# HG changeset patch # User HackBot # Date 1361653027 0 # Node ID 3b22e800418cdd40dba10b26197df7b3ef299b57 # Parent d51076101d518aae520d3af002708cccd8e871bf pastelogs taneb diff -r d51076101d51 -r 3b22e800418c paste/paste.12059 --- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/paste/paste.12059 Sat Feb 23 20:57:07 2013 +0000 @@ -0,0 +1,300 @@ +2010-06-10.txt:00:17:52: oh piet? you're not taneb from that forum by any chance? (he currently has a piet program avatar) +2010-09-06.txt:20:39:56: -!- Taneb has joined #esoteric. +2010-09-06.txt:20:40:51: Hello! +2010-09-06.txt:20:41:03: I'm kinda new to this +2010-09-06.txt:20:41:21: hi Taneb +2010-09-06.txt:20:41:45: What would a Hackiki wiki do? +2010-09-06.txt:20:42:35: Taneb, it runs arbitrary code. +2010-09-06.txt:20:42:49: Taneb: I suppose the idea is we would run interpreters for esolangs directly on it. +2010-09-06.txt:20:43:03: Ah, thanks +2010-09-06.txt:20:52:21: -!- Taneb has parted #esoteric (?). +2010-09-07.txt:04:24:05: Hello! +2010-11-29.txt:15:36:59: but i was a bit confused because i know there's a guy on the mezzacotta forums who uses a piet avatar (Taneb) +2011-07-11.txt:12:50:31: -!- Taneb has joined #esoteric. +2011-07-11.txt:12:50:45: Hello! +2011-07-11.txt:12:51:26: hi Taneb! +2011-07-11.txt:13:03:18: Taneb: is noryshorts just replacing nand by nor in the description of nandypants? +2011-07-11.txt:13:03:45: @oerjan yeah +2011-07-11.txt:13:04:03: Taneb: @ is a dangerous prefix in our channel :P +2011-07-11.txt:13:04:26: I'll make sure to note that. +2011-07-11.txt:13:04:55: Taneb: which means they're not _entirely_ dual to each other, because they treat 0 and 1 differently +2011-07-11.txt:13:05:18: No, but I think they're both Turing Complete +2011-07-11.txt:13:05:50: I'm working on translating boolfuck into noryshorts +2011-07-11.txt:13:06:10: It's the input that's the hardest +2011-07-11.txt:13:19:33: I think I've got everything for the Boolfuck to Noryshorts conversion exceppt input +2011-07-11.txt:13:21:09: I want to do input for completion's sake +2011-07-11.txt:13:23:37: http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Underload +2011-07-11.txt:13:33:21: Right, I've think I've translated input from Boolfuck to Noryshorts +2011-07-11.txt:13:36:36: And I've had an idea for a simpler one for Nandypants +2011-07-11.txt:13:38:35: Invented by me +2011-07-11.txt:13:39:03: Thanks? +2011-07-11.txt:13:41:43: Oh, ooh dear +2011-07-11.txt:13:46:48: Taneb: oh hm i think your nandypants boolfuck has a bug +2011-07-11.txt:13:47:08: Go ahead... +2011-07-11.txt:13:48:02: Yeah, fixing that now +2011-07-11.txt:13:48:08: I even have the edit page open +2011-07-11.txt:13:52:53: There +2011-07-11.txt:13:57:19: Phantom_Hoover, does your brainfuck-derivative pledge include humorous animal themed brainfuck-equivaletns? +2011-07-11.txt:13:57:58: Taneb, yes, except brickbraining those people is pointless because it would just make their brain slightly harder. +2011-07-11.txt:13:58:33: What about the at least one who has otherwise displayed originality in esoterica? +2011-07-11.txt:13:58:54: Taneb, the only forgiveable one is Ook! +2011-07-11.txt:13:59:04: That was the one I was referring too +2011-07-11.txt:13:59:51: DMM is pretty much the only reason I'm here +2011-07-11.txt:14:01:51: I'm going to vote that the text "Well, not really, but h" to be replaced with "H" in DMM's article on the wiki +2011-07-11.txt:14:05:57: Also, bye everyone +2011-07-11.txt:14:10:19: -!- Taneb has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). +2011-07-11.txt:15:16:37: -!- Taneb has joined #esoteric. +2011-07-11.txt:15:16:47: Hello IRC! +2011-07-11.txt:15:18:44: Taneb: hello again. i fixed your [ ] code, or so i hope. +2011-07-11.txt:15:20:23: Hmm, yeah +2011-07-11.txt:15:21:56: Why oh why did I mentally insert an "out with" into that sentence +2011-07-11.txt:15:22:23: Taneb: well SgeoN1 _was_ abusing it... +2011-07-11.txt:15:23:03: Probably HDD weirdness +2011-07-11.txt:15:24:13: Okay, that's worrying. +2011-07-11.txt:15:25:02: Taneb: there's some history here, Sgeo has managed to break one disk already by acting in a completely inappropriate way after a disk head crash +2011-07-11.txt:15:27:10: I may make an esolang based on football (soccer) +2011-07-11.txt:15:28:16: Like "[player] scores!" would be output +2011-07-11.txt:15:29:10: And input would be "The manager is having words with [player]" +2011-07-11.txt:15:29:14: Or something +2011-07-11.txt:15:33:52: And passing would increment the the ball's variable +2011-07-11.txt:15:34:06: SgeoN1: Like backing up your stuff? +2011-07-11.txt:15:35:48: Also, is Deadfish a finite state automaton? +2011-07-11.txt:15:36:28: That may because something very bad is about to happen +2011-07-11.txt:15:37:16: How much is a few? +2011-07-11.txt:15:38:45: It's going up +2011-07-11.txt:15:39:39: I assume it was zero at some point +2011-07-11.txt:16:31:11: -!- Taneb has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). +2011-07-11.txt:16:32:25: -!- Taneb has joined #esoteric. +2011-07-11.txt:16:32:44: Hello +2011-07-11.txt:16:36:33: taneb: why world is like wtf +2011-07-11.txt:16:37:17: Um... what? +2011-07-11.txt:16:43:08: zzo38: no +2011-07-11.txt:17:05:48: -!- Taneb has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). +2011-07-11.txt:17:46:39: -!- Taneb has joined #esoteric. +2011-07-11.txt:17:47:30: Hello again +2011-07-11.txt:18:02:57: -!- Taneb has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). +2011-07-11.txt:18:17:21: -!- Taneb has joined #esoteric. +2011-07-11.txt:18:19:51: Hello +2011-07-11.txt:18:22:17: What's up? +2011-07-11.txt:18:35:26: Well, NewsCorp is in a tricky situation in the UK +2011-07-11.txt:18:41:38: Not necasohgodIcan'tsppellthatword. That bill for fixed term parliaments never passed +2011-07-11.txt:19:10:15: -!- Taneb has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). +2011-07-11.txt:19:30:26: -!- Taneb has joined #esoteric. +2011-07-11.txt:19:32:16: hello oerjan, Taneb +2011-07-11.txt:19:32:24: Hello +2011-07-11.txt:19:33:10: Also, is Deadfish a finite state automaton? +2011-07-11.txt:19:33:30: Taneb: Deadfish is super turing complete, HTH +2011-07-11.txt:19:37:15: Taneb: deadfish _would_ have been an FSA except that the original implementation horribly broke the check for overflow in the case of squaring. and that's part of its charm. +2011-07-11.txt:20:43:51: -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Taneb). +2011-07-11.txt:20:44:02: -!- Taneb has joined #esoteric. +2011-07-11.txt:22:00:26: -!- Taneb has quit (Remote host closed the connection). +2011-07-12.txt:15:17:01: -!- Taneb has joined #esoteric. +2011-07-12.txt:15:17:05: Hello! +2011-07-12.txt:15:18:05: Countdown has the letters for Linux +2011-07-12.txt:15:19:27: Signed integers can also have Base -2 inegers +2011-07-12.txt:15:19:31: *integers +2011-07-12.txt:15:19:38: Taneb: good point, that's a reasonable representation +2011-07-12.txt:15:22:15: I don't get that XKCD +2011-07-12.txt:15:22:24: Strunk and White? +2011-07-12.txt:15:22:29: Taneb: o_O +2011-07-12.txt:15:22:59: I'm British +2011-07-12.txt:15:23:05: Taneb: so am I +2011-07-12.txt:15:23:58: I still have no idea who Ron Paul +2011-07-12.txt:15:24:02: is +2011-07-12.txt:15:24:26: Taneb: he's the president of australia +2011-07-12.txt:15:24:29: Taneb: American politician, tends to be the third most popular (and thus way behind the Democratic and Republican candidates for President) +2011-07-12.txt:15:27:36: There's a penis joke in that? +2011-07-12.txt:15:28:03: Taneb: well penis enough. +2011-07-12.txt:15:28:18: Taneb: as you can see, we are always on-topic. +2011-07-12.txt:15:31:59: I invoke Godwin's +2011-07-12.txt:15:32:04: And Poe's +2011-07-12.txt:15:33:05: Poe's was about parodies +2011-07-12.txt:15:35:59: Because a ninja is tickling you? +2011-07-12.txt:15:37:36: Explaining recursion is tricky... +2011-07-12.txt:15:37:44: Taneb: try explaining recursion +2011-07-12.txt:15:38:21: Huh +2011-07-12.txt:15:38:46: Turned out he got recursion, he just didn't get the return statement +2011-07-12.txt:15:39:26: Taneb: wait, do you teach programming too? +2011-07-12.txt:15:39:41: Not professionaly +2011-07-12.txt:15:40:01: If I was professional, I wouldn't be on IRC at the same time +2011-07-12.txt:15:40:36: `addquote Turned out he got recursion, he just didn't get the return statement +2011-07-12.txt:15:40:37: 500) Turned out he got recursion, he just didn't get the return statement +2011-07-12.txt:15:43:51: "Kan jeg have en pony?" +2011-07-12.txt:15:46:03: Right, I've succeeded in explaining the return function +2011-07-12.txt:15:46:23: Statement, then +2011-07-12.txt:16:17:21: Here's an on-topic idea: Queue data structure with fast track passes +2011-07-12.txt:16:18:41: ben ate taneb +2011-07-12.txt:16:18:52: He did? +2011-07-12.txt:16:28:45: Lion oil! +2011-07-12.txt:16:29:19: Taneb, the oil of champions! +2011-07-12.txt:16:32:41: Bye +2011-07-12.txt:16:36:27: -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Taneb). +2011-07-12.txt:16:36:40: -!- Taneb has joined #esoteric. +2011-07-12.txt:16:36:46: Hello +2011-07-12.txt:16:37:33: hi Taneb, do you wanna do palindromes or math? +2011-07-12.txt:16:37:47: I'm going to do math. +2011-07-12.txt:16:37:57: I'm no good at palindromes +2011-07-12.txt:16:38:15: Better than me +2011-07-12.txt:16:38:56: Not personally. +2011-07-12.txt:16:39:05: I would say "seven a mum" +2011-07-12.txt:16:39:08: British +2011-07-12.txt:16:39:24: Heck, I may even say "seven a mam" 'cos I'm Northern +2011-07-12.txt:16:40:34: No? +2011-07-12.txt:16:40:54: "mu, emphasis"? +2011-07-12.txt:16:42:03: Taneb: thank you, now i just need to fix the small hpm problem +2011-07-12.txt:16:42:50: Oh dear; read ho! +2011-07-12.txt:16:43:05: Taneb: you are a natural +2011-07-12.txt:16:44:07: E, esoteric, ire to see. +2011-07-12.txt:16:44:33: So, is there an annoying esoteric programming language called "E"? +2011-07-12.txt:16:44:45: Taneb: there certainly is a language called that +2011-07-12.txt:16:45:37: But it's conventionaaaaal! +2011-07-12.txt:16:51:09: Flow ebb Malbolge, eg., lob lamb be wolf +2011-07-12.txt:16:52:25: eg. means for example +2011-07-12.txt:16:53:28: Probably +2011-07-12.txt:16:55:47: Yep. +2011-07-12.txt:16:55:55: Or to understand, like the tides +2011-07-12.txt:16:56:27: Lamb has a silent lette +2011-07-12.txt:16:56:30: r +2011-07-12.txt:16:56:40: Sheep is the same in the plural +2011-07-12.txt:16:57:00: So I'm told +2011-07-12.txt:16:58:02: SS eh? Come on, no emo chess. +2011-07-12.txt:16:58:27: SS eh being my lack of understanding is like a ship. +2011-07-12.txt:16:58:54: I have no idea what's going on +2011-07-12.txt:16:58:59: I'm just writing palindromes +2011-07-12.txt:17:00:14: That works too +2011-07-12.txt:17:00:33: I just want to say that the Nazis killed more people than Jews +2011-07-12.txt:17:01:28: Just everyone only remembers the jews +2011-07-12.txt:17:01:37: Yeah, it was mainly Jews. +2011-07-12.txt:17:02:17: That was the communists +2011-07-12.txt:17:02:27: Who killed that clowwn +2011-07-12.txt:17:03:34: Bye +2011-07-12.txt:17:08:28: -!- Taneb has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). +2011-07-12.txt:17:40:20: -!- Taneb has joined #esoteric. +2011-07-12.txt:17:40:35: Hello! +2011-07-12.txt:18:00:51: Hello? +2011-07-12.txt:18:29:47: -!- Taneb has parted #esoteric. +2011-07-12.txt:19:19:33: 500) Turned out he got recursion, he just didn't get the return statement +2011-07-12.txt:19:39:59: I invoke Godwin's +2011-07-12.txt:19:52:58: Heck, I may even say "seven a mam" 'cos I'm Northern +2011-07-12.txt:19:53:16: by some freak coincidence taneb is elliott's next door neighbor +2011-07-12.txt:20:00:42: well, *coincidence* would be "... it just so happens that taneb's selected target coordinates made him elliott's neighbor" +2011-07-12.txt:21:03:31: -!- Taneb has joined #esoteric. +2011-07-12.txt:21:03:41: Hello! +2011-07-12.txt:22:08:28: Hello +2011-07-12.txt:22:12:47: I've just had an awful idea for an esoteric programming language +2011-07-12.txt:22:13:37: Taneb: What idea? +2011-07-12.txt:22:14:14: The program is a lambda calculus thing +2011-07-12.txt:22:14:20: Just one. +2011-07-12.txt:22:14:31: It is then run as a church numeral +2011-07-12.txt:22:14:53: And the result is taken as a base 256 number and converted into ASCII and outputted +2011-07-12.txt:22:15:04: If any of that makes sense +2011-07-12.txt:22:15:27: Taneb: see lazy k +2011-07-12.txt:22:16:34: Not quite what I was going for +2011-07-12.txt:22:17:12: I have no idea what SKI is about +2011-07-12.txt:22:19:49: Taneb: just predefined combinators: +2011-07-12.txt:22:23:05: So, it's equivalent to Lambda Calculus? +2011-07-12.txt:22:29:17: Taneb: unlambda is the first and most famous SKI esolang +2011-07-12.txt:22:29:52: Okay +2011-07-12.txt:22:44:33: Good evening, my further East than me addresser +2011-07-12.txt:23:02:21: -!- Taneb has quit (Remote host closed the connection). +2011-07-12.txt:23:57:17: " by some freak coincidence taneb is elliott's next door neighbor" <<< a neighbor of mine was on #proglangdesign some years ago, a channel of about 6 people at that time +2011-07-13.txt:00:06:58: " So, it's equivalent to Lambda Calculus?" <<< yep but the usual conversion algo from lc to ski has an exponential blowup +2011-07-13.txt:12:58:38: -!- Taneb has joined #esoteric. +2011-07-13.txt:12:58:42: Hello! +2011-07-13.txt:12:59:57: Hello? +2011-07-13.txt:13:09:21: What's up? +2011-07-13.txt:13:11:09: Yeah, CakeProphet, deal with it. +2011-07-13.txt:13:12:37: In other news, I think Egypt's having its October Revolution +2011-07-13.txt:13:12:47: JUST AS I PREDICTED IT WOULD +2011-07-13.txt:13:33:53: Taneb, october revolution in july? nice +2011-07-13.txt:13:45:32: -!- Taneb has parted #esoteric. +2011-07-13.txt:14:30:25: -!- Taneb has joined #esoteric. +2011-07-13.txt:14:30:47: I've just had an idea +2011-07-13.txt:14:31:01: An esoteric programming language based on Numberwang +2011-07-13.txt:14:31:12: From That Mitchell and Webb Look +2011-07-13.txt:14:31:29: And also Wang B-Machines +2011-07-13.txt:14:31:44: And a bit of Malbolge for extra measure +2011-07-13.txt:14:33:20: Instructions will be, GO RIGHT, GO LEFT, FLIP, IF ON GOTO, and NUMBERWANG. +2011-07-13.txt:14:33:31: Except these will be encrypted as numbers +2011-07-13.txt:14:35:13: In Soviet Russia, The State has no undefined information: action actually is needed +2011-07-13.txt:14:37:11: Numberwang will be the halt instruction +2011-07-13.txt:14:50:57: -!- Taneb has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). +2011-07-13.txt:20:07:59: -!- Taneb has joined #esoteric. +2011-07-13.txt:20:15:06: I've been thinking about my next esolang, Numberwang +2011-07-13.txt:20:16:41: It's got elements of a Wang-B machine, Malbolge, and Numberwang from That Mitchell and Webb Look +2011-07-13.txt:20:16:51: Taneb, lemme guess, it'll consist entirely of enterprisey buzzwords designed to make it look like there's a language somewhere which will mysteriously evaporate if any attempt is made to implement it? +2011-07-13.txt:20:17:16: Wow, that's a good idea. +2011-07-13.txt:20:17:21: But it's not Numberwang +2011-07-13.txt:20:17:53: The programs are lists of numbers +2011-07-13.txt:20:18:20: Taneb, you're going to re-create BancSTAR? +2011-07-13.txt:20:18:38: Closer to FRACTRAN +2011-07-13.txt:20:18:53: But it's completely different +2011-07-13.txt:20:20:36: I need a way to convert any terminating decimal into an integer 1 to 4 +2011-07-13.txt:20:21:19: Taneb, round it to the nearest of 1,2,3, or 4 +2011-07-13.txt:20:21:34: Nah, needs to be crazier +2011-07-13.txt:20:21:45: I need a way to convert any terminating decimal into an integer 1 to 4 +2011-07-13.txt:20:22:01: Like, not recurring +2011-07-13.txt:20:22:07: Yeah +2011-07-13.txt:20:22:32: Taneb, take the hash, and find its value modulo 4. +2011-07-13.txt:20:24:23: What do swords have to do with anything? +2011-07-13.txt:20:24:54: Maybe someone blue-nosed bowdlerised it? +2011-07-13.txt:21:36:45: "All fnord fnord always fnord"? +2011-07-13.txt:21:37:12: Taneb: words of wisdom by fungot +2011-07-13.txt:21:39:52: Should I define the Numberwang operation in Numberwang, or keep it vague? +2011-07-13.txt:21:40:40: Taneb: you should define it with a program in numberwang. +2011-07-13.txt:21:40:49: I reckon Numberwang is Turing Complete without it +2011-07-13.txt:21:42:04: I have it print "It's Numberwang! +" +2011-07-13.txt:21:42:53: *may +2011-07-13.txt:21:43:58: Or run the Numberwang program "12! 4.4! 92! 10! 49.8! 2! 2! 2!" with the current tape and everything +2011-07-13.txt:21:45:12: Except I have no idea if Numberwang can do loops +2011-07-13.txt:21:45:26: It probably can. +2011-07-13.txt:21:45:31: It has a GOTO command +2011-07-13.txt:21:47:00: No +2011-07-13.txt:21:49:15: I may write an interpreter and release it closed-source +2011-07-13.txt:21:49:32: Just to watch everyone not bother to do anything about it +2011-07-13.txt:21:52:56: So, may I move the existing Numberwang? +2011-07-13.txt:21:53:18: Which is: a) Orphaned +2011-07-13.txt:21:53:24: b) uncategorized +2011-07-13.txt:21:53:39: c) a brainfuck derivative +2011-07-13.txt:21:54:01: d) not actually uncategorized +2011-07-13.txt:21:58:35: Is there a proper way to link to Wikipedia, or do I just use the external links? +2011-07-13.txt:21:59:25: Thanks +2011-07-13.txt:22:06:44: What do you call it, when you've got the list, the text between the items? +2011-07-13.txt:22:08:12: Like, if I wanted to have Numberwang programs as 13! 42! 2! 7! 9!, it would be "!" +2011-07-13.txt:22:08:21: Thanks +2011-07-13.txt:22:09:15: Also, is moduloed a word? +2011-07-13.txt:22:09:20: As in, moduloed by four +2011-07-13.txt:22:14:00: If I said "modulo 4", etc, the sentence would be ambiguous. +2011-07-13.txt:22:14:04: I've worked around it +2011-07-13.txt:22:21:45: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Numberwang +2011-07-13.txt:22:32:13: What was your idea? +2011-07-13.txt:22:40:09: It is a club, that is for gentelmen +2011-07-13.txt:22:40:15: As in, men who are gentle +2011-07-13.txt:22:40:39: Where they can sit quietly and read, or play bridge if they desire +2011-07-13.txt:22:41:25: Don't know how to play +2011-07-13.txt:22:43:07: On a bridge? +2011-07-13.txt:22:43:21: Taneb, yes. +2011-07-13.txt:22:44:14: You don't know what gender I am +2011-07-13.txt:22:44:33: But yeah, I'm male +2011-07-13.txt:22:44:59: Isn't it rich? +2011-07-13.txt:22:45:02: Aren't we a pair? +2011-07-13.txt:22:45:07: Me finally here on the ground, +2011-07-13.txt:22:45:11: You in mid-air +2011-07-13.txt:22:45:16: Taneb, ah, but are you 40 years old? +2011-07-13.txt:22:46:13: Phantom_Hoover: I'm not going to be 40 for a while +2011-07-13.txt:22:46:19: 24 years +2011-07-13.txt:22:47:39: I am regretting joining this chat +2011-07-13.txt:22:47:51: It's too... +2011-07-13.txt:22:47:58: Taneb, gay? +2011-07-13.txt:22:47:59: Wrong-gentlemen's-club-y +2011-07-13.txt:22:48:12: Nah, too sexual +2011-07-13.txt:22:48:32: Now, that just sounds like a woodwind instrument +2011-07-13.txt:22:49:56: Which part? +2011-07-13.txt:22:50:12: Taneb, well, that'd be telling. +2011-07-13.txt:22:52:34: I am regretting joining this chat <-- you know, there used to much more of this stuff a few years ago :P +2011-07-13.txt:22:52:56: I'm sincerely glad I'm a newb, then +2011-07-13.txt:22:57:15: Okay, I've created three esoteric programming languages this year, and they all begin with N +2011-07-13.txt:22:57:18: Taneb: although funnily i can only recall two people on the channel who are openly gay. (augur being one, of course.) +2011-07-13.txt:22:58:10: I'm not homophobic, I just don't like talking about sex or nakedness +2011-07-13.txt:22:58:34: agda.