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<Bike> pastelog [Mm]ath[- _]?[Nn]erd

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+2008-08-22.txt:17:29:57: <AnMaster> hm he is certainly a math nerd it seems
+2010-04-15.txt:03:25:50: -!- Mathnerd314 has joined #esoteric.
+2010-04-15.txt:05:52:41: <Mathnerd314> hm, is http://www.frappr.com/esolang down?
+2010-04-15.txt:05:58:40: <Mathnerd314> ok
+2010-04-15.txt:05:59:11: <Mathnerd314> how esoteric does a language have to be to be discussable on #esoteric?
+2010-04-15.txt:06:00:03: <Mathnerd314> ok
+2010-04-15.txt:08:23:43: <oerjan> <Mathnerd314> how esoteric does a language have to be to be discussable on #esoteric?
+2010-04-15.txt:14:25:05: <Quadrescence> Mathnerd314: If it's as esoteric as Perl, then it's allowed.
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+2010-04-15.txt:21:07:04: <Mathnerd314> Sgeo|web: what does it do?
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+2010-04-16.txt:02:41:28: <Mathnerd314> hmm... channel is missing +t
+2010-04-16.txt:02:43:22: <Mathnerd314> well, it's set by default - so someone removed it
+2010-04-16.txt:02:45:04: <Mathnerd314> therefore it's missing
+2010-04-16.txt:02:47:05: <Mathnerd314> +t is /in storage/ ?
+2010-04-16.txt:02:48:22: <Mathnerd314> so the channel "does not have" +t
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+2010-04-20.txt:02:09:45: <Gregor> Mathnerd314: 314 is too obvious, you should go with 271 (272?) or 161 (162?), maybe 141.
+2010-04-20.txt:02:12:47: <Mathnerd314> Gregor: it's intended to be obvious
+2010-04-20.txt:02:12:59: <Gregor> Mathnerd314: Exactly the problem :P
+2010-04-20.txt:02:13:19: <oerjan> pikhq: that's not math nerdy
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+2010-04-22.txt:02:44:29: <Mathnerd314> just encode some other turing-complete language in it
+2010-04-22.txt:02:53:33: -!- Mathnerd314 changed the topic of #esoteric to: #esoteric, the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment - #esoteric is not associated with the joke language Perl, please visit www.perl.org - logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D
+2010-04-22.txt:02:55:25: <Mathnerd314> oklofok: well, you haven't defined anything special for how the error set behaves
+2010-04-22.txt:03:00:07: <Mathnerd314> what happened to []?
+2010-04-22.txt:03:00:22: <Mathnerd314> your example is no longer valid...
+2010-04-22.txt:03:01:52: <Mathnerd314> now I'm not following... ([ runs with the empty set?
+2010-04-22.txt:03:02:07: <oerjan> Mathnerd314: basically the old [] could not be used to get much of any information _out_ of the loop
+2010-04-22.txt:03:03:21: <oerjan> Mathnerd314: <> doesn't make S the empty set, it _adds_ the empty set as an element
+2010-04-22.txt:03:03:55: <Mathnerd314> then why does <<>> add the set {{}}?
+2010-04-22.txt:03:04:37: <Mathnerd314> So, S={}, running <<>> gives S={{{}}}?
+2010-04-22.txt:03:04:49: <Mathnerd314> and S={}, running <> gives S={{}}
+2010-04-22.txt:03:04:55: <Mathnerd314> ok
+2010-04-22.txt:03:06:04: <Mathnerd314> oklofok == oklopol?
+2010-04-22.txt:03:08:46: <Mathnerd314> so, in Von Neumann, 0=<>, 1=<0>, 2=<0,1>, 3=<0,1,2>, etc.?
+2010-04-22.txt:03:08:52: <oerjan> Mathnerd314: yes
+2010-04-22.txt:03:09:22: <Mathnerd314> you might, instead of e, just have 0 1 2 etc.
+2010-04-22.txt:03:09:52: <Mathnerd314> or just remove e
+2010-04-22.txt:03:10:07: <Mathnerd314> (since by definition it's just <>)
+2010-04-22.txt:03:11:09: <Mathnerd314> maybe define error set = <error set> ?
+2010-04-22.txt:03:12:18: <Mathnerd314> that's the point of turing-completeness :-)
+2010-04-22.txt:03:13:04: <oerjan> Mathnerd314: not particularly, it's a trivial loop
+2010-04-22.txt:03:13:28: <Mathnerd314> ok, see you later
+2010-04-22.txt:03:13:59: <oerjan> bye Mathnerd314
+2010-04-22.txt:03:17:08: <oklofok> oh and bye mathnerd
+2010-04-22.txt:03:41:30: <Mathnerd314> oklofok: idea: add variables/functions to the language with =
+2010-04-22.txt:03:41:52: <Mathnerd314> like e=<>
+2010-04-22.txt:03:42:27: <Mathnerd314> well, it's just textual substitution
+2010-04-22.txt:03:44:13: <Mathnerd314> yeah; that's all I'm thinking of
+2010-04-22.txt:03:45:05: <Mathnerd314> maybe it's more like program-abbreviation
+2010-04-22.txt:03:45:43: <Mathnerd314> but yeah, shouldn't change anything about turing-completeness or whatever
+2010-04-22.txt:03:46:50: <Mathnerd314> I'm guessing you should be able to define some of r, a, or u in terms of the others
+2010-04-22.txt:03:47:45: <Mathnerd314> with loops
+2010-04-22.txt:03:48:01: <Mathnerd314> your language has no meaning for <r>, right?
+2010-04-22.txt:03:48:56: <Mathnerd314> that - is weird, then
+2010-04-22.txt:03:49:15: <Mathnerd314> no real semantics
+2010-04-22.txt:03:49:28: <Mathnerd314> pay no attention to me ;-)
+2010-04-22.txt:03:50:38: <Mathnerd314> as an example: tuple=u<>ua-<>u
+2010-04-22.txt:03:50:47: <Mathnerd314> you can write <> tuple
+2010-04-22.txt:03:51:31: <Mathnerd314> well, they aren't
+2010-04-22.txt:03:51:57: <Mathnerd314> because you just run it as <> u<>ua-<>u
+2010-04-22.txt:03:52:07: <Mathnerd314> well, they do contain sets
+2010-04-22.txt:03:52:20: <Mathnerd314> like foo=<<<<>>>>
+2010-04-22.txt:03:52:38: <Mathnerd314> but yeah, it's not a real set, it's a program meaning "add this set to S"
+2010-04-22.txt:03:55:17: <Mathnerd314> yeah, it's a definite choice
+2010-04-22.txt:03:55:26: <Mathnerd314> heh :-)
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+2010-04-23.txt:01:02:17: <Mathnerd314> Sgeo: can I have the list? ;-)
+2010-04-23.txt:01:02:20: <Mathnerd314> no, I just have a few shady friends who like lists of email addresses
+2010-04-23.txt:01:03:52: * Sgeo gives Mathnerd314 a list
+2010-04-23.txt:01:03:56: <Mathnerd314> heh
+2010-04-23.txt:01:04:19: <Mathnerd314> well, I'd need to track my "friends" down first
+2010-04-23.txt:01:05:15: <Mathnerd314> something like that
+2010-04-23.txt:01:07:48: <Mathnerd314> hmm... an esolang with email addresses :-)
+2010-04-23.txt:01:08:37: <Mathnerd314> TLD's are commands, usernames are variables, and domains get ignored
+2010-04-23.txt:01:09:45: <Mathnerd314> not certain what actual language to embed, though
+2010-04-23.txt:01:10:26: <Mathnerd314> I was thinking Haskell, actualy
+2010-04-23.txt:01:10:30: <Mathnerd314> *actually
+2010-04-23.txt:01:11:14: <Mathnerd314> well, it's more like a DSL
+2010-04-23.txt:01:12:50: <Mathnerd314> I could go small and just do some lambda calculus
+2010-04-23.txt:01:16:00: <Mathnerd314> Slightly Pedantic ActiveMail™
+2010-04-23.txt:01:17:34: <Mathnerd314> Hello.World@print.com
+2010-04-23.txt:01:18:31: <Mathnerd314> one+two@add.com
+2010-04-23.txt:01:18:47: <Mathnerd314> something like that
+2010-04-23.txt:01:19:38: <Mathnerd314> not certain what to do with abuse@ webmaster@ etc.
+2010-04-23.txt:01:19:59: <Mathnerd314> and I doubt I'll implement it :-/
+2010-04-23.txt:01:20:39: <Mathnerd314> heh
+2010-04-23.txt:01:20:48: <Mathnerd314> maybe it should accept actual emails ;-)
+2010-04-23.txt:01:21:07: <Mathnerd314> and look at the "To" field to see what to execute
+2010-04-23.txt:01:21:36: <Mathnerd314> so if you put it on a mail server, you have to spam to send it messages :D
+2010-04-23.txt:01:23:52: <Mathnerd314> no... too close to actual usefulness
+2010-04-23.txt:01:37:18: <Mathnerd314> a bot?
+2010-04-23.txt:01:37:20: <Mathnerd314> `help
+2010-04-23.txt:01:37:42: <Mathnerd314> wow
+2010-04-23.txt:01:37:50: <Mathnerd314> `sudo
+2010-04-23.txt:01:38:00: <Mathnerd314> heh
+2010-04-23.txt:01:38:27: <Mathnerd314> oh?
+2010-04-23.txt:01:38:34: <Mathnerd314> `ls
+2010-04-23.txt:01:38:53: <Mathnerd314> `ls /
+2010-04-23.txt:01:39:04: <Mathnerd314> `sudo ls /
+2010-04-23.txt:01:39:53: <Mathnerd314> `gcc -v
+2010-04-23.txt:01:41:46: <Mathnerd314> I don't see really see the point of hacking it
+2010-04-23.txt:01:43:40: <Mathnerd314> probably
+2010-04-23.txt:01:48:10: <Mathnerd314> `run sudo 2> out.txt
+2010-04-23.txt:01:48:50: <Mathnerd314> heh. no wonder it was failing ;-)
+2010-04-23.txt:01:49:19: <Mathnerd314> `uname
+2010-04-23.txt:01:52:43: <Mathnerd314> that xen looks unpromising :-|
+2010-04-23.txt:23:23:59: * Mathnerd314 looks at the Toi wiki page
+2010-04-23.txt:23:24:29: <Mathnerd314> oklopod: "useful algorithms"!
+2010-04-23.txt:23:27:13: <Mathnerd314> oklopod: my preprocessor looks even more useful now...
+2010-04-23.txt:23:31:57: <alise> Mathnerd314 falls under "trying too hard".
+2010-04-23.txt:23:32:11: <Mathnerd314> alise: ?
+2010-04-23.txt:23:32:27: <Mathnerd314> you mean my nick? :p
+2010-04-23.txt:23:33:47: <Mathnerd314> well, it started as a joke :-)
+2010-04-23.txt:23:34:26: <Mathnerd314> I needed a nick for a quick registration or two...
+2010-04-23.txt:23:44:47: <oklopod> when i saw Mathnerd314 i thought "what a coincidence, pi starts that way too"
+2010-04-23.txt:23:45:14: <Mathnerd314> heh
+2010-04-23.txt:23:46:02: <oklopod> before that i saw Mathnerd<clutter>
+2010-04-24.txt:17:48:33: <Mathnerd314> I wish I could dream about the awesomeness of unhyped unpopular technology :-(
+2010-04-24.txt:22:24:01: <Mathnerd314> Sgeo: all that matters is that it's consistent.
+2010-04-24.txt:22:24:30: <Mathnerd314> so consider extra ] to have needed [ at the beginning ;-)
+2010-04-24.txt:23:32:31: <Mathnerd314> ignore? what's that?
+2010-04-24.txt:23:33:53: <ais523> Mathnerd314: you can do, say, "/ignore ais523"; then you wouldn't be able to see anything I said
+2010-04-24.txt:23:39:48: <Mathnerd314> hmmm... what would /ignore Mathnerd314 do?
+2010-04-24.txt:23:40:19: <AnMaster> Mathnerd314, depending on client, either filter out all the lines you said or give syntax help
+2010-04-24.txt:23:41:26: <Mathnerd314> AnMaster: how many channels are you on on freenode?
+2010-04-24.txt:23:41:31: <AnMaster> Mathnerd314, why?
+2010-04-24.txt:23:41:45: <Mathnerd314> just want to see if I've found them all :p
+2010-04-24.txt:23:41:53: <AnMaster> Mathnerd314, some 70+ or so
+2010-04-24.txt:23:42:04: <Mathnerd314> ok
+2010-04-24.txt:23:42:11: <AnMaster> Mathnerd314, I doubt you found all
+2010-04-24.txt:23:42:15: <Mathnerd314> yeah
+2010-04-24.txt:23:42:52: <AnMaster> Mathnerd314, how many did you find? /whois on you show three channels. If you like me have that "hide channel list" mode set then that is the subset we are both in
+2010-04-24.txt:23:43:19: <Mathnerd314> yeah, just the 3 so far
+2010-04-24.txt:23:47:51: * Mathnerd314 finds #crossfire
+2010-04-24.txt:23:59:30: <Mathnerd314> zzo38: which client is this? :p
+2010-04-24.txt:23:59:37: <alise> Mathnerd314: his own
+2010-04-24.txt:23:59:40: <AnMaster> Mathnerd314, his own
+2010-04-24.txt:23:59:49: <Mathnerd314> *oh*
+2010-04-25.txt:00:00:12: <AnMaster> Mathnerd314, iirc he used to use netcat or such before he wrote it
+2010-04-25.txt:00:00:13: <Mathnerd314> is it online somewhere?
+2010-04-25.txt:00:04:00: <Mathnerd314> zzo38: this client? gopher://zzo38computer.cjb.net/0fossproj/irc_client/help
+2010-04-25.txt:00:04:35: <AnMaster> Mathnerd314, how comes you checked gopher://?
+2010-04-25.txt:00:04:58: <Mathnerd314> somehow I find it easier to browse his site with gopher :p
+2010-04-25.txt:00:05:06: <AnMaster> Mathnerd314, sure okay
+2010-04-25.txt:00:05:31: <Mathnerd314> it's right on the user page: http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/User:Zzo38
+2010-04-25.txt:00:32:29: <Mathnerd314> Answer: use latex
+2010-04-25.txt:00:34:02: <Mathnerd314> though what is Icoruma?
+2010-04-25.txt:00:34:38: <zzo38> Mathnerd314: Icoruma is a markup language specifically for typing the rules for role-playing-games.
+2010-04-25.txt:00:34:55: <Mathnerd314> is it documented anywhere?
+2010-04-25.txt:00:35:30: <Mathnerd314> (Icoruma's syntax)
+2010-04-25.txt:00:35:34: <zzo38> Mathnerd314: Not very well. But just wait a minute I will copy the files and documentation I have so far. I can post examples too, if you want.
+2010-04-25.txt:00:36:05: <Mathnerd314> ok. see you after lunch.
+2010-04-25.txt:00:36:15: <alise> Mathnerd314: bye
+2010-04-25.txt:01:04:54: <Mathnerd314> you could do prob(x) = 1/x^2
+2010-04-25.txt:01:05:20: <Mathnerd314> (suitably scaled)
+2010-04-25.txt:01:07:12: <oerjan> Mathnerd314: well yeah.  that doesn't work for [0,1] though.
+2010-04-25.txt:01:10:05: <zzo38> Mathnerd314:  http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/prog/Icoruma.zip  this might be what you were looking for
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+2010-04-25.txt:03:16:05: <Mathnerd314> oerjan: how do you know? ;-)
+2010-04-25.txt:03:17:16: <Mathnerd314> maybe 1267650600228229401496703205376 doesn't ever repeat :-)
+2010-04-25.txt:03:19:24: <Mathnerd314> just read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collatz_conjecture
+2010-04-25.txt:03:21:18: <alise> Mathnerd314: 1267650600228229401496703205376 < 20 * 2^58
+2010-04-25.txt:03:21:27: <Mathnerd314> oops
+2010-04-25.txt:03:21:58: <Mathnerd314> wait, 20*2^58?
+2010-04-25.txt:03:22:24: <Mathnerd314> that's only 5764607523034234880
+2010-04-25.txt:03:23:44: <Mathnerd314> no need; my earlier number was just 2^100 :-)
+2010-04-25.txt:03:24:09: <oerjan> Mathnerd314: d'oh
+2010-04-25.txt:03:24:48: <Mathnerd314> lambdabot is just so nice for these sorts of computations...
+2010-04-25.txt:03:42:22: <Mathnerd314> hmmm... is Pure an esoteric programming language?
+2010-04-25.txt:03:43:51: <alise> Mathnerd314: pure the rewrite language?
+2010-04-25.txt:03:43:59: <Mathnerd314> yeah
+2010-04-25.txt:03:44:08: <alise> Mathnerd314: it is pretty but not really esoteric
+2010-04-25.txt:03:44:11: <Mathnerd314> this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pure_%28programming_language%29
+2010-04-25.txt:03:46:47: <Mathnerd314> alise: so why is defcalc esoteric but pure not? :p
+2010-04-25.txt:03:47:05: <alise> Mathnerd314: for some paradigm P, tarpit(P) = esoteric; fully-developed language(P) = not esoteric
+2010-04-25.txt:03:49:33: <Mathnerd314> alise: defcalc is purer than Pure :p
+2010-04-25.txt:03:50:16: <Mathnerd314> no, pure has too many built-in special forms
+2010-04-25.txt:03:50:30: <alise> Mathnerd314: yeah :P
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+2010-04-25.txt:18:47:35: <Mathnerd314> got duct tape? :p
+2010-04-25.txt:19:56:35: <Mathnerd314> hmm... is the author of defcalc around anywhere?
+2010-04-25.txt:19:56:44: <alise> Mathnerd314: the wiki
+2010-04-25.txt:19:58:32: <Mathnerd314> alise: is he actually on the wiki?
+2010-04-25.txt:19:58:42: <alise> Mathnerd314: yes; after all, he wrote the article.
+2010-04-25.txt:20:02:57: <Mathnerd314> alise: like, prove to me that he hasn't dropped off the face of the earth sometime in the past month
+2010-04-25.txt:20:03:15: <alise> Mathnerd314: can't.
+2010-04-25.txt:20:04:40: <Mathnerd314> which ring?
+2010-04-25.txt:20:05:33: <oerjan> otherwise, what Mathnerd314 said
+2010-04-25.txt:20:15:22: <Mathnerd314> Sgeo_: you could use a break in the first to make it more consistent
+2010-04-25.txt:20:16:16: <Mathnerd314> then it would be a while(true)
+2010-04-25.txt:20:18:39: <Mathnerd314> that would make everything way too easy
+2010-04-25.txt:20:19:45: <Mathnerd314> pikhq: he'd just do some pattern matching with recursion
+2010-04-25.txt:20:20:46: <Mathnerd314> Sgeo_: why can't you just return a bool instead of passing in a reference?
+2010-04-25.txt:20:21:04: <Sgeo_> Mathnerd314, because this is what the professor wants, I think
+2010-04-25.txt:20:21:20: <Mathnerd314> Sgeo_: what class?
+2010-04-25.txt:20:22:00: <Sgeo_> Mathnerd314, data structures
+2010-04-25.txt:20:23:03: <Mathnerd314> Sgeo_: you're writing a binary tree?
+2010-04-25.txt:20:23:28: <Mathnerd314> Sgeo_: is it required to be in C++?
+2010-04-25.txt:20:43:14: <Mathnerd314> Sgeo_: my proposal: http://codepad.org/0BathdOv
+2010-04-25.txt:20:43:52: <Mathnerd314> Sgeo_: should be more useful than yours for the rest
+2010-04-25.txt:20:43:55: <Sgeo_> Mathnerd314, that looks.. unhelpful
+2010-04-25.txt:20:47:20: <Mathnerd314> fax: does Mathematica work? :p
+2010-04-25.txt:20:50:19: <Mathnerd314> alise: why is mathematica shit? I can only find 2 results on google for that
+2010-04-25.txt:20:51:09: <alise> Mathnerd314: It entices you in with pretty pictures and the like, but -- and ais523, winner of the Wolfram Prize, sufferer under Mathematica can attest to this -- one, it's coded shittily. It's basically unoptimised tree rewriting. The compositions of the C primitives that Wolfram Research expect/want you to do are blazing. Change one tiny little thing? Glacial.
+2010-04-25.txt:20:53:06: <alise> Mathnerd314: conclusion: Mathematica sucks.
+2010-04-25.txt:20:54:21: <Mathnerd314> big, slow, expensive... ok
+2010-04-25.txt:20:55:43: <Mathnerd314> well, expensive -> big, so that makes sense
+2010-04-25.txt:20:55:53: <Mathnerd314> and optimization is harder for big things
+2010-04-25.txt:20:58:09: * Mathnerd314 waits
+2010-04-25.txt:21:08:21: <Mathnerd314> fax: got something huge: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28t_1+%2B+w*t_2+%2B+w^2*t_3%29^3+%2B+%28t_1+%2B+w^3*t_2+%2B+w*t_3%29^3+with+w+%3D+e^%282+i+pi+%2F+3%29
+2010-04-25.txt:21:09:30: <fax> Mathnerd314: well there is a 3 in there which should be a 2
+2010-04-25.txt:21:10:04: <Mathnerd314> well, change it and press enter ;-)
+2010-04-25.txt:21:10:36: <Mathnerd314> it's real if t1-t3 are real
+2010-04-25.txt:21:11:08: <Mathnerd314> same for *
+2010-04-25.txt:21:11:30: <Mathnerd314> good enough?
+2010-04-25.txt:21:11:51: <Mathnerd314> http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28t_1+%2B+w*t_2+%2B+w^2*t_3%29^3+*+%28t_1+%2B+w^2*t_2+%2B+w*t_3%29^3+with+w+%3D+e^%282+i+pi+%2F+3%29
+2010-04-25.txt:21:12:09: <Mathnerd314> http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28t_1+%2B+w*t_2+%2B+w^2*t_3%29^3+%2B+%28t_1+%2B+w^2*t_2+%2B+w*t_3%29^3+with+w+%3D+e^%282+i+pi+%2F+3%29
+2010-04-25.txt:21:16:02: <Mathnerd314> fax?
+2010-04-25.txt:21:16:49: <Mathnerd314> ok
+2010-04-25.txt:21:17:19: <Mathnerd314> something to do with s2, I imagine
+2010-04-25.txt:21:23:30: <Mathnerd314> hah
+2010-04-25.txt:21:25:16: <Mathnerd314> http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=factor+2+x^3+-+3+y+x^2-3+z+x^2-3+y^2+x-3+z^2+x%2B12+y+z+x%2B2+y^3%2B2+z^3-3+y+z^2-3+y^2+z
+2010-04-25.txt:21:27:08: <Mathnerd314> so it's (s1-3 t1)(s1-3 t2)(s1 - 3 t3)
+2010-04-25.txt:21:28:10: <Mathnerd314> no no, let's do so :-
+2010-04-25.txt:21:28:14: <Mathnerd314> * :-)
+2010-04-25.txt:21:35:31: <Mathnerd314> hmmm... product is too long to enter into the textbox
+2010-04-25.txt:21:35:38: <alise> Mathnerd314: lol
+2010-04-25.txt:21:35:42: <fax> Mathnerd314 that keeps happening to me with wolfram :[
+2010-04-25.txt:21:38:54: <Mathnerd314> parser dies when removing all spaces :-/
+2010-04-25.txt:21:40:21: <Mathnerd314> I actually got visited at a summer camp by wolfram :-)
+2010-04-25.txt:21:41:13: <Mathnerd314> it was a big room ;-)
+2010-04-25.txt:21:41:48: <alise> Mathnerd314: Like a TARDIS!
+2010-04-25.txt:21:42:33: <Mathnerd314> ?help
+2010-04-25.txt:21:49:41: * Mathnerd314 fires up Sage
+2010-04-25.txt:21:49:46: <Mathnerd314> (on a VM)
+2010-04-25.txt:21:51:37: <alise> Mathnerd314: sage is kinda crappy
+2010-04-25.txt:21:52:01: <Mathnerd314> alise: but it has a polynomial factorer :-)
+2010-04-25.txt:21:55:12: <Mathnerd314> fax: (x^2 - x y + y^2 - x z - y z + z^2)^3
+2010-04-25.txt:21:56:14: <fax> Mathnerd, http://hpaste.org/fastcgi/hpaste.fcgi/view?id=25045
+2010-04-25.txt:21:57:07: <Mathnerd314> fax: to floating-point precision ;-)
+2010-04-25.txt:21:57:22: <Mathnerd314> (unless you have CReal)
+2010-04-25.txt:21:57:48: <fax> Mathnerd314, one thing which is missing is radical expressions for cube roots of unity.. but that will be another time
+2010-04-25.txt:21:58:12: <Mathnerd314> you said you wanted to sleep :-)
+2010-04-25.txt:22:00:06: <Mathnerd314> yeah; I like http://gmplib.org/#TRY a lot
+2010-04-25.txt:22:03:05: * Mathnerd314 laughs because he's so confused
+2010-04-25.txt:22:03:41: <Mathnerd314> bye fax
+2010-04-25.txt:22:06:29: * Mathnerd314 counts 3 ops on #esoteric
+2010-04-25.txt:22:08:15: <Mathnerd314> yep
+2010-04-25.txt:22:09:08: <Mathnerd314> well, you can ask on #freenode
+2010-04-25.txt:22:12:56: <Mathnerd314> not turing-complete :p
+2010-04-25.txt:22:23:21: <Mathnerd314> entropy divides itself by 0, obviously
+2010-04-25.txt:22:25:15: <Mathnerd314> that story has been going around: http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html
+2010-04-25.txt:22:26:12: <alise> Mathnerd314: It's been going around forever.
+2010-04-25.txt:22:27:15: <Mathnerd314> alise: well, is it true?
+2010-04-25.txt:22:27:29: <alise> Mathnerd314: The story? As in literally?
+2010-04-25.txt:22:27:43: <Mathnerd314> "could it be true?"
+2010-04-25.txt:22:28:28: <Mathnerd314> "do you want it to be true?"
+2010-04-25.txt:22:28:37: <alise> Mathnerd314: I doubt there is a sort of metareality into which AC can somehow slip into when the universe ends.
+2010-04-25.txt:22:29:47: <Mathnerd314> well, it definitely has a "punchline" at the end
+2010-04-25.txt:22:31:23: <Mathnerd314> Phantom_Hoover: external usb drive!
+2010-04-25.txt:22:31:33: <Mathnerd314> (or usb thumbdrive)
+2010-04-25.txt:22:31:38: <Mathnerd314> (or sd card)
+2010-04-25.txt:22:31:47: <Mathnerd314> bye
+2010-04-25.txt:22:33:52: <Mathnerd314> oh, yeah
+2010-04-25.txt:22:34:00: * Mathnerd314 googles and finds it again
+[too many lines; stopping]