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1 2003-01-21.txt:09:59:01: <fizzie> printed with a befunge prog or something? I recall seeing a sierpinski-triangle-printer once.
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2 2003-01-29.txt:16:00:23: <lament> This is annoying. The more I learn about programming languages, the harder it is to come up with something esoteric.
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3 2003-02-07.txt:04:10:43: <SamB> are you going to spout something esoteric for me?
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4 2003-02-07.txt:04:39:05: <SamB> OT III? is that scientologist or something?
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5 2003-02-13.txt:01:37:00: <exarkun> i dunno, something simple I guess.. could make a cheesy little menu, "configure interpreter", "run program", etc
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6 2003-03-04.txt:03:51:09: <SamB> well, you could use something like MAF as a base to build forths for different hardware on top of ;-)
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7 2003-03-11.txt:05:02:03: <SamB> Taaus: they actually do distribute it, I think its some kind of legal status or something, perhaps they want the government to leave them alone?
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8 2003-03-16.txt:04:04:47: <calamari> might have something
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9 2003-03-16.txt:04:05:15: <Taaus> I guess you could do something like this: "distribute" the contents of the memory cell you wish to test into two other memory cells. You then end up with either N/2 and N/2+1 or two N/2... Subtract these from each other, and you get 0 or 1.
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10 2003-04-12.txt:13:34:01: <Taaus> Well... No reason is as good a reason as any... Or something. ;)
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11 2003-04-20.txt:01:42:06: <lament> Something like Haskell
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12 2003-04-20.txt:01:45:45: <gilbertdeb> so you can do something like 2 + [arraylist]
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13 2003-07-09.txt:03:05:24: <lament> where a machine is something that can change state, e.g. operate
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14 2003-07-09.txt:03:37:54: <lament> GEB sounds like something i really have to read, which is why I don't.
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15 2003-07-26.txt:04:05:12: <Taaus> Or something by Hofstadter.
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16 2003-07-29.txt:18:31:42: <lament> Unless i'm missing something obvious
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17 2003-07-29.txt:18:36:50: <Taaus> Hmm... If it had something akin to doesNotUnderstand:, then it might be possible.
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18 2003-07-29.txt:18:43:33: <lament> or fortran or something
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19 2003-07-29.txt:22:36:53: <Taaus> There's something very bizarre about the interpreter. It doesn't reset the environment between compilations, or something.
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20 2003-07-29.txt:22:38:09: <Taaus> Well, maybe he's fixed it... But it definitely carried over _something_ when I tried it originally..
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21 2003-07-29.txt:23:56:07: <lament> Tiny objecty languages are always fun, but they always lack something.
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22 2003-07-29.txt:23:56:13: <lament> Usually something which Python doesn't lack.
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23 2003-07-30.txt:20:18:55: <Taaus> Hmm... I thought purists.org was kraml.at, or something?
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24 2003-07-30.txt:20:36:57: <lament> i thought you were a CS student or something like that.
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25 2003-07-30.txt:20:53:56: <lament> that sounds like something gould would enjoy!
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26 2003-07-30.txt:21:22:51: <andreou> something is strange here
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27 2003-07-31.txt:18:00:30: <andreou> Like 'got me' or something?
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28 2003-08-01.txt:04:28:16: <dbc> I thought the Thue example programs were a mess. Increment should be something like:
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29 2003-08-01.txt:04:28:43: <dbc> and decrement should be something like:
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30 2003-08-07.txt:21:50:56: <Taaus> Nope... Do you reckon there may be something about it in NKS?
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31 2003-08-12.txt:19:16:25: <Taaus> I was planning on doing something along the lines of a mixture (read: bastard child) of Forth and Scheme.
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32 2003-08-12.txt:19:16:35: <lament> sounds like something i heard of.
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33 2003-08-16.txt:20:47:39: <Taaus> Well... Play something else, then... Say, the violin :)
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34 2003-09-04.txt:01:37:41: <Taaus> Nice. Or something.
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35 2003-09-04.txt:01:47:24: * lament wonders if he was going to say something
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36 2003-09-04.txt:02:18:01: <lament> Is that you always get something wrong!
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37 2003-09-08.txt:13:20:24: <Taaus> ~awaken And now for something completely different.
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38 2003-10-21.txt:00:42:06: <calamari_> well .. found out that my expr1<expr2 was all messed up.. several algorithms later I made something that not only worked for < but > <= and >=.. I was excited :) ran it through all 65536 combos to make sure each one was perfect
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39 2003-10-21.txt:00:58:20: <andreou> and most of the times to do something usefull you result in using GOSBVLs to supported entry points, i.e. SysRPL commands
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40 2003-10-24.txt:06:38:17: <andreou> and the program is some sort of an exponential regression or something, and i don't know exp. regression :)
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41 2003-10-28.txt:02:23:51: <deltab> do something in the shortest way you can
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42 2003-12-17.txt:06:40:55: <fizzie> our 'introductory course' is scheme, and up to last year it was taught using sicp as the course material and was a moderately challenging course, called (translated) something like 'programming T1', then in the next semester there's 'programming T2' which uses C and java and is utterly trivial.
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43 2003-12-17.txt:06:42:34: <fizzie> (this year 't1' was changed to 'introduction to programming', half of the material was cut away and the book changed to htdp (<something> <something> design programs), because they thought it was _too_ challenging. I'd disagree but no-one asks me.)
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44 2003-12-29.txt:21:58:45: <Lars_G> either overwritting the last position or something else
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45 2003-12-29.txt:22:05:36: <lament> implementations are allowed to delegate their problems to something else
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46 2003-12-29.txt:22:19:18: <lament> if something has an infinite tape, it's a function?
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47 2003-12-29.txt:22:44:38: <maihem> so an implementation is something that when a computer is applied to it, can be applied to a time and unknown event sequence to profuce a function that can be applied to a program in the lanuage that it implements and can produce the same result as that language given some appropriate time and event sequence?
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48 2004-01-22.txt:02:30:04: <fizzie> I think it might have something to do with integrals.
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49 2004-01-22.txt:02:34:44: <fizzie> lectures started.. hm, monday this week? something like that. exams before that.
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50 2004-01-22.txt:02:51:03: <fizzie> I think I'll try to take a two-hour break and try find something to eat during the lecture. the slides should be/appear in the net.
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51 2004-01-22.txt:03:17:21: <fizzie> maybe it's out of fuel or something.
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52 2004-02-08.txt:05:04:32: <Toreun> or something like that
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53 2004-02-08.txt:05:14:26: <Toreun> (or something that is a superset/equivalent of a utm)
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54 2004-02-08.txt:20:52:21: <lament> Toreun: second, you could implement something like the game of life - probably easy with a 2d field and source editing
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55 2004-02-08.txt:21:02:22: <Toreun> you don't really define functions, you define a character to do something
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56 2004-02-10.txt:23:14:56: <fizzie> well, optimally 'both'. first one to confirm the turing-completeness and the second one to make sure you have something to reliably run it on.
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57 2004-02-10.txt:23:27:05: <fizzie> generally I just think php is boring. it does the normal imperative programming basics. oh, there's something I dislike: the "object system", if it can be called that.
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58 2004-02-10.txt:23:51:30: <fizzie> this when I last tried to write something in javascript.
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59 2004-02-10.txt:23:52:11: <lament> yeah, actually getting your program to output something is the most painful part
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60 2004-02-12.txt:00:52:18: <Toreun> unless I can find some sort of recursive acronym or something that would make sense, I wouldn't want something so unoriginal
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61 2004-02-12.txt:01:02:48: <Toreun> well, still, I want a clever name or something
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62 2004-02-12.txt:01:17:37: <Toreun> eso stranges o-something?
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63 2004-02-12.txt:01:23:11: <mooz-> the gui startup should be something as stupid in the movie hackers
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64 2004-02-12.txt:01:30:30: <Toreun> I'd be afraid that something that colorful would bring upon epilepsy
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65 2004-02-13.txt:01:06:58: <calamari_> lighten up or something, that was a joke :P
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66 2004-03-06.txt:09:20:17: <lament> now with something like saxophone that's understandable
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67 2004-04-30.txt:07:47:16: <heatsink> I think it was something like, the text listed programming languages (C, Scheme, Haskell, Brainfudge[1])
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68 2004-04-30.txt:07:49:01: <heatsink> Well, brainfork is not actually known to be turing-complete; besides which brainfooey is not something any sane programmer would want to program in. For more info on brainfufu, look at the website (...). Of course, it's not actually called Brainflock, but we don't want to mention bad words and all that shit.
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69 2004-04-30.txt:21:39:29: <andreou> i hate web-designing; i can't hack together something more than a minimalistic spit
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70 2004-05-01.txt:04:06:52: <heatsink> Hungarian punctuation or something?
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71 2004-05-01.txt:08:02:44: <heatsink> ah, something a little interesting, now
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72 2004-05-01.txt:08:36:07: -!- andreou changed the topic of #esoteric to: http://bitrot.ee.teiath.gr/esoteric/ please provide feedback. the wiki will be ready Really Soon Now. -- language of the week: http://www.dangermouse.net/esoteric/ook.html write something in/for ook.
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73 2004-05-01.txt:08:40:37: <heatsink> It might be because my screen is over 1200 px wide or something...
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74 2004-05-04.txt:01:11:48: <andreou> hm, coding under the influence of entheogens will probably be *something*
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75 2004-05-04.txt:01:23:10: <Toreun> I guess linking to ?something is gonna have to suffice
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76 2004-05-04.txt:03:01:34: <andreou> ``Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer'' that reminds me of something.
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77 2004-05-04.txt:03:22:37: <andreou> but translated into .png by a bug-ridden malbolge program... that's something.
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78 2004-05-04.txt:03:26:23: <Toreun> something like that
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79 2004-05-04.txt:03:47:11: <Toreun> something about not having whois information
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80 2004-05-04.txt:03:48:10: <andreou> it's probably something else
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81 2004-05-04.txt:03:52:30: <andreou> hm i need something that won't need a whole libc+perl tree
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82 2004-05-04.txt:03:58:45: <heatsink> 1200 by 900 or something like that
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83 2004-05-04.txt:03:59:16: <Toreun> thanks... I figured there should be something there
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84 2004-05-06.txt:01:24:58: <heatsink> Did you send that to something@burr.something?
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85 2004-05-06.txt:01:44:32: <Toreun> actually... let me try something
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86 2004-05-06.txt:01:48:10: <heatsink> Maybe something is caching the webpage
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87 2004-05-06.txt:01:52:22: <heatsink> yeah, something like that
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88 2004-05-06.txt:02:05:21: <heatsink> There's something in the CSS specification about text-align: center only applying to inline elements
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89 2004-05-06.txt:02:05:50: <Toreun> if only it wasn't so difficult to get something standard in webdesign... maybe there would be a turing complete design language
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90 2004-05-07.txt:05:36:40: -!- lament changed the topic of #esoteric to: http://bitrot.ee.teiath.gr/esoteric/ please provide feedback. the wiki will be ready Really Soon Now. -- language of the week: http://www.dangermouse.net/esoteric/ook.html write something in/for ook. || http://www.mathpages.com/home/kmath135.htm
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91 2004-05-18.txt:22:27:17: <Toreun> of course. Isn't that a law of computing or something?
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92 2004-05-25.txt:04:42:37: <Toreun> whattaya know, you do learn something new every day
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93 2004-05-25.txt:08:36:16: <fizzie> maybe you should do something radically different, like a 180 degree turn. or did you do that already? hard to say.
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94 2004-05-25.txt:19:50:15: <calamari-> java is something fun you learn later
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95 2004-05-27.txt:12:53:32: <mtve> we can also discuss something publicly :)
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96 2004-05-27.txt:13:00:29: <Keymaker> i just read something about befunge, gotta say i didn't understand anything :O but it seemed interesting
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97 2004-05-27.txt:15:27:07: <fizzie> and if not that, then something from the BBS era.
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98 2004-05-27.txt:15:28:16: <Keymaker> i'll stay with brainf#ck, but this befunge is just something i don't wanna miss :)
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99 2004-05-27.txt:16:32:13: <Keymaker> i'll try to see if i find something someday
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100 2004-05-27.txt:21:58:49: <fizzie> I have seven z80 cpus somewhere here, in case I ever felt like that. 'yleiselektroniikka' sold those for something like 0.50e/piece.
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101 2004-05-27.txt:23:46:34: <fizzie> next time I write a disassembler or a decompiler or something that needs to generate lost labels, I'll just foo-convert the values of the labels.
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102 2004-05-28.txt:20:53:09: <Toreun> true. wow, 16 people in this room, is that a record or something
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103 2004-05-28.txt:20:57:16: <fizzie> something broken in my pdf, makes no sense, apparently few lines are missing.
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104 2004-05-29.txt:07:21:20: <Keymaker> soon i'll have to go and get my something-paper-where-is-grades 'cos summer break (!!) starts..
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105 2004-05-29.txt:07:28:22: <Keymaker> writing something 24/7 you don't like isn't a dream job
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106 2004-05-30.txt:17:18:26: <Keymaker> something good had to happen when i was away for a day..
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107 2004-05-30.txt:17:34:24: <Keymaker> well, i could try to say something between that joining and quiting time :)
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108 2004-05-30.txt:19:25:40: <Keymaker> i'm kinda same when it comes to designing something
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109 2004-05-30.txt:20:05:53: <fizzie> yes, well, "dark hive" sort of needs something like that.
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110 2004-05-30.txt:20:18:18: <fizzie> but then again one could just use scsh or something sensible for those.
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111 2004-05-30.txt:20:22:23: <fizzie> I just wrote a simple perl script to do [something]. I wonder what it might have been.
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112 2004-05-30.txt:21:05:06: <fizzie> "win98 without mouse" sounds like something to use as a punishment for misbehaving slaves.
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113 2004-05-30.txt:21:06:18: <Keymaker> i've been wanting to get linux or something other os than it for many years but couldn't get anything done to that thing :(
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114 2004-05-30.txt:22:06:33: <fizzie> well, if I manage to drag myself to work there's a slight chance I might manage to get something done.
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115 2004-05-31.txt:20:50:25: <fizzie> well, maybe not anything, but something.
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116 2004-06-01.txt:19:28:27: <lament> Not emotionally or something wishy-washy like that.
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117 2004-06-03.txt:15:00:53: <fizzie> I.. dunno. I guess I should try getting home or something.
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118 2004-06-03.txt:16:25:23: <fizzie> and another is a SGI indy (commonly described as "indigo without the go"), which achieves impressive levels of uselessness too. especially since it has irix 6.5.something installed and using it is "a bit" sluggish.
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119 2004-06-04.txt:16:19:18: <fizzie> although the thrill did wear off after the first few months, and now when I have to download something from the Real Internet (as opposed to the local network here or funet) it feels _really really slow._ (usually ~100-500kB/s)
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120 2004-06-04.txt:16:20:03: <fizzie> I guess I'm becoming bandwidth-spoiled or something.
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121 2004-06-04.txt:18:07:49: <Keymaker> darn, i have something wrong in my bf code..
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122 2004-06-04.txt:18:12:56: <fizzie> something in your bf code made you do 'Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)' and stay away from irc an hour?
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123 2004-06-05.txt:16:57:33: <Keymaker> just small opinion: do you think program should ask 'are you sure you want to ..' things or just do something, or should there be something where user can set it to ask or deactive the feature?
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124 2004-06-10.txt:20:23:15: <lament> or something like that.
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125 2004-06-10.txt:20:54:01: <calamari_> lament: if you have infinit memory space what do you do about something like +[>+] ?
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126 2004-06-10.txt:21:09:53: <lament> automatic refactoring or something?..
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127 2004-06-11.txt:22:11:52: <fizzie> converts ascii-binary to ascii-decimal, I think. something like that anyway.
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128 2004-06-11.txt:22:15:55: <fizzie> uses lots of cells too, something like 3*decimal-digits or 4*decimal-digits of the number.
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129 2004-06-12.txt:12:37:52: <Keymaker> i should soon try doing something..
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130 2004-06-22.txt:18:09:17: <fizzie> and if I have any luck I'll get to do something !java tomorrow.
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131 2004-06-22.txt:19:51:55: <Keymaker> i'll go to eat something
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132 2004-06-23.txt:20:38:16: <Toreun> well, if you're gonna be going for a graduate program, do something in undergrad that won't be too hard or time consuming, and will be able to get you a job when you're through
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133 2004-06-24.txt:17:17:26: <calamari_> quick c question.. I have a getchar().. if it's negative (error) I want it to set to zero.. can I do something like getchar()?:0
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134 2004-06-24.txt:17:18:51: <fizzie> you have to do something like (c=getchar())>0?c:0
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135 2004-06-26.txt:21:05:19: <bbls> if there is something that can be done by a human brain
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136 2004-06-28.txt:03:43:57: <WildHalcyon__> something works alright only 90% of the time, including the 90%
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137 2004-06-28.txt:18:55:44: <Taaus> From what I've seen, it's something like a typeless C.
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138 2004-06-29.txt:18:03:00: <Toreun> just wondering, did anyone ever make brainfuck-native hardware? I read something about it awhile, and I'm just wondering if anything happened with it
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139 2004-07-02.txt:06:11:07: <WildHalcyon> Anyhow, Toreun, it turns out that SOMETHING has a conflict with one of the windows automatic updates... once I installed it, it would screw up alllllll the time!
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140 2004-07-02.txt:06:32:15: <heatsink> Well, if you have random access, the problem's solved. Just poke the data at (x,y), and the return location at (x+1,y) or something like that
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141 2004-07-02.txt:06:33:44: <heatsink> So something has to move from (x,y) to (a,b) one cell at a time?
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142 2004-07-02.txt:06:33:49: <WildHalcyon> The problem is, I want the language to support arbitrarily large fields, and I can't have an arbitrary goto command on something that can be larger than the biggest integer the language supports
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143 2004-07-06.txt:07:23:32: <WildHalcyon_> hahaha... hmmm... "you're banned until you say something!"
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144 2004-07-06.txt:20:02:51: <calamari_> malloc would look something like: int mem; malloc(int cells) { mem[1] = mem[0]; mem[0] = mem[0] + bytes; return mem[1]; }
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145 2004-07-06.txt:20:04:42: <calamari_> usually, but c allows you to go past the end, or even use array syntax on something that isn't an array
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146 2004-07-06.txt:20:06:36: <fizzie> you mean your C allows you to use array syntax on something that isn't an array? in traditional c a[b] needs to have either a or be to be a pointer.
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147 2004-07-06.txt:20:09:19: <fizzie> guess so. but now when you get a byte[] of something, if you cast an element of it to int all >0x80 values 0xnn get type-extended to 0xffffffnn.
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148 2004-07-08.txt:17:03:06: <calamari_> or something like that
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149 2004-07-08.txt:17:12:24: <fizzie> I wonder how long it'll take before we see the first brainf*ck web server that talks something like SLIP into the input/output streams of brainf*ck.
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150 2004-07-08.txt:17:21:08: <mtve> nope, i remember there was tap interface. there should be readme or something.
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151 2004-07-08.txt:17:27:06: <calamari_> not sure if it's something with protected mode or what
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152 2004-07-08.txt:17:27:39: <mtve> does it hang or does it print something before death?
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153 2004-07-08.txt:17:31:50: <mtve> that stuff from Adam Dunkels works just like a charm in *nix and easy to debug. in dos and windows you will need to do something to terminate such a strange networking.
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154 2004-07-12.txt:21:02:01: <calamari_> is there an easy way to deal with that (I'm using something similar to recursive descent, using a stack rather than recursive calls)
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155 2004-07-17.txt:22:55:30: <fizzie> then I used to have a frisbee-like thing, only it was just a ring, not a disc, with a somewhat elastic outer edge, and then ~6cm of fabric inside the outer edge, but that broke. I believe it was called "whoosh" or "woosh" or something like that.
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156 2004-07-26.txt:22:04:57: <Keymaker> maybe i should try to program something nice to my ti-86
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157 2004-08-04.txt:06:09:40: <calamari_> basically the situation is that I'm using registers during evaluation.. for example a=b turns into something like r1=a, r2=b, r1=r2.. however that doesn't transfer the value of b to a.. only to r1.
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158 2004-08-04.txt:06:17:56: <heatsink> What if you have something like getAddress() = getOtherAddress()
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159 2004-08-04.txt:06:42:51: <calamari_> If you need memory you could do something like a=malloc(1000)
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160 2004-08-04.txt:06:49:26: <calamari_> anyhow.. I'll keep thinking on it and see if I can come up with something
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161 2004-08-05.txt:04:46:25: <lament> it says something about ragnarok online.
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162 2004-09-14.txt:21:27:53: <ZeroOne> something has to be thought for orphan letters which probably will appear. maybe if a letter set doesn't form an instruction, it could be pushed to stack
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163 2004-09-14.txt:21:31:39: <ZeroOne> mm. that would be something. error-based language.
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164 2004-09-14.txt:21:47:28: <ZeroOne> hey lindi-... remember that stupid picture in today's Power Point show? the one where the PC was cooking something.
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165 2004-09-23.txt:19:53:25: <ZeroOne> lindi-: so every program would be a polynomial of degree n, or something?
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166 2004-09-23.txt:19:55:18: <ZeroOne> ok... unfortunately I don't have any math software installed... I guess I should soon get something.
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167 2004-09-23.txt:20:42:38: <lindi-> but at least i've learned something this week. when i cycled back home today i could also do some partical fraction decompositions in my head :P
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168 2004-09-25.txt:11:41:21: <dbc> Hm, I'll have to think of something.
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169 2004-10-31.txt:18:54:24: <Keymaker> i realized something
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170 2004-11-07.txt:22:26:19: <fizzie> well: algorithm detection is non-trivial, and it's pretty hard to make sure there are no unexpected effects. "normal" optimizations are hard enough. haven't heard of any compiler that'd do something like that.
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171 2004-11-07.txt:22:29:31: <fizzie> of course implementing something like that might be an interesting exercise, I don't deny that.
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172 2004-11-07.txt:22:31:20: <fizzie> not related, but mooz could perhaps say something here about his "random programs" experiments.
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173 2004-11-14.txt:03:29:42: <calamari_> I think they "liked" the basic compiler better though. Something about seeing a screen full of bf seems to make someone freak out
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174 2004-11-14.txt:05:18:20: <calamari_> one thing I miss, which is kind of weird.. is not having types in python. Makes it harder to see what something is, because usually a type can be syntax highlighted
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175 2004-12-01.txt:17:37:45: <Keymaker> something about program that would convert
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176 2004-12-17.txt:19:02:39: <Keymaker> it's something x-chat
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177 2004-12-17.txt:19:02:39: <Keymaker> i don't even know how to install something :\
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178 2004-12-17.txt:19:12:13: <Keymaker> hmm, time to get something background to the desktop..
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179 2004-12-19.txt:21:51:32: <fizzie> This one doesn't, we're just happy something happens. :p
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180 2004-12-23.txt:09:47:29: <calamari-> email me if you make something boot up.. I'd love to see it! :) jeff@kidsquid.com
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181 2004-12-23.txt:12:40:17: <Keymaker> hi; i suck at C, could someone make me small code that would only read something file byte per byte, end when the file is read or stop in case of error.. i can't find good example anywhere :(
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182 2004-12-25.txt:13:58:03: <nooga> maybe im making something bad
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183 2004-12-26.txt:12:36:56: <Keymaker> in some it ends with 0 bottles and in some that there is no more bottles or something..
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184 2004-12-26.txt:12:52:50: <fizzie> Mooz was thinking of perhaps doing a befunge processor with verilog or some other hardware description language as a course project or something. :p
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185 2004-12-26.txt:13:58:59: <ZeroOne> I thought it was something more fundamental
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186 2004-12-26.txt:14:03:29: <ZeroOne> that's something I'd call fundamentally different.
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187 2004-12-26.txt:14:27:28: <ZeroOne> I'd say something like 300 transistors
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188 2004-12-26.txt:21:13:41: <nooga> i thought about something like lisp but more minimal
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189 2004-12-26.txt:21:18:48: <mtve> the area of esoteric languages is quite good explored already. it's hard it invent something interesting.
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190 2004-12-26.txt:21:53:57: <lament> before trying to create something "new"
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191 2004-12-26.txt:21:55:27: <lament> then just try to come up with something that's like neither one of those :)
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192 2004-12-26.txt:22:44:51: <nooga> and then i will think about something more complicated
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193 2004-12-27.txt:18:47:14: <ZeroOne> ok ;) just google for "free homepage" or something.
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194 2004-12-27.txt:18:54:27: <ZeroOne> like www.keymakersbrainfuck.tk or keymakerbf.cjb.net or something like that
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195 2004-12-27.txt:18:59:32: <lindi-> but currently they have enough money to run it till 2015 or something even if nobody pays
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196 2004-12-27.txt:19:06:37: <lindi-> ZeroOne: it was just something along the lines of "whoops, i forgot to inform person X and service Y about my new address, can't cancel mikrobitti yet"
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197 2004-12-29.txt:19:32:49: <cpressey> i've been pondering ideas for how to get esolangs to talk to the outside world, which is something an eso OS would need.
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198 2005-01-16.txt:12:05:40: <Keymaker> is there something wrong in the following befunge-93 program? here:
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199 2005-01-17.txt:16:42:58: <Keymaker> hmmm, i'm hungry; better (try) to find something to eat :\
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200 2005-01-29.txt:20:45:57: <calamari> arke: I'm talking about something different :)
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201 2005-02-02.txt:20:42:21: <Keymaker> or something like that :p
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202 2005-02-08.txt:19:32:27: <Keymaker> better try doing something useful.. hmm..
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203 2005-02-10.txt:02:37:28: <lament> or something very similar
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204 2005-02-10.txt:05:05:45: <calamari> that's a good idea for a language.. just would need an interesting mapping of emoticons to getting something done
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205 2005-02-11.txt:21:58:57: <Keymaker> just thought about programming something with php
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206 2005-02-11.txt:21:59:45: <Keymaker> and realized that maybe i could start thinking about something :)
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207 2005-02-16.txt:17:50:00: <Keymaker> hmmm something's wrong in the code...
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208 2005-02-16.txt:17:53:21: <Keymaker> according to the interpreter something causes some overflow
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209 2005-02-18.txt:16:52:00: <Keymaker> hmm. but must go, once again. i try to do something that i probably can't do since i'm a loser.. bye.
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210 2005-02-18.txt:20:44:18: <kipple> I'll try to remember to test it with gcc next time I do something with it (if ever)
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211 2005-02-18.txt:22:33:26: <Keymaker> something tells me it's insane, and something else "send it already"
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212 2005-02-25.txt:00:50:34: <Rogue> i was thinking something more along the lines of MOUSE, or LOGO,
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213 2005-02-25.txt:00:51:43: <Rogue> you know, any language with sprite abilities can make something like that
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214 2005-02-27.txt:21:04:21: <Keymaker> yeah, this is for fun, although i should take it more seriously. anyways, in my humble opinion world doesn't need that much more programs that do something "useful", like convert cd burners, mp3 players, web design tools, etc.. and that's why it's better to use languages that are a bit more limited and offer enjoyment, and make programs that do interesting stuff, like printing Hello World!, calculate pi, do cellular automaton, print their own source.. :)
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215 2005-03-01.txt:10:51:54: <Keymaker> arke: what's wrong with brainfuck? doing something program or..?
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216 2005-03-04.txt:00:26:09: <{^Raven^}> thus, you want to check for eof so you do something like [-].+++++.,
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217 2005-03-04.txt:00:27:08: <Keymaker> something like that would be good
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218 2005-03-04.txt:00:28:14: <cpressey> {^Raven^}: jeffry was working on something like this.
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219 2005-03-05.txt:13:38:46: <Keymaker> hmmm, or was 1000kb something like megabyte? my brain is ****ed
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220 2005-03-05.txt:13:53:52: <{^Raven^}> i'd like to see a for-profit BrainFuck company ;) that would be something
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221 2005-03-05.txt:20:08:13: <Keymaker> by the way; does anyone know a good mp3 player for linux? like something that's like winamp in windows, like something popular?
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222 2005-03-05.txt:20:28:08: <Keymaker> is it just me or is many brainfuck "tutorial" on the net just actually there to try to make its author look "1337 h4x0r" because he can print his alias in this language? :) as well, it seems that many just covers basic things like ++++[>+++++<-] and says "have fun programming!" or limits to only badly made code of brainfuck program that prints out something..? :)
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223 2005-03-05.txt:20:34:40: <Keymaker> but i hope someday i can get something really awesome done.. ah..
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224 2005-03-05.txt:20:44:30: <cpressey> and yeah, a _real_ tutorial would be nice. something that demonstrates that it really is just as computationally powerful as java, or whatever is on most coder's minds these days.
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225 2005-03-05.txt:20:50:26: <Keymaker> there should be tutorial to cover more of the cool stuff in brainfuck instead of telling that one can't create something in it (it's just those "tutorial" writers' skills that suck, not the language!)
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226 2005-03-05.txt:22:01:20: <{^Raven^}> maybe someone with the coding ability could create something similiar for BF
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227 2005-03-05.txt:22:17:38: <Keymaker> i sense something like that
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228 2005-03-05.txt:22:59:11: <{^Raven^}> and I want to make something that can be applied to every esoteric language, including malbolge - but i'll not be writing the demonstration code for that one
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229 2005-03-05.txt:23:17:30: <cpressey> but, until i write something up, my taste is a moot point :)
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230 2005-03-05.txt:23:17:35: <cpressey> i'll write something up.
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231 2005-03-06.txt:01:27:36: <calamari> lament: you're right.. I only get the bf urge every once in a while.. but when I do, usually something fun comes of it
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232 2005-03-06.txt:01:55:39: <cpressey> ok, i wrote something up.
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233 2005-03-06.txt:03:30:24: <{^Raven^}> this looks like the start of something interesting
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234 2005-03-06.txt:07:54:41: <cpressey> i've implemented something too
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235 2005-03-06.txt:08:41:16: <cpressey> although in any case the input routine turns into "do i have something to return? if so return it. if not then do real input"
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236 2005-03-06.txt:08:58:02: <cpressey> calamari: it's not that i want to argue, it's just that there are pros and cons to each approach. i'll consider both sides and write something up, maybe we can get a better idea about it. in the very worst case, pesoix can support both... somehow :)
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237 2005-03-06.txt:23:59:17: <lindi-> BIOS services, DOS services, something else?
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238 2005-03-07.txt:17:28:18: <Keymaker> or does something not so good..
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239 2005-03-11.txt:04:04:54: <{^Raven^}> no, fork is not something i have played with
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240 2005-03-15.txt:15:59:54: <calamari> that way you can have something that will work for your game
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241 2005-03-16.txt:03:55:45: <calamari> maybe just worked on 1.40 because the array got moved or something
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242 2005-03-17.txt:00:52:20: <calamari> arke: I did something similar in a previous contest.. first I wrote it in basic, using functions.. then I removed the functions and used gosub, then I removed the gosubs, just using if/goto/stack. then I saw that someone had it to something like 37 bf instructions, and I gave up :)
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243 2005-03-17.txt:04:22:15: <calamari> I think I just figured it out.. was on to something with the diagonals. If the sums are displayed on a grid:
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244 2005-03-17.txt:04:28:44: <calamari> anyhow, what I'm getting at is that the "formula" goes something like:
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245 2005-03-17.txt:19:33:23: <Keymaker> hey.. iirc was there something that had only three instructions or something? the name sounded like something OISC or something.. can't remember, read in wikipedia..
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246 2005-03-17.txt:19:43:21: <Keymaker> it complains something to me
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247 2005-03-17.txt:20:58:25: <calamari> one thing to know about cvs is that once something is put on, it can be removed, but it will still be there, in a deleted fashion
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248 2005-03-17.txt:20:59:04: <calamari> to add something to the repository, you first tell it cvs add (filename)
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249 2005-03-17.txt:21:00:54: <calamari> it will ask for a log file entry.. put something like "initial version"
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250 2005-03-17.txt:23:30:07: <calamari> bah, something is wrong with it
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251 2005-03-18.txt:19:28:33: <calamari> hmm, may have something
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252 2005-03-19.txt:22:46:41: <Keymaker> is there something wrong in implementation?
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253 2005-03-20.txt:05:36:26: <calamari> do you have irc wake you up or something?
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254 2005-03-20.txt:06:36:42: <calamari> c can't be completely interpreted by bf without something like pesoix
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255 2005-03-24.txt:23:02:37: <Keymaker> but at least you can say you can program something in brainfuck if you can do this ;)
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256 2005-03-28.txt:09:23:18: <Keymaker> as well, has the code something to do with roman numbers? (just thought about the file name roman5.bf and those I, V, X.. stuff there)
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257 2005-03-30.txt:14:10:12: <matricks> Tefad: something like that
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258 2005-03-31.txt:16:40:02: <Keymaker> it can be this mandrake 10.0 has crap software or then something's wrong, but can't get a file that is about on mb opened..
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259 2005-03-31.txt:16:42:31: <Keymaker> something really strange is happening.
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260 2005-04-01.txt:10:51:15: <Keymaker> "The user asked Petrovich to do something with a soft porn file, and Petrovich responded by deleting the file. The user did not want this to happen, so punishes Petrovich." :p
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261 2005-04-05.txt:15:41:43: <kipple> but I'll probably call it bloated kipple or something :)
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262 2005-04-05.txt:15:55:18: <Keymaker> by the way, could the web applet perhaps have some counter for every loop, that if something loop is executed, let's say more than 2000000 times it would quit and assume the program got stuck in infinite loop?
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263 2005-04-05.txt:15:57:17: <kipple> kipple is something I work on when I get inspiration. and inspiration is closely related to feedback :)
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264 2005-04-05.txt:15:57:45: <kipple> so something will probably happen soon :)
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265 2005-04-06.txt:10:38:48: <graue> i'm going to do something really cool now :)
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266 2005-04-09.txt:05:31:43: <graue> i remember, while skimming the list archives, seeing something about one
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267 2005-04-14.txt:21:22:05: <Keymaker> i try to contribute something sometime
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268 2005-04-14.txt:22:27:30: <kipple> it shouldn't be a problem having a C program read from an infinite tape stream, just like a turing machine. Or am I missing something here??
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269 2005-04-14.txt:22:31:32: <fizzie> Input, yes, but a Turing machine needs a seekable and rewritable "something" for the tape.
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270 2005-04-15.txt:20:00:54: <Keymaker> grrrrrrrr although seems there still is some bug.. there's something wrong with memory movement although it now loads the numbers correctly
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271 2005-04-24.txt:02:49:42: <dilbert42> anyone here knows something about a dinosaur named 'stenonychosaure' ????
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272 2005-04-28.txt:17:32:51: <Keymaker> but is there something different with befunge?
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273 2005-04-28.txt:19:52:56: <Keymaker> probably should read something Turing Machines for Dummies
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274 2005-04-28.txt:19:52:59: <Keymaker> or something
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275 2005-04-28.txt:20:30:22: <Keymaker> or something
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276 2005-05-01.txt:16:30:28: <pgimeno> btw, formauri.es is back online; it was probably on mainteinance or something
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277 2005-05-04.txt:05:33:26: <GregorR> Hmmmmmm, just noticed something that may be a bug...
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278 2005-05-04.txt:05:34:52: <GregorR> Then there's probably something snarky about your once-through thread.
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279 2005-05-04.txt:19:39:11: <GregorR-L> And that's something.
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280 2005-05-04.txt:19:53:17: <pgimeno> does anyone know something about BLANK? is it 2D?
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281 2005-05-04.txt:20:17:37: <Keymaker> that probably means someone has managed to make some loop stuff or something?
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282 2005-05-04.txt:21:19:48: <pgimeno> a state machine, something like a Turing machine but unidirectional (someone correct me if I'm wrong)
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283 2005-05-04.txt:21:30:28: <Keymaker> now.. make an interpreter, i wanna code something!
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284 2005-05-05.txt:11:27:53: <fizzie> Ooh, a "step out of current loop" feature is something I've really been looking forward to. :)
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285 2005-05-05.txt:14:38:55: <fizzie> I'm trying to debug my regexp compiler by looking at the state machines it creates. For something simple like that 'a(a|b)*b|b(a|b)*a' example it works, but for this date-with-time-validating regular expression the generated state machine is.. not very visualizable. You can look at http://gehennom.org/~fis/re.png for an example, but it's a 8422x6504-sized png so looking at it can be a bit sluggish.
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286 2005-05-05.txt:15:46:27: <fizzie> ((0|1|2|_)(1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)|3(0|1)) should be something like ((0|1|2_)(1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)|(1|2)0|3(0|1))
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287 2005-05-05.txt:16:33:46: <pgimeno> something like http://www.formauri.es/personal/GregorR/<your page>
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288 2005-05-05.txt:19:15:14: <GregorR-L> Well, I could paste something in here...
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289 2005-05-06.txt:00:39:55: * kipple has learned something today
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290 2005-05-06.txt:08:23:12: <lament> 4000 or something, but nobody cares much
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291 2005-05-06.txt:15:42:26: <Keymaker> and yes, the dvd player here in linux complains something that "error reading NAV packet"
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292 2005-05-06.txt:15:44:09: <Keymaker> so i can't install any new program here probably, not to mention finding some stuff from web if i need to get something
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293 2005-05-06.txt:21:17:39: <pgimeno> oh well, I'm currently using PHP but I guess I could port it to something else
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294 2005-05-06.txt:21:39:45: <GregorR> pgimeno: I just figured out what you meant so many messages ago about "currently in PHP but I could port it to something else"
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295 2005-05-06.txt:21:40:56: <pgimeno> do you mean as a background or something?
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296 2005-05-06.txt:22:55:19: <GregorR> BTW, is the esolangs page going to have something like an editor's choice of languages?
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297 2005-05-06.txt:23:43:35: <KnX> it's just because i have always some difficulties to find names for my variables and structs , and for something a part of a fingerprint, i thought about a phalanxprint, but i think it won't help anybody to understand with a name like this ...
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298 2005-05-07.txt:00:14:25: <pgimeno> rather than "Yo estoy bueno" it'd be "Estoy bien" ("Yo estoy bueno" is something like "I look awesome" in local slang)
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299 2005-05-07.txt:00:16:46: <KnX> remember me something ...
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300 2005-05-07.txt:00:17:22: <KnX> saying "estas bueno" or something like this to say it was ok
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