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| 1 2008-02-12.txt:21:37:52: <faxathisia> This is totally mad http://www.basis.uklinux.net/ursala/seminar111207.pdf | |
| 2 2008-02-12.txt:21:54:50: <ehird> faxathisia: oerjan: its called 'ursala' | |
| 3 2008-02-12.txt:21:56:24: <oerjan> ursAla? | |
| 4 2008-02-12.txt:22:19:11: * faxathisia *woops* http://www.basis.uklinux.net/ursala/seminar111207.pdf | |
| 5 2008-02-12.txt:22:46:32: <olsner> I'm starting to think haskell should grab some features from ursala | |
| 6 2008-02-12.txt:23:07:30: -!- SimonRC changed the topic of #esoteric to: HAT!! YOU'RE RUINING MY HAT! Also, http://www.basis.uklinux.net/ursala/manual.pdf | |
| 7 2008-02-12.txt:23:10:19: * olsner still learning ursala | |
| 8 2008-02-17.txt:15:38:29: <olsner> wow, ursala is really crazy | |
| 9 2008-03-07.txt:21:43:42: <SimonRC> have you read about ursala? | |
| 10 2008-03-07.txt:21:44:09: <SimonRC> http://www.basis.uklinux.net/ursala/ | |
| 11 2009-01-31.txt:18:15:13: <SimonRC> ehird: did Ursala inspire that much? | |
| 12 2010-01-11.txt:12:51:56: <ais523> hmm, I don't /think/ this is meant to be an esolang, but: http://www.basis.uklinux.net/ursala/sudoku.fun | |
| 13 2010-01-11.txt:13:09:56: <zeotrope> "Ursala (UniveRSal Applicative LAnguage) is a functional programming language suitable for scientific and numerical computation" | |
| 14 2010-01-11.txt:13:33:17: <ais523> *Ursala | |
| 15 2010-01-11.txt:13:47:24: <ais523> "Writing complicated pointer expressions can be error prone even for an experienced user of Ursala. Learning to read the decompiled listings can be a helpful troubleshooting technique." | |
| 16 2010-01-11.txt:13:53:36: <ais523> I'll need to write an Underload interp in Ursala some time, I think | |
| 17 2010-01-11.txt:15:37:29: <ehirdiphone> ais523: We have discussed and laughed at ursala before | |
| 18 2010-01-11.txt:15:39:54: <ais523> ehirdiphone: anyway, Ursala is actually a really interesting lang I think | |
| 19 2010-01-11.txt:15:41:59: <ehirdiphone> Oh ursala | |
| 20 2010-01-11.txt:15:42:00: <ais523> ehirdiphone: remember, I'm trying to learn Ursala | |
| 21 2010-01-11.txt:15:43:40: <ais523> hmm, I think Underlambda compiles into Ursala pretty neatly | |
| 22 2010-01-11.txt:15:45:04: <ais523> incidentally, H is an abstraction-inversion in Ursala | |
| 23 2010-01-11.txt:15:47:06: <ais523> <Ursala manual> A formal semantics for this operation is best left to compiler developers. | |
| 24 2010-01-11.txt:15:48:27: <ehirdiphone> composition is complicated in ursala? | |
| 25 2010-01-11.txt:15:56:58: <ehirdiphone> ais523: How powerful is ursalas type system? | |
| 26 2010-03-03.txt:15:55:15: <scarf> alise: please stop, you're going to accidentally invent Ursala | |
| 27 2010-03-03.txt:15:56:07: <AnMaster> <scarf> alise: please stop, you're going to accidentally invent Ursala <-- Ursala? | |
| 28 2010-03-03.txt:15:56:32: <MissPiggy> < AnMaster> <scarf> alise: please stop, you're going to accidentally invent Ursala <-- Ursala? <--- why does have to quote so much? | |
| 29 2010-03-03.txt:15:56:45: <alise> AnMaster: Eight Queens in Ursala: | |
| 30 2010-03-03.txt:15:57:08: <alise> AnMaster: So I think you should just forget about wanting to know anything about Ursala. | |
| 31 2010-03-03.txt:15:58:16: <scarf> alise and I have had endless fun laughing at Ursala | |
| 32 2010-03-03.txt:15:59:14: <alise> nothing like Ursala | |
| 33 2010-03-03.txt:15:59:27: <scarf> I'd say Ursala tries to imitate some J concepts but fails | |
| 34 2010-03-03.txt:15:59:53: <alise> AnMaster: no, ursala | |
| 35 2010-03-03.txt:16:01:11: <alise> AnMaster: http://www.basis.uklinux.net/ursala/manual.pdf, http://www.basis.uklinux.net/ursala/ | |
| 36 2010-03-03.txt:16:02:07: <MissPiggy> is ursala real? | |
| 37 2010-03-03.txt:16:02:17: <alise> AnMaster: the other part of ursala | |
| 38 2010-03-03.txt:16:03:03: <scarf> single quotes delimit variable names in Ursala, i.e. Ursala "x" is equivalent to Perl $x | |
| 39 2010-03-03.txt:16:04:58: <cpressey> I ASK YOU, is it a mere coincidence that BancSTAR was developed for the banking industry *and* the author or Ursala has a degree in finance? | |
| 40 2010-05-26.txt:16:55:55: <ais523> heh, Reddit noticed Ursala | |
| 41 2010-05-26.txt:17:06:02: <AnMaster> <ais523> heh, Reddit noticed Ursala <--- ? | |
| 42 2010-05-26.txt:17:06:54: <ais523> http://www.basis.uklinux.net/ursala/ | |
| 43 2010-05-26.txt:17:07:51: <ais523> <Deestan> Another important design goal of Ursala was to discourage "code obfuscation" techniques. This can be done elegantly by making sure that all syntactically valid programs are no more readable than their obfuscated counterparts. | |
| 44 2010-05-26.txt:17:21:46: <AnMaster> ais523, is that ursala open source? | |
| 45 2010-05-26.txt:17:22:21: <ais523> with ursala? | |
| 46 2010-05-26.txt:17:22:58: <ais523> in Ursala's VM, everything is written as just lists | |
| 47 2010-05-26.txt:17:23:53: <ais523> imagine that you have more complicated pointers like "both the first and second element of a pair"; that contradicts what I just said, but it's possible in Ursala too | |
| 48 2010-05-26.txt:17:26:50: <ais523> I am not an expert in Ursala | |
| 49 2010-09-05.txt:19:15:16: <alise> Ursala! | |
| 50 2010-09-05.txt:19:15:20: <alise> http://www.basis.uklinux.net/ursala/ | |
| 51 2010-09-05.txt:19:15:21: <cpressey> Ursala! | |
| 52 2010-09-05.txt:19:15:22: <ais523> aha, yes Ursala | |
| 53 2010-09-05.txt:19:18:09: <cpressey> http://www.basis.uklinux.net/ursala/queen.fun | |
| 54 2010-09-05.txt:23:01:59: <cpressey> alise_: I so want that to be an Ursala quine. | |
| 55 2010-09-07.txt:21:42:01: <cpressey> So I'm starting to accumulate a distinct set of languages that, despite them wanting me to take them seriously, make me laugh: Falcon, Ursala, and Plain English. BancSTAR might also qualify. This is almost enough to make a list. | |
| 56 2010-10-26.txt:01:14:51: <catseye> I gotta say Ursala. | |
| 57 2010-10-26.txt:01:16:12: <elliott> Vorpal: http://www.basis.netii.net/ursala/ | |
| 58 2010-10-26.txt:01:16:34: <elliott> Vorpal: The reference manual is beyond amazing: http://www.basis.netii.net/ursala/manual.pdf | |
| 59 2010-10-26.txt:01:23:17: <elliott> Vorpal: (or else isn't actually an ursala expression; dunno) | |
| 60 2010-10-26.txt:09:09:12: <ais523> I suppose you could go down the Ursala route | |
| 61 2010-10-26.txt:09:24:41: <ais523> Ursala's in the category of "unintentional esolangs", along with things like BancSTAR, and arguably Perl but that's much less extreme | |
| 62 2011-01-01.txt:02:33:17: <elliott> ursala | |
| 63 2011-01-01.txt:02:34:24: <elliott> Vorpal: http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=ursala+language&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&redir_esc=&ei=i5IeTeb1EpO6hAf074i3Dg#hl=en&client=safari&pwst=1&rls=en&sa=X&ei=i5IeTaaIGIyIhQfnvIS3Dg&ved=0CBUQvgUoAA&q=ursala+language&nfpr=1&fp=733b49addeb556 | |
| 64 2011-01-01.txt:02:36:11: <augur> elliott: why does ursala look like line noise? | |
| 65 2011-01-01.txt:02:36:19: <elliott> augur: ursala is terrible, do not discuss it | |
| 66 2011-01-01.txt:02:37:32: <augur> oh jesus you're right about ursala | |
| 67 2011-01-18.txt:15:50:15: <elliott> ais523: this is disturbingly close to Ursala actually :) | |
| 68 2011-01-18.txt:15:51:57: <elliott> http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Category:Ursala i blame ais523 | |
| 69 2011-01-18.txt:15:52:21: <ais523> Ursala's fun to laugh at at a distance | |
| 70 2011-01-18.txt:15:52:57: <elliott> ais523: sometimes, I worry that languages like Ursala are actually more brilliant than all of us ... then I wake up the next day, sober | |
| 71 2011-01-18.txt:15:53:17: <elliott> http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Y_combinator#Ursala | |
| 72 2011-01-18.txt:15:54:00: <ais523> oh right, I forgot that ursala used double-quotes for lambda variables | |
| 73 2011-01-18.txt:15:55:26: <ais523> why does Ursala let you hot-swap fixed-point implementations for use in compiling recursive functions? | |
| 74 2011-01-18.txt:15:56:37: <ais523> hmm, TIL that Ursala "x". means the same thing as Haskell \x -> | |
| 75 2011-01-18.txt:15:57:54: <ais523> which worryingly implies that Ursala functions don't work quite the same way as mathematical ones | |
| 76 2011-01-18.txt:16:04:34: <ais523> elliott: gah no, putting lambda variables in double quotes is an Ursala thing | |
| 77 2011-01-18.txt:17:21:14: <ais523> elliott: I just tried to interpret that hash as Ursala | |
| 78 2011-01-18.txt:17:21:26: <ais523> and failed, mostly because I don't know Ursala well enough | |
| 79 2011-01-31.txt:11:02:54: <ais523> oerjan: I think it's what Ursala does behind the scenes | |
| 80 2011-01-31.txt:11:03:10: <ais523> and OK, Ursala's not technically an esolang, but it's still hilarious | |
| 81 2011-01-31.txt:19:16:36: <elliott> ais523: i was INSPIRED by ursala | |
| 82 2011-01-31.txt:19:17:21: <elliott> you know how at the base of ursala, every object is | |
| 83 2011-01-31.txt:19:19:30: <elliott> 11:17:19 <ais523> oerjan: I think it's what Ursala does behind the scenes | |
| 84 2011-01-31.txt:19:22:17: <elliott> ais523: how does ursala do naturals? in mine, a list of N []s is N | |
| 85 2011-01-31.txt:19:40:50: <elliott> ais523: anyway, I finally understand why ursala requires those explicit casts | |
| 86 2011-01-31.txt:19:47:10: <elliott> ais523: I don't understand this, do Ursala functions not compile to the basic object type? | |
| 87 2011-01-31.txt:19:48:28: <ais523> that Ursala quote has offended me slightly | |
| 88 2011-01-31.txt:19:48:36: <elliott> <elliott> ais523: I don't understand this, do Ursala functions not compile to the basic object type? | |
| 89 2011-02-01.txt:01:23:09: <elliott> i only code in ursala, true story | |
| 90 2011-02-01.txt:01:24:41: <kfr> "Ursala is an interpreted functional language with some experimental features, intended mainly for text and numerical applications. " | |
| 91 2011-02-01.txt:01:25:10: <elliott> ursala is the most fun crazy | |
| 92 2011-02-01.txt:02:04:05: <elliott> i should actually write a program in ursala sometime :P | |
| 93 2011-02-02.txt:16:06:00: <elliott> nddrylliog: you should get interested in ursala! instant guaranteed obscurity | |
| 94 2011-02-02.txt:16:06:49: <elliott> nddrylliog: http://www.basis.netii.net/ursala/manual.pdf | |
| 95 2011-02-02.txt:16:07:00: <elliott> ais523 is our resident Ursala know-it-all* fan* | |
| 96 2011-03-10.txt:14:36:08: <elliott> I'm thinking maybe Ursala | |
| 97 2011-03-10.txt:14:45:49: <ais523> although I imagine it'd be relatively simple in Ursala, actually | |
| 98 2011-03-10.txt:14:45:53: <ais523> that is, compared to the rest of Ursala | |
| 99 2011-03-10.txt:14:46:12: <elliott> can ursala even do networking? | |
| 100 2011-03-27.txt:04:33:50: <elliott> http://www.basis.netii.net/ursala/links.html | |
| 101 2011-03-27.txt:04:33:54: <elliott> ursala's links page links to esolang | |
| 102 2011-09-01.txt:01:57:28: <ais523> hmm, this is reminding me of Ursala | |
| 103 2011-09-01.txt:01:57:47: <CPO\_\bot> ais523: I still think Ursala was actually really interesting | |
| 104 2011-11-05.txt:17:54:59: <ais523> (and if you go down the other route, you seem to end up with Ursala) | |
| 105 2011-11-05.txt:17:55:23: <elliott> ais523: Ursala has types, sort of :P | |
| 106 2011-11-17.txt:14:00:19: <elliott> ais523: what's the recommended cure if you start thinking about how wonderful ursala's data model is? | |
| 107 2011-12-28.txt:20:05:56: <ais523> like Ursala | |
| 108 2011-12-31.txt:23:29:35: <oerjan> haskela, the monstrous child of haskell and ursala | |
| 109 2011-12-31.txt:23:29:53: * Sgeo suddenly remembers that Ursala exists. | |
| 110 2012-01-12.txt:08:45:15: <elliott> ursala? :P | |
| 111 2012-01-12.txt:08:49:12: <ais523> it's probably only a couple of characters in ursala | |
| 112 2012-01-12.txt:08:49:23: <ais523> and only hard to write, because doing so would actually require learning ursala | |
| 113 2012-01-12.txt:08:58:49: <elliott> monqy: http://web.archive.org/web/20090113084759/http://www.basis.uklinux.net/ursala/ | |
| 114 2012-01-12.txt:08:59:01: <elliott> http://web.archive.org/web/20080704174715/http://www.basis.uklinux.net/ursala/manual.pdf doesn't load :( | |
| 115 2012-01-12.txt:19:36:12: <olsner> and ursala! | |
| 116 2012-02-24.txt:15:21:39: <ais523> # type ursala = 'a list as 'a ;; | |
| 117 2012-02-24.txt:15:21:40: <ais523> type ursala = 'a list as 'a | |
| 118 2012-11-24.txt:13:00:55: <monqy> elliott: ive seen "both" in ursala but in haskell it is new to me ! | |
| 119 2012-11-24.txt:13:01:02: <monqy> except in ursala it is just b | |
| 120 2012-11-24.txt:13:01:31: <elliott> monqy: but in ursala can you use it to map over both elements | |
| 121 2012-11-24.txt:13:01:52: <elliott> you know ursala? | |
| 122 2012-11-24.txt:13:02:23: <monqy> but ursala | |
| 123 2012-11-24.txt:13:02:35: <shachaf> can ursala compute the sum of a string | |
| 124 2012-11-24.txt:13:13:00: <shachaf> monqy: What's ursala? | |
| 125 2012-11-24.txt:13:15:09: <monqy> shachaf: you should learn ursala! | |
| 126 2012-11-24.txt:13:16:21: <elliott> monqy: sounds less fun than ursala. you should read the manual some more instead | |
| 127 2012-12-08.txt:16:47:05: <olsner> and Ursala, though it claims to be a non-esoteric language | |
| 128 2012-12-08.txt:16:54:55: <elliott> olsner: i love ursala | |
| 129 2012-12-08.txt:16:56:48: <Taneb> I thought Ursala was a disney character | |
| 130 2012-12-08.txt:16:57:29: <olsner> https://github.com/gueststar/Ursala/blob/master/contrib/sudoku.fun | |
| 131 2012-12-08.txt:17:05:34: <elliott> monqy knows a fair amount of ursala | |
| 132 2012-12-08.txt:18:21:01: <olsner> lenses remind me of ursala's pointer expressions | |
| 133 2012-12-09.txt:00:55:06: <olsner> I think lens is missing a way to translate ursala pointer expressions into their corresponding lenses | |
| 134 2013-02-23.txt:11:56:18: <monqy> i'm getting some ursala-but-taking-itself-less-seriously vibes from some of this "about" stuff | |
| 135 2013-02-23.txt:11:57:05: <monqy> remember when i learned some ursala and never bothered to learn the rest? i forgot it all. probably easy to relearn. not going to bother | |
| 136 2013-02-23.txt:11:58:04: <shachaf> wait what's ursala | |
| 137 2013-02-23.txt:12:00:01: <monqy> i dont think its possible to dislike ursala | |
| 138 2013-02-23.txt:12:00:59: <monqy> https://github.com/gueststar/Ursala/ / https://gitorious.org/ursala-manual | |
| 139 2013-02-23.txt:12:02:06: <monqy> https://github.com/gueststar/Ursala/tree/master/contrib code examples!! | |
| 140 2013-02-23.txt:12:05:24: <monqy> i suggest learning ursala as your next language | |
| 141 2013-02-23.txt:12:21:03: <mroman> that's ursala. | |
| 142 2013-02-25.txt:14:55:48: <boily> the more I see you all playing with burlesque, the more it reminds me of ursala: lists and numbers and cryptic tense manipulations on them. | |
| 143 2013-02-25.txt:20:17:56: <monqy> this is reminding me of ursala | |
| 144 2013-02-25.txt:20:18:03: <monqy> hey Sgeo_ did you ever look at ursala | |
| 145 2013-03-20.txt:01:15:54: <monqy> wow freefull you know ursala too?? | |
| 146 2013-03-25.txt:20:44:29: <olsner> not quite as much as ursala programs though | |
| 147 2013-08-01.txt:19:05:31: <olsner> boily: also, have you looked at ursala? |