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1 2012-10-21.txt:02:40:28: <elliott> <ion> nooodl: 1, 1, …? Everyone knows the Fibonacci sequence begins with 89, -55.
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3 2012-10-31.txt:00:39:04: <nooodl> thanks
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4 2012-10-31.txt:01:26:33: <nooodl> HackEgo: thanks!!
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5 2012-10-31.txt:01:28:15: <nooodl> ｍｏｎｑｙ： ｓｔｕｐｉｄ？？？？？
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6 2012-10-31.txt:01:28:47: <nooodl> now i'm curious: what's `No
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7 2012-10-31.txt:01:29:04: <nooodl> woooooooah
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8 2012-10-31.txt:01:29:06: <nooodl> `@
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9 2012-10-31.txt:01:30:21: <nooodl> `? hatesgeo
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10 2012-10-31.txt:01:30:32: <nooodl> that looks like a great command
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11 2012-10-31.txt:01:30:53: <nooodl> monqy: i'm glad this exists
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12 2012-10-31.txt:01:31:31: <nooodl> `? elliott
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13 2012-10-31.txt:02:09:39: <nooodl> shachaf: hi
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14 2012-10-31.txt:02:09:45: <shachaf> nooodl: hi
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15 2012-10-31.txt:02:09:54: <nooodl> monqy: i've met shachaf
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16 2012-10-31.txt:02:10:18: <shachaf> who's nooodl
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17 2012-10-31.txt:02:10:29: <nooodl> i don't know
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18 2012-10-31.txt:02:10:33: <nooodl> ask monqy
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19 2012-10-31.txt:02:11:15: <nooodl> elliott: hi
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20 2012-10-31.txt:02:11:41: <shachaf> elliott: is nooodl belgian :'(
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21 2012-10-31.txt:02:11:54: <nooodl> shachaf: yes i'm sorry
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22 2012-10-31.txt:02:12:21: <shachaf> don't do it nooodl
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29 2012-11-02.txt:21:47:31: <nooodl> Thanks
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30 2012-11-02.txt:21:48:37: <nooodl> "THE OTHER KIND OF ESOTERICA"?????
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31 2012-11-02.txt:21:50:16: <nooodl> man, do you guys seriously get visited by "that kind" of people often enough for that to be in the welcome message
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32 2012-11-02.txt:21:50:29: <nooodl> ouch
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33 2012-11-02.txt:21:50:35: <pikhq> nooodl: It's not *exceptionally* common, but it's sufficiently common that it's necessary, yes.
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34 2012-11-02.txt:21:50:43: <elliott> nooodl: do you feel welcome yet asshole
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35 2012-11-02.txt:21:50:47: <elliott> Gregor: it's ok i know nooodl
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36 2012-11-02.txt:21:51:02: <ion> `ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ nooodl
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37 2012-11-02.txt:21:51:03: <shachaf> Twist: nooodl *is* "that kind" of people.
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38 2012-11-02.txt:21:52:32: <nooodl> host an irc server on there too
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39 2012-11-02.txt:21:53:02: <nooodl> /server esolangs
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40 2012-11-02.txt:21:53:30: <pikhq> nooodl: エソテリックプログラミング言語のディザインとデプロイメントの国際な場所へようこそ！詳しく、ウィキを見て： http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page。（他のエソテリック、irc.dal.netの#esotericへ）
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41 2012-11-02.txt:21:54:23: <nooodl> pikhq: ありがとう
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42 2012-11-02.txt:22:09:12: <nooodl> `learn bonvenon Bonvenon al la internacia centro por la desegno kaj ellaso de esoteraj programlingvoj! Por pli da informado, vizitu la Viki-o: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Por la alia speco de esotero, iru al #esoteric sur irc.dal.net.)
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43 2012-11-02.txt:22:09:21: <nooodl> "true esoteric"
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44 2012-11-02.txt:22:09:26: <nooodl> yeah
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45 2012-11-02.txt:22:10:53: <nooodl> lojban is binary lambda calculus
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46 2012-11-02.txt:22:10:59: <nooodl> "it's so 'simple'!"
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47 2012-11-02.txt:22:33:24: <nooodl> shubshub: this language is the one taped onto python right
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48 2012-11-02.txt:22:33:52: <nooodl> why would you write math(9, 9, "*") instead of 9 * 9
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49 2012-11-02.txt:22:33:57: <elliott> nooodl: it's shorter
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50 2012-11-02.txt:22:34:02: <nooodl> elliott: oh
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51 2012-11-02.txt:22:42:23: <nooodl> monqy: A New And Much More Improved Interpreter For !!!Batch has Been developed It is Called !Py!Batch: Download It Here: http://www.mediafire.com/?9zx97k7zl04xk67
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52 2012-11-02.txt:22:42:35: <monqy> nooodl: i've seen that
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53 2012-11-02.txt:22:44:24: <nooodl> monqy: http://codepad.org/jThI4mnL !!!
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54 2012-11-02.txt:22:44:43: <nooodl> line 9 is the !!!Python code
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55 2012-11-02.txt:22:44:58: <nooodl> imo "exec e('')" is part of it
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56 2012-11-02.txt:22:50:03: <nooodl> hi
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57 2012-11-02.txt:22:54:17: <nooodl> hoi
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60 2012-11-03.txt:03:36:09: <nooodl> zzo38: hey, is your Chronojournal still hosted somewhere? it was interesting
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61 2012-11-03.txt:03:58:04: <zzo38> nooodl: I still have the software but there is no data.
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64 2012-11-03.txt:22:02:58: <monqy> Sgeo: add nooodl to the list btw
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65 2012-11-03.txt:22:03:10: <nooodl> hi
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66 2012-11-03.txt:22:20:25: <nooodl> ais523: which office version is that?
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67 2012-11-03.txt:22:23:56: <nooodl> i'm thinking it's an anti-piracy thing yeah
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72 2012-11-04.txt:20:35:08: <nooodl_> fireworks in hexham?
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73 2012-11-04.txt:23:37:03: <nooodl_> zzo38: i don't understand
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74 2012-11-04.txt:23:48:00: <zzo38> nooodl_: Which one did you not understand?
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75 2012-11-04.txt:23:48:12: <nooodl_> <zzo38> Do you like this??????
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76 2012-11-04.txt:23:48:15: <nooodl_> what is "this"
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77 2012-11-04.txt:23:51:13: <nooodl_> hi
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80 2012-11-05.txt:17:58:08: <nooodl_> sandboxed?
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81 2012-11-05.txt:18:01:16: <ais523> nooodl_: it's prctl sandboxing
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84 2012-11-06.txt:16:41:31: <nooodl_> elliott: hi
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85 2012-11-06.txt:16:42:15: <atriq> Is nooodl_ new?
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86 2012-11-06.txt:16:42:22: <nooodl_> yeah kinda
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87 2012-11-06.txt:16:42:40: <nooodl_> i know elliott, monqy, and zzo38, though. also, i recognize some folks from #haskell
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88 2012-11-06.txt:16:48:40: <nooodl_> that's a good zzo38 quote
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89 2012-11-06.txt:16:48:47: <nooodl_> is the context as good
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90 2012-11-06.txt:16:51:30: <nooodl_> mmmhmm
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93 2012-11-07.txt:19:44:57: <nooodl_> there are some pretty long words in there. what does pesumatola mean, for example
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94 2012-11-07.txt:19:48:16: <nooodl_> Deewiant: okay, how about ketolamasuti
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95 2012-11-07.txt:19:48:58: <fizzie> nooodl_: meadow-depression brush, maybe.
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96 2012-11-07.txt:19:49:47: <nooodl_> woah everyone here is finnish
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97 2012-11-07.txt:19:50:00: <Vorpal> nooodl_, I'm Swedish, so no
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98 2012-11-07.txt:19:50:12: <nooodl_> Vorpal: agglutinative languages have words for *everything*!
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99 2012-11-07.txt:19:50:45: <olsner> err, nooodl_
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100 2012-11-07.txt:19:52:36: <nooodl_> hm. so "latolatolatolatolamasumasuma" is valid finnish?
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101 2012-11-07.txt:19:52:43: <nooodl_> (for some value of "valid")
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102 2012-11-07.txt:19:54:21: <nooodl_> (hey, i guess you could pull this off in dutch too but it sounds forced. "madedepressiepenseel")
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103 2012-11-07.txt:19:54:44: <Vorpal> nooodl_, it sounds forced in Swedish too
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104 2012-11-07.txt:19:55:18: <nooodl_> "barn barn barn thing thing thing thing" - the best, most useful word
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105 2012-11-07.txt:19:58:47: <nooodl_> now all that's left is the "lama" part
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106 2012-11-07.txt:19:59:16: <nooodl_> ooh neat
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107 2012-11-07.txt:20:00:00: <nooodl_> "gridlock of gridlocks of depressions of barns of barns of barns of barns". should be in finnish dictionaries
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108 2012-11-07.txt:20:00:53: <nooodl_> yep
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109 2012-11-07.txt:20:02:51: <nooodl_> wow those ar e good
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110 2012-11-07.txt:20:02:57: <elliott> nooodl_: do you know finnish or something
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111 2012-11-07.txt:20:03:03: <nooodl_> no :(
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112 2012-11-07.txt:20:05:06: <nooodl_> everyone's waiting for the big "kansasitykseenilläsittävän" translation, man!
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113 2012-11-07.txt:20:09:14: <nooodl_> fizzie: finnish is your mother language, right?
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114 2012-11-07.txt:20:09:35: <fizzie> nooodl_: Yes.
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115 2012-11-07.txt:20:10:27: <nooodl_> haha, i love how you can end up having trouble parsing (long, absurd) words even if you're a native speaker of finish
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116 2012-11-07.txt:20:11:47: <fizzie> nooodl_: It could be an invalid word, though; it's having vowel harmony problems, for one thing; that could work in a compound, but the rest of it looks really more like suffixes.
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117 2012-11-07.txt:20:27:53: <nooodl_> http://codepad.org/hpZ0TcxQ woah this is kind of "lato"-heavy
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120 2012-11-08.txt:20:54:18: <nooodl_> mircscript :((((
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121 2012-11-08.txt:20:54:48: <nooodl_> myndzi: my condolences
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122 2012-11-08.txt:20:56:01: <nooodl_> i,
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123 2012-11-08.txt:20:56:10: <nooodl_> that looks like uh
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124 2012-11-08.txt:20:56:46: <nooodl_> mircscript is like perl, but... someone finish this simile
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125 2012-11-08.txt:20:57:06: <nooodl_> i guess it's perl meets the bad parts of javascript maybe. yeah it's unique
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126 2012-11-08.txt:20:58:02: <nooodl_> dude. the regex. the REGEX...
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127 2012-11-08.txt:20:58:39: <nooodl_> i can't tell what's going on with the \\m's
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128 2012-11-08.txt:21:11:02: <nooodl_> > length "1110000010110010101000001110001010000010101100101111111110000010110010101100001110000010110011110010010"
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129 2012-11-08.txt:21:12:15: <nooodl_> probably; most utf-8-supporting languages have a function for that kind of thing
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130 2012-11-08.txt:21:37:44: <nooodl_> well, they're clearly looking for books on FORTH specifically
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137 2012-11-10.txt:09:55:06: <nooodl> oooooh nooooooo
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142 2012-11-12.txt:09:06:42: <monqy> hi nooodl
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145 2012-11-12.txt:21:36:20: <nooodl> ais523: i keep forgetting you're a competitive pokémon player but that's actually neat
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146 2012-11-12.txt:22:48:21: <nooodl> hi
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147 2012-11-12.txt:22:49:10: <nooodl> i believe that, keeping with the theme of people being bad at inventing names for derivative languages, it should be called a) "DeadStack" or b) "StackFish"
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148 2012-11-12.txt:22:49:51: <nooodl> i recommend the latter because of the semi clever "stockfish" pun
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149 2012-11-12.txt:22:50:49: <nooodl> Fishstacks is better
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150 2012-11-12.txt:22:51:49: <nooodl> you should write a spec for this language in 30 seconds
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151 2012-11-12.txt:22:52:05: <nooodl> GO
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152 2012-11-12.txt:23:01:33: <nooodl> what was happening at "a ne\nsquare top element"
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153 2012-11-12.txt:23:02:47: <Arc_Koen> nooodl: I just had a weird déjà-vu feeling when you said that
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154 2012-11-12.txt:23:03:56: <nooodl> so because you forgot about "pop", p is really just "set the accumulator to zero"
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155 2012-11-12.txt:23:05:25: <nooodl> oh i guess you have to p once at the start of your program at least
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156 2012-11-12.txt:23:08:13: <nooodl> now you have to call is
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157 2012-11-12.txt:23:08:21: <nooodl> "DequeFish"....
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158 2012-11-12.txt:23:23:06: <Arc_Koen> hey nooodl, do you have a user account on the wiki so that I can give you the credits you deserve?
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159 2012-11-12.txt:23:23:14: <nooodl> no :(
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160 2012-11-12.txt:23:35:45: <nooodl> i'm guessing this should work? http://pastie.org/5368841
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161 2012-11-12.txt:23:35:59: <nooodl> it's kind of smart ass-y
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162 2012-11-12.txt:23:38:16: <nooodl> that's
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163 2012-11-12.txt:23:38:21: <nooodl> "the classic deadfish issue"
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164 2012-11-12.txt:23:38:39: <nooodl> http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Nooodl
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165 2012-11-12.txt:23:40:18: <nooodl> monqy: you should write something on my user page
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166 2012-11-12.txt:23:40:31: <nooodl> (not user talk. user)
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167 2012-11-12.txt:23:40:54: <nooodl> something about heading text clearly
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168 2012-11-12.txt:23:42:21: <nooodl> good edit
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169 2012-11-12.txt:23:42:39: <nooodl> good edit message
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170 2012-11-12.txt:23:44:41: <nooodl> http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=User:Monqy&action=history http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=User:Nooodl&action=history
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171 2012-11-12.txt:23:46:59: <Arc_Koen> nooodl: I'm not sure your implementation works properly with output, but I have never seen that language before so I can't really tell
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176 2012-11-13.txt:16:44:16: <nooodl> hmmm i'm thinking up quite the language here!
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177 2012-11-13.txt:16:44:16: <lambdabot> nooodl: You have 3 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them.
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178 2012-11-13.txt:16:44:20: <nooodl> uh oh
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179 2012-11-13.txt:16:45:27: <nooodl> here's the deal: befunge, on an infinite-D 2x2x2x2x2x... board
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180 2012-11-13.txt:16:46:02: <nooodl> so your position is just a binary number. by default the pointer goes 0, 1, 0, 1, 0, 1, etc
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181 2012-11-13.txt:16:47:23: <elliott> nooodl: then most positions on the board are inaccessible
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182 2012-11-13.txt:16:48:43: <nooodl> what's super-TC
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183 2012-11-13.txt:16:49:06: <atriq> nooodl, a turing-machine is less powerful than it if it's super-TC
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184 2012-11-13.txt:16:51:55: <nooodl> anyway, moving around involves just going "x ^= dx", however, i'm going to somehow implement being able to modify multiple derivatives of x
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185 2012-11-13.txt:16:53:13: <nooodl> so with multi-dimensional wrapping and speed, acceleration, jerk, jounce etc. set, you can make more intersting loops around the board
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186 2012-11-13.txt:16:57:29: <nooodl> http://codepad.org/ZgbFzZ1c apparently you can make paths with a length of up to 2^ceil(log2(x)) when you define x derivatives of position
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187 2012-11-13.txt:16:59:20: <Arc_Koen> nooodl: http://esolangs.org/wiki/List_of_ideas#Based_on_dimensions
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188 2012-11-13.txt:16:59:21: <nooodl> or uh, not really. it's 2^ceil(log2(x-1)), or something. anyway, to move around, instead of setting dx and dy to some value like befunge, you push dx, ddx, dddx, ddddx etc. onto a "movement stack"
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189 2012-11-13.txt:16:59:40: <elliott> <nooodl> what's super-TC
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190 2012-11-13.txt:16:59:42: <elliott> nooodl: uncomputable
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191 2012-11-13.txt:17:00:32: <Arc_Koen> nooodl: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:Hcbf
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192 2012-11-13.txt:17:02:53: <nooodl> yeah, the coords have to end with an infinite amount of 0s
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193 2012-11-13.txt:17:03:34: <nooodl> there's no bound to the number of dimensions your position can have, but it can't ever be infinite
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194 2012-11-13.txt:17:05:02: <Arc_Koen> nooodl: why not
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195 2012-11-13.txt:17:06:57: <nooodl> i've considered that. representing position as a function (N -> Bool)
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196 2012-11-13.txt:17:07:51: <nooodl> yeah that's the issue
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197 2012-11-13.txt:17:10:42: <nooodl> things stay considerably more sane if you don't allow for coordinates like (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, ...)
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198 2012-11-13.txt:17:17:41: <nooodl> not every infinite sequence is describable, though, right
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199 2012-11-13.txt:17:25:48: <elliott> nooodl: (in case it isn't clear, positions in your language are isomorphic to reals)
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200 2012-11-13.txt:17:26:54: <nooodl> well if i'm not allowing for anything that doesn't end in "0 repeating" they're isomorphic to naturals, right
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201 2012-11-13.txt:17:27:25: <nooodl> because (0, 1, 0, 1, 1, 0 repeating) is just 0b11010
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202 2012-11-13.txt:17:28:55: <ais523> nooodl: and if you allow any sequence to repeat, it's isomorphic to the rationals
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217 2012-11-25.txt:22:17:17: <nooodl> hey, what's the most well-known stack-based turing tarpit
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218 2012-11-25.txt:22:18:37: <nooodl> ooh underload looks like it's what i need
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219 2012-11-25.txt:22:19:53: <nooodl> well, "need" is a strong word, but it's just, i was wondering how you would prove a simple stack-based language to be TC
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220 2012-11-25.txt:22:23:32: <oerjan> nooodl: the minimization section is all about how little of it you need to be TC
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221 2012-11-25.txt:22:26:20: <nooodl> oerjan: interesting. thanks
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222 2012-11-25.txt:22:27:06: <Phantom_Hoover> isn't nooodl monqy
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223 2012-11-25.txt:22:27:34: <nooodl> monqy: help
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230 2012-11-27.txt:20:40:13: <nooodl_> fizzie: "diameter of earth / speed of light"?
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231 2012-11-27.txt:20:40:30: <fizzie> nooodl_: Sure, that works. But it interpreted "c" as speed of light when it was circumference.
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232 2012-11-27.txt:20:40:57: <nooodl_> W|A works in mysterious ways
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255 2012-12-01.txt:18:54:40: <nooodl_> Bike: i think he just means, "x * 0 = 0 is bad"
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256 2012-12-01.txt:18:56:32: <Bike> nooodl_: yeah but i'm trying to put more thought into it than he did
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259 2012-12-02.txt:00:35:04: <nooodl__> ä you guys are lazy
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260 2012-12-02.txt:00:35:33: <nooodl__> ĥ
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261 2012-12-02.txt:00:41:05: <nooodl__> does this: "å̈" look fine to you guys
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262 2012-12-02.txt:00:41:16: <oerjan> nooodl__: excellent plain a, there
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263 2012-12-02.txt:00:41:31: <nooodl__> it's supposed to be... an a with an ö above it, essentially
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264 2012-12-02.txt:00:41:46: <nooodl__> a + ° + ¨
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265 2012-12-02.txt:00:42:36: <pikhq_> nooodl__: That composed poorly.
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270 2012-12-02.txt:20:24:09: <nooodl__> can !asm do anything reasonably nifty
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271 2012-12-02.txt:20:43:06: <nooodl__> of course not
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274 2012-12-02.txt:20:45:15: <nooodl__> on x-chat ctrl+shift+u-8 works but that's probably not the case in irssi
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275 2012-12-02.txt:20:52:23: <nooodl__> elliott: thanks for that idiom
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276 2012-12-02.txt:20:52:32: <elliott> nooodl__: please dont use that idiom
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277 2012-12-02.txt:20:52:40: <nooodl__> i'm sorry
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278 2012-12-02.txt:20:52:43: <nooodl__> it's too good
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283 2012-12-03.txt:22:24:04: <nooodl> ^rot13 shachaf
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284 2012-12-03.txt:22:31:18: <oerjan> nooodl: ONLY DOUR PUNS, I SAID
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285 2012-12-03.txt:22:31:51: <nooodl> what is dour
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286 2012-12-03.txt:22:32:41: <oerjan> nooodl: almost the opposite of fun
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295 2012-12-24.txt:14:30:56: <nooodl> elliott: do you know what i could add to/remove from zeptobasic to make it more esoteric
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296 2012-12-24.txt:14:30:56: <lambdabot> nooodl: You have 3 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them.
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297 2012-12-24.txt:14:30:58: <nooodl> oops
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298 2012-12-24.txt:14:31:48: <nooodl> ooh
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299 2012-12-24.txt:14:32:02: <ais523> nooodl: removing everything but the absolute minimum is a standard way to make languages esoteric, or possibly lambda calculus
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300 2012-12-24.txt:14:32:25: <nooodl> monqy said it had been discussed here before so i guess i'll read the logs
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