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+2003-01-25.txt:13:58:54: <Speuler> this may be the space for my future project :)
+2003-02-06.txt:19:52:09: <exarkun> Funge is arbitrary-dimensional though, over an unbounded space
+2003-02-07.txt:05:02:57: <dbc> Well, they usually put one number per line. Though they may go to the next line if they run out of space...
+2003-06-18.txt:08:32:01: -!- lament has quit ("http://www.cyberspace.org/~lament").
+2003-07-09.txt:04:12:47: <dbc> By common usage, lots of things count as "programming languages" that aren't Turing-complete even if you neglect the unlimitedspace requirement.
+2003-07-11.txt:03:26:49: -!- lament changed the topic of #esoteric to: http://cyberspace.org/~lament/abuse.html
+2003-07-13.txt:19:36:46: <lament> Hopefully cyberspace.org goes back up.
+2003-07-17.txt:05:13:38: <lament> The language has significant whitespace and statements are terminated by a blank line.
+2003-07-29.txt:23:57:06: <Taaus> I know what you mean. Significant whitespace.
+2003-08-01.txt:00:45:01: <Taaus> I stumbled across a 3d version of a Thue-ish language... A Japanese program... Someone had implemented space invaders in it :)
+2003-08-05.txt:20:54:41: <lament> http://cyberspace.org/~lament/thue.html
+2003-08-05.txt:20:55:02: -!- lament changed the topic of #esoteric to: http://cyberspace.org/~lament/thue.html - Instructions on the bottom of the can
+2003-08-11.txt:19:25:47: -!- sterling.freenode.net changed the topic of #esoteric to: http://cyberspace.org/~lament/thue.html - Instructions on the bottom of the can
+2003-12-12.txt:21:03:16: <fizzie> 2135 is even better byte ordering - saves 20% of memory space.
+2004-02-08.txt:21:21:03: <Toreun> fizzie: ... but you could just add whitespace on the sides of the source to make it bigger
+2004-02-11.txt:00:21:13: <mooz-> no, but it wastes space :)
+2004-04-29.txt:06:21:50: <andretwo> hm where should i position it... top-left on the blank space, or merge it with the fishbone bottom-right?
+2004-04-30.txt:07:43:57: <andreou> anyone good with webdesign? i can provide the space and scripts, but i really can't put two and two bits together when it comes to gfx :)
+2004-05-01.txt:04:11:44: <heatsink> Also, you need a space between the b and the d
+2004-05-04.txt:02:56:55: <andreou> that mod has a lot of blank space :)
+2004-05-04.txt:03:01:50: <Toreun> it's the standard spacefilling text
+2004-05-04.txt:03:53:42: <Toreun> I would offer my server as webspace, but I'm afraid it's so unreliable it wouldn't be much good
+2004-05-04.txt:04:00:35: <Toreun> it's just to fill space
+2004-05-06.txt:02:03:41: <heatsink> I want to be able to have successive lines of text spaced by successive prime-number distances
+2004-05-27.txt:16:10:22: <fizzie> oh, and the playfield was redefined from the older "80x25-unit torus-grid" to "infinite lahey-space"
+2004-05-27.txt:22:12:54: <fizzie> of course soldering stuff into a pre-made pcb with ~1cm empty spaces between stuff I could accidentally mess up I managed to do.
+2004-05-27.txt:23:03:58: <lament> fizzie: sure, but you need 10 bits to address a space of 1024 addresses
+2004-05-28.txt:20:20:38: <calamari_> the way I did the operators was reading 2 characters at a time, then checking in a string like this "++--+ - (etc)" it will find a match with 2 chars before a match with one.. it recognizes the space as a wildcard
+2004-05-28.txt:20:23:15: <calamari_> with spaces it will do a++ + ++b 
+2004-06-10.txt:20:53:12: <lament> infinite memory space
+2004-06-10.txt:20:54:01: <calamari_> lament: if you have infinit memory space what do you do about something like +[>+] ?
+2004-06-10.txt:21:05:31: <calamari_> taaus: that was with a finite memory space
+2004-06-10.txt:21:05:46: <lament> calamari_: obviously you can't do it with infinite memory space.
+2004-06-10.txt:21:06:04: <calamari_> lament: "<lament> infinite memory space"
+2004-06-10.txt:21:06:43: <calamari_> with finite space +[>+] this eventually exits
+2004-06-12.txt:09:41:18: <fizzie> (2) Research, design, development, production or use of rocket systems, space launch vehicles, sounding rockets, missles, drones, or unmanned air vehicle systems.
+2004-06-15.txt:17:22:17: <fizzie> but to have enough disk space to backup my previous /etc, /usr and /var directories I probably need to burn random stuff on dvds.
+2004-06-27.txt:03:38:57: <calamari_> space hd .. space hard drive.. hard drive space?  are you worried about your hard drive space?
+2004-06-28.txt:17:00:47: <calamari_> 3 letter instruction..  operands  (spaces or tabs are ignored)
+2004-06-29.txt:17:57:06: <lament> your memory space might also be infinite
+2004-07-31.txt:22:37:49: <Keymaker> space invaders rule!!
+2004-09-23.txt:19:50:02: <ZeroOne> fizzie: "radix of n-dimensional space, sort of. unambiguous coordinates etc."
+2004-10-05.txt:22:23:01: <ZeroOne> Hipo: like Brainfuck, Befunge, Whitespace, INTERCAL, Unlambda, ...
+2004-11-07.txt:22:35:37: <fizzie> me will probably try to sleep some now, have that mat-1.403 exam tomorrow. infinite-dimensional vector spaces, path integrals of complex functions using residues, QR factorizations of matrices. yay!
+2004-12-23.txt:09:13:13: <calamari-> nah.. floppy doesn't need anything that complicated.  In fact, the whole os could probably fit in the space of the bootloader
+2004-12-23.txt:09:25:36: <calamari-> this is like a com file where you only have a little over 400 bytes of code space
+2004-12-23.txt:09:27:17: <calamari-> usually this code space is used to load a larger program from disk and run it (what's why it's called the boot sector, lifting yourself up by the bootstraps and all that)
+2004-12-26.txt:12:52:04: <nooga_> code space, output window and stack listener :)
+2004-12-27.txt:18:47:40: <Keymaker> maybe i should buy some webspace for bf
+2004-12-27.txt:18:48:23: <Keymaker> i wouldn't need php support or much space,
+2004-12-27.txt:18:49:58: <ZeroOne> don't you get any webspace from your ISP?
+2004-12-27.txt:19:04:44: <ZeroOne> I'm hooked to mbnet because of the homepage space and the email address
+2004-12-27.txt:19:05:20: <ZeroOne> the homepage space is namely 50 MB but in fact there are no limits ;o
+2004-12-27.txt:19:05:39: <lindi-> i have my 'homepage' on a friends box with gigabytes of space ;)
+2004-12-28.txt:17:05:04: <calamari_> essentially what is needed is a bf where there is memory access to the code space
+2004-12-29.txt:20:32:25: <calamari_> for example 00h 008h (because then you get the printed backspace as a bonus)
+2005-01-03.txt:22:41:45: <ZeroOne> Keymaker: http://f2g.net/ looks like a promising free web host. 15 MB space, no ads, short subdomain address, SSI, email, FTP, statistics. :o
+2005-01-28.txt:23:52:05: <Keymaker> since i don't have any space yet
+2005-02-05.txt:22:20:34: <Keymaker> it could be clever to use space character (asc 32) as 'instruction character' and return/enter (asc 10) as 'execution character'
+2005-02-05.txt:23:05:01: <fizzie> There is already a language that uses only whitespace as its syntax.
+2005-02-05.txt:23:05:22: <Keymaker> it's called "Whitespace" :p
+2005-02-10.txt:05:06:37: <arke> instead of ! and ?, use newline and space
+2005-02-10.txt:05:15:37: <calamari> there is a language called whitespace .. ;)
+2005-02-25.txt:00:49:09: <arke> Rogue: basically brainfuck. However, theres 2 instructions, one of them you scroll through a circular lists of brainfuck instructions, the next one executes that brainfuck instruction. after executing, it scrolls to the next brainfuck instruction. the character for scroll is space and the character for execute is enter/return/newline
+2005-03-03.txt:20:59:01: <{^Raven^}> would make space-invaders difficult
+2005-03-05.txt:13:35:29: <{^Raven^}> how much server space/bandwidth would you need?
+2005-03-05.txt:13:36:12: <{^Raven^}> how much file space?
+2005-03-06.txt:02:33:23: <cpressey> i worry that calamari's boot block doesn't have enough space left in it to parse a bank number :)
+2005-03-11.txt:04:09:06: <{^Raven^}> it's no fun if the space invaders wait for you to press a key
+2005-03-11.txt:04:51:28: <{^Raven^}> i wrote space invaders for mine before it was burgled
+2005-03-11.txt:18:19:45: <kipple> The whitespace language is nice for steganography :)
+2005-03-17.txt:14:53:34: <Keymaker> remember that this takes a lot space; i have a feeling my code will be at least 1000+
+2005-03-18.txt:20:04:54: <calamari> you don't need locate.. can just print spaces then use backspace
+2005-03-30.txt:14:09:23: <matricks> Fungus-98 defines a 32bit working space
+2005-05-03.txt:02:57:28: <GregorR> Does anybody want to try out my combination of BrainFuck and CoreWars?  Essentially, you have two BrainFuckish programs running concurrently, and their data space is the opponent's program space.
+2005-05-03.txt:15:40:50: <Keymaker> do you have the language specification uploaded anywhere as txt, because sourceforge board removes spaces
+2005-05-04.txt:15:57:22: <GregorR> So it sticks the two chunks of code at opposite ends of the same program space and they go towards eachother?  (Or still different program space?)
+2005-05-04.txt:19:17:28: <pgimeno> a space is a nop, then?
+2005-05-04.txt:20:00:13: <Keymaker> for the sake of simplicity there should be language using only space and new-line :)
+2005-05-04.txt:20:00:49: <pgimeno> that's Whitespace, not to be confused with Blank :)
+2005-05-04.txt:20:02:06: <pgimeno> Blank is not about spaces, I think
+2005-05-05.txt:08:02:47: <Keymaker> btw, so there's "infinite" space on right side?
+2005-05-05.txt:12:38:29: <fizzie> fis@colin:~/prog/eclipse-workspace/misc$ java -cp . org.gehennom.misc.BFRE 'a(a|b)*b|b(a|b)*a' > ~/prog/misc/brfd/re.bf
+2005-05-05.txt:16:34:27: <GregorR> I own codu.org , but have very minimal space and bandwidth on my host there :-P
+2005-05-06.txt:03:59:55: <GregorR-L> fizzie: Sorry I keep tossing stuff into the FYB web space, I promise that's the last one ;0
+2005-05-06.txt:08:29:30: <GregorR> OK, OK: A language is turing complete IF given infinite memory and code space, it could solve any mathematical problem.  Is that a good all-inclusive definition?
+2005-05-06.txt:21:03:43: <fizzie> I had some trouble fitting X11, opengl and that soft-synth in a 4K elf executable - or actually having any space left over to insert actual code in. :p
+2005-05-06.txt:21:53:28: <KnX> i'm searching an efficient implementation for an arbitrary-dimentional funge-space in C, if someone has a good idea ...
+2005-05-06.txt:22:54:01: <pgimeno> http://web.archive.org/web/20031210145310/http://cyberspace.org/~lament/thue.html
+2005-05-09.txt:22:52:39: <KnX> could someone explain me why same-line wrapping is called lahey-space wrapping, i can't find doc about lahey-space except befunge-related ?
+2005-05-10.txt:03:16:12: <GregorR-L> Crapsicles ... Kipple doesn't need to be space-delimited?
+2005-05-10.txt:14:25:53: <Keymaker> probably space could be the traditional NOP there, like in befunge
+2005-05-10.txt:14:30:05: <Keymaker> using space as blank and < > v ^ as direction characters
+2005-05-10.txt:14:33:08: <Keymaker> and one for space
+2005-05-10.txt:14:33:40: <kipple> what do you mean, for space?
+2005-05-10.txt:14:34:19: <Keymaker> if the program is in 2d space the instructions can't be this way:
+2005-05-10.txt:15:06:32: <KnX> for information , i decided to separate my befunge core from the funge-space, making a funge-space-librairy which could be usefull for many langages maybe ...
+2005-05-10.txt:17:26:56: <Keymaker> this kind of language would take extremely much space but at least beat GregorR's 2L ;)
+2005-05-11.txt:05:32:42: <calamari> whitespace vs whatever they like
+2005-05-11.txt:22:56:38: <kipple> " It has the memory limited to 2 bits for space reasons"
+2005-05-12.txt:19:42:34: <GregorR-L> Very small amount of space, low bandwidth, intermittent issues.
+2005-05-12.txt:19:50:16: <pgimeno> there's funpic.org for example, unlimited space and php + mysql
+2005-05-12.txt:19:51:34: <fizzie> Mm-hmm. I've sometimes considered buying some quality hosting space. A local-ish provider (nebula.fi) has this (1GB of space, php+stuff, 25GB/month traffic recommendation) service that'd be 15eur/month, but since I don't have any content to host, I probably won't do that until I have a Real Job or something.
+2005-05-13.txt:08:57:37: <pgimeno> http://web.archive.org/web/20031210145310/http://cyberspace.org/~lament/thue.html
+2005-05-13.txt:08:58:10: <lament> cyberspace.org
+2005-05-13.txt:09:13:58: <lament> just look at http://web.archive.org/web/20031218155802/cyberspace.org/~lament/ instead
+2005-05-21.txt:14:00:56: <kipple> maybe whitespace
+2005-05-21.txt:14:01:19: <pgimeno> hm, whitespace is more like a humorous language
+2005-05-21.txt:14:01:40: <CXI> whitespace is pretty well known
+2005-05-21.txt:14:10:39: <pgimeno> I didn't know about the popularity of Whitespace; before I knew, I thought that it wasn't worth the inclusion
+2005-05-21.txt:14:12:27: <kipple> Whitespace became quite known last year, so it's kind of a piece of internet history
+2005-05-21.txt:14:13:56: <kipple> The main esolang article lists the following as "notable": Befunge, Brainfuck, False, INTERCAL, Malbolge, Shakespeare, Unlambda and Whitespace
+2005-05-22.txt:01:05:07: <kipple> I dislike the wikis that can't have spaces in the links. but maybe that's just me
+2005-05-22.txt:01:08:52: <calamari_> you can use spaces, actually
+2005-05-22.txt:01:09:45: <calamari_> well, you're right.. the link dont have spaces, but the user doesn't know
+2005-05-22.txt:07:43:55: <GregorR> Gregor's customized version of "Wiki!" supports guest posting and file uploads, and titles with spaces in them (which was supported anyway)
+2005-05-22.txt:13:09:41: <pgimeno> you know, I thought that the name came instead from Sierra's Space Quest II adventure where there's a toy called Cubix Rube
+2005-05-24.txt:22:01:50: <pgimeno> space growth can be a problem too, I don't know how MySQL handles that but I think it's the smartest in that sense
+2005-05-24.txt:22:03:35: <malaprop> Space growth?
+2005-05-26.txt:11:21:19: <calamari_> so far it has extremely primitive command line parsing (spaces only, no quotes or escapes).. but it does load and run each program.. they have their own main method
+2005-05-26.txt:23:25:26: <graue> uploads are not in a page; they just wind up in a global namespace
+2005-05-26.txt:23:30:50: <pgimeno> calamari: about namespace collision: say, hello.bf - is it a befunge program or a brainfuck program?
+2005-05-26.txt:23:32:22: <pgimeno> graue: it was just an example of namespace collision :)
+2005-05-27.txt:23:23:58: <Keymaker> (hopefully there is two spaces)
+2005-05-28.txt:03:00:19: <graue> hmm, images of what? Piet programs? Whitespace with syntax highlighting?
+2005-05-28.txt:03:05:13: <graue> check the wikipedia article for Whitespace
+2005-05-28.txt:23:24:21: <lament> wouldn't it be nice for something like ibiblio to give us space
+2005-05-28.txt:23:38:48: <graue> http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Whitespace
+2005-05-29.txt:22:44:05: <jix> and it ignores spaces and 
+ in input.. 
+2005-05-29.txt:23:10:19: <jix> hm 99bob page: Use Whitespace, TABs and Returns to make your code readable.. is it ok to not use them ?
+2005-05-30.txt:02:30:39: <graue> by the way, you technically have a third instruction: whitespace
+2005-06-02.txt:15:31:22: <CXI> a program to take a list of inputs and outputs, and use some kind of state-space search over all possible programs to find a program that matches the inputs and outputs
+2005-06-03.txt:17:06:33: <jix> now i'm going to add whitespace ;)
+2005-06-04.txt:00:09:09: <graue> also, a whitespace interpreter, whitespace, is there
+2005-06-04.txt:13:12:28: <kipple> ok. so how do you separate numbers? space? comma? semicolon? (is this missing from the spec, or am I blind?)
+2005-06-04.txt:13:13:01: <graue> terms are separated by spaces
+2005-06-04.txt:13:51:41: <kipple> hmm. I think I will allow ANY character as a stack name in the next version, except numbers, whitespace and #
+2005-06-04.txt:19:35:26: <cpressey> it's like, being able to write 99 bottles of beer, in less space than writing out the song literally
+2005-06-04.txt:20:17:56: <graue> meta stuff should be in the Esolang namespace since mediawiki likes it that way
+2005-06-04.txt:22:01:17: <fizzie> "Computational complexity" reminds perhaps too much of time/space-complexity, which is really a different issue.
+2005-06-04.txt:22:13:04: <fizzie> You could cheat and classify as Turing-complete all languages that are "turing-complete if not a simple memory space restriction of K, the changing of which would not change the language semantics _that_ much", but that's horribly unexact.
+2005-06-05.txt:12:40:48: <jix> and no other syntax elements (no () no [] no white-spaces no {}...)
+2005-06-05.txt:17:25:29: <pgimeno> "The replacement may contain the special character & to refer to that portion of the patter space which matched, and the special escapes 
 through \9 to refer to the corresponding matching sub-expressions in the regexp." (from the sed man page)
+2005-06-06.txt:11:38:49: <pgimeno> actually it's a joke language to ironize about the lack of space for writing complex programs in some space-limited languages, especially Malbolge
+2005-06-06.txt:21:44:22: <pgimeno> handy free webspace.
+2005-06-06.txt:21:44:22: <pgimeno> own webspace one day, but not yet, so it's a good idea to make a copy.
+2005-06-07.txt:01:14:19: <cpressey> i'm actually wondering if wireworld's unlimited space counts as "tape" or
+2005-06-07.txt:01:17:56: <cpressey> if your "space" looks like this: http://pages.prodigy.net/nylesheise/langton_5.gif  you can make one of those Turmites
+2005-06-07.txt:23:58:12: <lament> they're padded with whitespace at the end to make them of equal length
+2005-06-09.txt:23:36:10: <malaprop> er, there should be a space between -C and -e
+2005-06-10.txt:03:56:43: <graue> i wonder if it could be accommodated by creating a new namespace
+2005-06-10.txt:04:00:17: <graue> i wonder if calamari would go for the "EsoShell:" namespace idea
+2005-06-10.txt:04:01:55: <graue> short story: i think it would be cool if you did your java applet thing in a new namespace on the existing wiki
+2005-06-10.txt:04:34:36: <calamari> any thoughts on how to wrap the filename and source?  need to think about 2d languages, whitespace.. etc :)  gotta run
+2005-06-10.txt:10:46:02: <pgimeno> I think that graue's idea of a separate namespace is a nice solution for everyone
+2005-06-10.txt:19:13:52: <calamari_> so, I'm curious.. how can we display a whitespace program on the wiki without using images?
+2005-06-10.txt:19:14:39: <calamari_> I could invent some kind of escape code, but that wouldn't work well for a 2-d whitespace, if there is ever such a thing
+2005-06-10.txt:19:18:45: <kipple> ah, you were talking about whitespace :)
+2005-06-10.txt:19:40:23: <kipple> anybody know if whitespace it TC?
+2005-06-10.txt:19:46:01: <GregorR> But a whitespace nterpreter should read: 
 - this must be a comment, ignore ... 
+ - line break
+2005-06-10.txt:19:47:39: <GregorR> It'll be CR-LF-PageB-tab-tab-space-lf
+2005-06-10.txt:19:48:19: <GregorR> malaprop: From a UNIX-centric whitespace nterpreters standpoint, 
+ = linebreak.
+2005-06-10.txt:20:47:50: <pgimeno> I've been reading yesterday's log about the possibility of a separate namespace for EsoShell
+2005-06-10.txt:23:24:19: <Keymaker> (less time, less space ;))
+2005-06-13.txt:05:34:37: <calamari> argh.. my esoshell hacks for printed backspaces don't seem to be working right
+2005-06-13.txt:18:04:55: <{^Raven^}> IMHO any current interpreter that allows a program to wander into arbitary workspace is horrificly broken
+2005-06-15.txt:20:39:15: <CXI> specifically, my Whitlams CD and my copy of Freespace
+2005-06-15.txt:20:40:42: <malaprop> CXI: If you want another copy of Freespace, ask me in a couple days when I'm home and I'll see if I have it to rip for you.
+2005-06-16.txt:03:10:27: <calamari> but say you did something like A$=B$+C$.. it would take B$ and C$, determinae a new length for A$, and copy B$ and C$ into the space
+2005-06-16.txt:03:28:29: <calamari> SPACE$ and STRING$ are nice too
+2005-06-16.txt:05:49:02: <tokigun> it contains interpreter, assembler, disassembler of whitespace.
+2005-06-19.txt:18:31:32: <Keymaker> (there should be 7 spaces at one place, i hope this opera chat didn't trim them..)
+2005-06-19.txt:19:32:48: <jix> and you can fill any spaces in the code with 1s and 0s
+2005-06-20.txt:18:20:42: -!- azurespace has joined #esoteric.
+2005-06-20.txt:18:20:52: -!- azurespace has parted #esoteric (?).
+2005-06-24.txt:23:07:20: <{^Raven^}> hmmm, the main problem is the trade off between the space gained by compression and the code size required for decompression
+2005-06-25.txt:00:59:17: <cpressey> having an 8K data file is really a lot of space.  where's the challenge?
+2005-06-25.txt:01:04:10: <cpressey> well... i mean, there still can be a challenge, but it's mostly the same as any other IF competition - just design and implement a good game.  10K is plenty of space to do that in, if you're any good at writing small code.
+2005-06-25.txt:01:04:30: <cpressey> i guess the thing is, i'm running out of ideas, before i've run out of space.  heh
+2005-06-28.txt:20:48:44: <jimbo00000> yea, totally - get that plugin running.  the pc leaves behind alpha scaled trails over the code space
+2005-06-28.txt:20:52:56: <jimbo00000> up to 100 spaces back - gotta click the handle again if youre restarting
+2005-06-28.txt:21:03:18: <jimbo00000> no, what you should see is a 80x25 textfield labeled "Funge Space"
+2005-06-28.txt:22:16:01: <jimbo00000> I just had a wild idea - concurrent pcs in a 2d space executing choon, making chords possible
+2005-06-29.txt:00:51:14: <calamari> I've been trying to set up mediawiki on my webspace, but have 4.0 
+2005-06-29.txt:22:49:42: <lament> but to implement a turing machine, you need infinite space to put the tape in.
+2005-06-29.txt:23:34:53: <cpressey> for wireworld, program space == data space, and it's unbounded.
+2005-06-30.txt:21:01:19: <jix> and if you save wood and space you save water too
+2005-06-30.txt:22:47:13: <calamari> Stork shares packages between clients on the machine, reducing disk space usage and possibly memory usage as well
+2005-07-01.txt:00:03:15: <{^Raven^}> yeah, you can get free geocities space with a yahoo id, tripod does free hosting
+2005-07-01.txt:19:01:46: <graue> you can eliminate wire crossing by using = and | as pipes, where if the IP is moving horizontally and hits | or vertically and hits =, the program ends, and if the IP moves into a blank space or anything else the program ends
+2005-07-01.txt:19:36:03: <calamari> I need to ignore whitespace, and it should be fixed
+2005-07-02.txt:01:12:48: <pgimeno> wouldn't a "nop" (space) be enough?
+2005-07-02.txt:01:18:13: <pgimeno> yeah, but no need for # if a space is in the crosspoint
+2005-07-03.txt:00:15:09: <Kmkr> if there is space before instruction, do i use '!'? like for example
+2005-07-03.txt:00:20:43: <graue> what do you mean if there's space before an instruction?
+2005-07-03.txt:00:20:56: <Kmkr> i mean if there is spaces
+2005-07-03.txt:00:21:00: <graue> if a character doesn't get executed it can be anything (exclamation mark, space, etc)
+2005-07-03.txt:00:23:14: <graue> it means your code left the rectangle of code space
+2005-07-08.txt:23:10:02: <calamari> wow, this monospace 12 font makes 0 and O look identical.. usually one is rounder than the other, not this time
+2005-07-09.txt:10:49:38: <tokigun> i want to use ubuntu linux but i doesn't have enough space
+2005-07-10.txt:09:55:52: <tokigun> SFunge has two registers, infinite code space, and three 2D vector.
+2005-07-10.txt:10:04:05: <tokigun> hmm hello world program reads "Hello, world!" string from its code space.
+2005-07-10.txt:21:31:18: <pgimeno> single-register Minsky machines are very expensive in terms of wasted integer space AFAIK
+2005-07-19.txt:18:47:37: <graue> what would 2L look like if all spaces were treated like +s, and all printing characters like *s, with no nop command?
+2005-07-19.txt:18:51:04: <graue> think about it though, spaces are turns and only *s can actually be executed
+2005-07-19.txt:22:39:47: <GregorR> If sizeof(void *) was infinite, you'd have infinite space to store sizeof(void *) :)
+2005-07-19.txt:23:37:00: <graue> in the other two directions, spaces could be nops
+2005-07-20.txt:17:22:41: <jix> 2L == a language with just 2 instruction (3 if you count space==nop)
+2005-07-20.txt:17:23:50: <Keymaker> but probably the 1L needs two instructions..? or at least one instruction and some 'space'?
+2005-07-20.txt:17:24:51: <jix> the .tr removes some space filling characters
+2005-07-20.txt:17:25:20: <Aardwolf> So the whitespace is ignored?
+2005-07-22.txt:09:12:45: <tokigun> it has two registers, and one vector(or pointer) to manipulate code space
+2005-07-22.txt:09:31:12: <fizzie> Is there a fixed size for "space", or is it potentially-unlimited? 
+2005-07-22.txt:09:39:21: <fizzie> "The cord space which stores the cord on the execution middle is composed of 2 dimension plane surface of the size which is infinite, to each unit the coordinate comes to give."
+2005-07-22.txt:12:24:27: <tokigun> doesn't work. i think my irc client has whitespace problem (or somewhat)...
+2005-07-22.txt:12:26:03: <tokigun> there is three spaces between 0| and 0~4+8... :)
+2005-07-23.txt:05:59:42: <GregorR> Reallocate space
+2005-07-23.txt:17:29:24: <fizzie> It prints out 8 spaces, it seems. :p
+2005-07-23.txt:23:56:23: <Aardwolf> cool, my browser supports the monospaced Hangul font
+2005-07-24.txt:21:56:17: <jix> i do some bf-space o11s ( [odd number of + or -] => z ; delete <>|><|+-|-+ and + or - in front of z)
+2005-07-25.txt:21:02:16: <jix> ah just noted that there is still space for optimizations
+2005-07-25.txt:22:52:38: <jix> i tried to compiler Lost Kingdom.. Out of stack space.
+2005-07-26.txt:12:06:09: <Gs30ng> even space, tab, or newline
+2005-07-26.txt:12:54:48: <Gs30ng> hey, we have a space for one more instruction
+2005-07-26.txt:13:23:50: <jix> i just added the maximum move-up+1 and maximum move-down+1 to the border space of the memory 
+2005-07-26.txt:15:59:45: <Gs30ng> so i think we must use UTF-8 system to guarantee enough memory space
+2005-07-26.txt:16:28:18: <tokigun> i've make several obfuscated interpreter of whitespace and whirl in c... i like esoteric programming, but also obfuscated programming.
+2005-07-26.txt:19:43:33: <Gs30ng> spaces are ignored?
+2005-07-26.txt:19:43:53: <Keymaker> space is just another trigger
+2005-07-27.txt:12:29:54: <int-e> sorry. I understood 'wrapping cells' to mean 'wrapping memory space' which I wouldn't like - but I see that's not what was meant now.
+2005-07-28.txt:00:35:24: <int-e> oh, you added inderection and a very big address space, interesting
+2005-07-28.txt:00:36:04: <Gs30ng> yes, very big address space
+2005-07-28.txt:00:43:34: <Gs30ng> a limited source code can only use a limited memory space
+2005-07-28.txt:01:03:52: <GregorR> Hmm, lemme think ... would it be Turing-complete if it was the code pointer?  You still couldn't access the entire bounds of memory from any location, and hence wouldn't have infinite storage space ...
+2005-07-28.txt:01:06:32: <GregorR> The usual good-enough is "Turing-complete with the exception of finite storage space"
+2005-07-28.txt:01:06:50: <GregorR> (So long as that finite space is enough to actually do anything)
+2005-07-28.txt:01:09:27: <GregorR> Gs30ng: Olde UNIX joke - if yoshell doesn't allow you to delete, backspace becomes ^H
+2005-07-28.txt:01:10:10: <lament> GregorR: and if it does, ^H becomes backspace
+2005-07-28.txt:02:16:44: <Gs30ng> is there any wiki space for sample Udage codes?
+2005-07-29.txt:21:46:47: <calamari> bios functions are very lame though, from a space standpoint.. have to set a lot of registers for even simpel tasks, so that wastes rom space
+2005-07-29.txt:21:47:03: <jix> rom space?
+2005-07-29.txt:21:47:19: <jix> ROM space?
+2005-07-29.txt:21:51:03: <{^Raven^}> a bad idea and i don't believe it's possible to write anything interesting in such small source space
+2005-07-30.txt:20:22:36: <graue> what was * is now space, what was + is now everything else
+2005-07-30.txt:23:43:59: <graue> the spaces are the path
+2005-07-31.txt:02:01:12: <calamari_> graue: in that scheme the only instructions would be @ and nop, depending on number of spaces, < > depending on turn direction, loops based on 3x3 block  
+2005-07-31.txt:16:08:21: <Keymaker> grrh.. space invaders
+2005-08-04.txt:01:39:22: <Gs30ng> is there any brainfuck-brother-lang which has many-dimensional memory space?
+2005-08-04.txt:02:39:07: <Gs30ng> so it's a bf with 4 dimensional memory space?
+2005-08-04.txt:03:27:21: <Gs30ng> well i think there's already one with 2-dim memory space
+2005-08-04.txt:05:47:50: <Gs30ng> you meant the code space?
+2005-08-04.txt:05:59:25: <Gs30ng> sounds like befunge code space or something
+2005-08-05.txt:22:25:34: <int-e> predates namespaces, too.
+2005-08-05.txt:22:32:28: <int-e> there wasn't much to update in that program - I renamed getchar and ungetchar and added a bunch of using namespace std.
+2005-08-11.txt:00:37:55: <jix> fill unused space with random data
+2005-08-12.txt:16:51:18: <tokigun> I suggest adding palette support and different color space rather than RGB to RXML
+2005-08-12.txt:16:52:13: <tokigun> but different color space can be fun
+2005-08-16.txt:18:46:58: <WildHalcyon> You'd need a pretty big code space to do that with reliable precision, wouldn't you?
+2005-08-16.txt:18:47:37: <Gs30ng> or would i rather use brainfuck with 3d codespace?
+2005-08-16.txt:18:48:30: <Gs30ng> i meant 3d memory space, not code space
+2005-08-16.txt:18:49:44: <WildHalcyon> 3D memory space huh? A cube instead of a tape?
+2005-08-16.txt:21:38:45: <Gs30ng> the space not should be 2 dimensional
+2005-08-16.txt:22:25:04: <Gs30ng> NASA guys are calling him by period to ask some questions about the spaceship air supplying system written in bf
+2005-08-16.txt:22:29:02: <GregorR> *checking door panels* *doors open* *doors close (well after the astronauts have been flung into space)* *reactivating oxygen*
+2005-08-17.txt:00:06:28: <jix> (the space thing...)
+2005-08-17.txt:00:23:50: <jix> and even the voyager space thing has a lot of SEX
+2005-08-17.txt:22:28:09: <Gs30ng> where's the space to insert the code
+2005-08-18.txt:06:39:03: <WildHalcyon> Its a funge-varient that implements function spaces that have their own topology (they wrap independent of the rest of the program). The stack is composed of lists, rather than separate elements (like Joy)
+2005-08-20.txt:16:57:34: <nooga> will write numbers from 100 downto 1 separated by spaces ;p 
+2005-08-20.txt:22:58:51: <nooga> i thought about a namespaces ;>
+2005-08-21.txt:08:28:37: <tokigun> nooga: all whitespace is ignored?
+2005-08-21.txt:11:51:05: <WildHalcyon> I think Nooga could free some more instructions if he was running low on implementation space
+2005-08-22.txt:13:22:29: <tokigun> perhaps i have to use something like Ruby's objectspace
+2005-08-23.txt:22:16:38: <WildHalcyon> As Ive mentioned more than is good for me, I'm creating a Funge-derivative which uses separate topological spaces for different functions, and each is given a label
+2005-08-23.txt:22:17:32: <WildHalcyon> Im trying to think of a way in which to assign a cell to multiple function spaces simultaneously
+2005-08-24.txt:21:56:14: <calamari> but it may hurt you as far as descriptions goes.. need space for text 
+2005-08-24.txt:21:57:12: <{^Raven^}> but may add in functionality if you are running out of code space
+2005-08-27.txt:18:48:36: <nooga> today i thought about a namespaces
+2005-08-28.txt:22:00:43: <kipple_> will each user get his own storage space?
+2005-08-28.txt:22:05:34: <calamari> iirc, graue was going to make an alternate namespace for EsoShell
+2005-08-29.txt:11:20:27: <calamari> graue is (or did) create a special wiki namespace EsoShell
+2005-08-29.txt:11:31:18: <calamari> hmm, I wonder if there is a way to get a list of all pages in a particular wiki namespace
+2005-08-29.txt:13:55:31: <jix> 333 bytes of non-space code (the code is indented and not written for shortness)
+2005-08-31.txt:22:49:12: <kipple> though perhaps a bit difficult to fit into such a small space
+2005-09-04.txt:19:40:15: <kipple> true. it has a very limited code-space
+2005-09-06.txt:10:30:57: <graue> I think we need a "hide esoshell namespace edits" patch for the recent changes page
+2005-09-06.txt:10:31:12: <kipple> Is that because the Esoshell namespace is not properly configured?
+2005-09-06.txt:10:31:24: <calamari_> kipple: yeah afaik there isn't an EsoShell nasespace yet
+2005-09-06.txt:10:31:30: <kipple> I thought the recent changes only listed changes in the normal namespace
+2005-09-06.txt:10:33:15: <calamari_> graue: is it difficult to add that namespace?
+2005-09-06.txt:10:35:06: <graue> I have no idea about namespaces, but is there any problem with the current setup, other than the talk pages not being "EsoShell talk"?
+2005-09-06.txt:10:36:37: <calamari_> graue: no, I thought you were wanting the namespace.. if you don't then it doesn't matter 
+2005-09-06.txt:10:39:55: <kipple> to create a custom namespace you must edit the LocalSettings.php : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Custom_namespaces
+2005-09-06.txt:10:51:08: <kipple> oops. are you messing with the namespaces, graue? ;)
+2005-09-06.txt:10:55:21: <graue> actually, I should probably comment out the new namespaces, then go back and delete those pages, then add the namespaces again
+2005-09-07.txt:14:09:06: <jix> that tries to save space
+2005-09-07.txt:14:18:12: <jix> Aardwolf: reusing space