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1 2003-01-30.txt:06:02:45: <SamB> doesn't more esoteric programming discussion happen in #Python then here?
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2 2003-07-29.txt:18:40:10: <lament> Well, I guess python has it too
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3 2003-07-29.txt:22:20:52: <Taaus> Hmm... No longer using #python on Efnet? :)
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4 2003-07-29.txt:22:46:59: <lament> By the way i think it should be trivial to compile loell to python
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5 2003-07-29.txt:23:39:48: <lament> In python!
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6 2003-07-29.txt:23:41:27: <lament> Compiling it to python? Of course not.
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7 2003-07-29.txt:23:41:35: <lament> Python already can do everything loell does.
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8 2003-07-29.txt:23:41:49: <Taaus> Ehm... Who said anything about compiling to Python? I certainly didn't.
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9 2003-07-29.txt:23:42:22: <lament> python
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10 2003-07-29.txt:23:56:13: <lament> Usually something which Python doesn't lack.
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11 2003-07-30.txt:00:05:22: <lament> You can think of Ruby as a mix of Perl and Smalltalk, or look at it as Python with full object-orientation.
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12 2003-07-30.txt:00:06:58: <lament> the python bit
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13 2003-07-30.txt:00:28:36: <lament> yay, attacking #python people
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14 2003-07-31.txt:17:57:16: <lament> We've always felt that Python's OO features has a distinctly "bolted-on" feel,
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15 2003-08-16.txt:20:49:53: <Taaus> Indubitably. And Python programmers as well.
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16 2003-09-05.txt:06:21:57: <lament> gah #python
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17 2003-09-09.txt:01:41:49: <Verbed> It's a variation of Supybot, written in Python.
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18 2003-09-09.txt:01:42:31: <Verbed> With some supporting Python code to access the awaken 4.1MB database.
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19 2003-10-21.txt:00:49:40: <andreou> well, you could do it in python...
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20 2003-10-21.txt:00:49:55: <calamari_> does python have a c-like syntax?
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21 2003-11-05.txt:03:13:05: -!- lament has quit ("smoking python").
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22 2004-01-26.txt:23:49:14: <lament> (learning python and having to use any other programming language)
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23 2004-02-11.txt:00:15:33: <lament> python
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24 2004-04-30.txt:07:46:46: <lament> In the kids' programming channels (#c, #python), esoteric languages do get mentioned from time to time
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25 2004-05-01.txt:03:58:09: <heatsink> Here's some help: use python instead :)
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26 2004-05-13.txt:08:07:42: -!- lament has quit ("PYTHON SUCKS").
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27 2004-06-10.txt:22:24:44: <lament> took me 53 lines of Python code!
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28 2004-06-11.txt:18:59:22: <lament> my 72-line python program optimizes +-<> sequences.
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29 2004-06-11.txt:22:35:07: <fizzie> just write some python code to do it.
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30 2004-06-11.txt:22:35:17: <fizzie> I hear python makes the impossible possible.
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31 2004-07-02.txt:06:45:36: * heatsink says in a Monty Python voice, "I can't read this!"
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32 2004-08-05.txt:04:54:41: <LinkMasterSab> It's in Python.
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33 2004-08-05.txt:04:54:56: <lament> labeled "brainfuck interpreters in Python"
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34 2004-08-05.txt:19:05:14: <Joey[code]> python
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35 2004-08-05.txt:19:06:12: <fizzie> python has a silly indentation-sensitive syntax.
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36 2004-08-05.txt:20:47:52: <fizzie> wait a minute.. are you an evil pythonista?
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37 2004-08-05.txt:20:50:18: <fizzie> but #scheme said never to trust a pythonista.
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38 2004-08-06.txt:03:46:49: <LinkMasterSab> I'm making a Python script that applys HTML snippets into HTT's. It's stupid.
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39 2004-08-12.txt:01:38:10: <LinkMasterSab> Yet Another Python Parser
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40 2004-11-14.txt:05:16:55: <heatsink> what's wrong with python?
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41 2004-11-14.txt:05:18:20: <calamari_> one thing I miss, which is kind of weird.. is not having types in python. Makes it harder to see what something is, because usually a type can be syntax highlighted
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42 2004-11-14.txt:05:19:13: <heatsink> all python objects are the same type, it's just the default implementations of most methods raise errors :)
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43 2004-12-14.txt:06:52:46: <heatsink> why can't you shoot self in foot with python or haskell?
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44 2004-12-18.txt:01:42:48: <heatsink> I hope by the time it gets to Aaaaargh!, it's in python.
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45 2004-12-18.txt:02:00:02: <heatsink> But the name comes from a Monty Python movie
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46 2005-05-01.txt:16:14:15: <pgimeno> I've so far written a Malbolge debugger in Python and a cat program in Malbolge which does not stop on EOF - if someone's interested I can post it on the web
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47 2005-05-11.txt:23:06:58: <kipple> it probably has a python interpreter...
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48 2005-05-11.txt:23:11:18: <kipple> does the file start with a line like #!/bin/python or something
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49 2005-05-12.txt:10:38:22: * pgimeno ponders whether to write an ORK interpreter in either JavaScript, PHP or Python
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50 2005-05-12.txt:10:38:38: <lament> normally i'd say python
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51 2005-05-17.txt:23:23:59: <pgimeno> at some time I'll write that JS or Python ORK interpreter...
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52 2005-05-17.txt:23:25:34: <GregorR> No offense to your pythonin' or Javascriptin' abilities of course.
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53 2005-05-18.txt:21:16:42: <pgimeno> any python expert around?
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54 2005-05-18.txt:21:19:32: <pgimeno> -lilo/Wallops- Right now, I think the python help would be the priority. If you're interested in talking about it, feel free to message me. Thanks.
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55 2005-05-18.txt:21:20:02: <pgimeno> I'm too new to Python
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56 2005-05-22.txt:01:07:57: <GregorR> MoinMoin is Python.
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57 2005-05-22.txt:01:08:02: <GregorR> Gregor doesn't do Python.
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58 2005-05-22.txt:01:08:42: <calamari_> I do Python
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59 2005-05-22.txt:01:39:45: <GregorR> Oh, btw, I have another retort on Python: While most web servers support PHP, most do not support Python ;)
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60 2005-05-23.txt:20:44:24: <GregorR-L> MoinMoin is python, and many servers don't support Python.
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61 2005-05-23.txt:21:07:55: <pgimeno> MoinMoin's main problem is Python
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62 2005-05-23.txt:21:19:39: <calamari> I thought we decided against MoinMoin because it was python
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63 2005-05-24.txt:18:12:30: <GregorR-L> wooby: MoinMoin is nice, but python - if all the hosts have python, it quite wins.
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64 2005-05-24.txt:18:13:03: <kipple> anybody have problem running a wiki which requires python or mysql?
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65 2005-05-24.txt:18:13:14: <pgimeno> malaprop: can you offer python?
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66 2005-05-24.txt:18:13:29: <malaprop> I can run Python CGI, but not mod_python or more esoteric frameworks.
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67 2005-05-24.txt:18:16:07: <malaprop> OK, MoinMoin does support CGI. Will not be fast that way, but it has other, faster frontends like FastCGI, Twisted, and mod_python.
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68 2005-05-24.txt:18:17:26: <kipple> hmm. is there an easy way to check if a web server supports mod_python or similar?
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69 2005-05-24.txt:18:17:44: <malaprop> grep mod_python /path/to/httpd.conf
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70 2005-05-24.txt:18:23:44: <GregorR-L> If it doesn't say "python" anywhere, you probably don't have it. But you probably still can do python CGI.
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71 2005-05-24.txt:20:29:40: <calamari> I need to leave.. but I can take a look at that later on.. I'm decent with Python, so maybe I can put something together
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72 2005-05-24.txt:23:18:30: <pgimeno> however rsync has the same problem as python
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73 2005-05-25.txt:07:05:11: <puzzlet> he wrote Ahui interpreter in Python
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74 2005-05-26.txt:05:04:04: <GregorR-L> I'm writing plugins for PHP wikis to support a simple InterWiki Content "standard", but I don't speak Python.
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75 2005-05-31.txt:17:58:25: <sp3tt> Yes, in python.
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76 2005-06-02.txt:20:31:05: * kipple must install python now...
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77 2005-06-03.txt:15:38:54: <malaprop> Keymaker: Just write 'print "hello world";' and you've got python, perl, and PHP done. :
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78 2005-06-03.txt:17:45:35: <sp3tt> 3 != 3 according to python...
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79 2005-06-03.txt:17:54:32: <sp3tt> Not according to python if you don't use int() correctly first <.<
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80 2005-06-04.txt:20:40:51: <lament> python!
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81 2005-06-04.txt:20:40:56: <lament> python/tk
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82 2005-06-04.txt:20:41:44: <lament> don't know about ruby but python has a very good tk reference :)
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83 2005-06-04.txt:21:49:00: <sp3tt> I have a BF interpreter in python around here somewhere...
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84 2005-06-05.txt:20:35:20: <pgimeno> about the languages, I faced a similar decision some weeks ago and I decided to learn Python (not in your list though)
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85 2005-06-05.txt:20:47:52: <graue> hey pgimeno, i tried to learn python before but i really found it confusing and counterintuitive
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86 2005-06-05.txt:20:56:49: <sp3tt> graue: you mean python fucked up your brain less that bf?
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87 2005-06-05.txt:21:10:01: <graue> in python, and this is a problem i've had trying to learn other high-level languages, the language is doing crazy stuff behind my back that i don't understand
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88 2005-06-07.txt:20:24:24: <sp3tt> The page for Programming B listed the following languages: Perl, PHP, C++, Python, Java, and other.
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89 2005-06-08.txt:00:26:29: <Keymaker> a python question;
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90 2005-06-08.txt:00:35:01: <lament> mmm python
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91 2005-06-08.txt:00:36:46: <malaprop> I get paid to code in Python all day and it makes me very happy.
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92 2005-06-08.txt:00:54:24: <Keymaker> by the way; any way to print a character in python so that it would not make new line as well?
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93 2005-06-08.txt:00:55:23: <fizzie> (Disclaimer: I don't do python.)
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94 2005-06-08.txt:21:32:25: <Keymaker> i'll probably call the language "snack", that is, because the interpreter eats the source code. execution of program will be finished when the whole code is removed/eaten. :) the interpreter i've been working on is made with python because it seems to be really cool and fun language. anyways, i'm not sure will this method work:
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95 2005-06-08.txt:21:49:50: <Keymaker> about python; anyone know how i can make 2d arrays?
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96 2005-06-08.txt:22:00:47: <malaprop> In Python a list doesn't have an element [8] without also elements [0-7]
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97 2005-06-08.txt:22:05:19: <malaprop> Remember, in Python everything is an object. Tuples are immutable objects, and dictionaries can be indexed by any immutable object, whether that's an int or a tuple.
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98 2005-06-08.txt:22:17:08: <malaprop> Python does not, no.
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99 2005-06-10.txt:19:37:29: <lament> i was using the python one
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100 2005-06-11.txt:16:11:12: <Keymaker> time to write good ol' python
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101 2005-06-11.txt:18:04:06: <Keymaker> how to reverse string in python?
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102 2005-06-11.txt:18:15:21: <kipple> mmm. Python looks cool. Maybe I'll use that for my next esolang
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103 2005-06-11.txt:18:16:43: <Keymaker> python is my favourite "real" language thesedays
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104 2005-06-11.txt:18:16:44: <malaprop> kipple: Python rules. :)
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105 2005-06-11.txt:18:17:18: <Keymaker> in python strings and stacks and stuff like that is so easy that it's idea for esolang interpreter writing
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106 2005-06-11.txt:22:22:42: <malaprop> Ah, think I got it: Python's docstrings.
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107 2005-06-11.txt:22:27:24: <pgimeno> I've written a Python one (and a debugger)
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108 2005-06-11.txt:22:36:10: <pgimeno> Python docstrings don't fit there very well, if I understand the problem correctly
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109 2005-06-13.txt:20:40:06: <malaprop> I'm familiar with Python's BDFL...
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110 2005-06-15.txt:16:58:10: <Keymaker> that is, i can't find how you can check if file exists (in python)
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111 2005-06-15.txt:17:00:04: <{^Raven^}> keymaker: http://diveintopython.org/file_handling/ seems to have some info on that
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112 2005-06-16.txt:01:10:23: <Keymaker> what about this python..?
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113 2005-06-16.txt:01:10:41: <calamari_> python is cool, I guess...
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114 2005-06-16.txt:01:11:19: <calamari_> I'm getting more comfortable in python, but I still don't like it nearly as much as Java
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115 2005-06-16.txt:01:14:36: <calamari_> I also like Java's library much more than python's
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116 2005-06-16.txt:01:14:59: <calamari_> although python does have lots of nifty string stuff.. that makes it bearable :)
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117 2005-06-16.txt:05:44:16: <lament> but i remember it working with an older python :(
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118 2005-06-16.txt:05:46:20: <tokigun> lament: do you like obfuscated python? ;)
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119 2005-06-19.txt:10:22:33: <lament> (he means python)
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120 2005-06-19.txt:22:04:14: <Keymaker> hey, is that python?
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121 2005-06-24.txt:22:35:11: <lament> maybe my "data" is Python code
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122 2005-07-08.txt:20:06:00: <Kmkr> this is probably some monty python stuff that i don't know how to continue.. or? :)
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123 2005-07-08.txt:20:06:32: <BigZaphod> monty python, yes.. but I think it pretty much speaks for itself and need not be continued. :)
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124 2005-07-09.txt:10:38:26: <tokigun> i used my python implementation to debug 99 bob in whirl.
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125 2005-07-09.txt:10:42:03: <jix> python is faster but i don't like the syntax..
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126 2005-07-09.txt:13:10:59: <tokigun> i didn't use tk in python; i used wxPython for gui.
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127 2005-07-09.txt:13:11:50: <tokigun> yes tkinter comes with python too. :)
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128 2005-07-24.txt:20:12:59: <lindi-> {^Raven^}: not really, python can be compiled to the same bytecode too, so why not brainfuck?
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129 2005-07-26.txt:16:30:51: <Gs30ng> is there anyone make a Switch interpreter in python? i have no C interpreter
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130 2005-07-28.txt:01:11:34: <int-e> personally I much prefer Python
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131 2005-08-15.txt:03:06:18: <heatsink> I just made an md5 PRNG in python
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132 2005-08-15.txt:03:12:37: <heatsink> #! /usr/bin/python
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133 2005-08-21.txt:09:23:10: <tokigun> i have to implement SADOL in C, or python, and so on... :)
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134 2005-08-21.txt:09:24:49: <tokigun> in perl or python it is simple... maybe ;)
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135 2005-08-21.txt:09:31:34: <nooga__> writing SADOL's interpreter in python/perl isn't so hard
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136 2005-09-06.txt:00:00:17: <calamari> well, afk.. got http post working, finally! now to implement that in python
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137 2005-09-06.txt:00:21:07: <calamari> got wiki writing working, now need to do it all again in python .. :/
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138 2005-09-06.txt:00:21:36: <kipple> what? have you switched to python?
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139 2005-09-06.txt:11:22:10: <kipple> can't the python script simply get it from the request? or are you doing it in the applet?
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140 2005-09-06.txt:11:39:30: <calamari_> kipple: good idea with python.. got it :)
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141 2005-09-07.txt:16:17:41: <jix> brainfuck beats them all! http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=brainfuck&word2=c+lisp+scheme+perl+php+python+ruby+bash
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142 2005-09-08.txt:16:30:41: <Aardwolf> I just wanted to mention ruby and python :)
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143 2005-09-11.txt:18:04:37: <Keymaker> is there any way one could make the python program write the output to some file?
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144 2005-09-16.txt:05:15:51: <Arrogant> I've been using Python for my interpreters.
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145 2005-09-16.txt:05:21:16: <twobitsprite> python is nice... the string manipulation is much more intuitive in python, although appearantly OCaml is great for compilers, I just haven't been able to grok thier built-in parser type yet...
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146 2005-09-16.txt:05:25:48: <twobitsprite> I have a lot of problems with the direction python is going development-wise...
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147 2005-09-16.txt:05:27:01: <Arrogant> Python sucks at functional, so why have it
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148 2005-09-16.txt:05:27:28: <twobitsprite> python also has a lot of exceptions to rules, and special cases, and the syntax is a bit too overloaded for my taste
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149 2005-09-16.txt:05:27:38: <twobitsprite> lambdas should be _fixed_ in python
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150 2005-09-16.txt:05:29:47: <twobitsprite> although Java has Python beat in its regularity...
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151 2005-09-16.txt:05:31:03: <twobitsprite> If Python was a compiled language with decently optimizing compiler, I migh consider putting up with the irregularities and go back to it...
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152 2005-09-16.txt:05:32:49: <twobitsprite> I haven't heard anything about a Python compiler...
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153 2005-09-20.txt:04:44:31: <Arrogant> My specification is done and there's a complete Python implementation
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154 2005-09-21.txt:05:52:23: <Arrogant> I think I could write an interpreter in Python
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155 2005-09-21.txt:05:52:56: <GregorR> Python is not in my repretoire, but from what I know about it it seems like a logical choice.
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156 2005-09-21.txt:06:13:22: <Arrogant> The parser'll produce a list of instructions which are Python objects with a perform method that tells me what they do.
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157 2005-09-22.txt:05:41:39: <Arrogant> I do in #python.
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158 2005-09-22.txt:05:43:29: <GregorR> So, if I insulted Python, presumably you would start being more arrogant?
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159 2005-09-22.txt:05:44:53: <Arrogant> Python blocks are defined by tabs kipple
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160 2005-09-23.txt:06:36:50: <Arrogant> Makes Python look bad sometimes
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161 2005-09-27.txt:17:37:33: <nooga> from those interpreted langs i know perl, python a bit, and PHP
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162 2005-10-04.txt:03:30:05: <Gs30ng> here's a dirty python code that helps you make text-printing udage code: http://gs30ng.exca.net/tempcode/genudage.py
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163 2005-10-04.txt:19:51:32: <Gs30ng> i'm writing it in python
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164 2005-10-19.txt:01:45:34: <Robdgreat> *now* I find a python chef interpreter
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165 2005-10-19.txt:01:54:06: <kipple> IIRC the python interpreter lacks several features
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166 2005-10-19.txt:02:05:37: <Robdgreat> considering I don't really know python
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167 2005-10-19.txt:07:36:29: <lament> but eventually it'll run out of memory and OS will kill Python
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168 2005-10-20.txt:03:21:40: <lament> it just uses python longs
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169 2005-10-22.txt:06:12:06: <lament> this might be some Python number problem
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170 2005-10-23.txt:20:09:01: <lament> graue: in python, there's irclib.py
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171 2005-10-23.txt:20:09:17: <graue> sadly, I do not know python
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172 2005-10-23.txt:20:21:35: <lament> just learn python :)
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173 2005-10-23.txt:20:21:52: <graue> python is *not* my style
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174 2005-10-23.txt:20:22:52: <fizzie> You've seen the Python love story video?
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175 2005-10-23.txt:20:31:47: <fizzie> graue; this one: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/multimedia/video/obp/IntroducingPython.mpg (picked up the url from #scheme).
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176 2005-10-23.txt:20:33:16: <lament> i still don't understand how can anybody possibly not like Python :)
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177 2005-10-23.txt:20:33:26: <lament> well, okay, i understand that. But preferring C to Python?
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178 2005-10-23.txt:20:34:02: <lament> Python is quite small.
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179 2005-10-23.txt:20:36:38: <CXI> what does python do that's so amazing?
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180 2005-10-23.txt:20:37:41: <graue> usually my attempts to learn Python end when I get sick of the billion exceptions I have to be looking for constantly, or how obscure the rules for deep vs. shallow copies are
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181 2005-10-23.txt:20:38:00: <lament> doesn't sound like any python i know of
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182 2005-10-23.txt:20:38:23: <CXI> doesn't python have subclassed exceptions?
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183 2005-10-23.txt:20:38:52: <lament> the copying semantics in Python are extremely simple:
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184 2005-10-23.txt:20:40:03: <CXI> basically - in C everything's copied, in python everything's referenced
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185 2005-10-23.txt:20:42:51: <lament> like i said, in python everything is passed by ref. No exceptions.
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186 2005-10-23.txt:20:44:44: <lament> cpressey: python is very, very lax about "guarantees".
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187 2005-10-23.txt:20:46:29: <lament> ruby and python aren't all that different
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188 2005-10-23.txt:20:47:08: <cpressey> CXI: are you also a rabid python fan? :)
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189 2005-10-23.txt:20:47:15: <CXI> actually, I never really got into python
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190 2005-10-23.txt:20:47:28: <lament> many rabid python fans would get offended as well
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191 2005-10-23.txt:20:47:39: <lament> if you know one of (python, ruby)
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192 2005-10-23.txt:20:47:49: <cpressey> lament: well, ruby does have that smalltalk-ish gimmick where you can alter the class structure at runtime... i've not heard of that been done in python.
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193 2005-10-23.txt:20:48:44: <lament> i like python more because it reminds me of perl less :)
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194 2005-10-23.txt:20:50:04: <GregorR> Want to write perl? Write python.
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195 2005-10-23.txt:20:50:37: <cpressey> well, it's true that i like lua more than ruby or python
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196 2005-10-23.txt:20:51:33: <cpressey> python and php are crippled for any serious functional programming, which is too bad
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197 2005-10-23.txt:20:52:04: <cpressey> lament: python doesn't to tail calls, and iirc its lambdas are limited to something like one line of code?
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198 2005-10-23.txt:20:52:25: <lament> cpressey: python is not MEANT for functional programming.
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199 2005-10-23.txt:20:53:18: <cpressey> i wasn't planning to do any FP in python
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200 2005-10-23.txt:20:53:49: <lament> Guido says he regrets ever putting lambdas in Python
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201 2005-10-23.txt:21:03:50: <CXI> actually, I'm curious about python
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202 2005-10-23.txt:21:05:00: <cpressey> i'd have to defer to a real python programmer, as i've only hacked up existing python code
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203 2005-10-23.txt:21:07:15: <lament> CXI: well, everything's an object in Python.
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204 2005-10-23.txt:21:09:41: <lament> python and ruby are rather similar in their OO model. Ruby has more syntax for it, and things like being able to modify existing types
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205 2005-10-23.txt:21:10:06: <lament> (can do that in python, but the changes won't apply to existing objects)
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206 2005-10-23.txt:21:12:09: <lament> python doesn't treat functions any different from other objects. ruby does for some reason
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207 2005-10-23.txt:21:15:48: <lament> their description of python is _completley wrong_
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208 2005-10-23.txt:21:16:52: <lament> (python used to suck a lot more than it does now)
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209 2005-10-23.txt:21:19:21: <lament> python sucks
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210 2005-10-23.txt:21:19:31: <cpressey> the weird (social) thing about ruby and python seems to be how much each camp is concerned with the other. i guess it's just because they're both in almost the same niche?
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211 2005-10-23.txt:21:20:07: <lament> python python fans are much more obsessed with Perl
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212 2005-10-23.txt:21:20:13: <lament> s/python python/but python
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213 2005-10-23.txt:21:20:53: <CXI> but yeah, python, perl and ruby all occupy a similar space
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214 2005-10-23.txt:21:21:25: <lament> python and ruby are MUCH closer to each other than either is to perl, though
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215 2005-10-23.txt:21:21:35: <lament> i wouldn't mind programming in either python or ruby
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216 2005-10-24.txt:02:18:03: <marcan> My Python BF interpreter supports unlimited memory in both directions, and unlimited cell size
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217 2005-10-24.txt:06:08:55: <lament> it does in Python too
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218 2005-10-24.txt:06:09:24: <GregorR> Yes, but Python isn't designed to be idiotic ;)
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219 2005-10-24.txt:22:14:43: <marcan> Which is why I like python
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220 2005-10-24.txt:22:15:07: <lament> Which is why i like Python.
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221 2005-10-24.txt:22:15:13: <calamari> python.. lol
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222 2005-10-24.txt:22:15:52: <calamari> python is difficult to program in due to the dumb indentation thing
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223 2005-10-25.txt:00:53:10: <calamari> ahh sorry I mean like java python, etc
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224 2005-10-25.txt:00:53:29: <GregorR-L> I have java, python, perl, PHPCLI, ruby ...
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225 2005-10-25.txt:02:36:39: <lament> mine's in Python and Slow
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226 2005-10-25.txt:05:27:18: <lament> you know Python?
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227 2005-10-26.txt:02:08:03: <marcan> GregorR-L: interestingly, the glass semantics sort of remind me of the python bytecodeç
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228 2005-10-26.txt:02:12:44: <marcan> if you've got python at hand, try this
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229 2005-10-28.txt:04:01:27: <GregorR> OMGWTF Python SUX0RZ ROFLMAOOLOLOLOLOL
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230 2005-10-28.txt:04:01:53: <lament> duerig: Python SUX0RZ :)
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231 2005-10-28.txt:04:02:07: <GregorR> It's a local dialect of Python.
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232 2005-10-28.txt:04:02:17: <GregorR> It's basically Python translated to AOL n00b speak.
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233 2005-10-28.txt:04:02:21: <lament> at least, python is what i actually write stuff in. Haskell, Smalltalk or whatever is what i would use if i were smarter.
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234 2005-10-28.txt:04:10:29: <lament> duerig: me too. That's why I prefer Python.
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235 2005-10-28.txt:04:18:15: <lament> duerig: i bet i could write an interpreter in Python faster than you wrote it in C++!
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236 2005-10-28.txt:04:19:22: <GregorR> Whether in Python or C++, it's bad practice to change a=7 to a="blah".
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237 2005-10-30.txt:02:50:53: <GregorR> Don't mind lament, he has the strange notion that Python is better than C++. Hah!
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238 2005-10-31.txt:05:26:28: <Arrogant> My favorite word is python.
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239 2005-11-01.txt:05:48:13: <lament> My right to use Python preempts others' "right" to use C++
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240 2005-11-01.txt:05:48:27: <GregorR> lament: My using C++ does not prevent you from using Python.
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241 2005-11-01.txt:18:42:27: <GregorR> PYTHON IS WRITTEN IN C
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242 2005-11-01.txt:18:43:31: <GregorR> Tell me how it's an invalid argument? Python wouldn't even exist without lower level languages (IE C)
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243 2005-11-01.txt:18:44:09: <lament> GregorR: the most popular implementation of Python happens to be written in C. I couldn't care less.
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244 2005-11-01.txt:18:44:47: <GregorR> So the people who wrote Python were misguided?
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245 2005-11-01.txt:18:47:31: <lament> now that python is available... :)
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246 2005-11-03.txt:04:35:41: <Arrogant> Python has complex
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247 2005-11-03.txt:04:35:54: <calamari> didn't know Python was considered an esolang
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248 2005-11-04.txt:04:17:37: <calamari> or python
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249 2005-11-04.txt:05:33:17: <Arrogant> It's something I picked up from Python
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250 2005-11-04.txt:07:16:27: <Arrogant> XChat has Python scripting
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251 2005-11-04.txt:07:39:28: <Arrogant> You know, with Firefox 2, Chatzilla will have Python scripting.
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252 2005-11-05.txt:06:04:02: <duerig> Hmm... my current vision of your language seems a lot like python. How does it differ?
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253 2005-11-05.txt:06:05:24: <GregorR> It's actually not very dissimilar to python, but there are things in python that I ust don't really like.
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254 2005-11-05.txt:06:06:10: <duerig> What do you dislike about python?
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255 2005-11-05.txt:06:07:15: <GregorR> Well, a lot of it is actually syntactic - if I took a python interpreter, and changed the parser a bit, it would be pretty close ;)
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256 2005-11-05.txt:06:07:35: <GregorR> Idonno, I haven't used Python in a while, so I don't remember the specifics I disliked.
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257 2005-11-05.txt:06:07:45: <GregorR> I'll go read my Python book and get back to you ;)
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258 2005-11-05.txt:06:08:46: <duerig> I would be interested to know. I like the idea of python, but certain things about it make me nervous.
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259 2005-11-09.txt:05:40:57: <Arrogant> Fx2 will have Python support.
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260 2005-11-20.txt:03:25:02: * Sgep goes to attempt to write a python implementation of something
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261 2005-11-20.txt:03:35:46: <GregorR> Monty Python's Flying Whitespace!
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262 2005-11-20.txt:03:36:08: <GregorR> Juuuust a subtle mockery of Python's indentation significance.
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263 2005-11-20.txt:03:57:39: <Sgep> Please tell me that Python can use the generated parser easily
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264 2005-11-23.txt:20:58:44: <calamari> quick poll: perl, python, ruby, or java?
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265 2005-11-23.txt:20:58:51: <Keymaker> python
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266 2005-11-23.txt:21:05:48: * calamari chooses python, since that was the only valid vote :)
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267 2005-11-23.txt:21:07:00: <calamari> perl, python, ruby, or java?
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268 2005-11-23.txt:21:07:21: <GregorR> Well, not perl, and not Java, so I'd go with python.
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269 2005-11-26.txt:18:50:43: <calamari> I translated that pi program.. it was originally Haskell, someone converted it to Ruby, then I converted it to Python and finally to Linguine
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270 2005-11-26.txt:18:52:13: <Keymaker> i don't have python on this computer (this isn't my computer)
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271 2005-11-26.txt:19:29:54: <jix> dc -e '10 20 ^ 1 - p' | xargs echo | xargs echo | tr -d ' ' | time python linguine.py collatz2.lng => 1.57 real 0.42 user 0.13 sys
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272 2005-11-26.txt:19:30:22: <jix> dc -e '10 20 ^ 1 - p' | xargs echo | xargs echo | tr -d ' ' | time python linguine.py collatz.lng => 9.63 real 4.48 user 0.24 sys
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273 2005-11-26.txt:19:33:02: <jix> stupid python
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274 2005-11-26.txt:20:09:40: <jix> hmm the python << doesn't support bignums well ( i think)
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275 2005-11-26.txt:20:09:44: <jix> linguine.py:291: FutureWarning: x<<y losing bits or changing sign will return a long in Python 2.4 and up
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276 2005-11-26.txt:20:09:56: <jix> how can x<<y loose bits (it does in python...)
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277 2005-11-26.txt:20:11:46: <jix> but i can't test it with large numbers because of pythons stupid >> i'm searching a workaround atm
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278 2005-11-27.txt:13:26:46: <jix> python would do that too
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279 2005-11-27.txt:15:53:15: <jix> i know how to call the dynamic linker using ruby/dl but with python i have no idea
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280 2005-11-27.txt:15:55:20: <calamari> was looking up how to do this in python and its not great :)
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281 2005-12-07.txt:12:49:03: <Keymaker> what is wrong with this python code?
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282 2005-12-07.txt:12:50:27: * kipple doesn't know python :(
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283 2005-12-07.txt:12:52:43: <Keymaker> i thought python didn't need variable defining
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284 2005-12-07.txt:13:08:17: <int-e> Hmm. I think Python is very neat.
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285 2005-12-07.txt:13:49:35: <int-e> (but Python prefers to print them with '')
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286 2005-12-07.txt:13:49:48: <Keymaker> perhaps my python version is too old
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287 2005-12-07.txt:14:03:10: <int-e> python quine :)
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288 2005-12-07.txt:14:04:19: <int-e> (the fun thing is that python quotes strings inside lists when printing lists)
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289 2005-12-09.txt:18:14:25: <Keymaker> perhaps i should use python instead.. but can it compile?
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290 2005-12-09.txt:18:15:20: <Keymaker> although i have no idea how to do these things in python either
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291 2005-12-20.txt:15:11:22: <Keymaker> (is there any simple way to remove a character from the string in python?)
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292 2005-12-20.txt:15:11:35: <Gs30ng> Haskell, Python, and Ruby was good ones for me
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293 2005-12-20.txt:15:12:27: <nooga> i'd rather use Perl than Python
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294 2005-12-20.txt:15:14:07: <jix> python developers say that that is a feature that shouldn't be used ;)
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295 2005-12-20.txt:15:15:26: <Gs30ng> ruby resembles python, or vice versa
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296 2005-12-20.txt:15:16:30: <jix> python uses "There is only ONE way to do something" ruby uses the principle of the least surprise
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297 2005-12-20.txt:15:17:47: <jix> and python developers try to reduce the number of ways to do something... they say it's confusing to have 2 ways...
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298 2005-12-22.txt:22:06:32: <lament> gah and it's horribly designed and written in Python and i hate myself for writing it!!!
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299 2006-01-13.txt:02:40:07: <lament> lua:~/python/lambda_eso lament$ python lambda.py
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300 2006-01-13.txt:02:49:01: <lament> lua:~/python/lambda_eso lament$ python lambda.py
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