2003-01-21.txt:09:59:01: <fizzie> printed with a befunge prog or something? I recall seeing a sierpinski-triangle-printer once.
2003-01-29.txt:16:00:23: <lament> This is annoying. The more I learn about programming languages, the harder it is to come up with something esoteric.
2003-02-07.txt:04:10:43: <SamB> are you going to spout something esoteric for me?
2003-02-07.txt:04:39:05: <SamB> OT III? is that scientologist or something?
2003-02-13.txt:01:37:00: <exarkun> i dunno, something simple I guess.. could make a cheesy little menu, "configure interpreter", "run program", etc
2003-03-04.txt:03:51:09: <SamB> well, you could use something like MAF as a base to build forths for different hardware on top of ;-)
2003-03-11.txt:05:02:03: <SamB> Taaus: they actually do distribute it, I think its some kind of legal status or something, perhaps they want the government to leave them alone?
2003-03-16.txt:04:04:47: <calamari> might have something
2003-03-16.txt:04:05:15: <Taaus> I guess you could do something like this: "distribute" the contents of the memory cell you wish to test into two other memory cells. You then end up with either N/2 and N/2+1 or two N/2... Subtract these from each other, and you get 0 or 1.
2003-04-12.txt:13:34:01: <Taaus> Well... No reason is as good a reason as any... Or something. ;)
2003-04-20.txt:01:42:06: <lament> Something like Haskell
2003-04-20.txt:01:45:45: <gilbertdeb> so you can do something like 2 + [arraylist]
2003-07-09.txt:03:05:24: <lament> where a machine is something that can change state, e.g. operate
2003-07-09.txt:03:37:54: <lament> GEB sounds like something i really have to read, which is why I don't.
2003-07-26.txt:04:05:12: <Taaus> Or something by Hofstadter.
2003-07-29.txt:18:31:42: <lament> Unless i'm missing something obvious
2003-07-29.txt:18:36:50: <Taaus> Hmm... If it had something akin to doesNotUnderstand:, then it might be possible.
2003-07-29.txt:18:43:33: <lament> or fortran or something
2003-07-29.txt:22:36:53: <Taaus> There's something very bizarre about the interpreter. It doesn't reset the environment between compilations, or something.
2003-07-29.txt:22:38:09: <Taaus> Well, maybe he's fixed it... But it definitely carried over _something_ when I tried it originally..
2003-07-29.txt:23:56:07: <lament> Tiny objecty languages are always fun, but they always lack something.
2003-07-29.txt:23:56:13: <lament> Usually something which Python doesn't lack.
2003-07-30.txt:20:18:55: <Taaus> Hmm... I thought purists.org was kraml.at, or something?
2003-07-30.txt:20:36:57: <lament> i thought you were a CS student or something like that.
2003-07-30.txt:20:53:56: <lament> that sounds like something gould would enjoy!
2003-07-30.txt:21:22:51: <andreou> something is strange here
2003-07-31.txt:18:00:30: <andreou> Like 'got me' or something?
2003-08-01.txt:04:28:16: <dbc> I thought the Thue example programs were a mess. Increment should be something like:
2003-08-01.txt:04:28:43: <dbc> and decrement should be something like:
2003-08-07.txt:21:50:56: <Taaus> Nope... Do you reckon there may be something about it in NKS?
2003-08-12.txt:19:16:25: <Taaus> I was planning on doing something along the lines of a mixture (read: bastard child) of Forth and Scheme.
2003-08-12.txt:19:16:35: <lament> sounds like something i heard of.
2003-08-16.txt:20:47:39: <Taaus> Well... Play something else, then... Say, the violin :)
2003-09-04.txt:01:37:41: <Taaus> Nice. Or something.
2003-09-04.txt:01:47:24: * lament wonders if he was going to say something
2003-09-04.txt:02:18:01: <lament> Is that you always get something wrong!
2003-09-08.txt:13:20:24: <Taaus> ~awaken And now for something completely different.
2003-10-21.txt:00:42:06: <calamari_> well .. found out that my expr1<expr2 was all messed up.. several algorithms later I made something that not only worked for < but > <= and >=.. I was excited :)  ran it through all 65536 combos to make sure each one was perfect
2003-10-21.txt:00:58:20: <andreou> and most of the times to do something usefull you result in using GOSBVLs to supported entry points, i.e. SysRPL commands
2003-10-24.txt:06:38:17: <andreou> and the program is some sort of an exponential regression or something, and i don't know exp. regression :)
2003-10-28.txt:02:23:51: <deltab> do something in the shortest way you can
2003-12-17.txt:06:40:55: <fizzie> our 'introductory course' is scheme, and up to last year it was taught using sicp as the course material and was a moderately challenging course, called (translated) something like 'programming T1', then in the next semester there's 'programming T2' which uses C and java and is utterly trivial.
2003-12-17.txt:06:42:34: <fizzie> (this year 't1' was changed to 'introduction to programming', half of the material was cut away and the book changed to htdp (<something> <something> design programs), because they thought it was _too_ challenging. I'd disagree but no-one asks me.)
2003-12-29.txt:21:58:45: <Lars_G> either overwritting the last position or something else
2003-12-29.txt:22:05:36: <lament> implementations are allowed to delegate their problems to something else
2003-12-29.txt:22:19:18: <lament> if something has an infinite tape, it's a function?
2003-12-29.txt:22:44:38: <maihem> so an implementation is something that when a computer is applied to it, can be applied to a time and unknown event sequence to profuce a function that can be applied to a program in the lanuage that it implements and can produce the same result as that language given some appropriate time and event sequence?
2004-01-22.txt:02:30:04: <fizzie> I think it might have something to do with integrals.
2004-01-22.txt:02:34:44: <fizzie> lectures started.. hm, monday this week? something like that. exams before that.
2004-01-22.txt:02:51:03: <fizzie> I think I'll try to take a two-hour break and try find something to eat during the lecture. the slides should be/appear in the net.
2004-01-22.txt:03:17:21: <fizzie> maybe it's out of fuel or something.
2004-02-08.txt:05:04:32: <Toreun> or something like that
2004-02-08.txt:05:14:26: <Toreun> (or something that is a superset/equivalent of a utm)
2004-02-08.txt:20:52:21: <lament> Toreun: second, you could implement something like the game of life - probably easy with a 2d field and source editing
2004-02-08.txt:21:02:22: <Toreun> you don't really define functions, you define a character to do something
2004-02-10.txt:23:14:56: <fizzie> well, optimally 'both'. first one to confirm the turing-completeness and the second one to make sure you have something to reliably run it on.
2004-02-10.txt:23:27:05: <fizzie> generally I just think php is boring. it does the normal imperative programming basics. oh, there's something I dislike: the "object system", if it can be called that.
2004-02-10.txt:23:51:30: <fizzie> this when I last tried to write something in javascript.
2004-02-10.txt:23:52:11: <lament> yeah, actually getting your program to output something is the most painful part
2004-02-12.txt:00:52:18: <Toreun> unless I can find some sort of recursive acronym or something that would make sense, I wouldn't want something so unoriginal
2004-02-12.txt:01:02:48: <Toreun> well, still, I want a clever name or something
2004-02-12.txt:01:17:37: <Toreun> eso stranges o-something?
2004-02-12.txt:01:23:11: <mooz-> the gui startup should be something as stupid in the movie hackers
2004-02-12.txt:01:30:30: <Toreun> I'd be afraid that something that colorful would bring upon epilepsy
2004-02-13.txt:01:06:58: <calamari_> lighten up or something, that was a joke :P
2004-03-06.txt:09:20:17: <lament> now with something like saxophone that's understandable
2004-04-30.txt:07:47:16: <heatsink> I think it was something like, the text listed programming languages (C, Scheme, Haskell, Brainfudge[1])
2004-04-30.txt:07:49:01: <heatsink> Well, brainfork is not actually known to be turing-complete; besides which brainfooey is not something any sane programmer would want to program in. For more info on brainfufu, look at the website (...). Of course, it's not actually called Brainflock, but we don't want to mention bad words and all that shit.
2004-04-30.txt:21:39:29: <andreou> i hate web-designing; i can't hack together something more than a minimalistic spit
2004-05-01.txt:04:06:52: <heatsink> Hungarian punctuation or something?
2004-05-01.txt:08:02:44: <heatsink> ah, something a little interesting, now
2004-05-01.txt:08:36:07: -!- andreou changed the topic of #esoteric to: http://bitrot.ee.teiath.gr/esoteric/ please provide feedback. the wiki will be ready Really Soon Now.  --  language of the week: http://www.dangermouse.net/esoteric/ook.html write something in/for ook.
2004-05-01.txt:08:40:37: <heatsink> It might be because my screen is over 1200 px wide or something...
2004-05-04.txt:01:11:48: <andreou> hm, coding under the influence of entheogens will probably be *something*
2004-05-04.txt:01:23:10: <Toreun> I guess linking to ?something is gonna have to suffice
2004-05-04.txt:03:01:34: <andreou> ``Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer'' that reminds me of something.
2004-05-04.txt:03:22:37: <andreou> but translated into .png by a bug-ridden malbolge program... that's something.
2004-05-04.txt:03:26:23: <Toreun> something like that
2004-05-04.txt:03:47:11: <Toreun> something about not having whois information
2004-05-04.txt:03:48:10: <andreou> it's probably something else
2004-05-04.txt:03:52:30: <andreou> hm i need something that won't need a whole libc+perl tree
2004-05-04.txt:03:58:45: <heatsink> 1200 by 900 or something like that
2004-05-04.txt:03:59:16: <Toreun> thanks... I figured there should be something there
2004-05-06.txt:01:24:58: <heatsink> Did you send that to something@burr.something?
2004-05-06.txt:01:44:32: <Toreun> actually... let me try something
2004-05-06.txt:01:48:10: <heatsink> Maybe something is caching the webpage
2004-05-06.txt:01:52:22: <heatsink> yeah, something like that
2004-05-06.txt:02:05:21: <heatsink> There's something in the CSS specification about text-align: center only applying to inline elements
2004-05-06.txt:02:05:50: <Toreun> if only it wasn't so difficult to get something standard in webdesign... maybe there would be a turing complete design language
2004-05-07.txt:05:36:40: -!- lament changed the topic of #esoteric to: http://bitrot.ee.teiath.gr/esoteric/ please provide feedback. the wiki will be ready Really Soon Now.  --  language of the week: http://www.dangermouse.net/esoteric/ook.html write something in/for ook. || http://www.mathpages.com/home/kmath135.htm
2004-05-18.txt:22:27:17: <Toreun> of course.  Isn't that a law of computing or something?
2004-05-25.txt:04:42:37: <Toreun> whattaya know, you do learn something new every day
2004-05-25.txt:08:36:16: <fizzie> maybe you should do something radically different, like a 180 degree turn. or did you do that already? hard to say.
2004-05-25.txt:19:50:15: <calamari-> java is something fun you learn later
2004-05-27.txt:12:53:32: <mtve> we can also discuss something publicly :)
2004-05-27.txt:13:00:29: <Keymaker> i just read something about befunge, gotta say i didn't understand anything :O but it seemed interesting
2004-05-27.txt:15:27:07: <fizzie> and if not that, then something from the BBS era.
2004-05-27.txt:15:28:16: <Keymaker> i'll stay with brainf#ck, but this befunge is just something i don't wanna miss :)
2004-05-27.txt:16:32:13: <Keymaker> i'll try to see if i find something someday
2004-05-27.txt:21:58:49: <fizzie> I have seven z80 cpus somewhere here, in case I ever felt like that. 'yleiselektroniikka' sold those for something like 0.50e/piece.
2004-05-27.txt:23:46:34: <fizzie> next time I write a disassembler or a decompiler or something that needs to generate lost labels, I'll just foo-convert the values of the labels.
2004-05-28.txt:20:53:09: <Toreun> true. wow, 16 people in this room, is that a record or something
2004-05-28.txt:20:57:16: <fizzie> something broken in my pdf, makes no sense, apparently few lines are missing.
2004-05-29.txt:07:21:20: <Keymaker> soon i'll have to go and get my something-paper-where-is-grades 'cos summer break (!!) starts..
2004-05-29.txt:07:28:22: <Keymaker> writing something 24/7 you don't like isn't a dream job
2004-05-30.txt:17:18:26: <Keymaker> something good had to happen when i was away for a day..
2004-05-30.txt:17:34:24: <Keymaker> well, i could try to say something between that joining and quiting time :)
2004-05-30.txt:19:25:40: <Keymaker> i'm kinda same when it comes to designing something
2004-05-30.txt:20:05:53: <fizzie> yes, well, "dark hive" sort of needs something like that.
2004-05-30.txt:20:18:18: <fizzie> but then again one could just use scsh or something sensible for those.
2004-05-30.txt:20:22:23: <fizzie> I just wrote a simple perl script to do [something]. I wonder what it might have been.
2004-05-30.txt:21:05:06: <fizzie> "win98 without mouse" sounds like something to use as a punishment for misbehaving slaves.
2004-05-30.txt:21:06:18: <Keymaker> i've been wanting to get linux or something other os than it for many years but couldn't get anything done to that thing :(
2004-05-30.txt:22:06:33: <fizzie> well, if I manage to drag myself to work there's a slight chance I might manage to get something done.
2004-05-31.txt:20:50:25: <fizzie> well, maybe not anything, but something.
2004-06-01.txt:19:28:27: <lament> Not emotionally or something wishy-washy like that.
2004-06-03.txt:15:00:53: <fizzie> I.. dunno. I guess I should try getting home or something.
2004-06-03.txt:16:25:23: <fizzie> and another is a SGI indy (commonly described as "indigo without the go"), which achieves impressive levels of uselessness too. especially since it has irix 6.5.something installed and using it is "a bit" sluggish.
2004-06-04.txt:16:19:18: <fizzie> although the thrill did wear off after the first few months, and now when I have to download something from the Real Internet (as opposed to the local network here or funet) it feels _really really slow._ (usually ~100-500kB/s)
2004-06-04.txt:16:20:03: <fizzie> I guess I'm becoming bandwidth-spoiled or something.
2004-06-04.txt:18:07:49: <Keymaker> darn, i have something wrong in my bf code..
2004-06-04.txt:18:12:56: <fizzie> something in your bf code made you do 'Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)' and stay away from irc an hour? 
2004-06-05.txt:16:57:33: <Keymaker> just small opinion: do you think program should ask 'are you sure you want to ..' things or just do something, or should there be something where user can set it to ask or deactive the feature?
2004-06-10.txt:20:23:15: <lament> or something like that.
2004-06-10.txt:20:54:01: <calamari_> lament: if you have infinit memory space what do you do about something like +[>+] ?
2004-06-10.txt:21:09:53: <lament> automatic refactoring or something?..
2004-06-11.txt:22:11:52: <fizzie> converts ascii-binary to ascii-decimal, I think. something like that anyway.
2004-06-11.txt:22:15:55: <fizzie> uses lots of cells too, something like 3*decimal-digits or 4*decimal-digits of the number.
2004-06-12.txt:12:37:52: <Keymaker> i should soon try doing something..
2004-06-22.txt:18:09:17: <fizzie> and if I have any luck I'll get to do something !java tomorrow.
2004-06-22.txt:19:51:55: <Keymaker> i'll go to eat something
2004-06-23.txt:20:38:16: <Toreun> well, if you're gonna be going for a graduate program, do something in undergrad that won't be too hard or time consuming, and will be able to get you a job when you're through
2004-06-24.txt:17:17:26: <calamari_> quick c question.. I have a getchar().. if it's negative (error) I want it to set to zero.. can I do something like getchar()?:0 
2004-06-24.txt:17:18:51: <fizzie> you have to do something like (c=getchar())>0?c:0
2004-06-26.txt:21:05:19: <bbls> if there is something that can be done by a human brain
2004-06-28.txt:03:43:57: <WildHalcyon__> something works alright only 90% of the time, including the 90%
2004-06-28.txt:18:55:44: <Taaus> From what I've seen, it's something like a typeless C.
2004-06-29.txt:18:03:00: <Toreun> just wondering, did anyone ever make brainfuck-native hardware? I read something about it awhile, and I'm just wondering if anything happened with it
2004-07-02.txt:06:11:07: <WildHalcyon> Anyhow, Toreun, it turns out that SOMETHING has a conflict with one of the windows automatic updates... once I installed it, it would screw up alllllll the time!
2004-07-02.txt:06:32:15: <heatsink> Well, if you have random access, the problem's solved. Just poke the data at (x,y), and the return location at (x+1,y) or something like that
2004-07-02.txt:06:33:44: <heatsink> So something has to move from (x,y) to (a,b) one cell at a time?
2004-07-02.txt:06:33:49: <WildHalcyon> The problem is, I want the language to support arbitrarily large fields, and I can't have an arbitrary goto command on something that can be larger than the biggest integer the language supports
2004-07-06.txt:07:23:32: <WildHalcyon_> hahaha... hmmm... "you're banned until you say something!"
2004-07-06.txt:20:02:51: <calamari_> malloc would look something like: int mem; malloc(int cells) { mem[1] = mem[0]; mem[0] = mem[0] + bytes; return mem[1]; }
2004-07-06.txt:20:04:42: <calamari_> usually, but c allows you to go past the end, or even use array syntax on something that isn't an array
2004-07-06.txt:20:06:36: <fizzie> you mean your C allows you to use array syntax on something that isn't an array? in traditional c a[b] needs to have either a or be to be a pointer.
2004-07-06.txt:20:09:19: <fizzie> guess so. but now when you get a byte[] of something, if you cast an element of it to int all >0x80 values 0xnn get type-extended to 0xffffffnn.
2004-07-08.txt:17:03:06: <calamari_> or something like that
2004-07-08.txt:17:12:24: <fizzie> I wonder how long it'll take before we see the first brainf*ck web server that talks something like SLIP into the input/output streams of brainf*ck.
2004-07-08.txt:17:21:08: <mtve> nope, i remember there was tap interface.  there should be readme or something.
2004-07-08.txt:17:27:06: <calamari_> not sure if it's something with protected mode or what
2004-07-08.txt:17:27:39: <mtve> does it hang or does it print something before death?
2004-07-08.txt:17:31:50: <mtve> that stuff from Adam Dunkels works just like a charm in *nix and easy to debug.  in dos and windows you will need to do something to terminate such a strange networking.
2004-07-12.txt:21:02:01: <calamari_> is there an easy way to deal with that (I'm using something similar to recursive descent, using a stack rather than recursive calls)
2004-07-17.txt:22:55:30: <fizzie> then I used to have a frisbee-like thing, only it was just a ring, not a disc, with a somewhat elastic outer edge, and then ~6cm of fabric inside the outer edge, but that broke. I believe it was called "whoosh" or "woosh" or something like that.
2004-07-26.txt:22:04:57: <Keymaker> maybe i should try to program something nice to my ti-86
2004-08-04.txt:06:09:40: <calamari_> basically the situation is that I'm using registers during evaluation.. for example a=b turns into something like r1=a, r2=b, r1=r2.. however that doesn't transfer the value of b to a.. only to r1.
2004-08-04.txt:06:17:56: <heatsink> What if you have something like getAddress() = getOtherAddress()
2004-08-04.txt:06:42:51: <calamari_> If you need memory you could do something like a=malloc(1000)
2004-08-04.txt:06:49:26: <calamari_> anyhow.. I'll keep thinking on it and see if I can come up with something
2004-08-05.txt:04:46:25: <lament> it says something about ragnarok online.
2004-09-14.txt:21:27:53: <ZeroOne> something has to be thought for orphan letters which probably will appear. maybe if a letter set doesn't form an instruction, it could be pushed to stack
2004-09-14.txt:21:31:39: <ZeroOne> mm. that would be something. error-based language.
2004-09-14.txt:21:47:28: <ZeroOne> hey lindi-... remember that stupid picture in today's Power Point show? the one where the PC was cooking something.
2004-09-23.txt:19:53:25: <ZeroOne> lindi-: so every program would be a polynomial of degree n, or something?
2004-09-23.txt:19:55:18: <ZeroOne> ok... unfortunately I don't have any math software installed... I guess I should soon get something.
2004-09-23.txt:20:42:38: <lindi-> but at least i've learned something this week. when i cycled back home today i could also do some partical fraction decompositions in my head :P
2004-09-25.txt:11:41:21: <dbc> Hm, I'll have to think of something.
2004-10-31.txt:18:54:24: <Keymaker> i realized something
2004-11-07.txt:22:26:19: <fizzie> well: algorithm detection is non-trivial, and it's pretty hard to make sure there are no unexpected effects. "normal" optimizations are hard enough. haven't heard of any compiler that'd do something like that.
2004-11-07.txt:22:29:31: <fizzie> of course implementing something like that might be an interesting exercise, I don't deny that.
2004-11-07.txt:22:31:20: <fizzie> not related, but mooz could perhaps say something here about his "random programs" experiments.
2004-11-14.txt:03:29:42: <calamari_> I think they "liked" the basic compiler better though. Something about seeing a screen full of bf seems to make someone freak out
2004-11-14.txt:05:18:20: <calamari_> one thing I miss, which is kind of weird.. is not having types in python.  Makes it harder to see what something is, because usually a type can be syntax highlighted
2004-12-01.txt:17:37:45: <Keymaker> something about program that would convert
2004-12-17.txt:19:02:39: <Keymaker> it's something x-chat
2004-12-17.txt:19:02:39: <Keymaker> i don't even know how to install something :\
2004-12-17.txt:19:12:13: <Keymaker> hmm, time to get something background to the desktop..
2004-12-19.txt:21:51:32: <fizzie> This one doesn't, we're just happy something happens. :p
2004-12-23.txt:09:47:29: <calamari-> email me if you make something boot up.. I'd love to see it! :)  jeff@kidsquid.com
2004-12-23.txt:12:40:17: <Keymaker> hi; i suck at C, could someone make me small code that would only read something file byte per byte, end when the file is read or stop in case of error.. i can't find good example anywhere :(
2004-12-25.txt:13:58:03: <nooga> maybe im making something bad
2004-12-26.txt:12:36:56: <Keymaker> in some it ends with 0 bottles and in some that there is no more bottles or something..
2004-12-26.txt:12:52:50: <fizzie> Mooz was thinking of perhaps doing a befunge processor with verilog or some other hardware description language as a course project or something. :p
2004-12-26.txt:13:58:59: <ZeroOne> I thought it was something more fundamental
2004-12-26.txt:14:03:29: <ZeroOne> that's something I'd call fundamentally different.
2004-12-26.txt:14:27:28: <ZeroOne> I'd say something like 300 transistors
2004-12-26.txt:21:13:41: <nooga> i thought about something like lisp but more minimal
2004-12-26.txt:21:18:48: <mtve> the area of esoteric languages is quite good explored already.  it's hard it invent something interesting.
2004-12-26.txt:21:53:57: <lament> before trying to create something "new"
2004-12-26.txt:21:55:27: <lament> then just try to come up with something that's like neither one of those :)
2004-12-26.txt:22:44:51: <nooga> and then i will think about something more complicated
2004-12-27.txt:18:47:14: <ZeroOne> ok ;) just google for "free homepage" or something.
2004-12-27.txt:18:54:27: <ZeroOne> like www.keymakersbrainfuck.tk or keymakerbf.cjb.net or something like that
2004-12-27.txt:18:59:32: <lindi-> but currently they have enough money to run it till 2015 or something even if nobody pays
2004-12-27.txt:19:06:37: <lindi-> ZeroOne: it was just something along the lines of "whoops, i forgot to inform person X and service Y about my new address, can't cancel mikrobitti yet"
2004-12-29.txt:19:32:49: <cpressey> i've been pondering ideas for how to get esolangs to talk to the outside world, which is something an eso OS would need.
2005-01-16.txt:12:05:40: <Keymaker> is there something wrong in the following befunge-93 program? here:
2005-01-17.txt:16:42:58: <Keymaker> hmmm, i'm hungry; better (try) to find something to eat :\
2005-01-29.txt:20:45:57: <calamari> arke: I'm talking about something different :)  
2005-02-02.txt:20:42:21: <Keymaker> or something like that :p
2005-02-08.txt:19:32:27: <Keymaker> better try doing something useful.. hmm..
2005-02-10.txt:02:37:28: <lament> or something very similar
2005-02-10.txt:05:05:45: <calamari> that's a good idea for a language.. just would need an interesting mapping of emoticons to getting something done
2005-02-11.txt:21:58:57: <Keymaker> just thought about programming something with php
2005-02-11.txt:21:59:45: <Keymaker> and realized that maybe i could start thinking about something :)
2005-02-16.txt:17:50:00: <Keymaker> hmmm something's wrong in the code...
2005-02-16.txt:17:53:21: <Keymaker> according to the interpreter something causes some overflow
2005-02-18.txt:16:52:00: <Keymaker> hmm. but must go, once again. i try to do something that i probably can't do since i'm a loser.. bye.
2005-02-18.txt:20:44:18: <kipple> I'll try to remember to test it with gcc next time I do something with it (if ever)
2005-02-18.txt:22:33:26: <Keymaker> something tells me it's insane, and something else "send it already"
2005-02-25.txt:00:50:34: <Rogue> i was thinking something more along the lines of MOUSE, or LOGO, 
2005-02-25.txt:00:51:43: <Rogue> you know, any language with sprite abilities can make something like that
2005-02-27.txt:21:04:21: <Keymaker> yeah, this is for fun, although i should take it more seriously. anyways, in my humble opinion world doesn't need that much more programs that do something "useful", like convert cd burners, mp3 players, web design tools, etc.. and that's why it's better to use languages that are a bit more limited and offer enjoyment, and make programs that do interesting stuff, like printing Hello World!, calculate pi, do cellular automaton, print their own source.. :)
2005-03-01.txt:10:51:54: <Keymaker> arke: what's wrong with brainfuck? doing something program or..?
2005-03-04.txt:00:26:09: <{^Raven^}> thus, you want to check for eof so you do something like [-].+++++.,
2005-03-04.txt:00:27:08: <Keymaker> something like that would be good
2005-03-04.txt:00:28:14: <cpressey> {^Raven^}: jeffry was working on something like this.
2005-03-05.txt:13:38:46: <Keymaker> hmmm, or was 1000kb something like megabyte? my brain is ****ed
2005-03-05.txt:13:53:52: <{^Raven^}> i'd like to see a for-profit BrainFuck company ;) that would be something
2005-03-05.txt:20:08:13: <Keymaker> by the way; does anyone know a good mp3 player for linux? like something that's like winamp in windows, like something popular?
2005-03-05.txt:20:28:08: <Keymaker> is it just me or is many brainfuck "tutorial" on the net just actually there to try to make its author look "1337 h4x0r" because he can print his alias in this language? :) as well, it seems that many just covers basic things like ++++[>+++++<-] and says "have fun programming!" or limits to only badly made code of brainfuck program that prints out something..? :)
2005-03-05.txt:20:34:40: <Keymaker> but i hope someday i can get something really awesome done.. ah..
2005-03-05.txt:20:44:30: <cpressey> and yeah, a _real_ tutorial would be nice.  something that demonstrates that it really is just as computationally powerful as java, or whatever is on most coder's minds these days.
2005-03-05.txt:20:50:26: <Keymaker> there should be tutorial to cover more of the cool stuff in brainfuck instead of telling that one can't create something in it (it's just those "tutorial" writers' skills that suck, not the language!)
2005-03-05.txt:22:01:20: <{^Raven^}> maybe someone with the coding ability could create something similiar for BF
2005-03-05.txt:22:17:38: <Keymaker> i sense something like that
2005-03-05.txt:22:59:11: <{^Raven^}> and I want to make something that can be applied to every esoteric language, including malbolge - but i'll not be writing the demonstration code for that one
2005-03-05.txt:23:17:30: <cpressey> but, until i write something up, my taste is a moot point :)
2005-03-05.txt:23:17:35: <cpressey> i'll write something up.
2005-03-06.txt:01:27:36: <calamari> lament: you're right.. I only get the bf urge every once in a while.. but when I do, usually something fun comes of it
2005-03-06.txt:01:55:39: <cpressey> ok, i wrote something up.
2005-03-06.txt:03:30:24: <{^Raven^}> this looks like the start of something interesting
2005-03-06.txt:07:54:41: <cpressey> i've implemented something too
2005-03-06.txt:08:41:16: <cpressey> although in any case the input routine turns into "do i have something to return? if so return it. if not then do real input"
2005-03-06.txt:08:58:02: <cpressey> calamari: it's not that i want to argue, it's just that there are pros and cons to each approach.  i'll consider both sides and write something up, maybe we can get a better idea about it.  in the very worst case, pesoix can support both... somehow :)
2005-03-06.txt:23:59:17: <lindi-> BIOS services, DOS services, something else?
2005-03-07.txt:17:28:18: <Keymaker> or does something not so good..
2005-03-11.txt:04:04:54: <{^Raven^}> no, fork is not something i have played with
2005-03-15.txt:15:59:54: <calamari> that way you can have something that will work for your game
2005-03-16.txt:03:55:45: <calamari> maybe just worked on 1.40 because the array got moved or something
2005-03-17.txt:00:52:20: <calamari> arke: I did something similar in a previous contest.. first I wrote it in basic, using functions.. then I removed the functions and used gosub, then I removed the gosubs, just using if/goto/stack.  then I saw that someone had it to something like 37 bf instructions, and I gave up :)
2005-03-17.txt:04:22:15: <calamari> I think I just figured it out.. was on to something with the diagonals.  If the sums are displayed on a grid:
2005-03-17.txt:04:28:44: <calamari> anyhow, what I'm getting at is that the "formula" goes something like: 
2005-03-17.txt:19:33:23: <Keymaker> hey.. iirc was there something that had only three instructions or something? the name sounded like something OISC or something.. can't remember, read in wikipedia..
2005-03-17.txt:19:43:21: <Keymaker> it complains something to me
2005-03-17.txt:20:58:25: <calamari> one thing to know about cvs is that once something is put on, it can be removed, but it will still be there, in a deleted fashion
2005-03-17.txt:20:59:04: <calamari> to add something to the repository, you first tell it cvs add (filename)
2005-03-17.txt:21:00:54: <calamari> it will ask for a log file entry.. put something like "initial version" 
2005-03-17.txt:23:30:07: <calamari> bah, something is wrong with it
2005-03-18.txt:19:28:33: <calamari> hmm, may have something
2005-03-19.txt:22:46:41: <Keymaker> is there something wrong in implementation?
2005-03-20.txt:05:36:26: <calamari> do you have irc wake you up or something?
2005-03-20.txt:06:36:42: <calamari> c can't be completely interpreted by bf without something like pesoix
2005-03-24.txt:23:02:37: <Keymaker> but at least you can say you can program something in brainfuck if you can do this ;)
2005-03-28.txt:09:23:18: <Keymaker> as well, has the code something to do with roman numbers? (just thought about the file name roman5.bf and those I, V, X.. stuff there)
2005-03-30.txt:14:10:12: <matricks> Tefad: something like that
2005-03-31.txt:16:40:02: <Keymaker> it can be this mandrake 10.0 has crap software or then something's wrong, but can't get a file that is about on mb opened..
2005-03-31.txt:16:42:31: <Keymaker> something really strange is happening.
2005-04-01.txt:10:51:15: <Keymaker> "The user asked Petrovich to do something with a soft porn file, and Petrovich responded by deleting the file. The user did not want this to happen, so punishes Petrovich." :p
2005-04-05.txt:15:41:43: <kipple> but I'll probably call it bloated kipple or something :)
2005-04-05.txt:15:55:18: <Keymaker> by the way, could the web applet perhaps have some counter for every loop, that if something loop is executed, let's say more than 2000000 times it would quit and assume the program got stuck in infinite loop?
2005-04-05.txt:15:57:17: <kipple> kipple is something I work on when I get inspiration. and inspiration is closely related to feedback :)
2005-04-05.txt:15:57:45: <kipple> so something will probably happen soon :)
2005-04-06.txt:10:38:48: <graue> i'm going to do something really cool now :)
2005-04-09.txt:05:31:43: <graue> i remember, while skimming the list archives, seeing something about one
2005-04-14.txt:21:22:05: <Keymaker> i try to contribute something sometime
2005-04-14.txt:22:27:30: <kipple> it shouldn't be a problem having a C program read from an infinite tape stream, just like a turing machine. Or am I missing something here??
2005-04-14.txt:22:31:32: <fizzie> Input, yes, but a Turing machine needs a seekable and rewritable "something" for the tape.
2005-04-15.txt:20:00:54: <Keymaker> grrrrrrrr although seems there still is some bug.. there's something wrong with memory movement although it now loads the numbers correctly
2005-04-24.txt:02:49:42: <dilbert42> anyone here knows something about a dinosaur named 'stenonychosaure' ????
2005-04-28.txt:17:32:51: <Keymaker> but is there something different with befunge?
2005-04-28.txt:19:52:56: <Keymaker> probably should read something Turing Machines for Dummies
2005-04-28.txt:19:52:59: <Keymaker> or something
2005-04-28.txt:20:30:22: <Keymaker> or something
2005-05-01.txt:16:30:28: <pgimeno> btw, formauri.es is back online; it was probably on mainteinance or something
2005-05-04.txt:05:33:26: <GregorR> Hmmmmmm, just noticed something that may be a bug...
2005-05-04.txt:05:34:52: <GregorR> Then there's probably something snarky about your once-through thread.
2005-05-04.txt:19:39:11: <GregorR-L> And that's something.
2005-05-04.txt:19:53:17: <pgimeno> does anyone know something about BLANK? is it 2D?
2005-05-04.txt:20:17:37: <Keymaker> that probably means someone has managed to make some loop stuff or something?
2005-05-04.txt:21:19:48: <pgimeno> a state machine, something like a Turing machine but unidirectional (someone correct me if I'm wrong)
2005-05-04.txt:21:30:28: <Keymaker> now.. make an interpreter, i wanna code something!
2005-05-05.txt:11:27:53: <fizzie> Ooh, a "step out of current loop" feature is something I've really been looking forward to. :)
2005-05-05.txt:14:38:55: <fizzie> I'm trying to debug my regexp compiler by looking at the state machines it creates. For something simple like that 'a(a|b)*b|b(a|b)*a' example it works, but for this date-with-time-validating regular expression the generated state machine is.. not very visualizable. You can look at http://gehennom.org/~fis/re.png for an example, but it's a 8422x6504-sized png so looking at it can be a bit sluggish.
2005-05-05.txt:15:46:27: <fizzie> ((0|1|2|_)(1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)|3(0|1)) should be something like ((0|1|2_)(1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)|(1|2)0|3(0|1))
2005-05-05.txt:16:33:46: <pgimeno> something like http://www.formauri.es/personal/GregorR/<your page>
2005-05-05.txt:19:15:14: <GregorR-L> Well, I could paste something in here...
2005-05-06.txt:00:39:55: * kipple has learned something today
2005-05-06.txt:08:23:12: <lament> 4000 or something, but nobody cares much
2005-05-06.txt:15:42:26: <Keymaker> and yes, the dvd player here in linux complains something that "error reading NAV packet"
2005-05-06.txt:15:44:09: <Keymaker> so i can't install any new program here probably, not to mention finding some stuff from web if i need to get something
2005-05-06.txt:21:17:39: <pgimeno> oh well, I'm currently using PHP but I guess I could port it to something else
2005-05-06.txt:21:39:45: <GregorR> pgimeno: I just figured out what you meant so many messages ago about "currently in PHP but I could port it to something else"
2005-05-06.txt:21:40:56: <pgimeno> do you mean as a background or something?
2005-05-06.txt:22:55:19: <GregorR> BTW, is the esolangs page going to have something like an editor's choice of languages?
2005-05-06.txt:23:43:35: <KnX> it's just because i have always some difficulties to find names for my variables and structs , and for something a part of a fingerprint, i thought about a phalanxprint, but i think it won't help anybody to understand with a name like this ...
2005-05-07.txt:00:14:25: <pgimeno> rather than "Yo estoy bueno" it'd be "Estoy bien" ("Yo estoy bueno" is something like "I look awesome" in local slang)
2005-05-07.txt:00:16:46: <KnX> remember me something ...
2005-05-07.txt:00:17:22: <KnX> saying "estas bueno" or something like this to say it was ok
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