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1 2005-05-25.txt:19:15:32: <pgimeno> I'm interested in whether Smetana can be done Turing-complete
2 2005-05-25.txt:19:28:47: * pgimeno considers taking out smetana from the non-Turing-complete category
3 2005-06-02.txt:21:01:17: <cpressey> smetana is NOT turing complete!
4 2005-06-04.txt:19:26:54: <graue> of course, SMETANA and Befunge-93 are not Turing-complete, but still interesting
5 2005-06-04.txt:21:22:44: <pgimeno> I'm somewhat puzzled... if an algorithm is required to stop, and a Turing machine is required to run an algorithm, and a SMETANA program can implement any algorithm... how come SMETANA is not Turing-complete?
6 2005-09-18.txt:00:01:50: <ihope> Heh. If an expansion instruction were added to SMETATA or SMATINY, would that language become Turing-complete?
7 2006-11-22.txt:05:27:14: <Razor-X> You can also be adventerous and implement Lambda Calculus in Lisp. You'll quickly see that, this way of dealing with Lisp is to Church's computational metaphor as BF is to Turing's computational method.
8 2006-12-28.txt:05:05:31: <RodgerTheGreat> bonus points for creating a meta-protocol whose semantics themselves constitute a turing-complete system
9 2007-07-03.txt:22:19:07: <lament> oklopol: under this description, SMETANA is turing-complete too
10 2007-10-30.txt:19:36:23: <lament> i'm pretty sure that makes SMETANA turing-complete as well
11 2007-10-30.txt:19:39:49: <lament> but if that's allowed, then SMETANA should be turing-complete
12 2007-10-30.txt:23:41:16: <oerjan> <lament> i'm pretty sure that makes SMETANA turing-complete as well
13 2007-10-31.txt:00:11:48: <lament> oerjan: if smetana+1 compacts the infinite smetana program to finite size, then it's obviously turing-complete
14 2007-10-31.txt:00:12:43: <lament> oerjan: the question is whether we can consider smetana to be turing-complete, despite infinitely large programs
15 2007-11-02.txt:03:20:00: <lament> in that case smetana is turing-complete
16 2007-11-02.txt:03:41:28: <lament> cpressey: so a language just like smetana but allowing infinitely long programs is 1) turing complete 2) capable of being interpreted by, for example, CA, since they allow the entire smetana program to be given as starting conditions
17 2007-12-09.txt:18:38:15: <Slereah> For some metatheorems, I had to read about Turing machines and such!
18 2009-02-09.txt:15:34:27: <ehird> <lament> if we allow "non-repetitive infinite initial conditions" <lament> i'm pretty sure that makes SMETANA turing-complete as well<lament> it would be a very simple structure, it has a "head" and then a "tail" consisting of identical pieces of code with different numbers (trivially generated by any process)
19 2009-02-09.txt:19:22:07: <oerjan> <ehird> <lament> if we allow "non-repetitive infinite initial conditions" <lament> i'm pretty sure that makes SMETANA turing-complete as well<lament> it would be a very simple structure, it has a "head" and then a "tail" consisting of identical pieces of code with different numbers (trivially generated by any process)
20 2010-07-04.txt:12:43:58: <alise> A self-modifying language; the language is defined in terms of a meta-circular interpreter, and this meta-circular interpreter provides an operation that redefines operations of the meta-circular interpreter. In fact, this mechanism is required for Emmental to be Turing-complete.
21 2011-06-24.txt:20:46:16: <elliott_> http://esolangs.org/wiki/Meta_Turing-complete
22 2011-06-24.txt:20:48:25: * elliott_ creates [[Talk:Meta Turing-complete]]
23 2011-06-24.txt:21:01:54: <elliott_> Meta Turing-complete
24 2011-06-24.txt:21:02:00: <monqy> Meta Turing-complete
25 2011-06-24.txt:21:03:27: <oerjan> i never meta turing. he died before i was born.
26 2011-06-24.txt:21:05:25: <monqy> Some super-Turing-complete languages are able to do anything (see Compute/IO), so they are super fully meta Turing-complete.
27 2011-06-24.txt:21:05:28: <elliott_> `addquote <oerjan> i never meta turing. he died before i was born.
28 2011-06-24.txt:21:05:29: <HackEgo> 468) <oerjan> i never meta turing. he died before i was born.
29 2011-06-24.txt:21:07:21: <oerjan> fun fun super meta turing-complete
30 2011-06-24.txt:21:07:40: <monqy> super duper meta cool turing-complete
31 2011-06-24.txt:22:52:50: <elliott> oerjan: can you delete that and the meta turing completeness page
32 2011-06-24.txt:22:54:37: <elliott> `addquote <elliott> oerjan: can you delete that and the meta turing completeness page <elliott> thanks <oerjan> elliott: IN UNIVERSO ALTERNATIVO, OERJAN PAGINAS DELET
33 2011-06-24.txt:22:54:39: <HackEgo> 469) <elliott> oerjan: can you delete that and the meta turing completeness page <elliott> thanks <oerjan> elliott: IN UNIVERSO ALTERNATIVO, OERJAN PAGINAS DELET
34 2011-06-24.txt:22:58:37: <Sgeo> elliott, was I ever as bad as Checkmate or the Meta-turing-complete person?
35 2011-06-25.txt:09:58:38: <elliott> (diff) (hist) . . Talk:Meta Turing-complete‎; 07:51 . . (+491) . . TehZ (Talk | contribs)
36 2011-06-25.txt:09:59:19: <elliott> http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:Meta_Turing-complete
37 2011-06-25.txt:18:34:21: <elliott> (diff) (hist) . . Talk:Meta Turing-complete‎; 14:48 . . (+688) . . TehZ (Talk | contribs)
38 2011-06-25.txt:18:34:43: <monqy> [[Talk: Meta Turing-complete]] is awful
39 2011-07-07.txt:05:07:12: <HackEgo> 100) <Slereah> I can do everything a Turing machine can do, except love \ 146) <coppro> we'd care about a turing-complete pencil \ 274) <oklopol> ah yes, indeed, alan turing was gay and stupid \ 468) <oerjan> i never meta turing. he died before i was born. \ 469) <elliott> oerjan: can you delete that and the meta turing
40 2011-07-07.txt:05:07:55: <HackEgo> 333) <Phantom_Hoover> Oh god. <Phantom_Hoover> I've become a metallurgy hipster. <Phantom_Hoover> Iridium is way too mainstream. \ 410) <Sgeo> I was more of a pervert in Metaplace than Utherverse <Sgeo> I invented Metaplace sex >.> \ 468) <oerjan> i never meta turing. he died before i was born. \ 469) <elliott> oerjan:
41 2011-07-14.txt:07:43:47: <elliott> meta-turing-complete, too!
42 2011-07-14.txt:07:44:04: <Vorpal> meta-turing-complete?
43 2011-07-14.txt:07:44:45: <elliott> http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:Meta_Turing-complete
44 2011-10-19.txt:19:18:48: <HackEgo> 449) <oerjan> i never meta turing. he died before i was born.
45 2012-03-05.txt:20:23:59: <Taneb> Is ℒ meta-turing complete?
46 2012-03-05.txt:20:45:33: <Taneb> http://esolangs.org/wiki/Meta_Turing-complete
47 2012-03-05.txt:20:50:03: <Taneb> Not quite, but Meta Turing-Complete is a superset of Fancy L?
48 2012-03-05.txt:20:50:20: <olsner> meta turing complete looks like nonsense to me
49 2012-03-05.txt:21:14:52: <olsner> Taneb: you mean the META-GHOST of ALAN META-TURING?
50 2012-03-06.txt:16:08:19: <elliott> 20:45:33: <Taneb> http://esolangs.org/wiki/Meta_Turing-complete
51 2012-03-06.txt:16:08:33: <elliott> @tell Friendship "Meta Turing-complete" is just some badly-defined bullshit TehZ made up.
52 2012-06-16.txt:16:44:43: <HackEgo> 403) <oerjan> i never meta turing. he died before i was born.
53 2012-11-22.txt:21:35:26: <HackEgo> 391) <elliott> oerjan: can you delete that and the meta turing completeness page <elliott> thanks <oerjan> elliott: IN UNIVERSO ALTERNATIVO, OERJAN PAGINAS DELET
54 2012-12-12.txt:09:42:32: <HackEgo> 375) <elliott> oerjan: can you delete that and the meta turing completeness page <elliott> thanks <oerjan> elliott: IN UNIVERSO ALTERNATIVO, OERJAN PAGINAS DELET
55 2012-12-26.txt:16:06:07: <HackEgo> 22) IN EINEM ALTERNATIVEN UNIVERSUM (WO DIE NAZIS WON): <ehird> So kann ich nur schliessen, dass es falsch ist, oder die Welt ist vollig BONKERS. Gegrusset seist du der Fuhrer Hitler! \ 373) <elliott> oerjan: can you delete that and the meta turing completeness page <elliott> thanks <oerjan> elliott: IN UNIVERSO ALTERNATIVO, OERJAN PAGINAS DELET
56 2012-12-26.txt:16:10:44: <HackEgo> 373) <elliott> oerjan: can you delete that and the meta turing completeness page <elliott> thanks <oerjan> elliott: IN UNIVERSO ALTERNATIVO, OERJAN PAGINAS DELET \ 22) IN EINEM ALTERNATIVEN UNIVERSUM (WO DIE NAZIS WON): <ehird> So kann ich nur schliessen, dass es falsch ist, oder die Welt ist vollig BONKERS. Gegrusset seist du der Fuhrer Hitler!
57 2013-01-04.txt:07:28:47: <monqy> hey remember http://esolangs.org/wiki/Meta_Turing-complete heh heh heh
58 2013-01-04.txt:18:41:38: <Bicycle> i suppose someone somewhere has analyzed the meta-powerrrrr of various turing formalisms based on kindshit
59 2013-01-06.txt:20:30:31: <HackEgo> 230) <oerjan> <Gregor> oerjan: Tell us what (a(b{c}d)*2e)%2 expands to <-- ababcdbcdedbabcdbcdede, i think <Gregor> oerjan: What - the - fuck \ 371) <oerjan> i never meta turing. he died before i was born. \ 15) <fungot> oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me g
60 2013-01-23.txt:19:49:51: <HackEgo> 373) <elliott> oerjan: can you delete that and the meta turing completeness page <elliott> thanks <oerjan> elliott: IN UNIVERSO ALTERNATIVO, OERJAN PAGINAS DELET
61 2013-02-02.txt:21:50:34: <Phantom_Hoover> `quote metaturing
62 2013-02-02.txt:21:51:43: <oerjan> `run echo "This wisdom entry was crushed by a falling anvil." >wisdom/metaturing
63 2013-02-02.txt:21:52:17: <Phantom_Hoover> `? metaturing
64 2013-02-02.txt:21:54:13: <oerjan> assuming i understand http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/23c726e07478/wisdom/metaturing
65 2013-02-02.txt:21:56:37: <Applejacques> `run hg export 0:tip | grep -i metaturing
66 2013-02-08.txt:07:18:40: <monqy> how about featuring the meta turing completeness page
67 2013-03-08.txt:21:14:16: <monqy> nooodl: tehz is also 'infamous' for http://esolangs.org/wiki/Meta_Turing-complete
68 2013-04-14.txt:01:20:58: <elliott> Lou Reed never performed Metal Machine Music onstage until March, 2002, when he collaborated with an avant-garde classical ensemble at the MaerzMusik festival in Berlin, Germany. The 10-member group Zeitkratzer performed the original album with Reed in a new arrangement featuring classical string, wind, piano, and accordion.[11]
69 2013-06-12.txt:01:46:41: <Phantom_Hoover> oerjan's metaturing quote isn't in the quotes?
70 2013-06-12.txt:01:46:46: <Phantom_Hoover> `pastlog metaturing
71 2013-06-12.txt:01:47:33: <elliott> `pastlog meta-turing
72 2013-06-12.txt:01:47:42: <HackEgo> 2011-07-14.txt:07:43:47: <elliott> meta-turing-complete, too!
73 2013-06-12.txt:01:48:01: <Phantom_Hoover> `pastelog meta-turing
74 2013-06-12.txt:01:49:15: <oerjan> `pastlogs meta.*turing
75 2013-06-12.txt:01:49:22: <oerjan> `pastelogs meta.*turing