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<int-e> le//rn schwartzian//In 1987, Yogurt introduced a better way to rank Schwartz users: Rather than holding an annual tournament, users would take a series of standardized tests adminstered by official Schwartz centers, and would then be ranked according to the results. This lead to the Schwartzian transform because it allowed many more users to be ranked.
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232 2003-01-21.txt:10:15:27: <dbc>
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233 2003-01-21.txt:10:15:29: <dbc> Okay.
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234 2003-01-21.txt:10:17:58: <dbc> (Actually that probably needs, at the least, a change of font to look good...)
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235 2003-01-21.txt:10:18:31: <lament> font?
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236 2003-01-21.txt:10:18:37: <lament> you don't know what font i'm using :)
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237 2003-01-21.txt:10:19:14: <dbc> Are you using one as wide as it is high?
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238 2003-01-21.txt:10:19:24: <lament> no.
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239 2003-01-21.txt:10:19:57: <lament> what fractal is that, anyway?
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240 2003-01-21.txt:10:20:02: <dbc> I had suspected not. People don't usually. Still I left the "probably" there as a weasel word.
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241 2003-01-21.txt:10:20:46: <dbc> That's the result of a Fredkin rule cellular automaton (one that sets each cell to the parity of its neighbors)...
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242 2003-01-21.txt:10:21:34: <lament> how's it a fractal?
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243 2003-01-21.txt:10:21:40: <dbc> eight neighbors, starting condition only one cell turned on...this is I think after 32 iterations.
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244 2003-01-21.txt:10:22:19: <lament> hm, there doesn't seem to be a mandelbrot generator in brainfuck
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245 2003-01-21.txt:10:22:22: <lament> i should fix that
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246 2003-01-21.txt:10:23:18: <dbc> Well, it can also be constructed like the koch snowflake etc, by repeatedly replacing a certain pattern of lines with another one...
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247 2003-01-21.txt:10:23:34: <dbc> though the parts come out at different speeds with that method.
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248 2003-01-21.txt:10:32:28: <dbc> Good luck on that project, anyway...
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249 2003-01-21.txt:10:34:04: <lament> it should be easy
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250 2003-01-21.txt:10:34:07: <lament> or maybe not
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251 2003-01-21.txt:10:38:47: <lament> besides, i have a magic brainfuck preprocessor
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252 2003-01-21.txt:10:38:54: <dbc> Oh christ.
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253 2003-01-21.txt:10:40:28: <lament> all i need is a good representation for fractional numbers.
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254 2003-01-21.txt:10:43:58: <lament> hahahahahaa
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255 2003-01-21.txt:10:44:06: <lament> i searched google for 'imaginary numbers'
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256 2003-01-21.txt:10:44:21: <lament> the very first result is some page in the university of toronto
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257 2003-01-21.txt:10:44:27: <lament> 'Do "Imaginary Numbers" Really Exist?'
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258 2003-01-21.txt:10:44:39: <lament> and they give a long answer to that
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259 2003-01-21.txt:10:44:48: <lament> which includes "Imaginary numbers do exist."
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260 2003-01-21.txt:10:45:04: <lament> Jesus christ, it's the leading canadian university
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261 2003-01-21.txt:10:45:12: <lament> And they're saying imaginary numbers exist :\
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262 2003-01-21.txt:10:46:00: <lament> and they're using an extremely broken argument to prove their 'existance'
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263 2003-01-21.txt:11:00:42: <dbc> I'm not sure the question is even well-defined.
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264 2003-01-21.txt:11:01:29: <lament> I would be terrified to find out numbers actually existed.
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265 2003-01-21.txt:11:01:41: <dbc> Why? They don't have teeth.
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266 2003-01-21.txt:11:01:51: <lament> dbc: only because they don't exist!
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267 2003-01-21.txt:11:01:57: <dbc> :)
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268 2003-01-21.txt:11:02:53: <lament> Stupid fractional numbers.
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269 2003-01-21.txt:11:03:29: <dbc> You can keep them as numerator and denominator, no?
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270 2003-01-21.txt:11:03:31: <lament> They don't exist either, but they sure are stupid.
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271 2003-01-21.txt:11:03:50: <lament> I can, I guess.
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272 2003-01-21.txt:11:04:44: <lament> problematic on 8-bit brainfuck machines.
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273 2003-01-21.txt:11:05:15: <dbc> well, you can keep both numerator and denominator as strings of binary or decimal digits, one per cell. Probably faster anyway.
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274 2003-01-21.txt:11:06:17: <lament> I think I just suck at brainfuck.
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275 2003-01-21.txt:11:07:25: <dbc> Oh. That would be unfortunate.
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276 2003-01-21.txt:11:07:45: <dbc> Does brainfuck exist?
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277 2003-01-21.txt:11:09:15: <lament> no, but it seems to have teeth anyway.
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278 2003-01-21.txt:11:13:36: <dbc> *8)#
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279 2003-01-21.txt:11:13:59: <lament> that looks like a Dr. Seuss character.
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280 2003-01-21.txt:11:14:25: <dbc> Self-portrait. There's another on my web page now.
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281 2003-01-21.txt:11:15:10: <lament> You look like a Dr. Seuss character? Cool
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282 2003-01-21.txt:11:15:39: <dbc> (which is the 22nd google response for "brainfuck")
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283 2003-01-21.txt:11:16:28: <dbc> (must depart)
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284 2003-01-21.txt:11:16:31: <dbc> (see you)
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285 2003-01-21.txt:11:18:08: <lament> goodbye.
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286 2003-01-21.txt:11:23:29: <fizzie> according to googlism, 'brainfuck is not sexy', 'brainfuck is the ultimate sexual experience', 'brainfuck is too obviously evil', 'brainfuck is too obviously evil' and 'brainfuck is now'.
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287 2003-01-21.txt:11:23:51: <lament> googlism?
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288 2003-01-21.txt:11:28:10: <fizzie> googlism.com, which has recently acquired annoying popups. you give it a word or two, and it searches google and returns 'foo is bar'-style sentences.
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289 2003-01-21.txt:11:28:40: <fizzie> according to googlism, I personally am "60 mm in diameter and each weighs over 5 oz"
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290 2003-01-21.txt:11:32:34: <lament> Amazing.
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291 2003-01-21.txt:11:32:36: <lament> "lament is the cheat and a dirty bastard"
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292 2003-01-21.txt:11:33:09: <lament> "lament is that we put undergraduates through three years of lecture"
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293 2003-01-21.txt:11:33:37: <lament> "brainfuck is better than"
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294 2003-01-21.txt:11:33:43: <lament> heh.
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295 2003-01-21.txt:11:58:51: <dbc> Have a look at the responses for "bush".
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296 2003-01-21.txt:11:59:09: <lament> hmm, i can imagine
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297 2003-01-21.txt:11:59:28: <dbc> bush is engaged in feverish diplomacy to stop an india
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299 2003-01-21.txt:12:00:11: <lament> I like how the first 4 responses are inflammatory.
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