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1 2008-03-09.txt:00:47:11: <ehird> http://impomatic.blogspot.com/
2 2008-03-17.txt:20:31:07: <ehird_> AnMaster: http://impomatic.blogspot.com/
3 2009-01-21.txt:16:50:30: -!- impomatic has joined #esoteric.
4 2009-01-21.txt:16:51:50: <impomatic> I've just implemented RSSB in Redcode and I'm looking for a new project
5 2009-01-21.txt:17:01:05: <impomatic> Any suggestions. I'd prefer stack or cell based, minimal instruction set and relative addressing!
6 2009-01-21.txt:17:06:46: <impomatic> Someone already did bf in redcode
7 2009-01-21.txt:17:08:39: <impomatic> I want one of these for esoteric programming langs http://www.levenez.com/lang/lang.pdf :-)
8 2009-01-21.txt:17:11:10: <impomatic> The interpreter will be written in Redcode
9 2009-01-21.txt:17:49:11: <MizardX> impomatic: Pick and choose -> http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Language_list
10 2009-01-21.txt:17:51:00: <impomatic> Too many to choose from!
11 2009-01-21.txt:17:52:37: <ais523> hmm... so who's impomatic, then?
12 2009-01-21.txt:17:52:44: <oerjan> impomatic: there's also the random page button
13 2009-01-21.txt:17:53:09: <impomatic> For now I've looked through the Hello World implementations for a language I like the look of
14 2009-01-21.txt:17:54:09: <impomatic> ais523: new here. I'm a redcode programmer
15 2009-01-21.txt:17:56:15: <oerjan> impomatic: if you're interested in redcode might i suggest FuckYourBrane (iirc)?
16 2009-01-21.txt:18:00:13: <impomatic> oerjan: thanks, I'll take a look shortly
17 2009-01-21.txt:18:29:00: -!- impomatic has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)).
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19 2009-01-24.txt:22:03:45: <impomatic> Does anyone know what the smallest Brainfuck hello world is?
20 2009-01-24.txt:22:03:52: <ehird> impomatic: yes, iirc egobot generated it
21 2009-01-24.txt:22:04:26: <impomatic> The one on the wiki is 143
22 2009-01-24.txt:22:04:53: <ehird> impomatic: I could try and grep the logs for egobot's I think it was 113 or sth
23 2009-01-24.txt:22:05:38: <impomatic> Ehird: thanks, that would be a big help. Google didn't show up much
24 2009-01-24.txt:22:05:54: <impomatic> Is 113 the best? Was that generated by a GA or something?
25 2009-01-24.txt:22:06:59: <ehird> impomatic:
26 2009-01-24.txt:22:07:32: <impomatic> Thanks :-)
27 2009-01-24.txt:22:32:25: <impomatic> My first attempt to write a brainfuck hello world by hand - 122 instructions :-(
28 2009-01-24.txt:23:19:03: <impomatic> New brainfuck Hello World = 115. That's 3 instructions shorter
29 2009-01-24.txt:23:19:45: <ehird> but impomatic's beaten that
30 2009-01-24.txt:23:21:01: <impomatic> I was hoping to reach 88 so my interpretter and Hello World fit in 100 instructions, but I don't think there's any chance
31 2009-01-24.txt:23:21:10: <impomatic> +++++++++++[>+++++++>+++++++++>++++>+++>++++++++<<<<<-]>-----.>++.+++++++..+++.>.>-.>-.<<<.+++.------.--------.>>+.
32 2009-01-24.txt:23:21:16: <ehird> impomatic: you have a 22 char bf interp?
33 2009-01-24.txt:23:21:40: <impomatic> No, 12 instruction interpretter :-)
34 2009-01-24.txt:23:22:26: <ehird> impomatic: show this interp! :)
35 2009-01-24.txt:23:22:55: <impomatic> And it's not slow. When it starts execution, it converts all [ and ] to relative jumps
36 2009-01-24.txt:23:23:17: <oklopol> impomatic: can you show it?
37 2009-01-24.txt:23:23:24: <impomatic> The interpretter is more of a compiler, and it's in redcode
38 2009-01-24.txt:23:24:33: <impomatic> Okay, wait!
39 2009-01-24.txt:23:26:25: <impomatic> Not so impressive: http://pastebin.ca/1317388
40 2009-01-24.txt:23:27:01: <impomatic> When the redcode is compiled, it uses macros to compile brainfuck to redcode
41 2009-01-24.txt:23:27:29: <impomatic> There are 12 instructions to fix the [ and ] jump addresses
42 2009-01-24.txt:23:27:49: <impomatic> Macros at the top
43 2009-01-24.txt:23:28:22: <impomatic> Thanks
44 2009-01-24.txt:23:28:24: <ehird> impomatic: how much would it take to add a parser?
45 2009-01-24.txt:23:29:22: <impomatic> Not much, but first I need to recompile the redcode interpretter. Haven't got a C compiler on this Windoze machine
46 2009-01-24.txt:23:30:16: <impomatic> I will add a parser to read in Brainfuck from a file.
47 2009-01-24.txt:23:30:16: <impomatic> And possibly add a table based optimizer
48 2009-01-24.txt:23:30:32: <impomatic> Often 2 brainfuck instructions could be reduced to 1 redcode instruction
49 2009-01-24.txt:23:40:03: <impomatic> The Hello World from Wikipedia outputs a different string. No comma, but a newline
50 2009-01-25.txt:00:04:17: <impomatic> RSSB is less complex. One instruction and only one operand
51 2009-01-25.txt:00:04:24: <ehird> impomatic: link?
52 2009-01-25.txt:00:06:20: <impomatic> See the RSSB page I made the other day http://esolangs.org/wiki/RSSB
53 2009-01-25.txt:00:07:19: <ehird> impomatic: can't IP/ACC be in memory?
54 2009-01-25.txt:00:08:48: <ehird> impomatic: ?
55 2009-01-25.txt:00:09:09: <impomatic> ehird: I'm not sure why the spec said both
56 2009-01-25.txt:00:09:47: <ehird> impomatic: define below 0
57 2009-01-25.txt:00:10:13: <impomatic> below 0: if the subtraction causes a borrow
58 2009-01-25.txt:00:10:47: <impomatic> There's a redcode implementation at http://impomatic.blogspot.com
59 2009-01-25.txt:00:10:51: <ehird> impomatic: i don't follow
60 2009-01-25.txt:00:11:14: <impomatic> Yes
61 2009-01-25.txt:00:11:46: <impomatic> Basically if prior to the subtraction, acc > contents of memory location, skip the next instruction
62 2009-01-25.txt:00:12:36: <ehird> impomatic: so is there a reason it has to be stored in both?
63 2009-01-25.txt:00:12:59: <impomatic> There is an implementation of RSSB by David Tanguay, but I can't find a copy online
64 2009-01-25.txt:00:13:11: <ehird> impomatic: ?
65 2009-01-25.txt:00:13:23: <impomatic> ehird: I just implemented as per David Tanguay's spec
66 2009-01-25.txt:00:15:23: <impomatic> ehird: if it only stores in acc, there's no way to modify memory. if it only stores in memory, then the only thing you can do with acc is set it to zero
67 2009-01-25.txt:00:16:47: <ehird> impomatic:
68 2009-01-25.txt:00:23:27: <ehird> impomatic: how do you jump backwards with rssb?
69 2009-01-25.txt:00:25:16: <ehird> impomatic: how do you jump backwards with rssb?
70 2009-01-25.txt:00:25:32: <impomatic> ehird: subtract something from ip
71 2009-01-25.txt:00:27:16: <impomatic> Jump requires 4 lines of RSSB:
72 2009-01-25.txt:00:27:16: <impomatic> rssb acc ; set acc to 0
73 2009-01-25.txt:00:27:17: <impomatic> rssb $+2 ; set acc to loop offset
74 2009-01-25.txt:00:27:17: <impomatic> rssb ip ; subtract acc from ip
75 2009-01-25.txt:00:27:17: <impomatic> rssb $-loop ; the loop offset
76 2009-01-25.txt:00:30:36: <impomatic> Is there a brainfuck variant which adds a stack?
77 2009-01-25.txt:00:32:00: <ehird> impomatic: any thoughts?
78 2009-01-25.txt:00:33:07: <impomatic> Back tomorrow :-)
79 2009-01-25.txt:00:33:11: -!- impomatic has quit ("mov.i #1,1").
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81 2009-01-25.txt:13:49:05: <impomatic> 112 Hello, World! ++++++++++++++[>+++++>+++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+++.+++++++..+++.>++.>[<-<<+>>>-]<++.<<+.>.+++.------.--------.>+.
82 2009-01-25.txt:14:00:42: <ehird> <impomatic> 112 Hello, World! ++++++++++++++[>+++++>+++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+++.+++++++..+++.>++.>[<-<<+>>>-]<++.<<+.>.+++.------.--------.>+.
83 2009-01-25.txt:14:02:44: <impomatic> Hi Ehird. 1 instruction longer than Wikipedia, but it includes the comma.
84 2009-01-25.txt:14:03:00: <impomatic> No
85 2009-01-25.txt:14:03:28: <impomatic> Some of the other examples didn't have newline
86 2009-01-25.txt:14:41:06: <impomatic> Lol at censoring brainfuck to b****fuck :-)
87 2009-01-25.txt:14:48:57: <impomatic> Anyone want to implement Redcode++? http://corewar.co.uk/opcodes.htm
88 2009-01-25.txt:15:14:58: -!- impomatic has quit ("http://impomatic.blogspot.com").
89 2009-01-25.txt:16:38:12: -!- Metcalf is now known as impomatic.
90 2009-01-25.txt:17:01:06: <impomatic> Does anyone know what the smallest bf quine is?
91 2009-01-25.txt:17:01:37: <ais523> impomatic: the null string
92 2009-01-25.txt:17:06:15: <impomatic> Thanks :-)
93 2009-01-25.txt:17:33:06: <impomatic> Revised bf interpreter in Redcode http://impomatic.blogspot.com/2009/01/brainf-interpreter-in-redcode.html
94 2009-01-25.txt:17:34:50: <ais523> impomatic: probably not very useful for actual CoreWars games, but it's always nice to have esolang-in-esolang implementations
95 2009-01-25.txt:17:37:42: <impomatic> I'd have to check, I think there's a problem with the Redcode interpreter. When it reaches EOF, I think it continues to wait for a character.
96 2009-01-25.txt:21:36:02: -!- impomatic has quit ("http://impomatic.blogspot.com").
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98 2009-01-26.txt:17:13:26: <impomatic> ^bf ++++++++++++++[>>+>++>+++>++>+++<<[++++<]<-]>>>>>[+++<]>-.>>.+++++++..+++.>>++.<+.<<.>.+++.------.--------.>+.
99 2009-01-26.txt:17:13:38: <impomatic> 106 :-)
100 2009-01-26.txt:17:16:50: <ehird> impomatic: i think that's longer than it could be
101 2009-01-26.txt:17:18:30: <impomatic> Hi Ehird
102 2009-01-26.txt:17:21:47: <impomatic> It's 12 bit, I wrote code to read files from it about 15 years ago
103 2009-01-26.txt:17:22:06: <impomatic> But I wouldn't be much help. I only read it, never tried to manipulate it
104 2009-01-26.txt:19:55:21: <impomatic> ^bf +++++[>+++[>>+>++>+++>+++>++>+++<<[++++<]<-]<-]>>>---.>>----.>+++..+++.>>-.<++.<<<---.>>.+++.------.<-.>>+.
105 2009-01-26.txt:19:57:01: <impomatic> Yeah, shame it's 107 instructions and not <106
106 2009-01-26.txt:19:57:16: <impomatic> oklopol: go ahead :-)
107 2009-01-26.txt:19:57:42: <impomatic> ehird: okay, show me how :-P
108 2009-01-26.txt:19:59:45: <impomatic> I've seen "Hello, World!", "Hello World!
109 " and "Hello, world!"
110 2009-01-26.txt:20:00:16: <impomatic> I'm working on "Hello, World!" because that's the example someone showed me
111 2009-01-26.txt:20:01:28: <impomatic> HI Psygnisfive_
112 2009-01-26.txt:20:02:33: <psygnisfive_> impomatic, you new, ey?
113 2009-01-26.txt:20:38:17: <impomatic> psygnisfive_: new here, not new to esoteric languages :-)
114 2009-01-26.txt:20:44:56: <impomatic> I started playing with esolangs in 1993.
115 2009-01-26.txt:20:44:56: <impomatic> Unless Redcode counts :-)
116 2009-01-26.txt:20:45:04: <ehird> redcode counts, impomatic
117 2009-01-26.txt:20:48:39: <impomatic> 1991 if Redcode counts
118 2009-01-26.txt:20:49:25: <impomatic> My modem is apparently not connected?
119 2009-01-26.txt:20:49:30: <impomatic> Trying to connect now
120 2009-01-26.txt:20:49:31: <ehird> impomatic: i hear you
121 2009-01-26.txt:20:50:34: <impomatic> oklopol: You're making me feel old!
122 2009-01-26.txt:20:51:21: <impomatic> :-/
123 2009-01-26.txt:21:12:18: <impomatic> Anyone here got a programming blog?
124 2009-01-26.txt:21:16:31: <impomatic> Judofyr: where? :-)
125 2009-01-26.txt:21:22:52: <Judofyr> impomatic: http://judofyr.net
126 2009-01-26.txt:22:02:33: -!- impomatic has quit ("http://impomatic.blogspot.com").
127 2009-01-27.txt:17:55:58: -!- Metcalf is now known as impomatic.
128 2009-01-27.txt:18:17:41: <impomatic> Is there a term for mainstream languages that are rarely used / hear of? E.g. Oberon
129 2009-01-27.txt:18:27:43: <MizardX> impomatic: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080118233717AASGNps
130 2009-01-27.txt:18:28:27: <impomatic> Hi ehird, and thanks MizardX
131 2009-01-27.txt:18:28:54: <ehird> impomatic: I saw a reddit submission of yours earlier today :-)
132 2009-01-27.txt:18:30:59: <ehird> impomatic: what's a reverse call? I'm not sure I understand
133 2009-01-27.txt:18:31:59: <impomatic> I use impomatic in most places, twitter, stumbleupon, delicious, blogger, reddit
134 2009-01-27.txt:18:33:20: <impomatic> Each redcode opcode has two operands (though sometimes they're omited)
135 2009-01-27.txt:18:33:20: <impomatic> equ defines a macro
136 2009-01-27.txt:18:34:01: <impomatic> so: call equ mov #2-return, <stack ; defines call to be a mov #2-return, <stack
137 2009-01-27.txt:18:34:03: <impomatic> :-)
138 2009-01-27.txt:18:40:41: <impomatic> There are a couple of solutions to that problem on my blog, but they're both a bit messy
139 2009-01-27.txt:18:40:41: <impomatic> There's a redcode specific IRC channel, #corewars on irc.koth.org
140 2009-01-27.txt:18:40:41: <impomatic> If the subroutine is above the call in the source listing, the calculated addresses are incorrect
141 2009-01-27.txt:18:40:41: <impomatic> Due to wierd behaviour in the macro pre-processor
142 2009-01-27.txt:20:54:49: <impomatic> ^bf ++++[>++++<-]>+[>>++>+>+>++<[+++++<]<-]>>>++.>-.-<++++..+++.>>--.+<<<.----->.---<[.>]
143 2009-01-27.txt:21:41:03: <ehird> impomatic: no output?
144 2009-01-27.txt:21:48:32: <impomatic> No, is the bot broken?
145 2009-01-27.txt:21:48:54: <ehird> impomatic: er, three is no bot
146 2009-01-27.txt:21:50:29: <impomatic> notepad k
147 2009-01-27.txt:21:50:39: <impomatic> Wrong window!
148 2009-01-27.txt:21:59:29: * impomatic has an 8 cpu mini-computer :-P
149 2009-01-27.txt:21:59:45: <ehird> impomatic: heh
150 2009-01-27.txt:21:59:50: <AnMaster> impomatic, hm? What sort?
151 2009-01-27.txt:22:00:12: <impomatic> Unfortunately it's from something like 1990, so not very impressive.
152 2009-01-27.txt:22:01:01: <impomatic> AnMaster: 19" MVME boards, with a "Cray" logo on the front
153 2009-01-27.txt:22:01:08: <AnMaster> impomatic, CRAY!!!!!!!!
154 2009-01-27.txt:22:01:16: <AnMaster> impomatic, picture?
155 2009-01-27.txt:22:01:24: <AnMaster> impomatic, also what is 19" in metric?
156 2009-01-27.txt:22:02:16: <ehird> impomatic: does it run an infinite loop in 6 seconds?
157 2009-01-27.txt:22:04:17: <impomatic> About 47cm, haven't got a photo - looks like a washing machine without the door. Never tried the infinite loop!
158 2009-01-27.txt:22:04:54: <impomatic> Is lovecraft a esolang? That'd be cool :-)
159 2009-01-27.txt:22:09:45: <impomatic> I've got one in 84 now!
160 2009-01-27.txt:22:13:00: <AnMaster> impomatic, oh?
161 2009-01-27.txt:22:15:01: <impomatic> ^bf ++++[>++++<-]>+[>>++>+>+>++<[+++++<]<-]>>>++.>-.<++++..+++.>>--.++<<<.---->.--<[-.>]
162 2009-01-27.txt:22:19:42: <impomatic> We're also talking about bf in #corewars on irc.koth.org
163 2009-01-27.txt:22:21:43: * ehird tries to work out impomatic's name in #corewars
164 2009-01-27.txt:22:22:32: <olsner> it couldn't be just "impomatic"?
165 2009-01-27.txt:22:22:46: <ehird> there is no impomatic in there.
166 2009-01-27.txt:22:23:07: <impomatic> OoS
167 2009-01-27.txt:22:23:47: <impomatic> It's OoS. I already mentioned #esoteric
168 2009-01-27.txt:22:26:29: <impomatic> ehird: it was busy before you arrived http://www.koth.org/irc-logs/2009-01-27.txt
169 2009-01-27.txt:22:26:50: <impomatic> We're a bit shy around strangers ;-)
170 2009-01-27.txt:22:27:43: <ehird> impomatic: if you can get BF hello world in a standard 80-char line I'll be amazed
171 2009-01-27.txt:22:29:18: <impomatic> ehird: I don't think I can knock off the last 4 instructions
172 2009-01-27.txt:22:29:24: <ehird> impomatic: aw
173 2009-01-27.txt:22:37:24: <ehird> impomatic's beaten it by far.
174 2009-01-27.txt:22:43:57: <impomatic> Hmmm... sounds a long time
175 2009-01-27.txt:22:44:11: <impomatic> It requires 12 . only two of which are next to each other
176 2009-01-27.txt:22:44:47: <impomatic> If the 1st . doesn't output a 'h' it can terminate
177 2009-01-27.txt:22:44:47: <impomatic> Forget that, . could be in a loop :-/
178 2009-01-27.txt:22:48:53: <impomatic> ghostview?
179 2009-01-27.txt:23:03:33: <AnMaster> impomatic, yep
180 2009-01-27.txt:23:04:45: <impomatic> Does anarchy golf use 0 for EOF?
181 2009-01-27.txt:23:05:48: <ehird> impomatic: yes
182 2009-01-27.txt:23:09:46: <MizardX> impomatic: Heh. Right after your program has printed out "hell" in "hello world!", exactly 666 operations has been executed. :P
183 2009-01-27.txt:23:11:02: <impomatic> Nice, I wish I'd planned that!
184 2009-01-27.txt:23:11:18: <impomatic> Is that the 84 instruction version?
185 2009-01-28.txt:00:00:14: <impomatic> When does the fungot bf interpreter terminate? E.g. if I put it in an infinite loop printing something?
186 2009-01-28.txt:00:00:15: <fungot> impomatic: you could ask him to move two seats from mine. it's just werid that it never returned in the first place
187 2009-01-28.txt:00:00:40: <oerjan> impomatic: iirc it's pretty robust
188 2009-01-28.txt:00:00:44: <oklopol> impomatic: after $lot instructions?
189 2009-01-28.txt:00:01:18: <ehird> impomatic: fungot is written in befunge
190 2009-01-28.txt:00:01:21: <oerjan> impomatic: well i think it also stops after a number of characters
191 2009-01-28.txt:00:01:28: <ehird> impomatic: http://zem.fi/~fis/fungot.b98.txt
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194 2009-01-28.txt:09:51:44: <impomatic> Finally I'm in first place on something :-) http://golf.shinh.org/p.rb?google#Brainfuck
195 2009-01-28.txt:09:52:03: <ais523> impomatic: ah, I remember anagold
196 2009-01-28.txt:15:12:15: <oklopol> ais523: impomatic: ah, I remember anagold <<< lul i did the same typo
197 2009-01-28.txt:15:15:18: <impomatic> I think I'm going to implement Underload
198 2009-01-29.txt:13:14:11: <impomatic> Corewar will be 25 years old later this year :-)
199 2009-01-29.txt:20:11:43: <impomatic> Hmmm...
200 2009-01-29.txt:20:13:09: <impomatic> Borland C++ Builder 5.0's license doesn't allow the user freedom of use for compiled files :-(
201 2009-01-29.txt:20:15:18: <bsmntbombdood> impomatic: use a real compiler?
202 2009-01-29.txt:20:52:45: <impomatic> Okay, I give up with C++ Builder. Is GCC a big download?
203 2009-01-29.txt:20:53:21: <impomatic> Binary
204 2009-01-29.txt:20:54:53: <impomatic> I only want to compile one thing, then I'll probably never use it again
205 2009-01-29.txt:20:54:53: <impomatic> I don't like C
206 2009-01-29.txt:20:54:53: <impomatic> Yes
207 2009-01-29.txt:20:57:02: <Deewiant> impomatic: but VC++ might be easier to get working
208 2009-01-29.txt:20:57:45: <impomatic> Thanks, I'll download next month :-)
209 2009-01-29.txt:20:57:45: <impomatic> My bandwidth limit is close!
210 2009-01-29.txt:22:25:05: <impomatic> Hi yoR :-)
211 2009-01-29.txt:22:41:19: <impomatic> I made another bf interpreter last night in 8086 asm
212 2009-01-29.txt:22:44:48: <impomatic> No, not enough time!
213 2009-01-29.txt:23:56:53: <impomatic> I'm 34, so I guess I'm with the few really old people!
214 2009-01-30.txt:00:04:42: <impomatic> ^bf +++++++[>+++++++<-]>++.+.
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217 2009-01-30.txt:18:59:50: <impomatic> I've created a new page for Redcode on the Esoteric Languages Wiki, http://tr.im/dpty
218 2009-01-30.txt:19:06:13: <impomatic> No :-(
219 2009-01-30.txt:19:06:43: <impomatic> It was on the language list, but no page. I've added some basics to begin with
220 2009-01-30.txt:19:06:48: <lament> impomatic: you play corewars?
221 2009-01-30.txt:19:07:23: <impomatic> Yes, and also do some programming in redcode
222 2009-01-30.txt:19:08:19: <lament> impomatic: is it fun? Has the state-of-the-art progressed since the 80s?
223 2009-01-30.txt:19:08:35: <impomatic> About that :-)
224 2009-01-30.txt:19:09:37: <impomatic> It's fun, but slow at the moment. There's a history at http://corewar.co.uk/history.htm which give brief details of what's happened each year
225 2009-01-30.txt:19:10:39: <impomatic> Basically, there's been a new standard, there's now various online tournaments with instantaneous results, and new techniques keep getting invented.
226 2009-01-30.txt:19:11:49: <impomatic> There are several irregular newsletters too, http://corewar.co.uk/journals.htm
227 2009-01-30.txt:19:33:27: <Deewiant> impomatic: a new standard? When was that?
228 2009-01-30.txt:20:16:06: <impomatic> Deewiant cw standards = 1986, 1988 and 1994
229 2009-01-30.txt:20:19:43: <Deewiant> impomatic: yep, I was hoping for something after 94 :-)
230 2009-01-30.txt:20:20:41: <impomatic> No need for a new standard
231 2009-01-30.txt:20:20:46: <impomatic> Although opcodes for character input / output have been added
232 2009-01-30.txt:22:24:22: <impomatic> Has anyone got any really old corewar stuff? I'm building a big online archive
233 2009-01-30.txt:22:25:06: <impomatic> Unfortunately there's lots of stuff that used to be online, but has now disappeared.
234 2009-01-30.txt:22:25:29: <impomatic> The same seems to go for some other Esolang stuff :-(
235 2009-01-30.txt:22:26:56: <Deewiant> impomatic: I might, somewhere, but I think it's all from corewar.co.uk anyway
236 2009-01-30.txt:22:26:58: <impomatic> Thanks, looking
237 2009-01-30.txt:22:27:05: <ehird> Deewiant: isn't that impomatic's site? :P
238 2009-01-30.txt:22:27:21: <impomatic> Deewiant, I should have all of the corewar.co.uk stuff! :-)
239 2009-01-30.txt:22:27:31: <Deewiant> impomatic: :-)
240 2009-01-30.txt:22:30:34: <impomatic> The Minus webpages have disappeared, hopefully I'll find them in the archive
241 2009-01-30.txt:22:30:49: <impomatic> There was something else too which I noticed had gone. Not ever in the internet archive :-(
242 2009-01-30.txt:22:46:25: <impomatic> Anyone heard of TWINC, TWo INstruction Computer? :-)
243 2009-01-30.txt:23:08:02: * impomatic checks he's still in #esolang
244 2009-01-30.txt:23:08:52: <oerjan> impomatic: everything is on topic here except esolangs. the # is logical negation.
245 2009-01-30.txt:23:09:23: <impomatic> Hmmm... let me try something :-(
246 2009-01-30.txt:23:09:29: <impomatic> ehird: am I here now?
247 2009-01-30.txt:23:11:39: <impomatic> While we're talking comics, http://corewar.co.uk/cwcomics.txt
248 2009-01-30.txt:23:14:06: <oklopol> so, impomatic, i hate you; and now let me elaborate on that, it's less insulting than you think.
249 2009-01-30.txt:23:15:19: <impomatic> Yay :-)
250 2009-01-30.txt:23:15:34: <impomatic> I think they're both going to be around a while, no hurry
251 2009-01-30.txt:23:16:04: <impomatic> If they'd add redcode to code golfing, you could kill two birds with one stone
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254 2009-01-31.txt:13:56:11: <impomatic> Has befunge.org moved, or just disappeared?
255 2009-01-31.txt:13:57:53: <impomatic> Sorry :-/
256 2009-01-31.txt:15:40:57: <impomatic> Hi X-Scale :-)
257 2009-01-31.txt:15:42:26: <impomatic> X-Scale: I think I've seen you in #corewars ;-)
258 2009-01-31.txt:16:06:03: <X-Scale> Hello there, impomatic & ehird :)
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261 2009-02-01.txt:11:32:17: <impomatic> Why are <> and [] reserved in Underload?
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263 2009-02-01.txt:13:54:42: <ehird> <impomatic> Why are <> and [] reserved in Underload?
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265 2009-02-04.txt:10:07:32: <impomatic> I've implemented an interpreter for Underload in Redcode, http://tr.im/eil7
266 2009-02-04.txt:11:22:27: <whoppix> impomatic, what would be the default policy for an underload interpreter if the execution pointer encounters any letter that is not valid underload?
267 2009-02-04.txt:12:07:53: <impomatic> whoppix: fizzie: the program terminates when it reaches the invalid input
268 2009-02-04.txt:12:08:34: <impomatic> And it expects the program to be valid. It will do a swap on an empty stack
269 2009-02-04.txt:12:09:05: <impomatic> (comment)!
270 2009-02-04.txt:12:10:20: <impomatic> I'm looking for another language to implement
271 2009-02-04.txt:12:10:30: <impomatic> Maybe Aura
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274 2009-02-04.txt:17:56:00: <impomatic> Hmmm... there's probably more Haskell on reddit than any other language!
275 2009-02-04.txt:17:57:10: <ehird> impomatic: Indeed, it's quite popular over there. Was even more so in 2007 - early 2008 before the enterprisey folks arrived.
276 2009-02-04.txt:18:07:36: <impomatic> AnMaster: about 2 inches of snow, I live half way up
277 2009-02-04.txt:18:08:08: <AnMaster> impomatic, 2 inches in SI units?
278 2009-02-04.txt:18:09:01: <AnMaster> impomatic, well that isn't very much
279 2009-02-04.txt:18:11:04: <impomatic> It doesn't need much to bring the U.K. to a standstill :-)
280 2009-02-04.txt:18:12:50: <impomatic> The news reports have been talking about the big freeze and arctic conditions. In reality it's just been a few cm of snow and -2C overnight
281 2009-02-04.txt:18:16:03: <AnMaster> impomatic, -2C? Bah, that is warm
282 2009-02-04.txt:18:19:40: <impomatic> Hmmm... it's 25.4C indoors at the moment :-)
283 2009-02-04.txt:18:39:38: <impomatic> Since we're talking about osdev, how do I get two processes to agree on a channel to communicate by?
284 2009-02-04.txt:18:39:53: <AnMaster> impomatic, that is very vague
285 2009-02-04.txt:18:40:35: * AnMaster waits for a clarification of what impomatic meant. IPC? TCP? shared memory?
286 2009-02-04.txt:18:41:58: <impomatic> I can implement the IPC primatives easily. But how would program A and B that need to communicate with each other allocate a channel?
287 2009-02-04.txt:18:43:40: <AnMaster> impomatic, well, you could implement some sort of named pipe facility for example to allow different user space processes to open the same named pipe
288 2009-02-04.txt:18:44:01: <ehird> impomatic: do something like:
289 2009-02-04.txt:18:47:39: <impomatic> Hmmm...
290 2009-02-04.txt:18:48:10: <AnMaster> impomatic, take a look at the posix apis for shared memory and such maybe?
291 2009-02-04.txt:18:52:45: <impomatic> Okay, I'll google them
292 2009-02-04.txt:18:54:23: <AnMaster> impomatic, what "them"?
293 2009-02-04.txt:18:55:45: <impomatic> Posix apis
294 2009-02-04.txt:19:23:09: <impomatic> I have a simple OS - bootloader, kernel with memory management, scheduling, etc written in asm
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297 2009-02-04.txt:21:44:50: <impomatic> Has anyone got the spec for Hanoi Love?
298 2009-02-04.txt:21:45:27: <impomatic> The link on the wiki is broken, nothing in the web archive :-/
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