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<oerjan> le/rn soviet union/In ancient history, the Soviet Union used to be the THEM. They believed in absurd principles like "Better Red than Dead". Then Ronald Reagan invented Star Wars to destroy it, after which there seemed to be no the THEM for a while.
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2010-09-08.txt:04:18:59: -!- perdito has joined #esoteric. 2010-09-08.txt:04:19:03: <perdito> hi 2010-09-08.txt:04:20:22: <Sgeo> Hi perdito 2010-09-08.txt:04:20:41: <perdito> nope.. hi sgeo 2010-09-08.txt:04:21:41: <perdito> thx 2010-09-08.txt:04:22:16: <perdito> let me check topic infos 2010-09-08.txt:04:22:47: <perdito> oh ok 2010-09-08.txt:04:23:49: <perdito> sounds good 2010-09-08.txt:04:24:02: <perdito> hail eris 2010-09-08.txt:04:24:04: <perdito> hail isis 2010-09-08.txt:04:24:35: <perdito> what are esoteric programming languages? 2010-09-08.txt:04:24:59: <coppro> perdito: Programming languages with little practical use, like INTERCAL 2010-09-08.txt:04:26:08: <perdito> interesting 2010-09-08.txt:04:26:23: <perdito> i guess i like this place 2010-09-08.txt:04:27:45: <perdito> i hope you'll excuse my poor english then.. but i'd like to stay and listen for a while 2010-09-08.txt:04:28:00: <perdito> and maybe learn something 2010-09-08.txt:04:28:25: <pikhq> perdito: Your English doesn't seem poor to me. 2010-09-08.txt:04:29:17: <perdito> thx pikhq, but i think you'll change your mind soon enough 2010-09-08.txt:04:29:18: <perdito> :) 2010-09-08.txt:04:29:23: <coppro> and yours isn't particularly bad, perdito 2010-09-08.txt:04:29:34: <perdito> well thank you 2010-09-08.txt:04:29:38: <pikhq> perdito: Believe me, I've seen worse. From native speakers of English. 2010-09-08.txt:04:31:11: <perdito> k.. so most of you are programmers or sth? 2010-09-08.txt:04:31:26: <pikhq> perdito: Pretty much all programmers here. 2010-09-08.txt:08:10:15: -!- perdito has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 2010-11-23.txt:00:49:35: -!- perdito has joined #esoteric. 2010-11-23.txt:00:49:54: <perdito> hi 2010-11-23.txt:01:02:52: <Sgeo> Hi perdito 2010-11-23.txt:01:03:15: <Sgeo> perdito, have you been here before? 2010-11-23.txt:01:05:28: <perdito> hi sgeo.. yes i've been here once 2010-11-23.txt:01:05:45: <perdito> hehe 2010-11-23.txt:01:05:58: <perdito> how are things going? 2010-11-23.txt:01:08:34: <perdito> did you manage to find new ways of developing purposeless applications 2010-11-23.txt:01:09:54: <perdito> are you human? 2010-11-23.txt:01:14:45: <perdito> im not very familiar with freenode.net, and interested in c# programming.. can you give me some hints where to start? a chan or sth 2010-11-23.txt:01:15:32: <perdito> check 2010-11-23.txt:01:18:17: <perdito> is there a .net channel on freenode? 2010-11-23.txt:01:20:50: <perdito> a pity 2010-11-23.txt:01:21:49: <perdito> thanks anyway 2010-11-23.txt:01:24:00: <Sgeo> perdito, try ##csharp 2010-11-23.txt:01:24:41: <perdito> k.. thx sgeo 2010-11-23.txt:22:50:03: -!- perdito has joined #esoteric. 2010-11-24.txt:15:20:58: -!- perdito has quit (*.net *.split). 2010-11-24.txt:15:25:01: -!- perdito has joined #esoteric. 2010-11-24.txt:15:57:14: -!- perdito has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 2010-11-24.txt:16:53:44: -!- perdito has joined #esoteric. 2010-11-24.txt:16:53:48: <elliott> hi perdito 2010-11-24.txt:16:53:49: <perdito> hi@all 2010-11-24.txt:16:53:59: <perdito> hoi elliot 2010-11-24.txt:16:54:12: <elliott> perdito: are you thumb mature? 2010-11-24.txt:16:54:28: <perdito> what? 2010-11-24.txt:16:55:41: <perdito> sry..not familiar with..ehm..this kind of expression 2010-11-24.txt:16:56:08: <elliott> perdito: programmer? 2010-11-24.txt:16:56:15: <perdito> yes 2010-11-24.txt:16:56:32: <elliott> perdito: ah. i was just trying to scare off the other type that come here 2010-11-24.txt:16:57:08: <perdito> yess.. but there felt a lil bit spooky 2010-11-24.txt:16:57:17: <perdito> -there+i 2010-11-24.txt:16:57:48: <perdito> u have to know my english is a little bit corroded 2010-11-24.txt:16:58:46: <perdito> need a little more practise.. if u excuse 2010-11-24.txt:17:10:22: <perdito> so you're developing games? :) 2010-11-24.txt:17:10:38: <elliott> perdito: no, we're just addicted to Minecraft :) 2010-11-24.txt:17:10:47: <perdito> k 2010-11-24.txt:17:10:58: <elliott> perdito: we're http://esolangs.org/ 2010-11-24.txt:17:11:58: <perdito> yes.. the purpose is kind off abstract 2010-11-24.txt:17:12:02: <perdito> -f 2010-11-24.txt:17:12:13: <perdito> at least for me ;) 2010-11-24.txt:17:16:18: <perdito> i think "erisian programming" would fit better 2010-11-24.txt:17:16:23: <perdito> :) 2010-11-24.txt:17:22:59: <elliott> perdito: heh 2010-11-24.txt:17:39:22: <perdito> wow.. its beautiful! 2010-11-24.txt:17:39:35: <perdito> im fucking impressed 2010-11-24.txt:18:00:04: -!- perdito is now known as perdito|afk. 2010-11-24.txt:19:07:02: <perdito|afk> yes.. where's the joy in life if one cannot die 2010-11-24.txt:19:07:15: -!- perdito|afk is now known as perdito. 2010-11-24.txt:19:10:22: <perdito> Goose124: both suck pretty well 2010-11-24.txt:19:11:41: <Goose124> perdito, does that mean you can give me a better one? :D 2010-11-24.txt:19:12:02: <perdito> no 2010-11-24.txt:19:12:29: <perdito> ;) 2010-11-24.txt:22:05:55: <perdito> well guys..thx for takin me into this minecraft thing.. im really impressed by the work of these 'gang of four'.. this project has everthing.. absolutley innovative and genious gamedesign.. eye-openening technology.. beutiful 8bit loving art, music and last-but-not-least.. spirit 2010-11-24.txt:22:06:30: <Phantom_Hoover> Wait, perdito got into our server? 2010-11-24.txt:22:06:32: <elliott> perdito: haha, good to know a channel about esoteric programming languages can serve a purpose by being wildly offtopic 2010-11-24.txt:22:06:40: <perdito> srfy 2010-11-24.txt:22:06:44: <elliott> perdito: ? 2010-11-24.txt:22:06:46: <perdito> :) 2010-11-24.txt:22:09:43: <perdito> i have to compare its genious to the first days of id-software.. back in those days..names like carmack and romero were heroes in my eyes 2010-11-24.txt:22:09:57: <perdito> beutiful minde 2010-11-24.txt:22:10:01: <perdito> -e+s 2010-11-24.txt:22:10:16: <perdito> very inspirative work 2010-11-24.txt:22:11:58: <perdito> btw.. guess what good ol'carmack does today? 2010-11-24.txt:22:12:41: <perdito> he's developing spacecraft vehicles :D 2010-11-24.txt:22:27:48: <perdito> next, i need to get a closer look at this 'Lightweight Java Game Library' (LWJGL).. seems to be powerful stuff.. anyone having some experience in using it? ..i never used java, but it seems i need to question that in future :) 2010-11-24.txt:22:29:00: <elliott> perdito: i would avoid java like the plague :) 2010-11-24.txt:22:29:46: <perdito> well i did until now (once again please excuse, and feel free to correct my very poor english, but i see no better way to improve it than to use it :P) 2010-11-24.txt:22:30:14: <perdito> hope u get point 2010-11-24.txt:22:30:26: <Phantom_Hoover> perdito, we don't say the J-word in this channel. 2010-11-24.txt:22:32:58: <perdito> k 2010-11-24.txt:22:38:03: <perdito> most of the time i use c#, and as far as i know there is no big difference between java and c#.. had to time to find out sofar 2010-11-24.txt:22:38:13: <elliott> perdito: java has no anonymous functions 2010-11-24.txt:22:38:40: <perdito> and most of them.. its free ;) 2010-11-24.txt:22:39:35: <perdito> we do not need to discuss the differences now 2010-11-24.txt:22:39:52: <perdito> im sure you know them all ;) 2010-11-24.txt:22:42:21: <perdito> lets call it offtopic, but i'm surprised by the speed of this app running in my browser.. its based on openGL as far as i know 2010-11-24.txt:22:42:39: <elliott> perdito: Oh, are you on Classic? 2010-11-24.txt:22:42:51: <elliott> perdito: I suggest buying Alpha; it's much nicer (and you can run it outside of a browser, too.) 2010-11-24.txt:22:43:31: <perdito> so anyone worked with this lwjg lib mentioned? 2010-11-24.txt:22:44:43: <perdito> my self produced 3D engines sucked so far *g 2010-11-24.txt:22:44:50: <elliott> perdito: well 3D isn't easy :) 2010-11-24.txt:22:44:54: <Phantom_Hoover> perdito, make a non-Euclidean one. 2010-11-24.txt:22:45:01: <perdito> i had polygons with 3-4fps 2010-11-24.txt:22:45:13: <perdito> and i was very proud of it 2010-11-24.txt:22:45:25: <perdito> but i guess openGL is good stuff 2010-11-24.txt:22:46:42: <Phantom_Hoover> perdito, were they HYPERBOLIC polygons? 2010-11-24.txt:22:47:25: <perdito> it was just the wire.. not even filled :) 2010-11-24.txt:22:47:51: <perdito> the most primitive matrix-vector-stuff 2010-11-24.txt:22:48:06: <perdito> not even thinking of textures 2010-11-24.txt:22:57:45: <perdito> in best case the game itself has nothing to do with its view.. so viewing the states of the game is done by some sophisticated compiled and hardware-supporting software 2010-11-24.txt:23:09:00: <perdito> <Phantom_Hoover>perdito, make a non-Euclidean one. <-- thx for that hint 2010-11-24.txt:23:09:07: <perdito> sounds interesting ;) 2010-11-24.txt:23:09:13: <perdito> n8 Phantom_Hoover 2010-11-24.txt:23:10:02: <perdito> just reading an interesting article on that 2010-11-24.txt:23:10:03: <perdito> :) 2010-11-24.txt:23:12:13: <perdito> thanks to you, i know that there sth called "non-Euclidean" exists *g 2010-11-24.txt:23:12:20: <perdito> -there 2010-11-24.txt:23:14:39: <perdito> i see 2010-11-24.txt:23:15:07: <perdito> yes.. my math-leaks will never let me go 2010-11-24.txt:23:17:48: <perdito> eureka! 2010-11-24.txt:23:18:00: <perdito> thx anyway :P 2010-11-24.txt:23:18:53: <perdito> maybe tomorrow *g 2010-11-24.txt:23:19:01: <perdito> but i get the idea 2010-11-24.txt:23:20:16: <perdito> cu phantom 2010-11-25.txt:00:48:04: -!- perdito has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 2010-11-25.txt:02:20:35: -!- perdito has joined #esoteric. 2010-11-25.txt:11:26:03: -!- perdito has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 2010-11-25.txt:11:53:42: -!- perdito has joined #esoteric. 2010-11-25.txt:11:59:20: <perdito> hi kaasen 2010-11-25.txt:12:00:25: <perdito> hehe..always missing oerjan 2010-11-25.txt:12:00:46: <perdito> whoever he is..it gets kinda mystic 2010-11-25.txt:12:29:32: <perdito> magic? 2010-11-25.txt:12:29:46: <perdito> no.. a bad joke 2010-11-25.txt:17:49:18: -!- perdito has quit (Quit: perdito). 2010-11-25.txt:19:06:56: -!- perdito has joined #esoteric. 2010-11-25.txt:19:52:14: -!- perdito is now known as perdito|afk. 2010-11-25.txt:22:51:14: <perdito|afk> are different users..different process' in that view? 2010-11-25.txt:22:52:49: <perdito|afk> oh it's big.. *scroll 2010-11-25.txt:22:55:08: <elliott> perdito|afk: hum? 2010-11-25.txt:22:55:59: <perdito|afk> forget that question.. there's enough log to hand thath oneenoght 2010-11-26.txt:02:49:30: -!- perdito|afk has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 2010-11-26.txt:05:01:05: -!- perdito has joined #esoteric. 2010-11-26.txt:06:13:33: -!- perdito has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 2010-11-26.txt:09:12:21: -!- perdito has joined #esoteric. 2010-11-26.txt:09:14:34: <perdito> hail eris 2010-11-26.txt:09:14:55: * oerjan throws apples at perdito 2010-11-26.txt:09:15:10: <perdito> kallisti! 2010-11-26.txt:10:10:36: -!- perdito has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 2010-11-26.txt:10:58:30: -!- perdito has joined #esoteric. 2010-11-26.txt:13:52:18: -!- perdito has quit (*.net *.split). 2010-11-26.txt:13:53:34: -!- perdito has joined #esoteric. 2010-11-26.txt:14:51:06: -!- perdito has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 2010-11-30.txt:23:15:06: -!- perdito has joined #esoteric. 2010-11-30.txt:23:15:28: <perdito> hi folks 2010-12-01.txt:07:56:56: -!- perdito has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 2010-12-01.txt:10:05:53: -!- perdito has joined #esoteric. 2010-12-01.txt:16:37:17: -!- perdito has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 2010-12-01.txt:23:29:11: -!- perdito has joined #esoteric. 2010-12-02.txt:03:00:29: -!- perdito has quit (Quit: perdito). 2010-12-02.txt:03:09:06: -!- perdito has joined #esoteric. 2010-12-02.txt:06:59:01: -!- perdito has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 2010-12-02.txt:08:40:23: -!- perdito has joined #esoteric. 2010-12-02.txt:08:48:21: -!- perdito has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 2010-12-02.txt:10:52:31: -!- perdito has joined #esoteric. 2010-12-02.txt:11:12:44: <perdito> i luv this chan 2010-12-02.txt:11:12:49: <perdito> :) 2010-12-02.txt:11:18:54: <perdito> objects need properties to be identified, or even instanced as objets.. regarding to them as objects is the intellectual job, i think.. it's focussing on certain aspects of beeing.. and there is and infinite number of them out there 2010-12-02.txt:11:19:17: <perdito> so its hard work 2010-12-02.txt:11:19:24: <perdito> done while you're awake 2010-12-02.txt:11:20:00: <perdito> we are better artist,then we have thought, as master eckhard says 2010-12-02.txt:11:20:19: <perdito> we construct the world.. on the fly 2010-12-02.txt:11:22:00: <perdito> in our dreams, the doors of perception seem to open a little more 2010-12-02.txt:11:23:38: <oklopol> perdito: dunno about that, the way you think in dreams is the way you think when you're not really concentrated, except that you can send yourself sensory input, methinks. 2010-12-02.txt:11:23:50: <perdito> indeed! 2010-12-02.txt:11:24:23: <perdito> concentration = closing the doors of perception.. focusing.. filter the rest.. or even just identify and matter no more! 2010-12-02.txt:11:26:38: <oklopol> perdito: i find it a bit hard to follow your train of thought, and my meaningless poetry sensor starts beeping, no offense, i'm really trying :D 2010-12-02.txt:11:28:02: <perdito> sry.. my english prevents me to express myself clearer 2010-12-02.txt:11:28:13: <perdito> yes!! 2010-12-02.txt:11:28:23: <perdito> you got it :) 2010-12-02.txt:11:30:57: <perdito> concentration is not required to percept the world around us! ..even worse! it makes us filter out all the "useless" information out there.. the infinity 2010-12-02.txt:11:34:02: <perdito> amazing 2010-12-02.txt:11:34:03: <perdito> :) 2010-12-02.txt:11:34:17: <oklopol> "<perdito> concentration is not required to percept the world around us! ..even worse! it makes us filter out all the "useless" information out there.. the infinity" <<< i don't know what the infinity is, but yeah, this may be true, although i think it's a side-effect, not in any way inherently necessary for concentration 2010-12-02.txt:11:34:52: <perdito> as huxley said, we need both: 2010-12-02.txt:11:34:53: <perdito> work 2010-12-02.txt:11:34:56: <perdito> & love 2010-12-02.txt:11:35:19: <perdito> another analogy 2010-12-02.txt:11:35:35: <perdito> body & soul 2010-12-02.txt:11:35:42: <perdito> function & percept 2010-12-02.txt:11:37:12: <perdito> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Bergson#Creativity <-- interesting article 2010-12-02.txt:11:48:24: <perdito> remember good ol' operation mindfuck? 2010-12-02.txt:11:48:43: <perdito> wilsons theories on metaprogramming our minds 2010-12-02.txt:11:49:38: <perdito> cosmic trigger.. illuminatus.. schroedingers cat and so on.. a lotta beatiful and funny books to read 2010-12-02.txt:11:51:54: <perdito> dunn wheter there ever will be a way to create sth like artficial intuition, but im sure we wont without channels as this 2010-12-02.txt:11:52:19: <perdito> and lucid dreaming programmers like you oklopol :) 2010-12-02.txt:11:55:21: <perdito> but first i really need to do sth bout this english-leaks 2010-12-02.txt:11:59:50: <perdito> softwaredev. needs it all.. maths, physics, pschycholgy, philosphy ..and ..uh..even martial arts *g 2010-12-02.txt:12:00:45: <perdito> thanks 2 walls u can at least smash things on themt if they do not work as intended 2010-12-02.txt:12:00:50: <perdito> -->love 2010-12-02.txt:12:00:56: <perdito> remember 2010-12-02.txt:12:23:44: <perdito> awareness 2010-12-02.txt:12:34:06: <perdito> rofl 2010-12-02.txt:12:34:12: -!- perdito is now known as perdito|afk. 2010-12-02.txt:12:43:41: -!- perdito|afk has quit (Quit: perdito|afk). 2010-12-02.txt:13:19:22: <elliott> 03:59:50 <perdito> softwaredev. needs it all.. maths, physics, pschycholgy, philosphy ..and ..uh..even martial arts *g 2010-12-02.txt:13:22:27: <oerjan> elliott: shush, clearly perdito intends to start a new and glorious age of software development 2010-12-02.txt:13:49:11: -!- perdito|afk has joined #esoteric. 2010-12-02.txt:13:57:46: -!- perdito|afk has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 2010-12-02.txt:14:09:41: -!- perdito|afk has joined #esoteric. 2010-12-02.txt:14:16:10: -!- perdito|afk has quit (Quit: perdito|afk). 2010-12-02.txt:14:24:41: -!- perdito|afk has joined #esoteric. 2010-12-02.txt:14:26:35: -!- perdito|afk is now known as perdito. 2010-12-02.txt:14:28:29: -!- perdito is now known as perdito|afk. 2010-12-02.txt:14:32:47: -!- perdito|afk has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 2010-12-02.txt:15:01:47: -!- perdito|afk has joined #esoteric. 2010-12-02.txt:16:06:31: -!- perdito|afk has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 2010-12-02.txt:16:17:07: -!- perdito|afk has joined #esoteric. 2010-12-02.txt:22:03:36: -!- perdito|afk has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 2010-12-02.txt:23:26:29: -!- perdito|afk has joined #esoteric. 2010-12-02.txt:23:27:21: -!- perdito|afk is now known as perdito. 2010-12-03.txt:07:00:17: -!- perdito is now known as perdito|afk. 2010-12-03.txt:11:02:46: -!- perdito|afk has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 2010-12-03.txt:11:35:14: -!- perdito|afk has joined #esoteric. 2010-12-03.txt:12:40:22: -!- perdito|afk has quit (Quit: perdito|afk). 2010-12-03.txt:12:40:42: -!- perdito|afk has joined #esoteric. 2010-12-03.txt:13:18:31: -!- perdito|afk is now known as perdito. 2010-12-03.txt:20:03:12: -!- perdito has quit (Quit: perdito). 2010-12-03.txt:22:22:59: -!- perdito has joined #esoteric. 2010-12-04.txt:00:16:25: -!- perdito is now known as hagb4rd. 2013-02-20.txt:21:19:23: <shachaf> `pastelogs perdito