right answer straight away, 4.2.2.1 (Level3) took a while then returned no IP -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:08:59:18: <ais523> <Level3> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 7188 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:09:08:36: <ais523> C++ has rather stricter rules on pointers than C does -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:09:08:45: <ais523> I'm not offhand sure whether it lets you cast anything into a void* or not -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:09:28:02: <elliott> ais523: holy crap, the categories list at the bottom of MediaWiki pages is in source order -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:09:28:09: <elliott> ais523: I assumed it'd sort them... -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:09:28:24: <ais523> it's more flexible this way, you can order them by hand -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:09:28:37: <ais523> presumably there's an AWB plugin for sorting them, and a huge row about whether people should use it or not -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:09:28:41: <elliott> ais523: how is that flexibility useful? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:09:28:50: <ais523> you are missing the point of MediaWiki! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:09:29:16: <ais523> I think it's used to put [[Category:Living people]] first, though -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:09:29:47: <elliott> ais523: IMO, that should be done by allowing you to establish relations between _categories_ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:09:30:26: <ais523> did you know that not only can you, in an article, choose where the category goes in the list of categories on the article, but also where the article goes in the list of articles on the category? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:09:32:59: <ais523> zzo38: indeed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:09:33:44: <elliott> ais523: speaking of bots, how hellish is pywikipediabot? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:09:34:22: <ais523> not as bad as rolling your own library, although last I looked it used scraping rather than the API -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:09:34:26: <ais523> perhaps it's been fixed to use the API since -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:09:37:41: <elliott> ais523: err, apparently [[Category:Living people]] exists only for BLP monitoring -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:09:37:54: <ais523> elliott: indeed, that's its purpose -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:09:38:06: <ais523> but it's so important when editing something -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:09:38:10: <ais523> by policy -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:09:38:30: <ais523> Wikipedia isn't really aimed at readers, because they don't make the decisions… -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:09:40:20: <ais523> yes! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:10:12:06: -!- ais523_ has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:10:23:07: -!- ais523_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:10:44:11: -!- ais523_ has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:10:44:37: <ais523_> !glogbot_ignore so am I online now? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:10:44:43: <ais523_> yay -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:10:44:52: <ais523_> (!glogbot_ignore: good ping, or the best ping?) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:10:46:52: <elliott> ais523_: no -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:10:47:28: <elliott> ais523_: Now, er, how much do you know about table styling? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:10:48:30: <ais523_> not a huge amount -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:10:55:06: <elliott> ais523_: by the way, I thought of an obvious criterion for the spam user deletion script I missed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:10:55:17: <ais523_> go on -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:10:55:41: <elliott> ais523_: "has an entry in the block log matching %spam%" (note: this is different from "is currently blocked with that entry") -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:10:55:57: <ais523_> ah, of course -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:10:56:08: <ais523_> what about "has a 24-year block"? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:10:56:21: <ais523_> for when the reason was typoed or not given? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:10:56:38: <ais523_> although you'll need to check fake-lament on that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:10:57:10: * ais523_ thinks it's vaguely weird to be on a wiki that's had exactly one vandal -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:10:58:06: <ais523_> no "spma" or "spa," or whatever? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:10:58:24: <elliott> ais523_: oh, probably (although not "spma", at least), but we can delete users manually after-the-fact -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:11:00:09: <elliott> ais523_: haha, wow: (show/hide) 06:13, 28 September 2005 Graue (Talk | contribs | block) blocked 69.50.165.186 (Talk) with an expiry time of 24 years (probably a spammer testing to see if shit gets deleted here) (unblock | change block) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:11:00:22: <elliott> ais523_: they were blocked for creating [[Esolang:Sandbox]] with "Hello" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:11:02:54: <elliott> ais523_: also, I'm wondering if lament-impersonator isn't actually lament themselves -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:11:04:30: <elliott> ais523_: it seems it happened when IRP was on reddit -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:11:14:41: <elliott> ais523_: wow, the query is really good now -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:11:15:41: <elliott> ais523_: (actually, I'm more surprised there were 3043 matches before adding the log entry criterion) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:11:16:18: <elliott> I get the feeling ais523_ isn't here -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:11:22:08: <elliott> ais523_: fun fact: nobody has ever been unblocked on esolang -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:11:40:41: <elliott> ais523: ais523_: another criterion I just thought of: only contribution is to own user or user talk page, which has been deleted -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:11:40:53: <elliott> ais523: ais523_: (keymaker has deleted lots, but never filled out a reason) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:12:02:33: <ais523_> I've been with students all this time -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:12:59:20: <ais523_> so, esolang idea inspired by one of my students' code: a language that ignores expressions -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:12:59:45: <ais523_> as in, it's vaguely C-like, but if(x>3) and if(y>4) mean the same thing -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:12:59:58: <ais523_> you can write conditionals, but not choose what they're conditionalling on -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:02:07: <elliott> ais523_: did you see what I said about the first user ever blocked on esolang, btw? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:02:59: <elliott> <elliott> ais523_: haha, wow: (show/hide) 06:13, 28 September 2005 Graue (Talk | contribs | block) blocked 69.50.165.186 (Talk) with an expiry time of 24 years (probably a spammer testing to see if shit gets deleted here) (unblock | change block) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:02:59: <elliott> <elliott> ais523_: they were blocked for creating [[Esolang:Sandbox]] with "Hello" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:04:27: <ais523_> I did -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:04:48: <ais523_> and you can just edit [[Project:Sandbox]] on any MediaWiki wiki, it'll be translated to the appropriate alternative -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:05:05: <elliott> ais523_: I rather doubt spambots are doing that, either -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:05:17: <ais523_> anyway, Coq requires your programs to be proved correct, much like Agda -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:05:27: <ais523_> so it's rather harder to program in than Haskell -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:05:35: <elliott> ais523_: your first statement is completely false (and also nonsensical) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:05:45: <ais523_> well, yes -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:05:50: <ais523_> but /if/ it made sense, it would be true -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:06:06: <elliott> ais523_: I doubt it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:06:16: <ais523_> (note: I've been awake for quite a while, you can expect me to make no sense) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:07:30: <ais523_> yes -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:07:33: <ais523_> admittedly, not by much -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:07:48: <ais523_> also, I'm usually tired -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:09:27: -!- ais523 has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:12:14: <ais523_> bleh, that's the wireless malfunctioning again -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:12:18: <ais523_> alternatively, someone stealing my laptop -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:13:59: <elliott> ais523_: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Sandbox -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:20:03: <ais523_> ^ul ((oerjan: )S:^):^ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:20:21: <ais523_> if you're going to recursively ping someone, do it properly -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:21:43: <oerjan> ^bf >[,>]<[<]>[[.>]<[<]>]!ais523_: -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:22:13: <oerjan> ^bf >,[>,]<[<]>[[.>]<[<]>]!ais523_: -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:22:13: <fungot> ais523_: ais523_: ais523_: ais523_: ais523_: ais523_: ais523_: ais523_: ais523_: ais523_: ais523_: ais523_: ais523_: ais523_: ais523_: ais523_: ais523_: ais523_: ais523_: ais523_: ais523_: ais523_: ais523_: ... -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:22:58: <ais523_> I was about to ask, for any particular reason -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:23:01: <ais523_> but I think you answered for me -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:25:14: <ais523_> fizzie: but we're reusing them anyway -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:25:56: <ais523_> but the (oerjan) is being :ed in both cases -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:26:17: <ais523_> just it's inside another program in one of the cases) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:26:35: <ais523_> (great things about English #50: it even lets you verb punctuation marks) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:27:01: <elliott> ais523_: I think Swedish does that better, they have an actual separator -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:27:14: <ais523_> how many languages allow s/// constructs, with that name? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:27:26: <ais523_> it might be more fun to link each word of "everybody seems to be doing" to a different language -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:27:32: <ais523_> but that would mean finding five of them -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:28:19: <ais523_> thue uses the ::= syntax -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:28:34: <elliott> ais523_: perl, sed, ed (I think) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:33:52: <elliott> ais523_: hey, mind if I move [[Template:Featured language]] to [[Esolang:Featured languages/Current]] and [[Template:Featured]] to [[Template:Featured language]]? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:47:25: <ais523_> elliott: I don't mind -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:47:38: <ais523_> (remember that you can transclude non-templates) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:48:08: <elliott> ais523_: obviously, or I wouldn't move {{featured language}} to [[Esolang:Featured languages/Current]], it'd break the main page :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:48:19: <ais523_> elliott: fun fact: did you know that templates weren't actually added to MediaWiki intentionally? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:48:34: <elliott> ais523_: you originally transcluded interface messages -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:48:44: <ais523_> yes, for internationalisation purposes -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:48:50: <elliott> ais523_: I know this because I read a comment where you explained it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:49:08: <ais523_> and people realised you could put arbitrary stuff in MediaWiki: space even though the software ignored it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:49:15: <ais523_> and make it think you were internationalising messages -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:49:22: <ais523_> and that's how templates came about -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:49:29: <elliott> ais523_: it was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2007_November_18#Template:Tooltip-article i read it at -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:49:42: <ais523_> ah, OK -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:49:56: <ais523_> I'm one of the few people to ever have successfully MfDed a MediaWiki:-space page -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:50:09: <ais523_> I followed it up by speedying one, I think -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:50:40: <elliott> Comment I've posted the MfD now. Wow, that's the second time I've MfD'd a MediaWiki: page... --ais523 10:52, 23 November 2007 (UTC) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:50:55: <ais523_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/MediaWiki:Tooltip-article -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:51:00: <ais523_> bleh, you beat me to it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:51:47: <ais523_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/MediaWiki:Block_compress_delete -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:51:54: <elliott> ais523_: err, does this person realise you're talking about a MediaWiki-space page? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:52:06: <ais523_> they probably did, and were intentionally-ignoring the fact -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:53:46: <ais523_> you wouldn't get huge breakage, just lots of messages being less customized -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:54:18: <ais523_> hmm, it's fun to see that in 2006, I wasn't sure what deleting an interface message would do and neither was anyone else -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:54:22: <ais523_> and in 2007, I was explaining it to them -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:54:48: <elliott> ais523_: you asked if sandbox edits show up in the "edit log" on [[Esolang:Sandbox]] in 2006 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:55:25: <ais523_> heh -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:56:12: <ais523_> meanwhile, you might enjoy this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/MediaWiki: -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:56:20: <ais523_> it's how I found the relevant MfDs -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:13:57:41: -!- ais523_ has quit (Quit: Page closed). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:14:31:17: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:14:31:37: <elliott> hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:14:31:59: <ais523> try saving and restoring twice -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:14:34:13: <elliott> ais523: what? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:14:34:37: <ais523> I was in the mood for a non sequitur -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:14:47:47: <elliott> ais523: hey, can you fix CSS so it supports negative paddings? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:14:48:14: <ais523> no -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:14:48:26: <ais523> would a negative margin work for whatever you're trying to do? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:14:55:46: <ais523> elliott: oh, I fixed my binary diff problem with a bit of out-of-the-box thinking -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:14:56:30: <ais523> I got the save code to remember, for each thing it wrote out, what it was writing out (with an identifier that wouldn't change over time and was unique for each bit of the save file), and which byte in the save file it started -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:14:56:42: <ais523> then I compare the files by comparing the tags and going byte-by-byte from there -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:14:56:48: <ais523> if you believe hashtables to be O(1), it's O(n) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:14:57:10: <ais523> and leads to a diff format that has commands seek, copy, edit -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:14:58:38: <ais523> I'm not even convinced it's an awful hack… -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:14:59:46: <ais523> in my case, it's O(n^2) in the limit because I use a linked list upon hash collisions, but O(n) throughout the file sizes that actually happen in practice -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:15:00:53: -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:15:13:51: <oerjan> although with ais523 and Taneb snatching the very two languages i was considering instead... -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-20.txt:18:29:39: <elliott> In my defence, ais523 added that signature when adding his entry without updating the rest of the instructions. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:09:55:01: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:09:56:52: <elliott> hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:09:56:58: <ais523> hi -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:10:23:23: <ais523> fizzie: uppercase ß is SS -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:10:27:04: <fizzie> ais523: Sure, but that's just boring. The thing kmc linked to is much better, and in fact a bit like whatI thought it'd be. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:10:27:35: <elliott> ais523: Ss, no? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:10:27:39: <ais523> I accidentally discovered there was such a thing as uppercase schwa recently -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:10:27:46: <ais523> elliott: hmm, debatable; I've seen SS more commonly -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:10:58:16: <ais523> elliott: fun fact: Verity turned out to have capability security by accident -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:10:58:21: <ais523> we didn't put it in there deliberately, it just happened -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:00:00: <elliott> ais523: haha -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:00:18: <elliott> ais523: well, capability security is more about /not/ doing certain things, really -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:00:41: <ais523> want to light up an LED? someone has to pass you a function that lets you do that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:01:01: <ais523> we have a linker where you just do "import <library>" and it'll automatically set up the required calls behind the scenes, though -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:03:25: <elliott> ais523: hey, what's the equivalent of "bibliography" for programming languages? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:03:57: <ais523> hmm, what exactly do you mean by that? I can think of two possible meanings and am having problems expressing either of them -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:05:03: <ais523> oh, that wasn't either of them -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:05:14: <ais523> we can go with catseye's version, I think -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:06:37: <elliott> ais523: (I realised [[Chris Pressey]] should probably have a comprehensive list of the languages we have articles on) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:06:46: <ais523> indeed -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:11:55: <ais523> seriously? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:12:02: <ais523> admittedly, I like Homespring and Muriel too -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:12:38: <ais523> actually, I should start using Homespring rather than Haifu as an example of a good thematic language -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:12:44: <ais523> they both are, but Homespring is better -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:12:50: <ais523> well, HOMESPRING -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:12:56: <ais523> it's an acronym, after all -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:13:10: <elliott> ais523: no, HOtMEfSPRIbNG -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:13:19: <ais523> that's the expanded version -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:14:49: <ais523> how bizarre -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:15:07: <ais523> there's also documentation in the esoteric files archive, though -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:15:26: <ais523> nah, it's hilarious -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:20:04: <ais523> elliott: what are Linux DEs like nowadays? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:20:31: <elliott> ais523: which ones? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:20:37: <ais523> any of them -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:20:44: <ais523> I'm still on Gnome 2, but I'm going to have to upgrade eventually -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:20:52: <ais523> and am wondering if there are any I'll find usable -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:21:04: <ais523> (note: I consider Windows 7 usable; not on default settings, but it only requires small changes) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:21:50: <ais523> pity, I was rather hoping they would -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:22:03: <ais523> or at least, that someone had got gnome-panel working properly in gnome 3 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:22:08: <ais523> that's what I'd want, really -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:22:30: <elliott> ais523: gnome 3 does have a gnome-panel, the "fallback" mode -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:22:34: <ais523> keep the applications, use the old window manager and panel application -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:22:38: <ais523> yep, I'd heard that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:22:52: <ais523> crazy idea: is it possible to use gnome 2's gnome-panel in gnome 3? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:23:39: <ais523> I guess I'll try Unity first, and probably decide I don't like it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:23:42: <ais523> and then KDE -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:24:20: <elliott> ais523: why not just try Xfce first? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:24:52: <ais523> I guess trying the options that you expect not to succeed first is likely to produce a better decision in the end -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:25:02: <ais523> also note that I used an earlier version of KDE 4 for a while -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:25:07: <ais523> and it was mostly usable -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:33:50: <ais523> a fail isn't really quite the same thing as an exception, although they're similar -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:33:55: <ais523> and a cut is not the same thing as an exception at all -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:34:05: <ais523> and a nonlocal cut is not at all related -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:35:59: <ais523> it's possible to implement fails as exceptions -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:36:18: <ais523> I was showing my students how to do that in Java, for if they wanted to write a parser that wasn't LL(1) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:36:40: <ais523> (which was a surprisingly possible thing, as they had to write a parser, and had been shown how to write LL(1) parsers which was sufficient for the exercise) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:42:48: <ais523> hagb4rd: don't all error handling mechanisms do that? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:11:59:10: <ais523> oh right, I forgot about the antipattern where when anything goes wrong, you print it to stdout and keep on going -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:12:33:05: -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:13:33:16: <oerjan> <elliott> ais523: Ss, no? <-- since it doesn't actually occur at the start of words it would probably always be all caps, so SS as ais523 says -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:15:42:15: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:15:42:40: <ais523> hi elliott -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:15:44:04: <elliott> hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:15:45:54: <ais523> Vorpal: the GPU renders the cursor, AFAIK -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:15:46:07: <ais523> the reason I think this is that I've seen GPU crashes that render nothing on the system working /but/ the mouse cursor -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:15:46:27: <elliott> ais523: That's a bit modern-day for Vorpal's question. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:15:56:46: <ais523> bleh, my zoom-in-and-see-the-individual-pixels window manager trick doesn't work on the cursor -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:15:58:06: <Vorpal> ais523, a screen magnifier? Or something else? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:15:58:25: <ais523> Vorpal: it's one of the compiz features -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:15:58:32: <ais523> most of them, I'm not even sure if they have an intended use -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:15:58:36: <ais523> they were just added because they could -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:15:58:53: <ais523> e.g. I can make a window black-and-white using super-shift-mousewheel -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:15:59:04: <ais523> which is nice on occasion, if something's too brightly colored -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:15:59:34: <Vorpal> ais523, anyway, what happened to the cursor when you used that trick? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:15:59:41: <ais523> it just kept moving around as normal -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:15:59:48: <ais523> oh, you mean zooming in? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:15:59:51: <ais523> it stayed the same size -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:15:59:59: <ais523> and moving it changed the point the screen was zoomed around -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:16:01:46: <ais523> fizzie: that's actually in the default set when you ask for high effects -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:16:02:47: <ais523> Vorpal: there's a bit of a timelag on pixels further from the mouse -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:16:02:53: <ais523> so it looks like the window's slightly elastic -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:16:03:31: <ais523> Vorpal: it looks nicer than the window staying rigid -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:16:03:44: <ais523> but yes, there's no real need for it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:16:03:46: <ais523> to me it does -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:16:03:57: -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:17:26:02: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:17:32:26: <elliott> hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:17:32:52: <ais523> hi -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:19:24:36: <ais523> use Gregor's neural network? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:19:25:55: <elliott> ais523: No. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:19:41:42: <ais523> is there even any point? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:19:46:39: <elliott> ais523: ? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:22:18:26: <ais523> fizzie: someone tried to run it and complained that it didn't work -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:22:18:28: <ais523> `file canary -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:22:18:38: <ais523> `cat canary -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:22:19:29: -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-21.txt:22:21:30: <nortti> it makes Phantom_Hoover and ais523 quit -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:12:41:07: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:12:42:21: <elliott> hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:12:42:45: <ais523> hi elliott -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:14:23:36: -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:15:55:20: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:15:56:12: <ais523> yay, teaching over for the academic year -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:15:56:17: <ais523> not counting potential marks entry or exam marking -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:16:00:08: <elliott> hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:16:00:12: <ais523> hi elliott -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:16:02:32: <ais523> real men made their computer out of transistors, and have their boot code hardcoded from memory -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:16:05:06: <ais523> is spit n-type or p-type? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:16:05:15: <ais523> it's mostly made of water and protein, right? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:16:05:43: <Phantom_Hoover> ais523, real men spit arsenic and boron. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:16:09:05: <ais523> the problem is that such discussions collapse into self-parody too quickly -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:16:09:13: <ais523> and are indistinguishable from it even if they aren't meant to be -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:16:10:20: <ais523> yes -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:16:36:07: <elliott> ais523: Hey, should I add <ref> and <math>? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:16:36:24: <ais523> elliott: depends on if you think anyone would use them -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:16:36:35: <ais523> also, why not zzo38's custom mathy thing? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:16:42:10: <elliott> ais523: Because zzo38's custom mathy thing (a) needs heavy modifications to be usable on anybody else's computer by his own admission, (b) obviously doesn't support standard LaTeX syntax, and (c) has no MediaWiki extension, he wants me to write the extension for him to use it. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:16:45:14: <elliott> ais523: I think <ref> would be useful, since there are quite a few articles with citations done in a rather ad-hoc style (mostly the theoretical CS stuff). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:16:45:39: <ais523> perhaps -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:17:23:51: <ais523> so what are these esocolor things? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:17:24:58: <elliott> ais523: We're painting fizzie's house. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:17:25:09: <ais523> not sure I believe that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:17:25:40: <ais523> elliott: does anyone /really/ believe the world is piecewise-linear? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:17:26:57: <elliott> ais523: Like, God, man. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:17:49:46: -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:19:06:02: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:19:12:40: <elliott> hi ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:19:12:49: <ais523> ` -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:19:13:15: <olsner> `? ais523 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:19:13:18: <HackEgo> ais523 is ais523. This topic may retroactively become more informative if or when Feather is invented. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:19:13:30: <ais523> gah, HackEgo has ruined our convention -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:19:13:35: <ais523> which shows how long ago we last tried to use it… -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:19:14:00: <ais523> come to think of it, "not found" is not really a sensible error message for trying to exec the null string -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:19:42:10: -!- ais523_ has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:19:45:24: -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:19:55:03: -!- ais523_ is now known as ais523. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:21:57:26: <ais523> btw, that gzip file that got mangled by phpBB? the person sent me the original, it was a standard gzip file after all -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:21:58:04: <ais523> it had a lot of NULs after the first three bytes, which presumably phpBB deleted, which is why we couldn't parse it from that -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:21:59:31: <ais523> the zeros came very early -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:21:59:34: <ais523> so they'd have shifted all the bytes from then on out of place -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:22:05:51: <ais523> oh, mtime was indeed 0, in that case -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:22:39:34: <ais523> wow, advert I just saw: "3 easy steps: 1. Click to download. 2. Run the .exe file to install. 3. Enjoy the fun content!" together with a large Download button, five stars, the company name, some version compatibility information, and a large tick for some reason -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:22:39:42: <ais523> no indication on what the product actually was… -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:22:39:54: <ais523> what are the odds it /isn't/ malware? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:23:01:44: <ais523> Sgeo: are you an idiot now? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:23:01:52: <Sgeo> ais523, I'd like to think not. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-22.txt:23:48:08: -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:25:44: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:27:19: <elliott> ais523: Speaking of, I might sit down and spec out Johny sometime. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:28:03: <ais523> elliott: heh, have you found a language that the name fits yet? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:28:16: <ais523> oerjan: does INTERCAL count? that's not quite the same thing -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:28:38: <elliott> ais523: Well, no. But I figure a language that doesn't fit the name is just as good. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:31:20: <ais523> early mechanical typewriters didn't even have 0 or 1 keys, you were meant to use O and I -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:31:59: <ais523> elliott: a reddit comment explained the invention of the backslash a while back -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:32:10: <ais523> apparently, it was to make it possible to type /\ and \/ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:32:47: <elliott> ais523: ISTR that too -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:33:37: <ais523> ion: yes -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:34:57: <elliott> ais523: kick ion -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:35:23: <ais523> ion: don't spell elliott's name, he doesn't like it and there's no excuse given the existence of tab-complete -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:35:38: <ais523> (although, I find it hard to spell elliott any other way even when it's correct, having known this elliott so long) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:35:53: <Mathnerd314> ais523: what about elly? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:36:07: <ais523> Mathnerd314: that's not a common abbreviation for "elliott" -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:36:09: <elliott> ion: ais523 was preceded by 522 ais'. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:36:26: <ais523> it is a moderately common name, but it's short for something else -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:36:28: <ais523> I forget what offhand -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:36:50: <Mathnerd314> ais523: my point was it makes tab-complete difficult -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:37:38: <ais523> ah, I didn't notice she was in /here/ -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:37:43: <ais523> (I know her from another channel) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:38:18: <Mathnerd314> ais523: and which channel would that be, or is it classified? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:38:44: <ais523> Mathnerd314: ##crawl-dev -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:39:46: <elliott> ion: You won't get along with ais523, then! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:39:59: <ais523> I /want/ to like Crawl, but can't -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:40:07: <ais523> every now and then I start playing it again, and remember why I don't like it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:40:45: <ais523> Phantom_Hoover: devs are taking it in the wrong direction -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:40:56: <elliott> Well, also what ais523 has told me. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:41:07: <ais523> there seems to be some sort of crusade against tactics -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:41:16: <ais523> and the game tends to tend in the direction of obfuscating complexity -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:41:25: <ais523> security through obscurity makes no sense in a roguelike… -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:43:28: <ais523> oerjan: interesting fact: while I have written several MiniMAX interps, I have never dared to run any of them -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:43:35: <ais523> also, does class="plain" on the table work? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:43:39: <elliott> ais523: No. -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:48:59: <oerjan> ais523: nice synchronicity - it was your MiniMax table that convinced me that something like plainpres was needed :) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:49:19: <ais523> oerjan: I saw you editing MiniMAX, and being unsure why you were doing so -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:49:21: <ais523> have you figured it out yet? -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:49:31: <ais523> (I was commenting on MiniMAX /because/ you were editing it) -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:50:27: <oerjan> ais523: i just thought i should add a proper table, after doing so for the TC proof -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:50:45: <ais523> why you were editing it -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:50:50: <oerjan> ais523: also i hit the latter by pressing random -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:20:51:14: <elliott> ais523: he was unsure why he started his formatting because it's a lot of work, presumably -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-23.txt:21:57:22: -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-24.txt:12:32:58: <elliott> @tell ais523 http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4471 -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-24.txt:14:52:33: <elliott> @tell ais523 Stop appearing where I least expect you! -/var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-24.txt:17:48:45: <elliott> `run grep ais523 /var/irclogs/_esoteric/2012-03-??.txt | paste
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--- a/paste/paste.3800 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,51 +0,0 @@ -2011-03-10.txt:21:12:34: -!- treederwright has joined #esoteric. -2011-03-10.txt:21:12:42: <treederwright> is this a esoteric room -2011-03-10.txt:21:13:22: <elliott> treederwright: http://esolangs.org/ has more on our mystical order. -2011-03-10.txt:21:13:56: <treederwright> im new here, but i am a member of esoteric orders -2011-03-10.txt:21:14:12: <treederwright> is anyone here rosicrucian? -2011-03-10.txt:21:14:21: <treederwright> or a member of the tradition of the temple -2011-03-10.txt:21:14:24: <elliott> treederwright: BAHAHAHA! Of course! -2011-03-10.txt:21:14:24: <Phantom_Hoover> treederwright, sure, I'll be one. -2011-03-10.txt:21:14:36: <pikhq> treederwright: Doubtful; this is esoteric in the sense of esoteric programming languages, not in the sense of esotericism. -2011-03-10.txt:21:15:37: <treederwright> im in the wrong area -2011-03-10.txt:21:15:42: <treederwright> this is for computer stuff -2011-03-10.txt:21:15:45: <elliott> treederwright: Incorrect. -2011-03-10.txt:21:15:53: <Phantom_Hoover> treederwright, computer esoterica! -2011-03-10.txt:21:16:03: <treederwright> lol -2011-03-10.txt:21:16:05: <oerjan> treederwright: sadly we've never found a better irc channel to point people like you to -2011-03-10.txt:21:16:29: <treederwright> i am just amazed at your funniness -2011-03-10.txt:21:16:42: <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-03-10.txt:21:16:47: <elliott> `addquote <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-03-10.txt:21:17:08: <Phantom_Hoover> treederwright, what're the dimensions of the matrix of solidity? -2011-03-10.txt:21:17:51: <oklopol> treederwright: the determinant of my matrix is 0 :< -2011-03-10.txt:21:18:10: -!- treederwright has parted #esoteric (?). -2011-03-10.txt:22:19:03: <elliott> `addquote <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-03-10.txt:22:22:28: <elliott> `addquote <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-03-10.txt:22:22:29: <HackEgo> 330) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-03-10.txt:22:22:41: <elliott> Twiddle: really i want to quote the entire treederwright exchange, but :) -2011-04-08.txt:22:25:05: <HackEgo> 330) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-04-08.txt:22:26:10: <elliott> 13:17:08 <Phantom_Hoover> treederwright, what're the dimensions of the matrix of solidity? -2011-05-15.txt:19:32:48: <HackEgo> 329) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-05-16.txt:16:57:38: <HackEgo> 329) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-05-18.txt:20:14:57: <HackEgo> 329) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-10-19.txt:19:14:01: <HackEgo> 316) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-11-03.txt:18:46:53: <HackEgo> 303) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-11-10.txt:11:01:34: <HackEgo> 303) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-11-10.txt:22:50:07: <HackEgo> 301) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-12-11.txt:22:58:11: <HackEgo> 299) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-12-11.txt:23:22:40: <elliott> 2011-03-10.txt:22:22:29: <HackEgo> 330) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-12-24.txt:01:18:49: <HackEgo> 299) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-01-04.txt:20:09:16: <HackEgo> 299) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-01-04.txt:20:09:38: <elliott> we, on IRC, were closed-minded; treederwright enlightened us as to the matrix of solidity we are locked within -2012-02-12.txt:23:46:04: <HackEgo> 80) <fedoragirl> My mascot is a tree of broccoli. \ 259) <zzo38> ais523: Maybe it is better, because I don't think the octopus will live very well in the tree. But the difference is that the Internet is lying and you cannot see such things; you could make modified picture, though, in order to lie more clearly, at least. \ 296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity \ 708) <Phantom__Hoover> -2012-02-16.txt:19:48:47: <HackEgo> 296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-02-16.txt:19:50:34: <HackEgo> 296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-02-21.txt:19:46:48: <HackEgo> 296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-02-21.txt:20:04:38: <olsner> who is/was treederwright? -2012-02-21.txt:20:05:12: <PiRSquared17> `quote treederwright -2012-02-21.txt:20:05:15: <HackEgo> 296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-02-21.txt:20:11:28: <Gregor> `pastelogs treederwright -2012-02-21.txt:20:12:18: <Gregor> http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2011-03-10#211642treederwright <-- -2012-02-26.txt:01:30:00: <itidus21> It really helps a lot when someone just blurts out an incomprehensible soundbyte like <treederwright> enjoy your matrix of solidarity -2012-02-26.txt:01:36:21: <HackEgo> 296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-02-26.txt:01:38:46: <itidus21> `pastelogs [<]treederwright>
--- a/paste/paste.4902 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,5 +0,0 @@ -2012-02-26.txt:02:06:26: <Friendship> "Surprisingly often covered in tree sap." -2012-02-26.txt:02:11:18: <Friendship> Or "Surprisingly often covered in tree sap" -2012-02-26.txt:02:19:01: <itidus21> "Wikipedia is surprisingly often covered in tree sap." -2012-02-26.txt:02:23:32: <Friendship> oerjan: Because you're surprisingly often covered in tree sap? -2012-02-26.txt:02:24:22: <oerjan> `pastelogs surprisingly often covered
--- a/paste/paste.5749 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,4 +0,0 @@ -2012-02-01.txt:22:44:40: <oerjan> @tell Taneb er... Dupdog is not supposed to have a program pointer, you always take the first character. Also your eval' is an infinite recursion (hint: unless you are writing generic combinators, a function argument with IO type is usually a mistake.) -2012-02-01.txt:22:58:01: <oerjan> @tell Taneb I can see how "The next character is read" might give you that impression though - but note that (I clearly recall) the initial inspiration for dupdog was the idea of two irc bots reacting to each other's lines as entirely new commands, for which such a remembering of position doesn't make sense. -2012-02-18.txt:14:49:47: <Taneb> ~!~ --infinite loop in dupdog? -2012-02-21.txt:22:42:32: <oerjan> `pastelogs taneb.*dupdog
--- a/paste/paste.6146 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,11 +0,0 @@ -2007-03-25.txt:01:47:27: <bsmntbombdood> @'foo [foo code] @object %inherit add-method done -2007-03-25.txt:01:54:47: <bsmntbombdood> @'foo [foo code] @object %inherit add-method done init foo -2010-01-14.txt:17:08:20: <ehird> It's just a hideously complex language that isn't all that comfortable to code in. All its esotericness is inherited from Befunge-93. -2010-09-11.txt:06:16:46: <alise> To be more precise, a fingerprint is a unique ID code which indicates a library of routines (a fingerprinted extension) to be assigned temporarily to what the instructions A to Z do. Multiple loaded fingerprints can overlap and overload, so even object-oriented-like inheritance is possible. -2010-10-01.txt:21:22:29: <alise> Unicode U+00D0 U+00F0 Inherited from the older ISO 8859-1 standard -2010-11-01.txt:23:01:41: <olsner> also, what's the difference between this new 16-bit code segment and the one inherited from real mode? -2011-01-07.txt:20:38:05: <oerjan> some of the code may be inherited from the haskell 98 report -2011-11-19.txt:07:23:18: <CakeProphet> also as far as OO goes the use of mixins and partial classes allows more code re-use than silly C++/Java inheritance -2012-02-22.txt:12:58:12: <elliott> well a hacky way would be changing the <code>s to <code style="background: inherit"> i think -2012-03-12.txt:13:07:02: <oerjan> `pastelogs code.*inherit -2012-03-12.txt:13:07:47: <oerjan> `pastelogs code.*inherit
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--- a/paste/paste.7250 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,301 +0,0 @@ -2004-05-29.txt:07:25:26: <Toreun> it's surprisingly a lot of fun -2004-06-04.txt:16:30:54: <fizzie> hm, lang's been surprisingly active lately. -2004-06-11.txt:22:32:25: <lament> it's surprisingly efficient. -2004-11-07.txt:22:32:14: <fizzie> apparently he keeps finding composite-number-factoring algorithms at a surprisingly high rate. :p -2005-05-13.txt:09:02:27: <pgimeno> that's how I've managed to recover the True distribution (which is based, quite unsurprisingly, in False) -2005-05-13.txt:18:09:31: <puzzlet> surprisingly Wikipedia had launched hieroglyph support -2005-06-19.txt:19:02:31: <Keymaker> it's surprisingly time-consuming to write that kind of program. the hardest part is to keep switching windows to look at wikipedia article etc.. -2005-07-27.txt:23:29:09: <fizzie> For a laptop it's surprisingly nice. -2005-11-26.txt:20:53:14: <jix> my div routine is surprisingly compact... -2005-12-03.txt:10:52:08: <int-e> Keymaker: the problem is surprisingly tricky for brainfuck -2006-04-17.txt:16:24:13: <calamari> openoffice's export to pdf works surprisingly well -2006-04-28.txt:22:28:48: <GregorR-W> The Intel graphics cards are surprisingly decent, all things considered. -2006-07-27.txt:23:27:13: <ihope> It's surprisingly easy to to double those short words ;-) -2006-08-11.txt:03:47:06: <RodgerTheGreat> seriously, though, that's a surprisingly successful translation. -2006-08-22.txt:00:56:56: <Razor-X> Wow. That's surprisingly good. -2006-09-02.txt:05:40:13: <ifndef_GREGOR_H> ivan`: This is surprisingly good for being raw IRC :P -2006-10-01.txt:21:24:25: <oerjan> no, surprisingly not i am just guessing how it works -2007-01-03.txt:07:17:23: <CakeProphet> not surprisingly. -2007-01-18.txt:02:51:16: <CakeProphet> it sounds feasible... surprisingly. -2007-02-19.txt:01:10:06: <SevenInchBread> yes, unsurprisingly, the mathematics behind music is pure mathematics... however there's obviously something missing from a mathematical model. -2007-02-25.txt:02:12:59: <oerjan> and more surprisingly, it actually manages to run the Malbolge cat program. -2007-03-21.txt:03:54:20: <oerjan> This surprisingly gives it some of the advantages of lazy evaluation. -2007-04-08.txt:03:49:33: <SevenInchBread> we can easily be esoteric (and Discordian... which works SURPRISINGLY well with esoteric) in the emergent behavior of our stale and bland platform -2007-05-31.txt:23:21:16: <oerjan> it was an auxiliary Germanish language that we discussed on the conlang mailing list years ago. I am surprised to see it has a (disputed notability) Wikipedia article, and (not as surprisingly) has split into several versions. -2007-06-20.txt:04:36:44: <oerjan> surprisingly, the answer was yes. -2007-06-25.txt:19:32:41: <oerjan> i read learning russian was on the way up in finland, or something, unsurprisingly. -2007-06-30.txt:01:07:33: <ihope> ndiswrapper was surprisingly painless. -2007-07-07.txt:08:05:10: <edwardk> they can't be proven in general, but surprisingly many can -2007-08-01.txt:01:45:15: <lament> which is surprisingly not far from the truth -2007-09-10.txt:00:30:02: <oerjan> although the equality of the two numbers have seen surprisingly little investigation, being mentioned in only 3% of the articles on the subject. -2007-09-13.txt:07:46:09: <_D6Gregor1RFeZi> Surprisingly, VESA /did/ work at 24bpp 8-O -2007-10-25.txt:16:36:46: <ais523> surprisingly most of them weren't very interested -2007-11-01.txt:16:38:15: <GregorR> A long time ago, in a galaxy surprisingly nearby (here, in fact), somebody asked if Brainfuck can access the Win32 API. -2007-11-17.txt:18:06:15: <ehird`> "The approach is surprisingly simple: for each line of code you enter, we compile a shared object in the background. If the compilation succeeds, the object is loaded into a child process via dlopen(). If the child process segfaults, we know that the code was bad and so we can "rewind" by replaying all n-1 steps. Printing variables is handled by attaching gdb to the child process." -2007-12-28.txt:01:48:22: <Slereah-> It's surprisingly hot in here. -2007-12-28.txt:22:13:06: <Hiato> hrmm... no (unsurprisingly) -2008-01-04.txt:18:26:32: <Slereah> Yes. and unsurprisingly, it's in the m combinator section. -2008-01-06.txt:15:13:25: <Hiato> unsurprisingly, I am not surpirised -2008-03-20.txt:16:34:54: <Deewiant> unsurprisingly -2008-03-20.txt:16:36:23: <Deewiant> unsurprisingly there's no info on the net about running oak draw on windows xp >_< -2008-04-11.txt:21:41:46: * oerjan finds oko utterances surprisingly short for having such low entropy per character :D -2008-04-27.txt:23:28:26: <evincar> The imterpreter is surprisingly difficult to make. -2008-06-08.txt:15:52:49: <ais523> registered in Russia, unsurprisingly -2008-06-17.txt:18:00:52: <ais523> heh, unsurprisingly, spreadfirefox.com is down -2008-06-24.txt:19:49:52: <ais523> C-INTERCAL's surprisingly robust against everything but call stack tricks -2008-07-05.txt:17:09:21: <Deewiant> surprisingly handy -2008-07-06.txt:16:40:17: <oerjan> surprisingly hot -2008-08-08.txt:20:07:16: <tusho> (Perhaps surprisingly,) it's annoying. -2008-08-15.txt:13:20:55: <oerjan> i suppose T&R has surprisingly few math jokes for having polygons as the main characters -2008-08-20.txt:17:22:56: <Deewiant> and he did, surprisingly quickly too :-P -2008-09-02.txt:19:31:08: <oerjan> AnMaster: Oscar Wilde did surprisingly well without one -2008-09-04.txt:20:02:09: <fizzie> "Surprisingly" the name "zzie" was not taken. -2008-09-07.txt:08:25:14: <oerjan> surprisingly, some people are awake -2008-09-17.txt:20:44:43: <fizzie> fungot: You're being surprisingly coherent today. -2008-09-17.txt:21:40:48: <fizzie> That's surprisingly small. -2008-09-21.txt:13:11:35: <HanDongSeong> surprisingly there are also many atheists here -2008-09-22.txt:17:39:02: <ais523> the code for it is surprisingly readable as it has pretty much nothing to do with brainfuck -2008-09-23.txt:21:37:58: <tusho> unsurprisingly it fails in lynx -2008-09-28.txt:21:36:50: <fizzie> I think all we got out of that one was few minutes of pointlessness, unsurprisingly. -2008-10-16.txt:08:41:14: <immibis> it seems to give surprisingly relevant answers -2008-10-23.txt:09:57:43: <fizzie> fungot: That was surprisingly text-like. -2008-10-23.txt:09:58:58: <fizzie> That's surprisingly legible. -2008-10-26.txt:19:57:04: <fizzie> Actually the current data-set, even though it's so tiny, works surprisingly well: http://zem.fi/~fis/botconv.txt -2008-10-27.txt:20:57:37: <fizzie> In the wiki there's also "Another Pi Language", where the source code is two arbitrary integers; first is the index in pi and second is the amount of digits to read; that is then interpreted as "source file of any language". Unsurprisingly unimplemented. -2008-10-31.txt:23:58:03: <fizzie> ehird: Suggested emacs, surprisingly. -2008-11-13.txt:17:01:25: <Deewiant> Unsurprisingly enough :-P -2008-11-21.txt:23:35:48: <oklo> surprisingly easy to read considering finland very rarely has any link between a's and ä's -2008-12-05.txt:18:25:36: <oerjan> surprisingly that term does not exist yet -2008-12-07.txt:16:26:25: * SimonRC is in a surprisingly bad mood -2008-12-21.txt:23:17:16: <fizzie> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_micronations is surprisingly long. -2008-12-28.txt:17:15:48: <ais523> surprisingly -2008-12-31.txt:21:10:56: <psygnisfive> Madagascar 2 was a good movie, surprisingly -2009-01-04.txt:18:13:20: <ais523> although "what am intelligence" seems surprisingly philosophical -2009-01-07.txt:12:50:17: <fizzie> Path names are indeed surprisingly short. -2009-01-08.txt:17:11:38: <fungot> AnMaster: i tried both gambit 4b13 and gambit 4b15, and surprisingly, the picture that won fnord ascii art contest wasn't even ascii art. -2009-01-09.txt:23:04:35: <fizzie> There seem to be quite many Polish distributions in there; surprisingly. -2009-01-09.txt:23:04:42: <ehird> fizzie: or, rather, not surprisingly -2009-01-11.txt:09:29:02: <fungot> oklopol: ut austin too, not surprisingly though. ;p fnord/ fnord/ posse/ fnord/ esoteric not found -2009-01-11.txt:19:01:49: <ehird> that's surprisingly common in programming. -2009-01-13.txt:18:01:40: <Deewiant> which is unsurprisingly what's under localhost in /etc/hosts -2009-01-14.txt:18:33:42: <ehird> a2p is surprisingly competent -2009-01-18.txt:02:18:16: <kerlo> (((s k) a) b), surprisingly, gives this: b -2009-01-18.txt:14:51:18: <ehird> (it's surprisingly short, 5-6 or so elements) -2009-01-18.txt:19:25:47: <ais523> I actually used to be pretty good at VB once, surprisingly -2009-01-18.txt:22:05:50: <ehird> ais523: unsurprisingly, Python is not optimized for entering code over IRC. -2009-02-06.txt:15:54:12: <leeguy92> ,[>,] i discovered brainfuck can be surprisingly compact -2009-02-14.txt:15:48:49: <ehird> ais523: that's surprisingly ugly/hacked up for a google logos -2009-02-21.txt:15:02:52: <ais523> hmm... Dolphin is reminding me surprisingly of Nautilus -2009-02-22.txt:00:09:41: <ehird> which is surprisingly cheap -2009-02-23.txt:16:41:27: <ais523> looks surprisingly complex -2009-03-01.txt:09:54:21: <fizzie> Echoing is surprisingly complicated. -2009-03-03.txt:14:55:47: <ais523> surprisingly, CLC-INTERCAL would parse that just fine, C-INTERCAL might have more trouble -2009-03-04.txt:17:20:24: <ehird> wow, my malloc() returns surprisingly clean results. like 0x200000 -2009-03-05.txt:15:34:28: <ais523> this is actually surprisingly like writing INTERCAL -2009-03-05.txt:17:53:07: <ais523> most of the answers are surprisingly sane -2009-03-12.txt:14:59:34: <fizzie> Fujitsu Siemens is partially German (the Siemens side, surprisingly) and they manufacture computers. -2009-03-13.txt:20:15:41: <fizzie> That's surprisingly modern, given that triangles is what they draw nowadays too. -2009-03-15.txt:20:43:47: <ehird> AnMaster: I don't actually give a damn whether you watch it or not, surprisingly. -2009-03-27.txt:20:33:28: <AnMaster> Deewiant, fungot uses surprisingly much of the stuff actually, apart from stack stacks -2009-03-31.txt:14:13:56: <Deewiant> cfunge chokes as badly as CCBI on Mycology, unsurprisingly -2009-04-01.txt:23:21:08: <ais523> Gracenotes: #IRP is actually surprisingly active today -2009-04-06.txt:01:57:21: <oerjan> surprisingly hard to find, the spanish is compresiones -2009-04-07.txt:21:33:06: <Deewiant> (Unsurprisingly enough) -2009-04-08.txt:20:14:57: <ehird> AnMaster: very low, surprisingly. -2009-04-09.txt:22:32:45: <fizzie> Well, it's nice that it's someone else who's had to think about how to port that sigsegv handling; there seem to be some specialization involved for almost all (os, architecture) pairs in it. Also it doesn't do what I want in jitfunge (not surprisingly, since it's such a peculiar need), which is to fake the stack underflow so that it skips the faulting instruction, "returns" a zero, and counteracts the effect of any instructions that moved the stack pointer. -2009-04-11.txt:21:15:22: <ehird> When I was young and naive I was looking around my computer and thought thermal paste was unwanted gunge, so I scraped it all off. Surprisingly, it never caught fire. -2009-04-17.txt:18:53:14: <Deewiant> Unsurprisingly enough -2009-04-24.txt:16:35:04: <fizzie> Surprisingly the Culture books produced reasonably funny-sounding output; but I already have so many "normal authors" there. -2009-04-26.txt:16:02:50: <ais523> surprisingly, Cuil's results are slightly better than Google's in that respect -2009-04-26.txt:20:03:01: <Deewiant> Unsurprisingly. -2009-04-26.txt:20:03:12: <AnMaster> why "Unsurprisingly" -2009-04-27.txt:18:19:25: <ais523> which strikes me as surprisingly low given Moore's Law -2009-05-07.txt:04:50:35: <GregorR> I'm using oocalc. It works surprisingly well, and can even save without needing any further modifications to get it in the target form if you know how to ask it right, but it's a bit of a PITA because you can't just type, you have to press an arrow after every key. -2009-05-08.txt:20:24:44: <Deewiant> Unsurprisingly, doing SSD alignment on an HD isn't very smart :-P -2009-05-08.txt:20:40:36: <Deewiant> Lilja's there, unsurprisingly; he's a Haskell guy -2009-05-27.txt:20:04:59: <ehird> 8192, which is surprisingly small. But Deewiant, I want to know how many calls, on average. -2009-05-28.txt:07:41:34: <myndzi> i suspect that perhaps, given the right goal, brainfuck and a small set of random characters might be surprisingly flexible -2009-05-30.txt:19:09:12: <ehird> AnMaster: unsurprisingly, you're the only one it bothers. -2009-05-31.txt:08:06:43: <Patashu> 2/3 weave is surprisingly good still -2009-06-01.txt:10:29:33: <GregorR-L> Unsurprisingly, we're using the version ais made. -2009-06-01.txt:10:52:40: <GregorR-L> It tasted mostly like (presumably my own) blood, surprisingly sweet, with a little bit of bitterness. -2009-06-07.txt:00:11:25: <Lune-aVulff> ehird: Most of them are surprisingly lame :( -2009-06-10.txt:22:45:54: <GregorR> ehird: Not yet. Surprisingly difficult to take full-body photos of oneself :P -2009-06-12.txt:00:12:49: <GregorR> http://filebin.ca/tgruta/AgonizedlyChunkySonata.mid // this is a surprisingly accurate name :P -2009-06-18.txt:04:45:26: <oklopol> i'm writing a textbox atm, making a pretty correspondence between logical and physical lines is surprisingly difficult. -2009-06-23.txt:18:06:23: <Deewiant> Unsurprisingly, it devotes 18 lines to defining fst,snd,trd,frth,ffth for tuples up to size 5 -2009-07-10.txt:23:26:48: <oerjan> surprisingly close... -2009-07-13.txt:01:55:16: <Warrigal> I'm finding it surprisingly difficult to make a cat interpreter. -2009-07-20.txt:22:09:40: <ehird> google, unsurprisingly, can has a logo -2009-07-25.txt:22:42:28: <oklopol> but it takes surprisingly little effort to learn to be happy -2009-07-28.txt:01:28:49: <ehird> Surprisingly, statistically, NOBODY DOES THAT. -2009-08-05.txt:01:30:20: <oerjan> surprisingly nothing to do with piercing. -2009-08-06.txt:18:17:28: <oklopol> i mean writing a brainfuck interp without parsing is actually surprisingly error prone -2009-08-10.txt:16:46:19: <olegfink> surprisingly, it seems that it's the other way around -2009-08-12.txt:19:19:43: <oklopol> GregorR-L: surprisingly many, unfortunately! -2009-08-14.txt:19:54:06: <ehird> acme works surprisingly well on os x -2009-08-15.txt:02:35:19: <ehird> there surprisingly aren't any... -2009-08-26.txt:22:34:15: <ehird1> surprisingly, moving /lib doesn't break things. -2009-09-01.txt:06:46:54: <ehird> Surprisingly, a shiny new CPU with like 20% performance improvements does not alleviate the crippling slowness of bash and bashfunge. -2009-09-03.txt:21:39:51: <ehird> surprisingly, my partition surgery worked perfectly, first time -2009-09-03.txt:23:09:19: <ehird> [22:39] ehird: surprisingly, my partition surgery worked perfectly, first time -2009-09-03.txt:23:10:25: <Deewiant> 2009-09-03 23:39:57 ( ehird) surprisingly, my partition surgery worked perfectly, first time -2009-09-04.txt:03:51:26: <ehird> it's...surprisingly snappy -2009-09-12.txt:06:01:57: <ehird> unsurprisingly, it's to run a flight simulator -2009-09-12.txt:10:57:55: <ehird> That's surprisingly recent for cygwin :P -2009-09-13.txt:11:50:55: <fizzie> nasm, to be precise; surprisingly enough it didn't interpret "0123" as octal, wanted a "0o" prefix there. -2009-09-17.txt:21:19:47: <Deewiant> In Python, + concatenates; in Perl, it unsurprisingly adds two numbers :-P -2009-09-21.txt:22:45:26: <ehird> Surprisingly enough, most applications are unlike a web browser. -2009-09-21.txt:22:48:13: <ehird> Surprisingly enough, it's called a default because it's not appropriate in ALL cases. -2009-09-22.txt:10:18:26: <fizzie> Well, the SoftwareStore wiki page has renamed categories into "Departments", such as you would find from a physical store; I guess they're driving for that sort of metaphor. Except you only shoplift and never pay. (Well, the word "shoplift" surprisingly isn't mentioned there.) -2009-09-23.txt:15:31:29: <ehird> AnMaster: Surprisingly, the general population don't give a shit: they're sitting at horrible 16"-18" Acer laptops with a damn number pad and an uber-glossy 16:9 screen. -2009-10-01.txt:04:25:12: <hekau> surprisingly they made heavy use of occult symbolism -2009-10-05.txt:11:12:04: <ehird> and hobbyists, surprisingly, don't find porting every new feature to 3.11 fun -2009-10-06.txt:23:53:11: <oerjan> the rest is surprisingly close -2009-10-09.txt:07:26:22: <Rugxulo> surprisingly -2009-10-09.txt:13:30:16: <ehird> the wikipedia tab is surprisingly capable, handles infoboxes and everything just fine -2009-10-18.txt:22:45:44: <Sgeo> "Sgeo" is surprisingly not rare -2009-10-22.txt:03:32:23: <ehird> Oranjer: Surprisingly no! -2009-10-22.txt:04:01:22: <ehird> Well that's... surprisingly honest. -2009-10-24.txt:18:16:22: <ais523> /dev/env in DJGPP was surprisingly useful -2009-10-24.txt:18:23:59: <AnMaster> <ais523> /dev/env in DJGPP was surprisingly useful <-- eh -2009-10-26.txt:18:23:15: <ehird> The images themselves can be either .WIM images (as used in Vista), or .VHD (as used in Virtual PC). The ability to use VHD images allows the same image to be used across both virtual and physical hardware. Using a VHD with physical hardware depends on a new Windows 7 feature that allows direct booting from a VHD file; as a consequence, only Windows 7 (and Windows Server 2008 R2) can be deployed in this way. Manually deploying VHD images is surprisingly si -2009-11-01.txt:11:30:16: <Pthing> it is surprisingly (except not because it's pretty richly structured) melodic -2009-11-01.txt:11:37:39: <Pthing> if it were orchestrated properly, it would sound surprisingly good for all that it is entirely algorithmic -2009-11-02.txt:07:45:05: <ehird> That was surprisingly easy -2009-11-04.txt:23:47:51: <Gregor> Seems good enough, surprisingly *shrugs* -2009-11-12.txt:23:29:30: <Rugxulo> compresses to 21k .ZIP (unsurprisingly) -2009-11-23.txt:02:41:25: <ehird> That's pretty high at the top, and I can tell you that the type system hindered and bothered me a lot, and helped me surprisingly few times in comparison. -2009-12-01.txt:22:34:19: <ais523> that would actually be surprisingly easy -2009-12-01.txt:22:47:35: <ais523> AnMaster: gcc-bf is surprisingly efficient, on an RLE system -2009-12-20.txt:02:06:02: <ehirdiphone> iPhone typing is, surprisingly, not instantaneous. -2009-12-31.txt:23:58:42: <ehirdiphone> iPhone does not do ntp surprisingly enough -2010-01-02.txt:11:25:11: <ais523> for a while I was on a bed-at-7, wake-at-2 pattern, which is surprisingly nice -2010-01-06.txt:00:49:22: <ineiros> uorygl: Swedish is surprisingly easy (even though my Swedish is extremely rusty, since I don't use it at all). -2010-01-08.txt:14:33:37: <ehird> XP handles being lobotomised surprisingly well. -2010-01-08.txt:15:41:34: <ehird> That was surprisingly painless -2010-01-09.txt:15:44:17: <ehird> although winhugs is surprisingly nice -2010-01-10.txt:16:31:47: <ehird> AnMaster: Surprisingly enough, I don't care about your opinions. -2010-01-15.txt:10:34:20: <ais523> yes, surprisingly so -2010-01-26.txt:00:05:08: <Gregor> Finding non-crappy trumpet soundfonts. Surprisingly difficult. -2010-01-26.txt:22:05:42: <Deewiant> I'm missing all of those too, unsurprisingly enough. (And a few dozen others.) -2010-02-15.txt:01:23:32: <oerjan> surprisingly rarely -2010-02-25.txt:15:33:06: <fizzie> It was a bit tricky to interface with on the TI DSP board; despite being made by the same company, "surprisingly" the rather advanced (or at least feature-rich) serial communications circuitry wasn't really helpful for that sort of stuff. -2010-03-02.txt:14:02:10: <fungot> fizzie: an elven cloak: the hitchhiker's guide to the moonlight and the cimmerian. they are found in many places, not surprisingly, are large, dark shape rose from the chaos and gave it to open locked doors. -2010-03-03.txt:20:36:06: <fizzie> anmaster_l: Do you happen to know Erlang's actual bignum format, by the way? I only know how GMP does it, and that particular library has a (surprisingly small) MAX_BIGNUM. -2010-03-12.txt:18:38:25: <Deewiant> AnMaster: Only on POSIX, unsurprisingly enough. -2010-03-15.txt:01:03:56: <augur> and this algorithm works _surprisingly_ well -2010-03-28.txt:15:45:15: <alise_> Now I'm trying to prove (~ exists n, forall m, n >= m); it's surprisingly difficult. -2010-04-02.txt:01:23:34: <mibygl> Wow, it's surprisingly difficult to create a user from the command line in OS C. -2010-04-02.txt:01:26:05: <AnMaster> <mibygl> Wow, it's surprisingly difficult to create a user from the command line in OS C. <-- yeah, I heard it is all a chimera that OS . -2010-04-02.txt:18:00:27: <ais523> seems surprisingly uncreative for Google -2010-04-05.txt:04:28:40: <oklopol> boolean algebras i had heard of, surprisingly enough -2010-04-09.txt:16:50:42: <Deewiant> vaeyl dies due to k not working as expected, unsurprisingly enough -2010-04-09.txt:21:36:03: <Deewiant> Unsurprisingly enough -2010-04-09.txt:22:57:31: <alise> Surprisingly, that first sentence is actually the correct way to phrase that with "you guys". -2010-04-11.txt:18:48:42: <AnMaster> Deewiant, and surprisingly so does rcfunge! -2010-04-13.txt:01:55:48: <Gregor> That site is both not Pen Island, and surprisingly penis-free. (Although not at all porn-free) -2010-04-16.txt:22:18:46: <alise> The definition code is surprisingly nice. This is promising. -2010-04-17.txt:23:56:57: <Rugxulo> huh, mandel.bf is slow also (surprisingly) -2010-04-19.txt:18:13:37: <pikhq> AnMaster: Surprisingly? Many things do require C++. -2010-04-29.txt:14:50:44: <fizzie> Misread an Amazon title recommendation as "Purely Fictional Data Structures". (Unsurprisingly, they were functional instead. I might have bought a book on fictional ones.) -2010-05-01.txt:01:41:45: <ais523> wow, I'm surprisingly good at feeling generically angry -2010-05-01.txt:02:01:48: <pikhq> It is, unsurprisingly, a char*. -2010-05-04.txt:11:53:27: <fizzie> It has aspects of the farcical; after losing in court, they appeal and demand a jury trial; the court of appeals surprisingly-ishly agrees and grants that; the jury unanimously says the same thing the court did; so now they want either a special overrule-the-jury judgement, or a new jury, because "the jury simply got it wrong" (direct quote). -2010-05-04.txt:18:07:16: <fizzie> AnMaster: the summer school thing was just a miscellaneous ad from my inbox. "Surprisingly" it wasn't related to novels in the book sense at all; was more about robotics and such. -2010-05-06.txt:16:56:01: <pikhq> nooga: Surprisingly, it works quite decently when you treat it a bit like Japanese does. -2010-05-08.txt:12:48:01: <alise> The end result is, surprisingly enough, custard. -2010-05-11.txt:22:02:10: <AnMaster> Rugxulo, that looks surprisingly modern -2010-05-12.txt:00:16:46: <oerjan> surprisingly integers have finite forms -2010-05-16.txt:01:53:20: <pikhq> Worked surprisingly well, though. -2010-05-22.txt:07:25:10: <Gregor> So I ran into a surprisingly ridiculous problem today. -2010-05-23.txt:06:59:02: <Gregor> Incidentally, I am eating this Reuben with a Sangria (sin alcohol), which is a surprisingly good combination. -2010-05-23.txt:20:39:12: <ais523> surprisingly little -2010-05-28.txt:21:41:36: <Sgeo_> alise, a surprisingly large number -2010-05-29.txt:21:25:32: <oerjan> it's surprisingly subtle how to do division -2010-06-01.txt:03:11:28: <alise> Wow, that's a surprisingly low rate of fuckerrors. -2010-06-06.txt:03:13:52: <alise> Surprisingly heavy! -2010-06-07.txt:13:02:45: <oerjan> surprisingly, there are interesting consequences. if * is surjective, then it's essentially a kind of linear function, and all linear functions of two variables have this property. -2010-06-18.txt:00:02:49: <ais523> I'm surprisingly bad with doors -2010-06-19.txt:10:45:00: <oklopol> division is surprisingly hard -2010-06-19.txt:20:28:12: <coppro> incidentally, I'm now disappointed I didn't find out about and join the PPCA earlier, because (unsurprisingly) I'm relatively moderate among members when it comes to my views -2010-06-21.txt:20:54:45: <oerjan> and surprisingly the answer is "all of them, using only 5 possible passing-on values" (the 5 i deduced myself from the article) -2010-06-27.txt:18:01:26: <fizzie> The Linux boot protocol is (surprisingly) well documented in Documentation/x86/boot.txt, though, so it's not hard to whip up a loader. -2010-06-30.txt:23:02:36: <ehirdiphone> Which I fail surprisingly often at because I'm not given a calculator and mental arithmetic is so tedious that I cut corners. -2010-07-01.txt:15:07:07: <ais523> come to think of it, JS and Lua are surprisingly similar languages -2010-07-04.txt:02:04:50: <ais523> it comes up surprisingly often, but people don't recognise it -2010-07-09.txt:05:20:46: <Gregor-P> Its tablet screen is surprisingly nice fo general navigation. -2010-07-16.txt:22:22:57: <cpressey> zzo38: Hm, I do (I use NASM) but it's short (surprisingly short) so it'll be easy to convert. -2010-07-26.txt:23:45:49: <cpressey> oerjan: It's surprisingly hard work, considering it's nothing. -2010-07-30.txt:14:03:53: <cpressey> <alise> "And what has he done..." <-- wow, i find that surprisingly offensive in a way i cannot readily describe -2010-08-01.txt:18:13:18: <fizzie> There's surprisingly many air-conditioning systems listed; I didn't even know those have remote control in general. -2010-08-07.txt:00:48:42: <alise> "Ed stories" is a surprisingly long book. -2010-08-12.txt:23:19:18: <fizzie> It's by a demoscene group, somewhat unsurprisingly. -2010-08-15.txt:05:02:18: <Sgeo_> Also, it made surprisingly good plays -2010-08-15.txt:18:45:44: <alise> This is a surprisingly active dlvl 1. -2010-08-16.txt:08:11:53: <zzo38> And people often say my programs are surprisingly small. So therefore it is not that much surprise...... -2010-08-18.txt:01:13:53: <alise> RDJA is surprisingly /catchy/. -2010-08-22.txt:20:40:15: <alise> Which is the most hacked-together yet surprisingly functional orgy ever. -2010-08-29.txt:03:10:22: <alise> this works surprisingly well -2010-09-06.txt:16:09:18: <cpressey> Unsurprisingly, the latest version of SIOD does not build out-of-the-box on Linux. This is unsurprising because the latest version of SIOD is from 1996. -2010-09-12.txt:19:05:59: <alise> Monaco renders surprisingly well here. -2010-09-19.txt:23:30:33: <Phantom_Hoover> And a pile of rust, which is really all that would remain of exposed structures after a surprisingly short time, is not very useful. -2010-09-20.txt:20:37:39: <alise> Of course, this is fundamentally probabilistic in the end; it may do something obviously stupid simply because it was never stupid before, and that's unavoidable. Still, stupid heuristics have surprisingly high success rates, I find... -2010-09-26.txt:15:31:19: <alise> Thus producing an ever-so-slightly broken but surprisingly-well-working 95-era interface on Win2k. -2010-09-28.txt:18:49:50: <Phantom_Hoover> It's holding out surprisingly well... -2010-10-06.txt:22:44:54: <alise> Surprisingly fast, too. -2010-10-06.txt:23:01:29: <alise> http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/2010/10/the-ly-domain-space-to-be-considered-unsafe/ Using domains in the TLDs of countries you can't trust: surprisingly, a bad idea! trust -2010-10-07.txt:14:02:38: <alise> This keyboard has surprisingly good tactile response for Logitech. -2010-10-07.txt:14:09:09: <fizzie> "Several" was rather surprisingly many, if I remember the case right. Certainly not the majority, though. -2010-10-07.txt:18:31:59: <alise> 1635 bytes of Python -- well, 1634, the newline at the end is irrelevant -- and, although it doesn't have monsters that actually fight you yet, it's surprisingly feature...ful -2010-10-07.txt:19:14:18: <Gregor> Which is surprisingly annoying to extract. -2010-10-07.txt:21:06:08: <ais523> also, it was a surprisingly non-eso project -2010-10-08.txt:19:44:13: <alise> pikhq: $19.23/month, paid annually. Actually that's surprisingly cheap... -2010-10-08.txt:20:56:13: <alise> surprisingly -2010-10-09.txt:03:01:11: <alise> I HAVE READ SURPRISINGLY LITTLE THINGS THAT I SHOULD HAVE -2010-10-10.txt:02:36:00: <alise> pikhq: Surprisingly, for a game released in 1997, it is *still regularly updated*. -2010-10-14.txt:01:01:04: <elliott> There are surprisingly few interwikis on [[en:fuck]]. -2010-10-15.txt:00:28:24: <elliott> pikhq: Unsurprisingly, it doesn't work. At all. -2010-10-15.txt:16:43:25: <cheater> surprisingly that has worked -2010-10-16.txt:19:41:15: <pikhq> Sgeo: It's actually a reasonable security model, surprisingly. -2010-10-16.txt:21:12:12: <olsner> his discoveries are all surprisingly recent too, I always thought the mandelbrot set and all that stuff was discovered in the 30s or something by a mandelbrot at least 50 years older than he actually was -2010-10-16.txt:21:16:57: <elliott> <olsner> his discoveries are all surprisingly recent too, I always thought the mandelbrot set and all that stuff was discovered in the 30s or something by a mandelbrot at least 50 years older than he actually was -2010-10-17.txt:22:53:09: <elliott> Surprisingly it's not hideous. -2010-10-19.txt:00:37:31: <elliott> (which was a surprisingly complete vi-esque interface to Visual Studio) -2010-10-19.txt:15:15:07: <catseye> ais523: i ...can't think of any, surprisingly -2010-10-21.txt:20:31:00: <quintopia> elliott: surprisingly few worthy of mention tho. compared to GPL. -2010-10-21.txt:22:12:08: <elliott> cpressey: i mean ruby is *surprisingly* close, but (1) THE FUCKING "COMMUNITY" and (2) it has a few really, really weird parts that just destroy it -2010-10-22.txt:23:11:55: <quintopia> human after all was surprisingly good -2010-10-23.txt:01:00:57: <elliott> surprisingly, i never had any bugs due to this. -2010-10-24.txt:13:33:15: <Phantom_Hoover> Watching Gregor's corpse freefall is surprisingly relaxing. -2010-10-25.txt:17:30:23: <fizzie> Looks surprisingly consistent. -2010-10-26.txt:00:03:09: <elliott> Vorpal: They've got surprisingly few for being continuously maintained since 1993. -2010-10-26.txt:05:57:56: <coppro> which Microsoft actually surprisingly beat them to -2010-10-28.txt:20:56:03: <elliott> ...wow, that was surprisingly awesome -2010-10-29.txt:02:54:07: <pikhq> Which, surprisingly, goes a long way in software. -2010-10-31.txt:17:09:13: <catseye> Vorpal: it's not bad. renders the table on the main page surprisingly well -2010-11-02.txt:06:39:52: <coppro> where our governments have a surprisingly strong 'old boss same as new boss' tendency -2010-11-05.txt:04:12:40: <coppro> for a surprisingly weak acid -2010-11-12.txt:20:20:59: <fizzie> Vorpal: Well, mine was a Wikipedia "Random article", unsurprisingly. -2010-11-13.txt:17:35:06: <Gregor> elliott: Yeah, I see that, but that still seems surprisingly lacking in douchebaggery for Apple ... -2010-11-22.txt:22:33:11: <oklopol> elliott: it's surprisingly hard to do anything, actually -2010-11-28.txt:08:05:04: <Gregor> I'm actually of surprisingly few heritages for a person whose family on both sides has been in the US for more than a century. -2010-11-28.txt:08:06:00: <pikhq> And I'm of surprisingly specifically-general heritage set. -2010-11-29.txt:15:08:15: <ais523\unfoog> elliott: anyway, being well-connected is a surprisingly useful skill -2010-12-03.txt:18:18:25: <quintopia> elliott: try the positional heuristic. i hear it's surprisingly good for how simple it is. -2010-12-04.txt:17:34:27: <elliott> Surprisingly, it's smaller than cat... -2010-12-04.txt:19:44:03: <Vorpal> Smmick, this channel is about esoteric programming languages, not esoterica btw. Surprisingly many get that wrong -2010-12-06.txt:20:03:08: <ais523> and it's a surprisingly simple scheme, resembling gzip's but with a much better ratio -2010-12-11.txt:02:53:22: <elliott> My eyes have adapted to staring at a computer screen for countless hours at a time. Surprisingly I don't need glasses and have better-than-average vision even after all these years... -2010-12-15.txt:16:54:56: <elliott> ais523: anyway, the apply function is surprisingly neat! -2010-12-15.txt:16:55:40: <elliott> ais523: http://sprunge.us/gZDO the guards are basically a half-assed excuse for not writing a proper validation function, and the do notation is unnecessary, but it's surprisingly simple -2010-12-16.txt:14:26:00: <ais523> I spent ages reading Apple's guidelines about Objective C memory management; they were, surprisingly, exactly the same as Perl uses internally -2010-12-16.txt:14:50:48: <ais523> and it's... surprisingly less irritating than I thought it would be -2010-12-16.txt:16:48:15: <ais523> (which is, surprisingly, actually useful on occasion) -2010-12-21.txt:00:22:06: <elliott> $(error Your work area is under a directory whose name contains a space. While it's possible to beat make into working with such directories, it's surprisingly hard and causes more problems than it solves. So, sorry, but don't do that) -2010-12-23.txt:20:26:18: <elliott> that was surprisingly painless -2010-12-24.txt:20:34:59: <elliott> asiek2erka: Um, because Christians went crusading to convert all the evil nonbelievers quite a while back and it worked surprisingly well ...? -2010-12-24.txt:20:36:45: <elliott> Surprisingly effective. -2010-12-31.txt:21:34:49: <Gregor> That worked surprisingly well for a typo. -2011-01-04.txt:19:29:13: <Phantom_Hoover_> elliott, it's worked surprisingly well so far. -[too many lines; stopping]
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--- a/paste/paste.7872 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,72 +0,0 @@ -2011-07-16.txt:05:00:56: <itidus20> hehe -2011-07-16.txt:08:14:16: <itidus20> hehehehe -2011-07-16.txt:20:20:51: <itidus20> hehe -2011-07-17.txt:04:15:05: <itidus20> hehe -2011-07-19.txt:21:14:41: <itidus20> hehe -2011-07-19.txt:23:29:40: <itidus20> hehe -2011-07-20.txt:20:56:44: <itidus20> hehehehe -2011-07-21.txt:03:14:00: <itidus20> hehe -2011-07-21.txt:03:23:52: <itidus20> hehe -2011-07-21.txt:07:23:03: <itidus20> heheh -2011-07-23.txt:11:19:52: <itidus20> hehehe -2011-07-24.txt:23:42:13: <itidus20> hehe -2011-07-25.txt:00:08:11: <itidus20> hehe -2011-07-25.txt:00:21:53: <itidus20> oerjan: hehe. indeed -2011-07-25.txt:01:47:29: <itidus20> hehe -2011-07-30.txt:15:49:26: <itidus20> hehehe -2011-07-31.txt:04:57:26: <itidus20> hehehehe -2011-08-01.txt:15:26:58: <itidus20> hehehehe -2011-08-04.txt:19:31:05: <itidus20> hehe -2011-08-04.txt:20:09:04: <itidus20> hehehe -2011-08-09.txt:17:12:18: <itidus20> heheheh -2011-08-09.txt:21:43:07: <itidus20> hehe -2011-08-09.txt:23:22:33: <itidus20> hehehe -2011-08-10.txt:18:21:24: <itidus20> hehe -2011-08-11.txt:16:02:51: <itidus20> hehe.. and you could have a rule that when it finds [1][1][0][1][1] it could rewrite it as [1][1][1][1] -2011-08-12.txt:18:36:12: <itidus20> hehehe -2011-08-12.txt:21:43:29: <itidus20> hehehhe -2011-08-12.txt:21:47:20: <itidus20> hehehhe oro -2011-08-13.txt:03:18:25: <itidus20> hehehe... -2011-08-14.txt:23:41:47: <itidus20> hehe -2011-08-16.txt:03:40:45: <itidus20> hehhehe -2011-08-16.txt:09:25:27: <itidus20> heheh -2011-08-18.txt:04:00:39: <itidus20> hehehe -2011-08-18.txt:22:06:33: <itidus20> hehe -2011-08-19.txt:07:26:44: <itidus20> hehehe -2011-08-19.txt:08:52:17: <itidus20> hehehe -2011-08-20.txt:08:29:08: <itidus20> hehehehehe -2011-08-22.txt:05:41:17: <itidus20> hehe -2011-08-25.txt:14:16:48: <itidus20> hehehe -2011-08-29.txt:17:43:39: <itidus20> hehe. -2011-09-02.txt:09:39:25: <itidus20> heheh -2011-09-11.txt:15:58:14: <itidus20> heheh -2011-09-11.txt:22:18:07: <itidus20> heheh ok ok -2011-09-13.txt:17:55:18: <itidus20> hehehe :-s -2011-09-13.txt:18:30:14: <itidus20> hehehe -2011-09-13.txt:22:52:18: <itidus20> hehehe -2011-09-14.txt:02:23:16: <itidus20> heheheh ok -2011-09-18.txt:08:40:32: <itidus21> hehe -2011-11-26.txt:05:41:39: <itidus21> hehe -2011-11-26.txt:06:12:58: <itidus21> heheh.... -2011-12-05.txt:22:34:43: <itidus20> hehe -2011-12-12.txt:16:43:12: <itidus21> hehe hehe -2011-12-15.txt:20:56:54: <itidus21> hehehe -2011-12-17.txt:21:44:43: <itidus20> hehe. ok i will let it be for now -2011-12-24.txt:22:59:13: <itidus21> hehehhe -2012-01-04.txt:06:14:39: <itidus21> hmm.. by violating everything near and dear about esolangs heheh -2012-01-05.txt:15:26:17: <itidus21> hehe -2012-01-06.txt:23:06:47: <itidus21> hehe -2012-01-08.txt:16:51:36: <itidus21> hehehe -2012-01-08.txt:17:00:51: <itidus21> hehehehe -2012-01-09.txt:21:27:41: <itidus21> hehe -2012-01-11.txt:17:19:51: <itidus21> hehe -2012-01-14.txt:22:17:58: <itidus21> hehe. see the math works -2012-02-01.txt:13:02:07: <itidus21> heheheh -2012-02-13.txt:20:30:17: <itidus20> hehe :-s -2012-02-14.txt:21:33:23: <itidus21> hehe -2012-02-18.txt:17:42:32: <itidus20> hehe -2012-02-23.txt:00:29:26: <itidus21> eheheh -2012-02-26.txt:01:44:56: <itidus21> hehe -2012-03-06.txt:18:23:05: <itidus21> hehe -2012-03-06.txt:19:27:05: <itidus21> `pastelogs itidus hehe -2012-03-06.txt:19:27:15: <elliott> `pastelogs <itidus.*hehe
--- a/paste/paste.7952 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,41 +0,0 @@ -2009-03-27.txt:04:31:30: <oerjan> and then you define a category where the objects are _functors_, and the morphisms are something called natural transformations -2009-03-27.txt:04:34:28: <oerjan> but functors and natural transformations are actually fairly _basic_ concepts in category theory -2009-03-27.txt:04:35:54: <oklowob> <oerjan> but functors and natural transformations are actually fairly _basic_ concepts in category theory <<< yeah okay i'm getting a boner here where can i learn this stuff 8| -2009-03-27.txt:15:48:21: <ehird> 03:35 oklowob: <oerjan> but functors and natural transformations are actually fairly _basic_ concepts in category theory <<< yeah okay i'm getting a boner here where can i learn this stuff 8| -2010-12-27.txt:01:24:47: <j-invariant> btw, if eta : F --> G is a natural transformation for functors F,G : C --> D. Then X : C |- etaX : FX --> GX -2011-02-02.txt:21:01:06: <elliott> Used when you really need both semi-mutual recursion and history and to repeatedly apply a natural transformation as you get deeper into the functor. Zygo implements semi-mutual recursion like a zygomorphism. Para gives you access to your result à la paramorphism. -2011-03-04.txt:03:25:10: <MonadsSuck> too many functors and natural transformations -2011-03-18.txt:19:32:07: <oerjan> there are natural transformations that make them almost inverses, though -2011-03-18.txt:19:36:23: <oerjan> that it is a natural transformation, i presume -2011-03-18.txt:19:36:55: <oklopol> oh one of those things natural transformations have between hom sets? -2011-03-18.txt:19:38:21: <oerjan> the bijection should _be_ a natural transformation when restricted to each variable (and taking the most obvious functors to be a transformation between) -2011-03-18.txt:19:38:55: <oklopol> a natural transformation between what functors? -2011-03-18.txt:19:42:21: <oerjan> and the bijection being a natural transformation between those is what it means to be "natural in Y" -2011-03-18.txt:19:47:24: <copumpkin> we should legislate against unnatural transformations -2011-03-18.txt:20:30:26: <oklopol> i'm sure this would be perfectly easy on paper, but i still find natural transformations kinda hard to picture when they occur in a "concrete" situation -2011-08-15.txt:22:42:02: <augur> natural transformations and adjunctions, for instance -2011-08-15.txt:22:42:42: <augur> you need natural transformations before monads -2011-08-15.txt:22:43:43: <augur> elliott_: haskell uses the relevant natural transformations you know -2011-08-15.txt:22:44:40: <augur> but the natural transformation stuff perhaps! -2011-08-15.txt:22:46:48: <oerjan> <elliott_> augur: So it'll be trying to cover only that CT that Haskell uses <-- but you need natural transformations to properly understand parametricity. i think. -2011-08-15.txt:22:47:17: <augur> oerjan: parametric polymorphism is basically natural transformations -2011-08-15.txt:22:47:51: <oklopol> surely it's natural transformations in some category -2011-09-01.txt:01:16:40: <oerjan> there were some natural transformations and K-theory -2011-10-01.txt:04:42:31: <CakeProphet> it's just that the eta for monads is a natural transformation. -2011-10-02.txt:06:15:55: <oerjan> collect and uncollect are probably natural transformations -2011-10-02.txt:06:17:38: <oerjan> collect is a natural transformation from the functor Barrier _ () t to the functor [_], although only the second one is a Functor in the haskell sense -2011-10-02.txt:06:20:53: <oerjan> then collect . barrierFrontMap h = map h . collect, the equation for it being a natural transformation -2012-01-08.txt:18:06:21: <Phantom_Hoover> Like, he defines and explains natural transformations in half a page, and then gives examples for the next two. -2012-01-27.txt:12:33:08: <oerjan> `run echo "A lens is a monoidal natural transformation between higher-order coalgebra functors" >wisdom/lens -2012-01-27.txt:12:33:30: <HackEgo> A lens is a monoidal natural transformation between higher-order coalgebra functors -2012-02-09.txt:22:17:08: <HackEgo> A lens is a monoidal natural transformation between higher-order coalgebra functors -2012-03-01.txt:00:10:04: <tswett> What's up with natural transformations? -2012-03-01.txt:00:10:18: <oerjan> `? natural transformation -2012-03-01.txt:00:10:21: <HackEgo> natural transformation? ¯\(°_o)/¯ -2012-03-01.txt:00:11:00: <tswett> If that's what a functor is, is a natural transformation anything? -2012-03-01.txt:00:11:19: <oerjan> `learn Natural transformations are just morphisms in the category of functors -2012-03-01.txt:00:11:50: <oerjan> `run mv wisdom/natural wisdom/"natural transformation" -2012-03-01.txt:00:12:00: <oerjan> `? natural transformation -2012-03-01.txt:00:12:03: <HackEgo> Natural transformations are just morphisms in the category of functors -2012-03-01.txt:00:13:12: <oerjan> tswett: the functors are the domains and codomains of the natural transformations. -2012-03-01.txt:00:14:21: <itidus21> `pastelogs natural transformation
--- a/paste/paste.8264 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,22 +0,0 @@ -2010-12-12.txt:02:21:54: <Vorpal> elliott, "In spring of this year on the IRC channel I proposed a language called ℒ. ℒ is a severely restricted subset of your favourite indisputably Turing-complete language (say, Pascal) -- so severely restricted, in fact, that you can only write a single program in ℒ. But that program is a Universal Turing Machine simulator. Is ℒ Turing-complete? " -2011-07-08.txt:03:55:05: <elliott> Well... you only need two nested loops to implement BF in BF, and they're of finite, short length, but this is the ℒ debacle all over again. -2011-10-15.txt:18:30:37: <elliott> You can compile any TC language to any other TC language (modulo ℒ). -2011-10-15.txt:18:37:59: <elliott> <elliott> You can compile any TC language to any other TC language (modulo ℒ). -2011-10-15.txt:18:42:15: <Phantom___Hoover> <elliott> <elliott> You can compile any TC language to any other TC language (modulo ℒ). -2011-10-15.txt:18:42:33: <Phantom___Hoover> It's not just modulo ℒ, it's modulo which definition you use. -2011-10-15.txt:18:42:47: <elliott> Phantom___Hoover: I don't think anyone seriously believes ℒ is TC. -2011-10-15.txt:18:43:00: <elliott> Phantom___Hoover: Anyway, ℒ relies on input. -2011-10-15.txt:18:43:09: <Phantom___Hoover> You're using the compilation definition; ℒ is designed to flag up the absurdity of the UTM definition. -2011-10-15.txt:18:43:34: <elliott> If you embed the input into the program, then... congratulations, ℒ is a Brainfuck derivative where you have to escape the string according to Pascal's rule. -2011-10-15.txt:18:44:00: <elliott> Phantom___Hoover: So no, ℒ only demonstrates the absurdity of naively mixing input into the definition. -2011-10-15.txt:18:44:31: <elliott> Phantom___Hoover: The whole point of ℒ is that it contains a program that can be made to compute anything a UTM can /given the appropriate input/. -2011-10-15.txt:18:45:07: <elliott> Phantom___Hoover: Define ℒ for me. -2011-10-15.txt:18:45:24: <Phantom___Hoover> For every pair of a Turing-complete language L and a program P written in L that simulates a universal Turing machine (for example, by being an interpreter for a Turing-complete language) (L,P) is a member of ℒ. -2011-10-15.txt:18:48:30: <elliott> Phantom___Hoover: The UTM definition doesn't include any notion of input, so how the fuck does ℒ show it absurd? -2012-02-22.txt:19:46:11: <elliott> And call it ℒ. -2012-02-22.txt:19:46:32: <elliott> So it's ℒ(Pascal,BF interpreter) you have to prove Turing whatever. -2012-02-23.txt:03:22:32: <tswett> How come ℒ is in Unicode but a plain old italic L isn't? -2012-02-23.txt:18:20:19: <Friendship> Given that the computational class of ℒ is unclear, but there are languages which are plainly within its computational class, we can create a new (and intentionally ambiguous) computational class to describe it. ℒ-equivalent machines are those abstract machines for which the ability to describe all universal Turing machines is predicated upon the status of input or some other state which may be considered external to the machine proper. The set of ℒ-equ -2012-02-23.txt:18:20:19: <Friendship> ivalent machines is clearly a subset of [[Turing machines]], but whether it is a proper subset is a matter of philosophy. A language is said to be ℒ-hard if there exists a program in that language which is in ℒ, and ℒ-complete if it is ℒ-hard and not [[Turing-complete]]. -2012-02-23.txt:18:27:04: <elliott> @tell Gregor "ℒ was originally described to generalize the question raised by Befunge/index.php." not quite true -2012-02-23.txt:18:29:07: <Friendship> `pastelogs ℒ
--- a/paste/paste.858 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,301 +0,0 @@ -2005-06-07.txt:19:40:12: <graue> i think i may have just disproved the "universal Turing machines need state diagrams that are nonplanar graphs" conjecture: http://www.oceanbase.org/graue/archway/archway.txt -2005-07-20.txt:00:37:35: <GregorR> Now, I may be going out on a limb, but it seems to me that you like the idea of non-textuality? :) -2005-07-27.txt:11:47:56: <Gs30ng> i'm obfuscated. i may give up turing completeness -2005-07-27.txt:12:51:46: <Gs30ng> that's right but i may add 5 times udage operation -2005-07-27.txt:23:29:30: <GregorR> graue: Does that actually run things? I may be thinking backwards... -2005-08-17.txt:00:25:22: <Gs30ng> i may be kicked -2005-11-07.txt:15:23:53: <graue> I'm looking for comments, since I may have stupidly left something out -2006-01-19.txt:23:29:13: <GregorR-L> If you grab 0.7 and provide me with the output to the test compilation, I may or may not be able to port it :P -2006-05-26.txt:17:27:15: <GregorR-W> I may have just forgetten -R2234:localhost:22 -2006-07-26.txt:19:32:54: <GregorR-W> If I knew how-t-f a hadamard transform worked, I may be able to pseudo-write something in QBF :P -2006-08-09.txt:17:47:40: <GregorR-W> I may retract that :P -2006-08-20.txt:22:02:11: <GregorR> And I may put it on merch if said merch has a bunch of 'em. -2006-08-24.txt:22:30:22: <GregorR-W> Arrogant: Not at the moment, I may add a syntax for it but I'm sort of out ot symbols XD -2006-09-01.txt:20:30:22: <GregorR-W> I think I may go with dup. -2006-10-14.txt:01:12:37: <GregorR-L> If it was just a bit messy, I may be inclined to clean it myself. If it's a total mess, feel free to make a branch ;) -2006-10-23.txt:23:16:29: <Asztal> Oops, I may have sent that twice. -2006-12-20.txt:05:15:37: <GregorR> OH ... I thought it was 'this', but I'm starting to think I may not have implemented that in dplof 8-X -2006-12-20.txt:05:15:49: <GregorR> Shoot ... I may have forgotten to put that in >_> -2007-03-15.txt:22:42:16: <GregorR> I haven't used that syntax in a while, I may be a bit off ;) -2007-03-26.txt:17:26:05: <ais523> My interpreter now does everything but GET and INPUT. INPUT's like gets() anyway, in that it's impossible to use without a chance of the user invoking undefined behaviour, so I may as well just program GET now. -2007-04-02.txt:20:26:59: <GregorR> :{ is a thick function, a function that the return will conclude at. A { is a thin function. I may be able to remove this distinction with my latest change, or not :) -2007-04-25.txt:02:54:35: <GregorR> I suppose I may have to *sigh* -2007-07-09.txt:21:39:32: <edwardk> if a type is unpointed then its always safe for me to evaluate it in a strict manner, this is actually more liberal than strictness analysis, because strictness says i need the answer, but in this case i say that i may not need the answer, but if you speculate and evaluate it -2007-08-02.txt:03:33:03: <bsmntbombdood> i may have to take another look at haskell -2007-08-02.txt:15:36:06: <asiekierka> I may do just 96kb ram -2007-08-02.txt:15:46:20: <asiekierka> i may... -2007-08-02.txt:19:32:25: <asiekierka> i may delete his brain -2007-08-10.txt:11:10:56: <asiekierka> i may send you the code -2007-08-18.txt:20:05:55: <ehird`> and preferably not mention Kajir directly - though i may relax this if a really good one is suggested -2007-09-21.txt:19:00:21: <GregorR> Because the alternative is to arbitrarily limit the grammars, and that's a bit tough to do. I may not use an NPDA if it turns out to be too bad. -2007-09-21.txt:22:34:43: <GregorR> For reasons I may never understand, my NPDA parser seems to be operating with linear complexity ... even though that's impossible. I need a more complex grammar :P -2007-09-21.txt:23:10:54: <GregorR> I may have even implemented that ;) -2007-09-22.txt:01:29:11: <edwardk> i'm currently lazy and side effect free, but i may revert to a pathological reduction rule i used to use that i like which is worst-case lazy or strict. whatever it wants to do. so you have to make sure all of your reductions are confluent. -2007-10-23.txt:23:39:46: <ehird1> ok, i may not know what the fuck i'm talking about -2007-11-04.txt:18:48:40: <ehird`> though i may change that -2007-11-04.txt:18:49:11: <ehird`> although, i may represent them as python lists [1,2,3] -2007-11-19.txt:22:55:38: <ehird`> i am not 4! Although I may be like the number 4. :P -2007-11-20.txt:17:22:52: <ehird`> i may not be right -2007-11-21.txt:16:07:01: <ais523> "I think Malbolge needs an update. I may write Visual M++ 2008 Extra Ultimate Edition if I'm feeling bored some weekend." -2007-11-21.txt:16:48:01: <GregorR> pikhq: OMG, that's so brilliant I may have to switch to EMACS :P -2007-11-21.txt:18:43:37: <ehird`> although admittedly i may be wrong having no idea what it means -2007-11-21.txt:19:48:29: <ais523> is the regex that I used (retyped, so I may have typoed) -2007-11-21.txt:19:56:57: <ehird`> since i may call "shoes" in a directory with a relative path -2007-11-21.txt:20:02:27: <ehird`> because I may do "notshoes /abs/path" -2007-11-22.txt:19:32:15: <bsmnt_bot> I may as well say hello too -2007-12-30.txt:22:25:12: <ehird`_> I may be totally wrong! :D -2008-01-10.txt:19:10:10: <ehird`> i may need some thinking to understand this -2008-01-16.txt:20:28:05: <Asztal> my web host give me one free registration per year, so I may as well get this one back. -2008-01-20.txt:18:58:44: <Geekthras> I tried 11 but I may have failed... -2008-01-25.txt:19:13:18: <ehird> (I may have to start my own reli^H^H^H^Hlanguage that's like haskell, BUT CRAZIER) -2008-02-04.txt:18:54:19: <ehird`> i may have to use the web archie -2008-02-05.txt:21:07:02: <ais523> I may have to get on with writing my Underload/Unlambda/Brainfuck hybrid lang -2008-02-06.txt:17:13:18: <ais523> yes, well I may as well write idiomatically given the existence of the language -2008-02-19.txt:19:56:12: <ais523> I may improve it at some point -2008-02-21.txt:20:36:51: <ais523> I remember reading something about an eager implementation of Y, though, I may have to look it up -2008-02-22.txt:01:32:28: <ehird> SOXP is not a main project. I may code some relatively interesting bits -2008-02-28.txt:18:17:53: <ehird`> i may make it reevaluate for the sake of better error messages -2008-02-28.txt:23:41:02: <ehird`> lament: I may rewrite it in Haskell. -2008-03-04.txt:21:53:46: <ais523> (that URL was retyped, so I may have got it wrong) -2008-03-06.txt:22:01:48: <AnMaster> actually once I get this working, I may do a C version -2008-03-07.txt:20:01:28: <AnMaster> got more time now, so I may rejoin -2008-03-08.txt:00:12:58: <ais523|sl_busy> luckily it doesn't say which drive is formatted, so as long as I have a floppy disk I may be alright -2008-03-11.txt:21:49:50: <AnMaster> I may have a off by one issue with ; -2008-03-12.txt:19:12:45: <AnMaster> I may need to replace hash array if it turns out to be bad, but the way I coded it replacing is easy -2008-03-14.txt:15:23:20: <AnMaster> oklofix, I may make some program that puts pastes on my gopher server -2008-03-14.txt:20:49:31: <AnMaster> and I may very well be wrong -2008-03-15.txt:17:46:15: <ais523> I may do at some point -2008-03-16.txt:22:53:21: <AnMaster> how, if I may ask, would the return statement look? -2008-03-17.txt:20:22:50: <ais523> I may implement it in C-INTERCAL some time soon, but I'd use the line number 1666 so as to use a line number already reserved for the compiler -2008-03-18.txt:15:59:15: <AnMaster> if not I may add a SCK6 ;) -2008-03-20.txt:12:12:07: <AnMaster> but just to prove that I'm mad I may do it -2008-03-20.txt:12:13:51: <AnMaster> anyway I may implement SGNL, not sure -2008-03-31.txt:16:50:43: <AnMaster> ais523, I may decide to depend on a working fork if you try to make it run on dos ;) -2008-03-31.txt:17:52:38: <AnMaster> ehird, well I may do MODE -2008-04-01.txt:21:48:40: <AnMaster> ais523, depends, I may use non _r stuff -2008-04-01.txt:22:08:20: <ais523> BTW, the CLC-INTERCAL maintainer gave me some clues on how to do an IRC client in CLC-INTERCAL, so I may have a go at that -2008-04-01.txt:22:52:03: <ais523> oh well, conversation seems to have died now, and it seems unlikely I'll get many more requests for help, bugfixes, etc. right now, so I may as well go home -2008-04-03.txt:14:15:04: <ais523> sounds like an interesting idea, I may install it -2008-04-03.txt:18:06:57: <AnMaster> oklopol, tell me when you are done, I may be afk -2008-04-04.txt:11:49:43: <AnMaster> Deewiant, I may get access to a solaris on ultrasparc system next week (or it may be freebsd on ultrasparc), plan to test it on it if I can -2008-04-04.txt:15:08:36: <ais523> AnMaster: it's not publically online, but as it lost I may as well paste it -2008-04-04.txt:18:17:47: <AnMaster> but if the source is available I may be able to do something based on it -2008-04-05.txt:15:54:52: <ais523> !ul (I may as well say hi too)S -2008-04-09.txt:11:54:33: <AnMaster> I may make such a fingerprint later, hmm.... -2008-04-11.txt:18:08:40: <ais523> AnMaster: I may have to do that in future -2008-04-12.txt:16:04:38: <AnMaster> then I may help writing some code -2008-04-16.txt:13:40:14: <AnMaster> I may totally wrong -2008-04-21.txt:12:57:21: <ais523> I may switch to that when I have the time -2008-04-21.txt:13:06:07: <ais523> and I may need to take action concerning them -2008-04-22.txt:03:57:03: <ehird> I may or may not be tired. -2008-04-23.txt:18:17:44: <ehird> also, i may suggest that you use more qw when generating perl code -2008-04-24.txt:18:22:54: <ais523> I may create a new user afterwards just to see what it looks like by default -2008-04-27.txt:00:28:28: <evincarofautumn> Each thread has only one associated attractor. I think I may not have made that clear. -2008-05-01.txt:16:57:10: <ehird> pikhq: It's kinda like anti-Christianity: pi may not be used anywhere if not given in full. -2008-05-01.txt:17:17:04: <ais523> ehird: I'm surprised there isn't a Perl entry, I think it's got a command to do that, but I may be wrong -2008-05-03.txt:15:53:52: <AnMaster> try ranting to ANSI maybe ;) -2008-05-03.txt:18:01:07: <AnMaster> however I suspect I may make no gc the default in future at some point -2008-05-06.txt:17:46:33: <ais523> it's really lousy, though, I may rewrite it in an esolang at some stage -2008-05-06.txt:20:20:49: <Deewiant> I may or may not have -2008-05-06.txt:20:48:25: <ais523> I may have transposed the map by mistake -2008-05-07.txt:20:28:36: <ais523> so all 8 commands are useful, and I may as well give them the names they have in BF -2008-05-07.txt:20:50:55: <ais523> I may have been added to www-data, but my instance of bash wasn't -2008-05-07.txt:22:56:29: <ais523> I may need to add a floating-point type -2008-05-08.txt:15:36:35: <ais523> I may even learn it at some point -2008-05-14.txt:14:50:11: <ehird> hmm, I may have to include the class body as a string -2008-05-15.txt:19:33:11: <AnMaster> kar8nga, well next week I may not be around -2008-05-15.txt:19:41:43: <AnMaster> also I may not be reachable next week -2008-05-16.txt:21:52:08: <GregorR> I think NT 4 predates '95 by a bit, I may be wrong. -2008-05-21.txt:16:20:32: <ehird> augur: i may have meant to #esoteric -2008-06-02.txt:21:57:35: <ais523> I may end up using it for unary operators, like Haskell does -2008-06-04.txt:19:55:07: <ais523> hmm... I may have to write an INTERCAL syntax highlighter for it -2008-06-05.txt:19:40:58: <tusho> i may or may not be the one known as ehird, pikhq -2008-06-14.txt:17:43:25: <ais523> and neither was I, I may have to leave in a bit -2008-06-15.txt:18:39:29: <tusho> i may be wrong. -2008-06-17.txt:17:22:05: <ais523> I may download it just to help them set the record -2008-06-19.txt:19:29:11: <ais523> I may end up having to reimplement it or something silly like that, that's how projects often go -2008-06-19.txt:23:15:31: <AnMaster> ais523, I may write an ebuild for c-intercal -2008-06-19.txt:23:18:19: <ais523> I may have to look into that -2008-06-23.txt:20:09:32: <AnMaster> I may not in future -2008-06-23.txt:22:11:05: <ais523> I may try that -2008-06-23.txt:22:21:51: <ais523> I may have one already as a test, let me check -2008-06-24.txt:15:51:14: <AnMaster> I may be wrong about that -2008-06-24.txt:20:35:12: <ais523> I may have to end up storing several -2008-06-24.txt:21:24:45: <AnMaster> I'm sure it would make stuff hard for you so I may not do it -2008-06-24.txt:22:04:29: <AnMaster> ais523, so when I'm here (I may be away tomorrow) are there any more cfunge questions? -2008-06-27.txt:14:47:22: <AnMaster> I may need it in the future, it would be a optional hook -2008-06-27.txt:14:51:54: <ais523> I may do that, it's in the spirit of the rest of the code -2008-06-29.txt:13:44:51: <AnMaster> oklopol, when python can be compiled to native machine code I may change opinion -2008-07-01.txt:16:46:12: <AnMaster> ais523, I may be wrong -2008-07-02.txt:00:30:41: <AnMaster> that day I may consider D -2008-07-02.txt:00:52:31: <AnMaster> well once tango is default and it is easy to set up I may consider D -2008-07-03.txt:17:14:33: <ais523> besides, it's possible that some day I may want the rest of C-INTERCAL to look at those flags for some reason -2008-07-03.txt:17:41:58: <ais523> besides CLC-INTERCAL has file I/O so I may end up implementing that at some point -2008-07-03.txt:20:00:38: <AnMaster> I may use genx later -2008-07-03.txt:21:05:48: <AnMaster> pikhq, once it works properly I may be interested -2008-07-03.txt:21:07:03: <AnMaster> once it works on x86_64 and is in portage I may be interested -2008-07-04.txt:18:11:34: <tusho> (I may just make it shell out to perl; dunno) -2008-07-05.txt:20:16:54: <AnMaster> Deewiant, well some I won't implement, and some I may implement later -2008-07-05.txt:20:56:06: <tusho> "yeah, I was on drugs when I wrote that" "I may or may not have been under the influence of halluciogenic effects when I wrote that message. Note that I don't support the use of drugs in any way or form" -2008-07-06.txt:17:27:08: <tusho> don't think OS X has a /dev/ file for audio though, I may be wrong -2008-07-07.txt:19:27:55: <AnMaster> but I may drop that -2008-07-07.txt:20:31:08: <AnMaster> Deewiant, implement TRDS in pure minifunge and I may be interested -2008-07-07.txt:21:58:16: <AnMaster> I may make some patches to fix valgrind issues if I have time -2008-07-07.txt:23:13:03: <ais523> I may have screwed up make's dependencies somewhere -2008-07-08.txt:16:26:06: <AnMaster> tusho, however I may not be a real man, if you define that as masochism -2008-07-09.txt:17:52:56: <ais523> it sounds like I may have to do a few fixes to the Windows build system... -2008-07-09.txt:17:53:25: <ais523> I may be able to guess based on those -2008-07-14.txt:22:01:33: <ais523> I think I may have an encryption key that's 000 somewhere -2008-07-15.txt:22:44:57: <ais523> I think I may have to restart writing the interp a third time -2008-07-16.txt:11:40:42: <AnMaster> hrrm I think ccbi may wrap on TOYS L -2008-07-16.txt:15:13:24: <AnMaster> tusho, well iirc it was BCT, but I may be wrong -2008-07-20.txt:19:37:36: <AnMaster> if you make no progress I may implement it myself -2008-07-20.txt:19:44:51: <AnMaster> pikhq, interesting, I may code a compiler to C code, could be fun -2008-07-22.txt:17:45:11: <AnMaster> I may get the full optimizing working later -2008-07-23.txt:18:32:32: <Deewiant> AnMaster: can't remember. it doesn't support many fingerprints (NULL and ROMA only IIRC) so I may not even have tested it. -2008-07-24.txt:21:28:59: <AnMaster> Deewiant, well yes I may fix the webui stuff tomorrow -2008-07-25.txt:20:15:43: <AnMaster> tusho, once it has micro typography I may consider xetex -2008-08-01.txt:00:57:40: <adu> so I may just have to think up some higher-order thing like Monads or something to deal with it cuz I want to write just "[True: 3, False: 4] False" == 4 -2008-08-04.txt:15:54:12: <AnMaster> so I may be hard to reach -2008-08-04.txt:15:55:59: <ais523> well, in that case I may end up calling a fingerprint apt://nethack to annoy people -2008-08-07.txt:16:11:15: <dogface_> I do have a set of ideas I call "Not the Tallest of Orders". I may implement them. -2008-08-08.txt:01:45:02: <dogface> Actually, I guess food isn't generally considered a type of prosthetic, so I may have to reconsider some things. -2008-08-08.txt:15:06:15: <asiekierka> i may -2008-08-08.txt:21:00:10: <AnMaster> MikeRiley, hrrm I may implement DATE, have still to track down that elusive t bug -2008-08-08.txt:21:24:15: <ais523> I may have to get tusho to finish making ESO usable in a hurry -2008-08-08.txt:21:29:18: <tusho> [21:24:16] <ais523> I may have to get tusho to finish making ESO usable in a hurry -2008-08-10.txt:12:04:22: <AnMaster> anyway I may or may not implement it -2008-08-11.txt:12:03:30: <asiekierka> also, i may make a support for a PS/2 keyboard slot -2008-08-12.txt:16:21:41: <asiekierka> i may make an interp for a different lang maybe -2008-08-12.txt:19:17:02: <AnMaster> that I may never implement -2008-08-13.txt:11:40:38: <AnMaster> I may have locked it up -2008-08-15.txt:17:07:34: <asiekierka> Then i may find a better server -2008-08-15.txt:21:13:46: <tusho> oklopol: Uh, I may have pilfered a few samples. :P -2008-08-15.txt:21:19:10: <ais523> and yes, I know what I meant, but seeing as I'm an electronic engineer (in training) I may as well show off when a question in my field actually comes up, which is rarely -2008-08-17.txt:07:47:38: <asiekierka> i may do a Screebles Game -2008-08-18.txt:17:33:12: <asiekierka> i think i may know -2008-08-19.txt:21:27:54: <AnMaster> MikeRiley, but I may make a variant that allows blocking just one IP (somewhat like SCKE) -2008-08-20.txt:17:26:20: <AnMaster> Deewiant, well I may be logged in on gmail still -2008-08-21.txt:18:01:53: <AnMaster> Deewiant, well I may not implement it of course -2008-08-22.txt:15:02:55: <AnMaster> or I may remember that wrong -2008-08-24.txt:16:59:41: <AnMaster> well if you made a debugger for it, then I may also implement it -2008-08-24.txt:19:43:39: <AnMaster> hm I may implement SCKE only -2008-08-30.txt:18:38:48: <tusho> AnMaster. i may be 13. -2008-08-30.txt:19:50:05: <AnMaster> funktio, not sure, I may remember wrong -2008-09-01.txt:20:35:46: <ais523> easy enough to fix though, so I may as well -2008-09-01.txt:21:07:56: <AnMaster> ais523, I may have a m4 macro to check if an option is supported -2008-09-02.txt:21:43:25: <AnMaster> then I may answer -2008-09-02.txt:21:51:39: <ais523> AnMaster: I may have been sarcastic over my past few comments -2008-09-04.txt:12:48:21: <ais523> incidentally, I think I may be writing the world's first linker that's written in Perl and uses regexen for just about everything -2008-09-04.txt:13:38:46: <ais523> well, I do to some extent, I don't like offending prudes because I may need favours from them later -2008-09-07.txt:17:39:41: <AnMaster> Deewiant, ok, I may have a non-recent version here -2008-09-07.txt:17:40:04: <tusho> So. Anyone want to sway my domain choice from tusho.net? (.net is effectively general like .com but .com looks bad for a personal site to me, .org is kind of correct but 1. i may wanna sell somethign on there that I made at some point..dunno what 2. i'm not an organization 3. the g dangling looks weird compared to the tusho, and .name looks kinda weird as in "tusho.name" - it's the "correct" one to use, but I don't like how "name" is as big as "tusho" when "t -2008-09-07.txt:17:40:37: <tusho> So. Anyone want to sway my domain choice from tusho.net? (.net is effectively general like .com but .com looks bad for a personal site to me, .org is kind of correct but 1. i may wanna sell somethign on there that I made at some point..dunno what 2. i'm not an organization 3. the g dangling looks weird compared to the tusho, and .name looks kinda weird as in "tusho.name" - it's the "correct" one to use, but I don't like how "name" is as big as "tusho" when "t -2008-09-07.txt:17:42:10: <tusho> So. Anyone want to sway my domain choice from tusho.net? (.net is effectively general like .com but .com looks bad for a personal site to me, .org is kind of correct but 1. i may wanna sell somethign on there that I made at some point..dunno what 2. i'm not an organization 3. the g dangling looks weird compared to the tusho, and .name looks kinda weird as in "tusho.name" - it's the "correct" one to use, but I don't like how "name" is as big as "tusho" when -2008-09-07.txt:17:42:12: <tusho> So. Anyone want to sway my domain choice from tusho.net? (.net is effectively general like .com but .com looks bad for a personal site to me, .org is kind of correct but 1. i may wanna sell somethign on there that I made at some point..dunno what 2. i'm not an organization 3. the g dangling looks weird compared to the tusho, and .name looks kinda weird as in "tusho.name" - it's the "correct" one to use, but I don't like how "name" is as big as "tusho" when -2008-09-08.txt:22:46:43: <ais523> and if we're going that root I may as well just port Linux and have done with it -2008-09-11.txt:19:22:25: <AnMaster> tusho, I may actually implement that, probably not, but I don't rule out the possibility -2008-09-12.txt:16:07:08: <ais523> well I'm not using libtool yet, but I may do at some point, it makes sense for libick.a to really be libick.so -2008-09-12.txt:16:13:57: <AnMaster> /opt is also for package manager, but I may use it if I have to, since you can do one directory for the program that way, but it has the downside of library search path again -2008-09-12.txt:16:20:17: <AnMaster> and if I find it useful I may put it in the PATH -2008-09-15.txt:15:22:49: <AnMaster> otherwise I may just use the long one -2008-09-15.txt:20:15:08: <ais523> I may have to research a fixed setjmp-by-hand -2008-09-18.txt:21:35:20: <AnMaster> ais523, well I may do both -2008-09-19.txt:22:26:45: <AnMaster> actually I may have a webcam around -2008-09-20.txt:18:08:44: <ais523> but I may as well if it leads to better code -2008-09-20.txt:19:27:15: <ais523> I may go soon, just because I need something to drink -2008-09-22.txt:19:01:35: <ais523> well, I may write the bytecode version some time in which the program is stored in the same memory as the data -2008-09-22.txt:21:51:35: <ais523> I may have to move to another one after a year or so anyway -2008-09-23.txt:16:04:33: <tusho> i think i may need a new chair -2008-09-23.txt:18:15:19: <AnMaster> but I may be wrong since you failed to explain how feather actually works ;P -2008-09-23.txt:20:15:21: <AnMaster> tusho, I may not have the money -2008-09-29.txt:14:37:31: <ais523> hmm... if I have time, I may help -2008-09-29.txt:16:19:19: <ais523> so by analysing BFBASIC to see how it generates code I may have a shot at decompiling Lost Kingdoms -2008-09-30.txt:14:23:50: <ais523> nobody's going to see this line anyway, probably, so I may as well write whatever I like -2008-10-02.txt:22:46:43: <AnMaster> ais523, well it is reasonable since int should be word size iirc? However I may be wrong -2008-10-03.txt:13:35:33: <ehird> ais523: you still haven't named it, i may have heard of it in the back of my mind :-) -2008-10-03.txt:13:54:21: <AnMaster> oerjan, I think "ör" in Swedish have something to do with fishing, though I may very well be confusing it with some similar word. Fishing never really interested me -2008-10-07.txt:16:59:12: <ais523> I may manage to generalise it some day -2008-10-08.txt:16:39:02: <asiekierka> I think i may do a input command, just for the sake of making an Underload bot -2008-10-08.txt:17:40:58: <asiekierka> I may do an esolang... maybe. Should i? -2008-10-09.txt:20:30:22: <asiekierka> Taxi may be good -2008-10-09.txt:20:34:31: <AnMaster> asiekierka, well Taxi maybe -2008-10-10.txt:19:31:56: <asiekierka> I may see it -2008-10-11.txt:09:47:27: <asiekierka> If i'll have problems, i may -2008-10-11.txt:11:01:37: <asiekierka> And then, i may show the world the first Taxi bo -2008-10-11.txt:11:28:25: <asiekierka> i may make a RUBE II bot -2008-10-13.txt:18:57:37: <ais523> so I may make a batch file to use it correctly -2008-10-15.txt:16:50:08: <ais523> fizzie: good to know, I may fix them at some point -2008-10-16.txt:22:07:14: <AnMaster> ab5tract, in a sec I may be asleep -2008-10-17.txt:13:56:16: <AnMaster> ehird, feel free to work out a sensible way for how they interact then, I may even use it -2008-10-17.txt:18:39:39: <AnMaster> ais523, actually I think I may have forgot a meta -2008-10-21.txt:13:13:13: <GregorR> Well, it's a joint research project with IBM so I may not be able to say more. -2008-10-22.txt:15:26:11: <asiekierka> Anyway, I may write some other esolangs -2008-10-22.txt:18:05:35: <asiekierka> Hm. If i knew what 3-sat is, i MAY have found it interesting -2008-10-22.txt:18:21:37: <asiekierka> i may go off for a sec again too -2008-10-24.txt:11:13:23: <AnMaster> I *think* I may have a working solution to the issue with funge space bounds updates -2008-10-27.txt:19:49:23: <AnMaster> well I'll check later, for now I got to move a few computers around, I may lose connection shortly (or it may work without dropping the connection) -2008-10-29.txt:22:25:55: <AnMaster> fizzie, I may have forgotten -2008-10-30.txt:18:50:16: <AnMaster> GregorR, I may use jsmips -2008-11-04.txt:19:32:52: <AnMaster> ehird, ah I think I may have had a look at their website once before -2008-11-05.txt:20:57:08: <AnMaster> I think I may need to restart router -2008-11-06.txt:03:41:25: <GregorR> I'm not playing your game, and as such I am not following your rules. Since I am not following your rules, I may object to anything you say for any reason. Since I'm not playing by your rules, my objections have no bearing on anything. -2008-11-06.txt:19:46:17: <AnMaster> whoo I shaved another 0.10 seconds of mycology run time in cfunge. I think I may do even better -2008-11-09.txt:16:51:44: <AnMaster> I may have misunderstood that page, but... -2008-11-11.txt:21:35:33: <AnMaster> ais523, anyway I may use other stuff from librt at some point -2008-11-13.txt:14:37:40: <AnMaster> I may be able to help -2008-11-17.txt:19:13:13: <AnMaster> I may make patches :P -2008-11-17.txt:23:10:10: <AnMaster> ais523, I may not be able to trigger a case where it fails at runtime -2008-11-22.txt:16:41:20: <AnMaster> I may do that later -2008-11-27.txt:20:21:05: <AnMaster> iirc he went way way off topic in a bad way a bit ago, I may unignore next week -2008-11-27.txt:20:30:16: <ehird> 12:21:05 <AnMaster> iirc he went way way off topic in a bad way a bit ago, I may unignore next week -2008-12-04.txt:17:13:49: <ais523> Slereah: I may be happier with Flash once there's an alternative implementation that isn't the biggest cross-platform security hole in existence -2008-12-16.txt:21:27:04: <AnMaster> note I may ask the same question elsewhere, and what I will decide may be based on several sources -2008-12-20.txt:15:19:59: <ehird> so I'm thinking how to solve it d) with some build system flag or something that I may have missed -2008-12-20.txt:22:41:02: <AnMaster> Deewiant, oh and I believe ccbi may be invoking UD there -2008-12-29.txt:20:04:52: <Asztal> I may write my website in befunge. -2008-12-30.txt:16:47:37: <AnMaster> ehird, err I think it ends up as __builtin_typeof, but I may be wrong -2008-12-30.txt:16:47:59: <AnMaster> but I may be wrong -2009-01-01.txt:19:33:36: <AnMaster> what one if I may ask? :) -2009-01-04.txt:16:24:16: <ais523> although I may try when I get home -2009-01-06.txt:21:36:09: <AnMaster> ais523, just about half an hour ago I was looking for something like "diff36", that is like diff takes 2 files diff3 takes 3 files, even better would be a diffn. I solved the issue in another way, but do you know any software which can diff n files? I may write my own one for the future if not -2009-01-07.txt:09:25:49: <AnMaster> that may be C99 or I may be wrong -2009-01-07.txt:18:46:57: <AnMaster> when I get a dual core system I may reconsider it -2009-01-07.txt:22:11:54: <AnMaster> ehird, I may try to make it more portable this weekend -2009-01-09.txt:17:33:25: <AnMaster> iirc there is some llvm thing for haskell for example, but I may remember wrong -2009-01-13.txt:18:32:02: <AnMaster> note I may not implement it -2009-01-18.txt:22:42:23: <ais523> AnMaster: I may have used the wrong option -2009-01-19.txt:22:48:46: <ehird> I may be wrong. -2009-01-21.txt:21:20:06: <ehird> I may have to give in to my inner vandal... -2009-01-21.txt:21:28:37: <ehird> I may or may not be forgetful <_________< -2009-01-22.txt:13:05:06: <ehird> hmm I think I may be mixing you up with someone else -2009-01-28.txt:10:12:12: <ais523> but I may try later today -2009-02-02.txt:15:22:44: <ais523> I may do just that -2009-02-06.txt:21:46:55: <ehird_> i may just -2009-02-07.txt:18:54:08: <ais523> I may do, although not yet -2009-02-08.txt:14:57:21: <ehird> <kerlo> I have returned so that I may confess a sin in ##sl4. -2009-02-14.txt:15:02:48: <ehird> I may be incorrect, but I haven't seen a good argument why. -2009-02-14.txt:19:43:03: <ehird> "I've accumulated ideas for a short libertarian comic strip, and I am looking for an artist to illustrate them. If I can't find one, I may buy myself a tablet and try to draw my own stick-figure comic strip..." -2009-02-21.txt:15:27:55: <ais523> maybe, but if I can establish a stronger result I may as well -2009-02-22.txt:15:11:33: <ehird> I may be imagining things -2009-02-27.txt:16:12:44: <AnMaster> ais523, well as an optimised alternative: sure, I may. But it's tricky -2009-03-01.txt:18:58:09: <AnMaster> so I may have experienced more than average English food -2009-03-05.txt:16:21:18: <ais523> only one comment, I may as well copy it here -2009-03-05.txt:18:26:13: <AnMaster> ais523, oh and erlang seems more useful in "real world". I mean from what I understood, and I may be wrong, Prolog is a bit like Scheme: both languages are very nice and such, but aren't very easy to use for anything practical. -2009-03-05.txt:19:02:52: <AnMaster> I may be wrong -2009-03-05.txt:19:06:17: <AnMaster> ehird, for example I read recently there are some type faces optimised for people who are dyslectics. I don't think lucida grande is, but I may be wrong -2009-03-07.txt:15:59:47: <asiekierka> I may find the logs from the day DOBELA was discussed on my PC -2009-03-07.txt:17:49:11: <ehird> I may write False->asm, why not. -2009-03-08.txt:05:06:30: <bsmntbombdood> oh wait, i think i may have something -2009-03-08.txt:13:00:39: <AnMaster> I may be wrong, but it seems like that to me -2009-03-08.txt:18:30:31: <AnMaster> ais523, iirc it is something quite like C loops. But I may misremember -2009-03-09.txt:19:03:20: <asiekierk> Or i may know why -2009-03-10.txt:16:34:51: <AnMaster> but I may misremember that -2009-03-11.txt:18:32:24: <AnMaster> but I may misremember -2009-03-11.txt:18:33:15: <AnMaster> ais523, well I may misremember, and it may have 9 V or such then for programming? -2009-03-13.txt:18:01:14: <AnMaster> ehird, I'm pretty sure I have seen opentype on OS X though... I may be wrong -2009-03-13.txt:21:59:57: <AnMaster> Also I may be reading the branch profiling info wrong. But this *does* seem to be the case. -2009-03-17.txt:20:31:08: <ehird> I may write a GTK/Qt interface if I feel like it sometime; or someone else could. -2009-03-19.txt:16:12:13: <ehird> hmm... I wonder who runs nethack in emacs; I wonder so that I may whack them -2009-03-20.txt:17:44:19: <asiekierka> But I may find something -[too many lines; stopping]
--- a/paste/paste.8693 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,47 +0,0 @@ -2011-03-10.txt:21:12:34: -!- treederwright has joined #esoteric. -2011-03-10.txt:21:12:42: <treederwright> is this a esoteric room -2011-03-10.txt:21:13:22: <elliott> treederwright: http://esolangs.org/ has more on our mystical order. -2011-03-10.txt:21:13:56: <treederwright> im new here, but i am a member of esoteric orders -2011-03-10.txt:21:14:12: <treederwright> is anyone here rosicrucian? -2011-03-10.txt:21:14:21: <treederwright> or a member of the tradition of the temple -2011-03-10.txt:21:14:24: <elliott> treederwright: BAHAHAHA! Of course! -2011-03-10.txt:21:14:24: <Phantom_Hoover> treederwright, sure, I'll be one. -2011-03-10.txt:21:14:36: <pikhq> treederwright: Doubtful; this is esoteric in the sense of esoteric programming languages, not in the sense of esotericism. -2011-03-10.txt:21:15:37: <treederwright> im in the wrong area -2011-03-10.txt:21:15:42: <treederwright> this is for computer stuff -2011-03-10.txt:21:15:45: <elliott> treederwright: Incorrect. -2011-03-10.txt:21:15:53: <Phantom_Hoover> treederwright, computer esoterica! -2011-03-10.txt:21:16:03: <treederwright> lol -2011-03-10.txt:21:16:05: <oerjan> treederwright: sadly we've never found a better irc channel to point people like you to -2011-03-10.txt:21:16:29: <treederwright> i am just amazed at your funniness -2011-03-10.txt:21:16:42: <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-03-10.txt:21:16:47: <elliott> `addquote <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-03-10.txt:21:17:08: <Phantom_Hoover> treederwright, what're the dimensions of the matrix of solidity? -2011-03-10.txt:21:17:51: <oklopol> treederwright: the determinant of my matrix is 0 :< -2011-03-10.txt:21:18:10: -!- treederwright has parted #esoteric (?). -2011-03-10.txt:22:19:03: <elliott> `addquote <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-03-10.txt:22:22:28: <elliott> `addquote <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-03-10.txt:22:22:29: <HackEgo> 330) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-03-10.txt:22:22:41: <elliott> Twiddle: really i want to quote the entire treederwright exchange, but :) -2011-04-08.txt:22:25:05: <HackEgo> 330) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-04-08.txt:22:26:10: <elliott> 13:17:08 <Phantom_Hoover> treederwright, what're the dimensions of the matrix of solidity? -2011-05-15.txt:19:32:48: <HackEgo> 329) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-05-16.txt:16:57:38: <HackEgo> 329) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-05-18.txt:20:14:57: <HackEgo> 329) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-10-19.txt:19:14:01: <HackEgo> 316) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-11-03.txt:18:46:53: <HackEgo> 303) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-11-10.txt:11:01:34: <HackEgo> 303) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-11-10.txt:22:50:07: <HackEgo> 301) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-12-11.txt:22:58:11: <HackEgo> 299) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-12-11.txt:23:22:40: <elliott> 2011-03-10.txt:22:22:29: <HackEgo> 330) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-12-24.txt:01:18:49: <HackEgo> 299) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-01-04.txt:20:09:16: <HackEgo> 299) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-01-04.txt:20:09:38: <elliott> we, on IRC, were closed-minded; treederwright enlightened us as to the matrix of solidity we are locked within -2012-02-12.txt:23:46:04: <HackEgo> 80) <fedoragirl> My mascot is a tree of broccoli. \ 259) <zzo38> ais523: Maybe it is better, because I don't think the octopus will live very well in the tree. But the difference is that the Internet is lying and you cannot see such things; you could make modified picture, though, in order to lie more clearly, at least. \ 296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity \ 708) <Phantom__Hoover> -2012-02-16.txt:19:48:47: <HackEgo> 296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-02-16.txt:19:50:34: <HackEgo> 296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-02-21.txt:19:46:48: <HackEgo> 296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-02-21.txt:20:04:38: <olsner> who is/was treederwright? -2012-02-21.txt:20:05:12: <PiRSquared17> `quote treederwright -2012-02-21.txt:20:05:15: <HackEgo> 296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-02-21.txt:20:11:28: <Gregor> `pastelogs treederwright
--- a/paste/paste.8939 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,6 +0,0 @@ -2012-03-23.txt:16:01:45: -!- quintopia changed the topic of #esoteric to: This is CERTAINLY the MOST TERRIFYING GAMALOST you will RUN AWAY FROM all OLSOK: http://championofbirds.com/?p=4991 | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | The proof is trivial! Just view the problem as a convex algebra whose elements are alternating Turing machines -2012-03-23.txt:16:02:36: -!- elliott changed the topic of #esoteric to: This is CERTAINLY the MOST TERRIFYING GAMALOST you will RUN AWAY FROM all OLSOK: http://championofbirds.com/?p=4991 | The proof is trivial! Just view the problem as a convex algebra whose elements are alternating Turing machines | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ -2012-03-25.txt:20:10:13: -!- oerjan changed the topic of #esoteric to: This is NOT the WORST MARMITE you will ABSORB all GUY FAWKES NIGHT: http://championofbirds.com/?p=4991 | The proof is trivial! Just view the problem as a convex algebra whose elements are alternating Turing machines | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ -2012-03-26.txt:04:08:03: <oklopol> "The proof is trivial! Just view the problem as a convex algebra whose elements are alternating Turing machines" could someone elaborate on this -2012-03-26.txt:04:11:40: <oerjan> `pastelogs The proof is trivial! Just view the -2012-03-26.txt:04:12:19: <oerjan> `pastelogs The proof is trivial! Just view the
--- a/paste/paste.968 Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,199 +0,0 @@ -2011-03-10.txt:21:16:42: <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-03-10.txt:21:16:47: <elliott> `addquote <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-03-10.txt:21:17:08: <Phantom_Hoover> treederwright, what're the dimensions of the matrix of solidity? -2011-03-10.txt:21:17:08: <elliott> ENTER MY OCTAGON AND FACE MY MATRIX OF SOLIDITY -2011-03-10.txt:21:18:01: <pikhq> Is the matrix of solidity square? Is it invertible? -2011-03-10.txt:21:18:31: <Phantom_Hoover> WE WILL NEVER FIND THE INVERSE OF OUR MATRIX OF SOLIDITY -2011-03-10.txt:21:18:45: <pikhq> elliott: Perhaps all our matrices are submatrices of the matrix of solidity. -2011-03-10.txt:21:19:01: -!- elliott changed the topic of #esoteric to: The Residence of the Entrapments of the Matrix of Solidity | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ -2011-03-10.txt:21:19:16: -!- elliott changed the topic of #esoteric to: The Residency of the Entrapments of the Matrix of Solidity | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ -2011-03-10.txt:22:19:03: <elliott> `addquote <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-03-10.txt:22:21:18: <Twiddle> "matrix of solidity" -2011-03-10.txt:22:22:28: <elliott> `addquote <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-03-10.txt:22:22:29: <HackEgo> 330) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-03-10.txt:22:22:49: <elliott> matrix of solidity is good enough. -2011-03-29.txt:01:39:17: <Gregor> ESOTERIC TOPICS IN COMPUTING AND PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES. WE HAVE THEM. | Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. | Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D , http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | Everyone who has not yet contributed to the libc.so fund: There is still time! As those who do not contribute will be required to enter the Evisceration Chamber within 48 hours of the end of the auction, those who have not yet donated are highly advised to -2011-03-29.txt:01:39:48: -!- Gregor changed the topic of #esoteric to: ESOTERIC TOPICS IN COMPUTING AND PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES. WE HAVE THEM. | Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. | Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D , http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | Gregor's libc.so fund: As those who do not contribute will be required to enter the Evisceration Chamber within 48 hours of the end of the auction, those who have not yet donated are -2011-03-29.txt:01:41:30: -!- Gregor changed the topic of #esoteric to: ESOTERIC TOPICS IN COMPUTING AND PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES. WE HAVE THEM. | Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. | Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D , http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | Gregor's libc.so fund: Those who don't contribute will be forced into Evisceration Chamber. If you haven't donated, you are highly advised to consider it! -2011-03-29.txt:01:55:49: <Gregor> Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. -2011-03-29.txt:02:02:41: -!- Gregor changed the topic of #esoteric to: ESOTERIC TOPICS IN COMPUTING AND PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES. WE HAVE THEM. | Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. | Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D , http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | Gregor's libc.so fund: Those who don't contribute will be forced into the Evisceration Chamber. If you haven't donated, you are highly advised to consider it! -2011-03-29.txt:02:03:06: <elliott> Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. Have a nice day! -2011-03-29.txt:08:50:49: <elliott> Vorpal: please, enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidarity this fine tuesday :) -2011-03-29.txt:14:41:05: <Gregor> Well, then enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. -2011-03-29.txt:19:29:23: <Gregor> Phantom_Hoover: ENJOY BEING LOCKED IN YOUR MATRIX OF SOLIDITY. -2011-03-30.txt:02:02:43: <Gregor> oerjan: Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. -2011-03-30.txt:05:01:03: -!- catseye has quit (Quit: locking myself back into my matrix of solidity. and/or sleeping). -2011-03-30.txt:16:20:04: <Gregor> Sadly, they too were locked in their matrix of solidity. -2011-03-30.txt:20:39:32: <Gregor> OR ARE YOU LOCKED IN A MATRIX OF SOLIDITY? -2011-03-30.txt:20:40:03: <Phantom_Hoover> NOW THAT HE IS FREED OF THE MATRIX OF SOLIDITY WE CAN MOCK HIM IN SO MANY OTHER WAYS -2011-03-31.txt:17:58:03: <oklopol> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-03-31.txt:19:00:11: <oklopol> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF6LJ1BxEkc&feature=related <<< this guy here is totally locked in his matrix of solidity -2011-03-31.txt:19:27:29: <Gregor> But then, maybe I'm just locked in my matrix of solidity. -2011-03-31.txt:19:32:02: <Gregor> The matrix of solidity. -2011-03-31.txt:19:32:22: <oklopol> i'm so going to break out from my matrix of solidity -2011-03-31.txt:19:32:38: <olsner> unsolidify the matrix of solidity? -2011-03-31.txt:19:34:13: <oklopol> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-03-31.txt:19:51:36: <oerjan> <olsner> unsolidify the matrix of solidity? -2011-03-31.txt:19:52:41: <Gregor> Spoken like someone locked within their matrix of solidity. -2011-03-31.txt:19:53:27: <Gregor> RIP Phantom_Hoover \ 2004-2011 \ He tried to escape his matrix of solidity -2011-03-31.txt:19:57:36: <Phantom_Hoover> WAIT I HAVE A BETTER IDEA FOR BREAKING THE MATRIX OF SOLIDITY -2011-04-01.txt:11:42:13: -!- elliott changed the topic of #esoteric to: ESOTERIC LANGUAGES | An unusually not mephitic forum. | Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. | Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D, http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ -2011-04-01.txt:14:29:04: <Gregor> Probably because he's locked in his matrix of solidity. -2011-04-01.txt:21:43:01: -!- cpressey changed the topic of #esoteric to: ESOTERIC LANGUAGES | An unusually not mephitic forum. | Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. | yoob: http://catseye.tc/lab/yoob/applet.html (+Qdeql +Sceql +SMETANA) | Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D, http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ -2011-04-01.txt:21:43:51: <elliott> "Hmm. Indeed, this forum is indeed not very mephitic. And I *do* feel like escaping my matrix of solidity... aha! The solution to my woes!" -2011-04-01.txt:23:42:21: * iconmaster is enjoying being locked in his matrix of solidity. -2011-04-02.txt:13:31:32: <Phantom_Hoover> Welcome to the matrix of solidity. -2011-04-03.txt:00:29:31: -!- elliott changed the topic of #esoteric to: ESOTERIC LANGUAGES | Catch sufficiently hello world. | An unusually not mephitic forum. | Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. | yoob: http://catseye.tc/lab/yoob/applet.html (+Qdeql +Sceql +SMETANA) | Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D, http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ -2011-04-03.txt:17:32:36: -!- catseye changed the topic of #esoteric to: ESOTERIC LANGUAGES | Catch sufficiently hello world. | An unusually not mephitic forum. | Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. | yoob: http://catseye.tc/lab/yoob/applet.html (+Ale) | Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D, http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ -2011-04-03.txt:18:33:17: <elliott> and while you're at it, enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity! -2011-04-03.txt:18:36:43: <elliott> Vorpal: ENJOY BEING LOCKED IN YOUR MATRIX OF SOLIDITY, ASSHOLE -2011-04-03.txt:20:04:40: <elliott> catseye: bah. i'd prefer you locked it into a matrix of solidity!!!! -2011-04-05.txt:01:21:00: -!- catseye changed the topic of #esoteric to: ESOTERIC LANGUAGES | Catch sufficiently hello world. | An unusually not mephitic forum. | Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. | yoob: http://catseye.tc/lab/yoob/applet.html (+Etcha +fixes) | Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D, http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ -2011-04-05.txt:01:21:23: -!- tswett changed the topic of #esoteric to: ESOTERIC LANGUAGES | Catch sufficiently hello world. | An unusually not mephitic forum. | Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. | yoob: http://catseye.tc/lab/yoob/applet.html (+Etcha +fixes) | Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D, http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | I dismiss you, tswettbot. -2011-04-05.txt:01:22:11: -!- tswett changed the topic of #esoteric to: ESOTERIC LANGUAGES | Catch sufficiently hello world. | An unusually not mephitic forum. | Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. | yoob: http://catseye.tc/lab/yoob/applet.html (+Etcha +fixes) | Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D, http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ -2011-04-05.txt:01:25:43: -!- catseye changed the topic of #esoteric to: ESOTERIC LANGUAGES | Catch sufficiently hello world. | An unusually not mephitic forum. | Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. | yoob: http://catseye.tc/lab/yoob/applet.html (+Etcha +fixes) | Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D, http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | tswettbot: join #python! -2011-04-05.txt:01:28:28: -!- catseye changed the topic of #esoteric to: ESOTERIC LANGUAGES | Catch sufficiently hello world. | An unusually not mephitic forum. | Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. | yoob: http://catseye.tc/lab/yoob/applet.html (+Etcha +fixes) | Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D, http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ -2011-04-05.txt:02:39:22: <oklopol> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-04-05.txt:13:38:28: * elliott yawns. in his matrix of solidity. -2011-04-05.txt:23:14:12: -!- tswett changed the topic of #esoteric to: ESOTERIC LANGUAGES | Catch sufficiently hello world. | An unusually not mephitic forum. | Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. | yoob: http://catseye.tc/lab/yoob/applet.html (+Etcha +fixes) | Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D, http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ -2011-04-06.txt:01:29:21: -!- tswett changed the topic of #esoteric to: ESOTERIC LANGUAGES | Catch sufficiently hello world. | An unusually not mephitic forum. | Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. | yoob: http://catseye.tc/lab/yoob/applet.html (+Etcha +fixes) | Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D, http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | variable -2011-04-08.txt:17:55:25: <Gregor> He's locked in a matrix of solidity. He cannot respond. -2011-04-08.txt:20:19:50: -!- elliott changed the topic of #esoteric to: An unusually not mephitic forum that catches sufficiently "Hello world. Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity." | yoob: http://catseye.tc/lab/yoob/applet.html | Logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | Some logs also available at http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D -2011-04-08.txt:20:21:30: <elliott> Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. -2011-04-08.txt:20:23:42: <elliott> oerjan: WELL START TRANSLATING THE MATRIX OF SOLIDITY LINE THEN ;D -2011-04-08.txt:22:25:05: <HackEgo> 330) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-04-08.txt:22:26:10: <elliott> 13:17:08 <Phantom_Hoover> treederwright, what're the dimensions of the matrix of solidity? -2011-04-08.txt:22:26:10: <elliott> 13:18:01 <pikhq> Is the matrix of solidity square? Is it invertible? -2011-04-10.txt:09:07:07: <oklopol> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-04-15.txt:14:47:32: <Gregor> I don't like anything that has /neither/ the day of the day of the day of the day nor the matrix of solidity. -2011-04-15.txt:14:54:17: <Gregor> God, it's like you lock yourSELF in a matrix of solidity. -2011-04-15.txt:15:06:57: <elliott> Gregor: <img src="/w/images/7/75/Trilime.png" alt="Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity." width="135" height="131" longdesc="/wiki/Image:Trilime.png" /> -2011-04-15.txt:15:24:49: <elliott> <elliott> This channel is unofficial lies. #matrixofsolidity is the OFFICIAL matrix of solidity. -2011-04-15.txt:15:24:58: <Gregor> PS there is no talking in the matrix of solidity. -2011-04-15.txt:15:25:13: <elliott> You mean in the FAKE matrix of solidity. -2011-04-15.txt:15:34:47: <elliott> Gregor: You think the matrix of solidity has this EARTHLY-PLANE concept of a "topic"? -2011-04-15.txt:15:35:00: <elliott> There is not "no topic", there is simply the lack of the concept of topic, just as the matrix of solidity lacks ifofgjfdg. -2011-04-15.txt:15:35:29: <Gregor> And a lock, although that's outside the matrix and is what's keeping us in, it's not part of the matrix of solidity proper. -2011-04-15.txt:15:36:01: <elliott> We lock ourselves into the matrix of solidity, and cannot escape. -2011-04-15.txt:15:47:25: <Gregor> But then how are we to be locked in our matrix of solidity? -2011-04-15.txt:15:54:16: <elliott> Vorpal: YOU CANNOT LEAVE YOUR MATRIX OF SOLIDITY -2011-04-15.txt:17:31:59: <elliott> leBMD: enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity :-) -2011-04-15.txt:17:54:53: <Gregor> Deewiant: I NOTICE YOU HAVE NOT LOCKED YOURSELF IN THE MATRIX OF SOLIDITY -2011-04-15.txt:18:51:51: <elliott_> The matrix of solidity is there if you look closely. -2011-04-17.txt:13:22:05: <iconmaster_> I noticed the new frontpage today, and I am dissapointed that there is no Matrix of Solidity quote to be found. -2011-04-26.txt:18:14:27: -!- Gregor changed the topic of #esoteric to: You can never escape your matrix of solidity. (fnarf) | Logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | Some logs also available at http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D -2011-04-27.txt:22:24:10: -!- crystal-cola changed the topic of #esoteric to: You can never escape your matrix of solidity. (fnarf) | Logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | Some logs also available at http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D -2011-04-27.txt:22:24:23: -!- crystal-cola changed the topic of #esoteric to: You can never escape your matrix of solidity. (fnarf) | wait let me paramaterise the alphabet| Logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | Some logs also available at http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D -2011-04-28.txt:19:29:05: -!- oerjan changed the topic of #esoteric to: You can never escape your matrix of solidity. (fnarf) | wait let me paramaterise the alphabet | Logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | Some logs also available at http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D -2011-05-13.txt:10:29:45: -!- elliott_ changed the topic of #esoteric to: "And without manifestation, who can say that this passage would exist since light *is* Being as manifestation? Thus light lies somewhere between an infinitely dark source and the immeasurable matrix of solidity." --Ernest Hemingway | Logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ and http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D -2011-05-13.txt:14:14:22: <ZOMGMODULES> enjoy being locked in your immeasurable matrix of solidity -2011-05-15.txt:19:32:48: <HackEgo> 329) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-05-15.txt:19:33:22: <Phantom_Hoover> Ah, the matrix of solidity. -2011-05-16.txt:16:57:38: <HackEgo> 329) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-05-18.txt:20:14:43: <ais523_> also, I didn't know that the matrix of solidity thing was on the main page -2011-05-18.txt:20:14:57: <HackEgo> 329) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-05-24.txt:20:05:40: <Phantom_Hoover> ARE YOU SECURELY LOCKED INTO THE MATRIX OF SOLIDITY -2011-08-02.txt:07:24:41: <olsner> use the matrix of solidity as the projection matrix -2011-08-04.txt:15:30:50: -!- Gregor changed the topic of #esoteric to: Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ -2011-08-04.txt:20:38:55: <olsner> (ooh! I see the matrix of solidity has made a comeback in the topic, good stuff) -2011-08-05.txt:21:43:05: <ais523> hey, we have a matrix of solidity in the topic again! -2011-08-05.txt:23:53:23: <Phantom_Hoover> Hey, who set the topic back to matrix of solidity? -2011-08-05.txt:23:53:56: -!- Lymee changed the topic of #esoteric to: Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity | wget redpill | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ -2011-09-27.txt:17:07:05: <ais523> elliott: matrix of solidity -2011-10-19.txt:19:14:01: <HackEgo> 316) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-11-03.txt:18:40:05: <Gregor> shachaf: Blah blah blah matrix of solidity blah blah blah -2011-11-03.txt:18:40:52: <quintopia> but i am too locked into my matrix of solidity -2011-11-03.txt:18:46:07: <Vorpal> wait, lets make a bf clone with renamed command, like [ = matrix of solidity -2011-11-03.txt:18:46:46: <quintopia> was the matrix of solidity thing once said by a parting visitor to this channel? -2011-11-03.txt:18:46:53: <HackEgo> 303) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-11-10.txt:11:01:34: <HackEgo> 303) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-11-10.txt:22:50:04: <Phantom_Hoover> `quote matrix of solidity -2011-11-10.txt:22:50:07: <HackEgo> 301) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-11-10.txt:22:50:23: <ais523> do we have an esolang based on the matrix of solidity concept yet? -2011-11-10.txt:22:51:27: <elliott> The matrix of solidity is literally us. -2011-11-10.txt:22:54:22: <oerjan> the hermitian matrix of solidity -2011-11-11.txt:16:47:02: <ais523> elliott: enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity! -2011-11-15.txt:23:16:53: <ais523\unfoog> elliott: enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity! -2011-12-11.txt:22:58:08: <elliott> `quote matrix of solidity -2011-12-11.txt:22:58:11: <HackEgo> 299) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-12-11.txt:22:58:56: <itidus20> i remember the matrix of solidity being in the topic for a while -2011-12-11.txt:22:59:15: <itidus20> `log matrix of solidity -2011-12-11.txt:22:59:21: <HackEgo> 2011-04-15.txt:14:54:17: <Gregor> God, it's like you lock yourSELF in a matrix of solidity. -2011-12-11.txt:22:59:30: <itidus20> `log matrix of solidity -2011-12-11.txt:22:59:36: <HackEgo> 2011-03-10.txt:21:17:08: <elliott> ENTER MY OCTAGON AND FACE MY MATRIX OF SOLIDITY -2011-12-11.txt:23:21:51: <Phantom_Hoover> Matrix of solidity is quote number 299??? -2011-12-11.txt:23:22:17: <elliott> `pastelogs matrix of solidity -2011-12-11.txt:23:22:40: <elliott> 2011-03-10.txt:22:22:29: <HackEgo> 330) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-12-15.txt:17:22:03: <Gregor> elliott: A /legit/ new person. Not locking us in a matrix of solidity or anything. -2011-12-15.txt:17:22:58: <elliott> Gregor: Then who is going to lock us in our matrix of solidity? :/ -2011-12-15.txt:17:23:26: <Gregor> elliott: Don't worry, we'll ALWAYS be locked in a matrix of solidity. We lock it ourselves. -2011-12-15.txt:21:20:11: <itidus21> the elliottonian vortex is related to the matrix of solidity -2011-12-15.txt:21:21:06: <elliott> <itidus21> the elliottonian vortex is related to the matrix of solidity -2011-12-17.txt:20:53:37: -!- Gregor changed the topic of #esoteric to: <itidus21> on a side note, [...] finland is very depressing and a bit of a matrix of solidity | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ -2011-12-17.txt:21:03:28: <Gregor> elliott: No, it's a matrix of solidity. -2011-12-24.txt:01:18:30: <Gregor> `pastelogs matrix of solidity -2011-12-24.txt:01:18:40: <elliott> `quote matrix of solidity -2011-12-24.txt:01:18:49: <HackEgo> 299) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2011-12-24.txt:19:45:08: <ais523> I'll end up coming up with ways to escape the matrix of solidity, at this rate) -2011-12-24.txt:19:45:21: <elliott_> nobody can escape the matrix of solidity -2012-01-04.txt:08:07:07: <elliott> ais523: fizzie: the trilime is the matrix of solidity -2012-01-04.txt:08:07:24: <ais523> it predates us hearing about the matrix of solidity -2012-01-04.txt:08:07:37: <elliott> do you seriously believe the matrix of solidity didn't exist before we heard about it? -2012-01-04.txt:08:07:38: <fizzie> Linear time is no boundary for the matrix of solidity? -2012-01-04.txt:08:08:40: <elliott> ais523: not in the matrix of solidity! -2012-01-04.txt:20:01:00: * elliott considers changing "Why not join us on IRC?" to "Why not join us in the matrix of solidity?" -2012-01-04.txt:20:08:28: <ais523> why do you consider /IRC/ to be the matrix of solidity? -2012-01-04.txt:20:08:33: <ais523> `pastlog matrix of solidity -2012-01-04.txt:20:09:12: <elliott> `quote matrix of solidity -2012-01-04.txt:20:09:16: <HackEgo> 299) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-01-04.txt:20:09:38: <elliott> we, on IRC, were closed-minded; treederwright enlightened us as to the matrix of solidity we are locked within -2012-01-04.txt:20:09:47: <ais523> I can't believe that "matrix of solidity" never came up in the logs before now, though -2012-01-04.txt:20:10:24: <HackEgo> 2011-11-10.txt:22:50:04: <Phantom_Hoover> `quote matrix of solidity -2012-01-04.txt:20:20:52: <ais523> `pastlog matrix of solidity -2012-01-04.txt:20:21:01: <HackEgo> 2011-04-01.txt:23:42:21: * iconmaster is enjoying being locked in his matrix of solidity. -2012-01-04.txt:20:21:29: <ais523> `pastlog matrix of solidity -2012-01-04.txt:20:21:38: <HackEgo> 2011-05-18.txt:20:14:43: <ais523_> also, I didn't know that the matrix of solidity thing was on the main page -2012-01-05.txt:11:02:17: <elliott> The hoov univers is the matrix of solidity itself. -2012-01-10.txt:01:34:45: * kallisti computes his matrix of solidity on a daily basis. -2012-01-13.txt:00:24:09: <kallisti> infinite matrix of solidity -2012-01-27.txt:13:57:01: <itidus20> the matrix of solidity -2012-02-08.txt:02:47:00: <Gregor> elliott: Fix something and it'll be "Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity" -2012-02-12.txt:23:45:29: <itidus20> virtual math might be related to the matrix of solidity -2012-02-12.txt:23:46:04: <HackEgo> 80) <fedoragirl> My mascot is a tree of broccoli. \ 259) <zzo38> ais523: Maybe it is better, because I don't think the octopus will live very well in the tree. But the difference is that the Internet is lying and you cannot see such things; you could make modified picture, though, in order to lie more clearly, at least. \ 296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity \ 708) <Phantom__Hoover> -2012-02-16.txt:19:48:36: <Friendship> shachaf: By not knowing, you are acknowledging that you are locked in your matrix of solidity. Hopefully you enjoy it there. -2012-02-16.txt:19:48:47: <HackEgo> 296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-02-16.txt:19:49:51: <itidus20> matrix of solidity is a perjorative... so i don't much like reading it -2012-02-16.txt:19:50:34: <HackEgo> 296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-02-16.txt:20:17:31: <itidus20> i like the matrix of solidity reference.. otherwise the name solidity wouldn't mean much to me -2012-02-16.txt:20:18:23: <kallisti> solidity to me sounds pretty, also matrix of solidity reference. -2012-02-16.txt:21:03:33: <shachaf> I'm locked in a matrix of solidity. -2012-02-16.txt:21:18:48: <olsner> elliott: did you decide on matrix of solidity dot com? -2012-02-18.txt:11:57:54: <oerjan> no, i am still stuck in the matrix of solidity. -2012-02-21.txt:19:46:48: <HackEgo> 296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-02-21.txt:20:05:15: <HackEgo> 296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-02-21.txt:20:05:47: <PiRSquared17> some guy who said "enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity" and went away, never to be heard of again? -2012-02-22.txt:04:39:56: <PiRSquared> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-02-22.txt:14:25:46: <ais523> and why can't we use "enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity"? -2012-02-22.txt:14:27:06: <elliott> the matrix of solidity thing is already in the hostname and on the main page, I don't think it needs to proliferate any further -2012-02-26.txt:01:30:00: <itidus21> It really helps a lot when someone just blurts out an incomprehensible soundbyte like <treederwright> enjoy your matrix of solidarity -2012-02-26.txt:01:36:21: <HackEgo> 296) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-02-28.txt:01:39:04: <oerjan> all locked up in his matrix of solidity -2012-02-29.txt:15:21:25: <fizzie> If you search the log, you can find that it symbolizes the matrix of solidity. -2012-02-29.txt:15:32:12: <elliott> ion: It's the logo of the matrix of solidity. -2012-03-04.txt:21:19:24: <Sgeo_> "Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity." -2012-03-04.txt:21:24:27: <Friendship> ion: But can it tell you to enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity? -2012-03-07.txt:19:25:27: <Friendship> Nobody can year your scream... in your MATRIX OF SOLIDITY. -2012-03-18.txt:15:02:14: <elliott> RocketJSquirrel: I'm removing yr matrix of solidity tooltip from the logo. -2012-03-18.txt:15:05:47: <fizzie> It looks a bit like matrix of solidity fanart. -2012-03-18.txt:15:46:39: <elliott> RocketJSquirrel: Of course, I could also change the page title to "Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity" and remove the tooltip. -2012-03-18.txt:23:00:33: <ais523> elliott: a matrix of solidity? -2012-03-19.txt:01:24:11: <RocketJSquirrel> elliott: Without enjoyment of our matrix of solidity, it is but a pale imitation of main pages of yore. -2012-03-19.txt:01:38:44: <RocketJSquirrel> Fairly certain that IS my matrix of solidity. -2012-03-19.txt:01:40:24: <itidus21> Maharba: Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. -2012-03-19.txt:08:01:47: <elliott> ais523: hey, you have an anonymised google: are we really the top result for "Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity."? -2012-03-23.txt:15:41:11: <RocketJSquirrel> If not, I think Matrix of Solidity is begging to be linguified. Also I may have already mentioned this possibility. -2012-03-23.txt:19:22:57: <Mathnerd314> in particular, who put the quote "enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity" at the bottom? -2012-03-23.txt:19:23:21: <elliott> `quote matrix of solidity -2012-03-23.txt:19:23:24: <HackEgo> 294) <treederwright> enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity -2012-04-02.txt:07:21:28: <oerjan> <elliott> shachaf: We're all on the update list. <-- so that's what the matrix of solidity _is_ -2012-04-02.txt:12:07:01: <graue> where does "Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity." come from, or what does it mean y'all
--- a/quotes Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ b/quotes Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -83,6 +83,7 @@ <Warrigal> Ah, vulva. <Warrigal> What is that, anyway? <Slereah> I can do everything a Turing machine can do, except love <MissPiggy> bi is like sqrt(2)/2 * straight + i * sqrt(2)/2 * gay +<virtuhird> Sgeo_: Gregorr: and someone could, by mistake, rewrite psox to be a weak erection if it is... A filename. <Warrigal> So, I'm inside a bottle which is being carried by a robot. <dtsund> For those who don't know: INTERCAL is basically the I Wanna Be The Guy of programming languages. Not useful for anything serious, but pretty funny when viewed from the outside. <Warrigal> A person's sex is not the same thing as their penis length. @@ -107,6 +108,7 @@ <fax> okay I see it now, quines do exist <Warrigal> Darn, now I can't acknowledge the reference you were making. <soupdragon> if you claim that the universe is more than 3D the burden of proof is on you to produce a klien bottle that doesn't self intersect <soupdragon> ^ I learned that trick from atheists +<alise> use "grep --crazy" * augur rubs alise's bum [...] <augur> what? she said square ped <augur> :| <oerjan> insufficient time dilation. try running faster. <fungot> alise: why internet is like wtf @@ -498,6 +500,7 @@ <monqy> cigaretes and drunking "lame highs for lame people" <oerjan> yeah if it doesn't make you go crazy and shoot at people, it's not worth it. take it from a norwegian. <fungot> tswett: last argument must be a cub scout!! have you made your money-drop today?? [2008] <nooga> i'm testing Haiku <nooga> and it appears that it is a major shit <oerjan> 5+7+5, not 5+11, nooga +<Taneb> Speaking of the CiSRA puzzles, anyone want to form a team <oerjan> i avoid my duties by carefully never registering to anything new <Taneb> aibohphobia <Taneb> The fear of palindromes <Phantom_Hoover> Sgeo_, the origin of suffering is desire for e-book readers. <zzo38> elliott_: No it isn't a game, it is a computer game @@ -601,6 +604,7 @@ <Gregor> Phantom_Hoover: Sort of a monadic human centipede. <elliott> When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a monad. <monqy> one time I tried cpp programming <monqy> it was hellish <monqy> maybe I should try again +<fungot> CakeProphet: mr president, in the best egyptian judicial traditions has now been put off to friday. but i want my money back'. we know it generally deals with major infrastructure projects which could form part of the emergency package for korea, on christmas eve, in the interests of consumers and the environment of gmos. <oklopol> king is something women are better at than men <Taneb> Just goes to show, the Beatles are more interesting than green vegetables. <elliott> Vorpal: who needs cars when you can walk to latvia @@ -639,6 +643,7 @@ <itidus20> my old 2d game is named either runch or turbo fight.... and its hard <fizzie> I prefer the N64 controller, it's the only one that has place for my third hand. <zzo38> The fighting game I prefer is the card game Yomi +<olsner> I think stealing is more appropriate <oerjan> i am sorry to disappoint you, but my musical taste is on the side abba, verdi, and celine dion. i know this may not be popular and that you would have preferred me to be a satanist. <Ngevd> Dammit, Gregor, this is not the time to fall in love <oklopol> but i guess (x + y)^n = (x^2 + 2xy + y^2)(x^2 + 2xy + y^2)...(x^2 + 2xy + y^2) if n is even, (x + y)^n = (x^2 + 2xy + y^2)(x^2 + 2xy + y^2)...(x^2 + 2xy + y^2)(x + y) is as good a fundamental theorem as any @@ -756,6 +761,7 @@ <oklopol> in one case, someone is hurting themselves, in the other, they are only hurting (all) norwegians (to death) <zzo38> I have a program to tell you how far away Jupiter is. It is 4.33 units far. <elliott> I hate you. +<fizzie> The mutable-integer Linux. <zzo38> Even the Spanish Inquisition is in this game. <ais523> zzo38: was it unexpected? <zzo38> Kind of... <shachaf> fizzie: What kind of speech recognition do you do? <shachaf> If you only need to recognize famous speeches, like Churchill or something, it should be pretty easy. <Phantom_Hoover> Incest, the enemy of graph theorists everywhere. @@ -800,41 +806,3 @@ <itidus21> ok in other words, its a lot easier to reason about 2^43112609-1 apples by using the text "2^43112609-1" than it is to actually produce 2^43112609-1 apples <fizzie> fungot: Yeah, "fungott" would [...] remind people of elliott. <fungot> fizzie: now that could be nice for a simple language can be used <Phantom_Hoover> BF derivatives are a cancer running throughout the fringes of the esolang community, and as the fringes vastly outweigh the core, we're screwed. -<olsner> the allocation is done by the "Dynamic" in DRAM <olsner> before that we used SRAM where everything was preallocated in the factory <fizzie> olsner: So what's this SDRAM then? <olsner> fizzie: synchronized, it's for multithreading -<olsner> what a world it would be if you could actually *steal* code so that the other project has to rewrite it or infiltrate your project to steal it back -<Taneb> I swear my dreams are becoming increasingly rave + computer science oriented -<elliott> aaaaah my scherzo is unmeasurable -<elliott> oops I accidentally deleted the universe <olsner> looks weird when you put a verb after accidentally like that -<fizzie> elliott: I'm not going to even bother with the recursive "I'm not going to dignify that" stuff. [...] <fizzie> *LAA LAA LAA NOT DIGNIFYING LAA LAA* -<fizzie> fungot: Feeling scrambled after all that? <fungot> fizzie: but it's much like new zealand, in my stone-age country, we still like you even if you're only using the new fnord -<fungot> elliott_: how usable is borges in the real world -<itidus21> to think that i could accidently catch the bus with the person who wrote "###b#ott#les#of#b#eer o#n t#he #w#all#, ###lovely ###[[Esme]]ralda ###o#n ###t#h#e #b#ee#r..." -<fungot> elliott: the new fnord <fungot> elliott: what is the point? nothing changed. -<shachaf> Lent is a bad habit that people find very difficult to give up. -<Sgeo> "Sgeo: how refreshing to see you talk about something other than whatever the heck homestuck is" -<ais523> bleh, why doesn't tab-complete work in mkdir for the name of the new directory -<Sgeo_> Why does CL get called functional? <oerjan> it's sort of like how you call ancient greece democratic. -<fungot> Phantom_Hoover: gsi-ffs.scm just has a tendency to give procedures meaningful, spelled out, names, unlike " fnord)" -<oklofok> you tell us you're making a lisp interpreter, but you don't mention its polterchrist is c++ templates? <oklofok> isn't that like telling us you're taking a bath and not mentioning you're bathing in a WORLD FULL OF SNAKES -<zzo38> I think we are sort of this insane, and also sort of not as much as insane, and also sort of a bit more insane than that, and also somewhat more various other thing at various times whatever you are discussing at that time -<fungot> elliott: fibonacci heaps, trinomial heaps, fat heaps, thin heaps, fat heaps, thin heaps, fat heaps, relaxed heaps, and maybe even specifically optimized by the implementation -<elliott> then they edited their own talk page comments after someone replied to it, and edited /the replier's comment/ so that it made sense in context -<shachaf> Free as in unregistered, not free as in lunch or speech. -s'f'slg;sd'sdfjhklf;sdklfjdfklgj -<olsner> combining macros and templates can get horrible... macro(foo<bar,baz>) is two macro arguments, for instance <olsner> variadic macros can work part-way around that though <olsner> the kind of workaround where you end up inside the wall instead of on the other side of the problem -<itidus21> it sounds awful though i know.. the thought of a whole life without any hope of lawn chairs in hawaii sipping alcohol and watching bikini clad women dance with maracas -<RocketJSquirrel> `addquote IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: <elliott> `addquote IN AN ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE: <elliott> `addquote IN A PARALLEL UNIVERSE: <elliott> `addquote IN A DETACHED PLANE: <elliott> I'm hungry, I think I'll eat a pizza. -<itidus21> I have identified a language which was only designed and implemented by me in a parallel universe. [...] IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: <itidus21> Ah, yet another brilliant programming language creation of mine! -<shachaf> zzo38: Why did the barrier monad cross the road? <zzo38> shachaf: My answer is the same as before; I don't know. -<NSQX> Anyone in the Esolang community will probably just remember this day, a week before April Fools Day, as a very enthusiastic day at Esolang. -<NSQX> There's no such thing as Objective Brainfuck, or even Objective FALSE, because a programming language made of only symbols can only be esoteric/pointless. -<oerjan> as a general rule, mathematical notation doesn't make things clearer unless you first understand what you are saying. -<elliott> why isn't time going backwards <zzo38> Possibly because there is no room for time to turn around -<oklopol> how silly is that. <oklopol> it's not silly. <oklopol> it makes sense. -<monqy> esolang a horror movie where the ghost just wanders around and moves newspapers and boots and family pictures a few inches before moving on -<elliott> Sgeo: will i regret clicking that link? <ais523> elliott: I'll check it for you <ais523> yes <elliott> ais523: thanks, I'll click it then -<nortti> `fortune <HackEgo> /i \ //, \ ///i \ ,/ ).'i \ | )-i \ | )i \ ' )i \ / |- \ _.-./-. /z_ \ `-. >._\ _ );i. \ / `-'/`k-'`u)-'` \ / -<Phantom_Hoover> no olsner <Phantom_Hoover> i am now enlighten <Phantom_Hoover> i am the brick <Phantom_Hoover> and i am the brain -<oerjan> i recall memories of using my op powers for jokes. ...bad memories. <ais523> oerjan: you can remember /that/ but not KFC? -<Phantom_Hoover> "In 2009, a strange smell began wafting through a Fort Worth call center that someone quickly recognized as a poisonous carbon monoxide leak." — Cracked <Phantom_Hoover> Odd, that, seeing as carbon monoxide is odourless. <shachaf> That's how they could tell! <shachaf> "Can you smell that?" "No." "Oh no! CO!" -<shachaf> elliott: It can't be as bad as C++. [...] <elliott> Oh, sure, it's better than C++. [...] <elliott> I mean, brainfuck is also better than C++...
--- a/test Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,1 +0,0 @@ -wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
--- a/vpenis.sh Sun Apr 08 00:21:15 2012 +0000 +++ /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 @@ -1,2 +0,0 @@ -#!/bin/sh -echo `uptime|grep days|sed 's/.*up \([0-9]*\) day.*/\1\/10+/'; cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep '^cpu MHz'|awk '{print $4"/30 +";}';free|grep '^Mem'|awk '{print $3"/1024/3+"}'; df -P -k -x nfs | grep -v 1k | awk '{if ($1 ~ "/dev/(scsi|sd)"){ s+= $2} s+= $2;} END {print s/1024/50"/15+70";}'`|bc|sed 's/\(.$\)/.\1cm/'
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/? Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +? is wisdom
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/ais523 Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +ais523 is ais523. This topic may retroactively become more informative if or when Feather is invented.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/augur Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +augur took no cakes.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/banach-tarski Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +"Banach-Tarski" is an anagram of "Banach-Tarski Banach-Tarski".
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/c Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/cakeprophet Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +:>
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/category Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +Categories are just categories.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/coffee Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +Coffee is a strange hot brown liquid, often consumed, sometimes with milk and sugar. It contains chemicals considered stimulants.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/comonad Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +Comonads are just monads in the dual category.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/coppro Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +coppro prefers his nickname, Pooppy.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/egobot Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +EgoBot is my arch-nemesis.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/elliott Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +elliott wrote this learn DB, and wrote or improved many of the other commands in this bot. He probably has done other things?
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/endofunctor Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +Endofunctors are just endomorphisms in the category of categories.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/esoteric Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +This channel is about programming -- for the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/everyone Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +Everyone in here is mad.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/finland Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least five of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/finns Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +Finns are helpful, albeit grossly overpopulated (cf. 'Finland').
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/fizzie Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +fizzie is rumoured to be written in Funge-98.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/flower Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +flower. what IS a flower?
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/friendship Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +friendship wisdom
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/functor Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +Functors are just morphisms in the category of small categories
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/fungot Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +fungot cannot be stopped by that sword alone.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/glogbot Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +glogbot is a snitch, don't trust it.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/gregor Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +Gregor took forty cakes. He took 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/hackego Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/haskell Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +Haskell is preferred by 9 out of 10 esoteric programmers. Ask your GP today! http://learnyouahaskell.com/
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/ievan Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +ievan is basically http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4om1rQKPijI
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/intercal Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +INTERCAL has excellent features for modular program for the enterprise market.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/itidus20 Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +itidus20 is horny 60 year olds having cybersex in minecraft
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/itidus21 Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +itidus21 just made some instant coffee.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/kallisti Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +kallisti is a former prophet swearing off his pastry deity
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/lens Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +A lens is a monoidal natural transformation between higher-order coalgebra functors
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/lifthrasiir Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +lifthrasiir is shunned by the rest of his country for being no good at League of Legends.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/mad Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked. "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/misspellings of croissant Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°_o)/¯
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/monad Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +monads \ No newline at end of file
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/monads Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +Monads are just monoids in the category of endofunctors.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/monoid Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +Monoids are just categories with a single object.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/monqy Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +The friendship monqy is an ancient Chinese mystery; ask itidus21 for details.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/ngevd Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +/dev/urandom \ No newline at end of file
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/nooga Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +nooga hate OS X. NOOGA SMASH.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/oerjan Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +Your evil overlord oerjan is a lazy expert in future computation.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/oklopol Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +oklopol "so i hear these blogs are getting popular, people like writing about their lives and shit. on this thing called the internet which is like a neural network only really stupid."
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/phantom___hoover Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +Phantom___Hoover sucks at ghosting himself.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/phantom__hoover Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +Phantom__Hoover can't decide what an appropriate number of underscores is.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/phantom_hoover Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +Phantom_Hoover is a true Scotsman and hatheist.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/php Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +PHP is preferred by 9 out of 10 idiots, and past elliott. Ask your GP today! [Website redacted]
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/pietbot Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +Pietbot is the only thing that can defeat fungot.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/qdb Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +qdb is used like: `quote; `quote regexp; `quote id; `addquote ...; `delquote id; `pastequotes regexp; `pastenquotes [n]; see also qdbformat
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/qdbformat Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +qdbformat is: <nick> message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/quine Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +`? quine
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/sgeo Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +Sgeo invented Metaplace sex.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/shachaf Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +/dev/null \ No newline at end of file
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/taneb Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +Taneb is not actually Ngevd, no matter what you may have heard.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/u Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +u monad?
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/vorpal Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +Vorpal is really boring. Seriously, you have no idea.
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/welcome Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/wiki Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +The wiki is at http://esolangs.org/wiki
--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/wisdom/wisdom Sun Apr 08 00:25:12 2012 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,1 @@ +wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry