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1 2003-02-12.txt:03:06:37: <calamari> @)
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2 2003-03-06.txt:03:02:27: -!- SamB has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: _SamB_!~naesten@64.3.60.189))).
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3 2003-03-10.txt:13:25:03: <dbc> #ident "@(#)true.sh 1.6 93/01/11 SMI" /* SVr4.0 1.4 */
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4 2003-03-14.txt:04:21:05: <calamari> it should be near the top.. jeffry@
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5 2003-04-01.txt:09:42:20: -!- deltab has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: deltab_!~deltab@espians.com))).
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6 2003-04-03.txt:06:26:32: -!- lament has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: lament_!~lament@h24-78-145-92.vc.shawcable.net))).
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7 2003-04-12.txt:13:29:52: <dbc> Assumes EOF->0 or EOF->no change. Daniel B. Cristofani (cristofd@hevanet.com)]
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8 2003-05-21.txt:06:27:12: <dbc1> Daniel B. Cristofani (cristofd@hevanet.com)]
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9 2003-07-25.txt:01:22:04: -!- andreou changed the modes of #esoteric: +b *!*@bespin.org
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10 2003-07-25.txt:03:20:45: <andreou> [03:21:18] * andreou sets mode: +b *!*@bespin.org
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11 2003-07-25.txt:03:21:16: -!- andreou changed the modes of #esoteric: +b *!*@bespin.org
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12 2003-07-25.txt:03:25:04: -!- andreou changed the modes of #esoteric: +b clog!*@*
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13 2003-07-26.txt:03:28:36: <andreou> HATE HATE SYSAD@$%!$%!#$!@#$@#NO CARRIER
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14 2003-07-29.txt:23:42:28: <lament> 14:39 <@Taaus> Ok. I'll look forward to your implementation :)
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15 2003-07-29.txt:23:44:52: <lament> <@Taaus> Now read this conversation in reverse.
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16 2003-07-30.txt:22:13:27: <lament> Taaus: ooh. Sick!@
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17 2003-07-31.txt:18:52:29: <lament> @.-::=@_.
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18 2003-07-31.txt:18:52:32: <lament> @*-::=@_*
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19 2003-07-31.txt:18:52:37: <lament> @_*...............|
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20 2003-10-21.txt:00:40:38: <andreou> post an apb on misc@
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21 2003-10-21.txt:00:51:27: <lament> hi steve, we'll cure you!@
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22 2003-10-21.txt:00:52:01: <calamari_> andreou i'm not a good role model for that.. I like to add @ for exit :)
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23 2003-10-21.txt:00:52:31: <calamari_> but it gets along with @ just fine
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24 2003-10-21.txt:00:54:23: <andreou> oh, in comp.sys.hp48 there was an interesting thread in which two brainfuck compilers/interpreters crept up... i meant to summarize it and send it over to lang@ and fob
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25 2003-10-22.txt:03:33:57: <andreou> lament lang@, sci@ and misc@
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26 2003-10-31.txt:09:12:05: <BFBot> ????????????????????? !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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27 2003-11-21.txt:02:38:14: <Taaus> @+(0,0) @@{@+(1,1)}
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28 2003-11-21.txt:02:39:07: <Taaus> @+<coord> is "push <coord> onto stack", @@<coord> is "do <coord> for each item in stack"
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29 2003-11-21.txt:02:43:26: <Taaus> The @+ operation doesn't affect the current coordinate, but it does push its argument onto the stack.
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30 2004-02-08.txt:20:50:21: <fizzie> random stuff: I almost wrote a sed-based brainf*ck interpreter, but then I decided writing a befunge one would be more interesting. managed to implement [0-9], @ and +, then got bored.
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31 2004-02-28.txt:23:06:35: <fizzie> [1:07:11] fizban@colin ~> /usr/bin/ddate +"It's the %e of %B, %Y. %. %NCelebrate %H."
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32 2004-04-09.txt:09:26:53: <fizzie> [11:29:04] fizban@colin ~/hut/t-106.231-lop> cat hw2-code.bf
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33 2004-04-29.txt:06:08:42: <andreou> dbc post it on misc@
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34 2004-05-04.txt:04:20:30: <Toreun> toreun@toreun.org works for email
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35 2004-05-06.txt:01:24:58: <heatsink> Did you send that to something@burr.something?
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36 2004-05-27.txt:15:11:49: <fizzie> hm, since when have I had this '@' character in front of my name and why? it's scary. if I make an U-turn I might hit it and it'd terminate this program. (assuming life works like befunge. would think it does.)
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37 2004-05-30.txt:17:18:36: <fizzie> 10:27:31 -!- dbc [ttm@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com] has joined #esoteric
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38 2004-05-30.txt:17:18:37: <fizzie> 11:15:54 -!- cedricshock [~cedric@209-181-58-5.eugn.qwest.net] has quit ["Leaving"]
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39 2004-05-30.txt:17:18:40: <fizzie> 17:19:19 -!- Toreun [~Toreun@ool-45738c44.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)]
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40 2004-05-30.txt:17:18:43: <fizzie> 17:25:43 -!- dbc [ttm@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com] has quit ["you have no chance to survive make your time."]
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41 2004-05-30.txt:19:46:28: <fizzie> meh, I think I've watched that scary @ long enough, and it doesn't seem to be going away. guess I must take steps.
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42 2004-05-30.txt:19:48:41: <fizzie> I think chanserv's the sanest person here and should thusly keep the only @.
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43 2004-06-04.txt:16:13:43: <fizzie> 16:39:21 -!- dbc [ttm@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com] has quit ["you have no chance to survive make your time."]
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44 2004-06-04.txt:16:13:49: <fizzie> 18:08:57 -!- Keymaker [~Keymaker@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi] has joined #esoteric
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45 2004-06-04.txt:18:44:34: <fizzie> "To submit new programs, email pkalliok@helsinki.fi."
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46 2004-06-12.txt:10:28:58: <fizzie> ($n = $_, print "entry: " . join(", ", map { "$_ -> " . $n->{$_} } keys %{$n}) . "
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47 ") foreach @entries;
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48 2004-06-12.txt:12:28:16: <fizzie> [2004-06-11 16:13:27] -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: clog, Toreun, lament, @ChanServ, kosmikus, mtve, grumpy_old_one, edwinb
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49 2004-06-12.txt:12:28:22: <fizzie> [2004-06-11 16:14:01] -!- Netsplit over, joins: @ChanServ, kosmikus, mtve
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50 2004-12-23.txt:09:47:29: <calamari-> email me if you make something boot up.. I'd love to see it! :) jeff@kidsquid.com
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51 2004-12-25.txt:14:12:37: <nooga> >?>5>>.@
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52 2004-12-28.txt:20:32:07: <calamari_> for example, I could add ( ) for previous and next disk byte, and @ to switch between screen/kybd and disk I/O
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53 2005-01-02.txt:20:11:19: <ZeroOne> Yoko Kanno/Origa/Shanti Snyder - Inner Universe (mebe plays crap Live @ Shinsen-Radio)
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54 2005-01-16.txt:12:05:42: <Keymaker> "!dlroW olleH"> #,_@
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55 2005-01-16.txt:12:07:42: <mtve> could be "!dlroW olleH">:# #,_@
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56 2005-01-16.txt:12:13:46: <Keymaker> anyways, here is the final version of this: "!dlroW olleH"> #, :# _@
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57 2005-01-16.txt:12:29:25: <Keymaker> ^_25*,@>?1v
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58 2005-01-16.txt:12:33:07: <mtve> >?1>?1>?1>?1>?1>?1>?1>?1>........25*,@
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59 2005-01-16.txt:12:42:59: <Keymaker> ^_25*,@v0?1v
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60 2005-01-16.txt:19:56:19: <mtve> 0?v#_25*,@ v
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61 2005-01-17.txt:15:01:31: <Keymaker> @,*52<
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62 2005-01-17.txt:16:28:35: <Keymaker> ^ -1 < ^<@,<
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63 2005-01-29.txt:00:31:05: <urger> Anyone interested should email me at nhbrr@yahoo.com
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64 2005-02-08.txt:19:28:09: <Keymaker> @
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65 2005-02-08.txt:19:32:20: <Keymaker> and so does the 'g'.. #b10g,@
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66 2005-02-10.txt:04:39:33: <calamari> arke: for more fun change the bf cell to hold binary values only. then you don't need both + and -, just a "not" operation, call it @. Now @@ is the same as doing nothing, so @ can be combined with >, call it }. So you get: < is <, > is }<}, @ is }< :)
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67 2005-03-04.txt:00:24:13: <{^Raven^}> i make ppl put an @ at the end of the input file
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68 2005-03-06.txt:07:57:58: <calamari> I also noticed an @ at the end of the file.. I suspect I corrupted you on that. oops!
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69 2005-03-06.txt:07:59:52: <calamari> I used the @ to make my interpreter easier to write.. laziness on my part
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70 2005-03-06.txt:08:08:40: <{^Raven^}> we won't need an '@' at the end of the file soon...we will be able to call the appropriate PESOIX function to check EOF :)
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71 2005-03-15.txt:15:48:59: <calamari> I think it'd be neat to leave the code in @VAR form until the very end, and have a routine that sorted the variables to minimize code size
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72 2005-03-15.txt:15:51:28: <calamari> I'm not sure if the algorithm I've come up will work, but here it is: 1) count interactions between variables (an interaction occurs linearly, as each @ is come across, for example @A[@B+@A-] would be two interactions on AB)
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73 2005-03-15.txt:16:10:16: <calamari> certain operations cause some >><< wastefulness, if they don't conform to the @VAR spec.. for example variable assign and read go off and do their own thing, but they still need to interface with the outside world, so you'll sometimes see wasted brackets around them. It uses fixed >>> to get to the known previous location so then the next @ call might cause <<<<<< and suddenly you have >>><<<<<<
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74 2005-03-16.txt:05:55:51: <Tefad> []++++++++++[>>+>+>++++++[<<+<+++>>>-]<<<<-] "A*$";?@![#>>+<<]>[>>]<<<<[>++<[-]]>.>. supposed to return H
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75 2005-03-16.txt:05:58:23: <Tefad> @ is supposed to be ignored
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76 2005-03-17.txt:20:53:55: <calamari> export CVSROOT=:ext:ravenswolf_@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/brainfuck
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77 2005-04-05.txt:15:38:59: <kipple> on the positive side, it will remove the need for the @ stack (which is an abomination) as a language feature
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78 2005-04-05.txt:15:39:50: <Keymaker> will the output be read from @ stack before o stack?
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79 2005-04-05.txt:15:41:28: <kipple> so the next version will add one operator and remove the special stack @
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80 2005-04-28.txt:17:48:05: <fizzie> fis@colin:~$ ./out
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81 2005-04-28.txt:17:48:11: <fizzie> fis@colin:~$ ./out
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82 2005-05-01.txt:16:36:33: <mtve> echo subscribe lang | mail listar@esoteric.sange.fi
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83 2005-05-05.txt:12:38:29: <fizzie> fis@colin:~/prog/eclipse-workspace/misc$ java -cp . org.gehennom.misc.BFRE 'a(a|b)*b|b(a|b)*a' > ~/prog/misc/brfd/re.bf
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84 2005-05-05.txt:12:38:35: <fizzie> fis@colin:~/prog/misc/brfd$ echo -n 'aabbab' | ./BRFD.EXE re.bf
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85 2005-05-05.txt:12:38:35: <fizzie> fis@colin:~/prog/misc/brfd$ echo -n 'aabbaa' | ./BRFD.EXE re.bf
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86 2005-05-05.txt:13:05:53: <Keymaker> "48*2+,>:#,_@ @_,#:>,+2*84
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87 2005-05-05.txt:13:16:02: <Keymaker> ##"57*:,,48*2+,>:#,_48*2+,57*, @ ,*75,+2*84_,#:>,+2*84,,:*75"#
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88 2005-05-05.txt:15:35:45: <fizzie> fis@colin:~/prog/misc/brfd$ echo -n '11.4.2002 11:03:22' | ./BRFD.EXE re.bf
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89 2005-05-05.txt:15:35:45: <fizzie> fis@colin:~/prog/misc/brfd$ echo -n '32.4.2002 11:03:22' | ./BRFD.EXE re.bf
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90 2005-05-05.txt:15:35:45: <fizzie> fis@colin:~/prog/misc/brfd$ echo -n '11.4.2002 11:60:22' | ./BRFD.EXE re.bf
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91 2005-05-06.txt:00:32:54: <fizzie> >~# :#,_@ (with EOF=0 semantics)
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92 2005-05-06.txt:14:06:33: <Keymakere> <> #"25*6*:,2+:,2+2/:,3+:,1-,>:#,_57*1-,@"
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93 2005-05-06.txt:19:20:45: <GregorR> M9&9A:75S:&]D9G5I9&AA<V9P;VEH96%W:6]P9FAE9'-A:6]F:&4@87=I;V9H
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94 2005-05-06.txt:22:56:15: <Keymaker> and as well there's @ and * and . and stuff like that not mentioned in the manual. well, maybe i should try harder to understand it. but someone should make a thue tutorial!
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95 2005-05-09.txt:18:01:39: <pgimeno> @ójò
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96 2005-05-10.txt:04:42:35: <Keymaker> but not that much, just remember that stack names are one character (a..z or @)
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97 2005-05-10.txt:17:54:47: <GregorR-L> Your program pointer is the @...
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98 2005-05-10.txt:17:54:57: <GregorR-L> And the @ wanders...
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99 2005-05-14.txt:00:06:19: <GregorR> BTW, my address is PresidentGregor@whitehouse.gov
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100 2005-05-16.txt:20:56:11: <fizzie> push @{$a}, [$r, $pk, [$ss, $start-1, $i, $si], [$es, $end-1, $i+$start, $ei]] if($#{$p} == 1 && $p->[0] eq $ss && $p->[1] eq $es);
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101 2005-05-18.txt:23:14:18: <GregorR-L> OK, I have everything working except input, output, @ and the string preprocessor :-P
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102 2005-05-18.txt:23:20:59: <kipple> btw, the @ stack will probably be gone in the next version... :D
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103 2005-05-18.txt:23:50:08: <GregorR-L> No @ yet >_<
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104 2005-05-18.txt:23:50:11: <GregorR-L> @ = annoying :-P
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105 2005-05-18.txt:23:51:10: <GregorR-L> If you push ASCII 113 onto @, does it pop 1-1-3 or 3-1-1?
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106 2005-05-18.txt:23:58:40: <kipple> is it the @?
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107 2005-05-19.txt:00:53:54: <kipple> the @ stack works a bit differently, but otherwise it seems to work fine :)
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108 2005-05-19.txt:19:24:55: <kipple> and the @ stack pads up to six (i think) zeroes
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109 2005-05-23.txt:22:25:43: <kipple> subscribe lang to listar@esoteric.sange.fi
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110 2005-05-29.txt:12:41:47: <jix> hmm.. is it possible to implement the @ stack in kipple
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111 2005-05-29.txt:12:48:52: <jix> hmm.. for the @ stack every push would be optimal.. but if one would like to have the opposite of @ every pop would be better
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112 2005-05-29.txt:14:35:10: <jix> hmm the parser doesn't parse (@>o) correctly
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113 2005-05-29.txt:15:00:35: <jix> but the @ stack doesn't work
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114 2005-05-30.txt:19:39:30: <jix> it's strategy: kill allTricks,findAndDestroy,logicex, self repair, destroy @... code, try 4 times to lay a bomb to the opponents position(i added a ! in the +++s .. no idea why^^), bombing!
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115 2005-06-02.txt:00:55:42: <graue> "r@!", if you can make sure there won't be an r at the beginning, will match only "!"
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116 2005-06-02.txt:16:43:23: <GregorR> Many of them had something like this: :@....;
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117 2005-06-02.txt:18:36:14: <graue> that was discussed on lang@esoteric a few years back
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118 2005-06-02.txt:19:20:09: <graue> ! and @ aren't allowed within groups
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119 2005-06-02.txt:19:21:13: <graue> so there is a way to search for a literal ! or @, do [!] or [@]
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120 2005-06-04.txt:07:43:55: <graue> news flash: sort language gets name, nice website, faux-academic paper! details @ http://www.oceanbase.org/graue/sortle/
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121 2005-06-04.txt:17:27:11: <graue> why does "k">@>o in kipple produce 7?
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122 2005-06-04.txt:17:28:23: <kipple> "k">@ pushes 3 values onto @, 1, 0 and 7. @>o only pushes one value onto o, nemaly 7
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123 2005-06-04.txt:17:32:47: <kipple> "k">@ (@>o) would be the way to do that
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124 2005-06-04.txt:17:40:50: <graue> not "k">(@>o)?
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125 2005-06-08.txt:00:43:40: <fizzie> Whee, my befunge program "12345@" prints out (a stack dump, at the end of the interpreter) 5, 4, 5, 1 and exits. :) :)
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126 2005-06-08.txt:00:45:58: <fizzie> Uh, "123+45@" was the program, I mean.
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127 2005-06-08.txt:00:47:01: <fizzie> I used perl -e 'print "123+45@", " " x 7999;' > test.bef to create the input.
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128 2005-06-08.txt:00:52:32: <fizzie> The topmost three voices select which parts of code to run, based on the current-command on the stack of the third voice, voices 4 and 5 contain the playfield, voices 6 and 8 are quite temporary, voices 7 and 9 hold the current IP and delta, voice 10 contains a '1' to drive the main loop (or 0 after a '@'), voice 11 has the befunge stack and voices 12 and 13 are temporary.
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129 2005-06-08.txt:00:53:55: <fizzie> It seems I've implemented only the befunge commands #, $, *, +, -, [0-9] and @. Will do the rest later.
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130 2005-06-10.txt:18:58:15: <Keymaker> lol @ lament :p
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131 2005-06-11.txt:22:19:52: <malaprop> PHP requires a $ in front of all variables; Perl requires $ in front of scalars and @ for hashes.
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132 2005-06-12.txt:00:24:26: <Keymaker> it will be there, probably character @
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133 2005-06-12.txt:21:55:03: <Keymaker> cpressey seems to have done nice job @ esowiki
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134 2005-06-14.txt:03:40:15: <calamari> it's magic :) cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/directnet checkout -P directnet
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135 2005-06-14.txt:19:56:55: <Keymaker> grrh.. it's annoying to read posts (@ google groups) where people talk about brainfuck and don't understand its usefulness and so on.. grrrrrrrh. release the hounds!
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136 2005-06-16.txt:21:21:32: <calamari> I'm using < = < and } = >@
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137 2005-06-16.txt:21:22:43: <jix> write it with > and @
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138 2005-06-16.txt:21:23:02: <jix> [>.<@] is [}<}.<<}]
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139 2005-06-16.txt:21:23:17: <jix> > => }<} < => < and @ => <}
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140 2005-06-16.txt:21:23:51: <calamari> because @ = <}
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141 2005-06-16.txt:21:25:15: <calamari> >[>.<@]<[>,<@]
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142 2005-06-16.txt:21:31:39: <jix> >>>>>>>>>[<<<<<<<<.>>>>>>>>@]<<<<<<<<<[>,<@] would work without changing the current translation
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143 2005-06-16.txt:21:52:22: <calamari> . = [@]>[@]>[@]@; (before } tanslation)
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144 2005-06-16.txt:21:52:48: <jix> no need for [@] arn't the bits always 0 ?
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145 2005-06-16.txt:21:52:49: <calamari> , = [@]>[@]@>[@];
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146 2005-06-16.txt:21:56:15: <jix> than it may work but with . = [@]>[@]>[@]@; and , = [@]>[@]@>[@]; it doesn't
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147 2005-06-16.txt:21:58:29: <calamari> even better would be [.@]<[,<]
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148 2005-06-16.txt:21:59:19: <calamari> actually, nm on [.@]
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149 2005-06-17.txt:10:29:01: <pgimeno> lament: lol @ http://z3.ca/~lament/pictures/flow.gif - Hofstadter would probably enjoy it very much
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150 2005-06-19.txt:12:27:05: <kipple> Panu Kalliokoski, pkalliok@cs.helsinki.fi
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151 2005-06-19.txt:16:10:58: <jix> and i need an exit character... @
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152 2005-06-19.txt:16:11:57: <jix> !,[@
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153 2005-06-19.txt:17:04:43: <jix> !,[@
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154 2005-06-19.txt:19:20:39: <jix> @15,556 cool
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155 2005-06-19.txt:20:02:11: <kipple> the cat example uses them, and also a @ operator which isn't mentioned
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156 2005-06-19.txt:20:02:42: <jix> i should scan my homework for the @ operator ;)
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157 2005-06-25.txt:19:18:59: <{^Raven^}> i dunno, it's nice writing otherwise pure brainfuck with just a few @myvar's scattered in
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158 2005-06-25.txt:19:20:38: <{^Raven^}> instead of myvar=2 using BF @myvar[-]++
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159 2005-06-25.txt:19:20:41: <calamari> although I'm pretty sure I came up with the @ syntax, but who knows, my memory could be going
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160 2005-06-25.txt:19:22:56: <{^Raven^}> ahh, i;'m not sure if it's me but BF @array(1)[-]@array(2) generates (>>>etc)[-]>[-]
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161 2005-06-25.txt:19:55:34: * {^Raven^} is playing with a version of BFBSAIC that doesn't expand @var's into arrows
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162 2005-06-27.txt:21:41:12: <calamari> it'd be nice to be able to use @var's inside the debugger, wouldn't it :)
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163 2005-06-27.txt:21:48:56: <{^Raven^}> for @vars, add an option to BFBASIC to output out a @var map at the top of the output
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164 2005-06-27.txt:21:49:18: <{^Raven^}> so maybe '@_T0 = 1
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165 2005-06-27.txt:21:49:33: <{^Raven^}> '@_T1 = 2
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166 2005-06-27.txt:22:06:33: <calamari> I can't remember.. are the @var's produced by bfbasic uppercase ?
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167 2005-06-28.txt:23:46:55: <calamari> got the @ stuff working in the debugger
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168 2005-06-29.txt:00:56:46: <{^Raven^}> Now if "Now @varname goes to the cell defined by varname (note: it can be derailed with < and >)" does what I think it does that's really cool
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169 2005-06-29.txt:00:57:43: <calamari> @a>@b will bump you one past actual @b
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170 2005-06-29.txt:01:01:25: <{^Raven^}> This will allow the integrity of the parser proper to be tested since all the @var stuff would be theoretically perfect!
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171 2005-06-29.txt:01:29:22: <calamari> raven: I think what what I did with the @vars is called a wimpmode :)
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172 2005-07-01.txt:00:03:47: <yrz\werk> yrz@inverno:~/wrk/eso$ tar cvzf hcbf5d-0.0.1.tar.gz hcbf5d-0.0.1/
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173 2005-07-01.txt:19:10:49: <{^Raven^}> calamari: two options: bfdebug works fine and babasic is flawed but seems to work 99% of the time, or bfdebug has an issue with embedded @vars
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174 2005-07-01.txt:19:13:07: <calamari> it will see the @var's and go there, then do > and < on top of that
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175 2005-07-01.txt:19:14:23: <calamari> perhaps I should require something like $$ that activates the @var's
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176 2005-07-01.txt:19:14:42: <{^Raven^}> bfdebug reads @var map, executes code as usual but when encountering an @var in the program it checks the current cell and complains if they do not agree
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177 2005-07-01.txt:19:15:40: <calamari> It's okay if @var and actual cell don't agree, in certain situations
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178 2005-07-01.txt:19:16:48: <{^Raven^}> but if @myvar is supposed to be in cell 34 and it is referenced while we are on cell 35 that tells us that a misalignment has occured
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179 2005-07-01.txt:19:17:32: <calamari> raven: it's fine.. for example, imagine if you did >@myvar
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180 2005-07-01.txt:19:24:53: <{^Raven^}> (code) @_G+@_Q+[
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181 2005-07-01.txt:19:25:00: <{^Raven^}> (pre) @_G[@_T[-]+@_G-]@_T[@_G+
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182 2005-07-01.txt:19:25:01: <{^Raven^}> (code) @_T0[-]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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183 2005-07-01.txt:19:25:06: <{^Raven^}> ++++++++@A[-]@_T0[@A+@_T0-]
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184 2005-07-01.txt:19:25:15: <{^Raven^}> @_T0[-]@A[@_T0+@_0+@A-]@_0[@A+@_0-]@_1[-]@_2[-]@_3[-]@_4[-]@_
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185 2005-07-01.txt:19:25:18: <{^Raven^}> T0[@_3+[@_4+@_0+@_3-]@_0[@_3+@_0-]+@_4----------[@_0-@_4[-]]@
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186 2005-07-01.txt:19:25:20: <{^Raven^}> _0[@_2+@_3[-]@_0-]@_2[@_4+@_0+@_2-]@_0[@_2+@_0-]+@_4---------
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187 2005-07-01.txt:19:25:21: <{^Raven^}> -[@_0-@_4[-]]@_0[@_1+@_2[-]@_0-]@_T0-]@_1[@_0++++++++[@_1++++
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188 2005-07-01.txt:19:25:23: <{^Raven^}> ++@_2++++++@_0-]@_1.@_2.[-]@_1[-]]@_2[@_0++++++++[@_2++++++@_
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189 2005-07-01.txt:19:25:25: <{^Raven^}> 0-]@_2.[-]]@_0++++++++[@_3++++++@_0-]@_3.[-]@_0++++++++++.[-]
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190 2005-07-01.txt:19:25:30: <{^Raven^}> (code) @_Q-
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191 2005-07-01.txt:19:25:32: <{^Raven^}> (post) @_T-]
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192 2005-07-01.txt:19:25:35: <{^Raven^}> (code) @_Q]
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193 2005-07-01.txt:19:35:52: <calamari> the line wrapping causes the @ and var to be split in some cases
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194 2005-07-01.txt:20:24:34: <calamari> raven: @_0-@_T0[@_0-@_T0-]@_0[@_T0+@_0-]@_T0[@_L1+@_G-@_T0[-]]
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195 2005-07-01.txt:20:24:41: <calamari> raven: notice the @G ?
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196 2005-07-01.txt:20:24:47: <calamari> err @_G
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197 2005-07-01.txt:20:29:17: <{^Raven^}> the NOT is @_0-@_T0[@_0-@_T0-]@_0[@_T0+@_0-]
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198 2005-07-10.txt:09:59:29: <tokigun> @ (terminate program); 0..9 (set A to 0..9)
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199 2005-07-19.txt:21:55:52: <graue> mailto:graue@oceanbase.org
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200 2005-07-20.txt:01:22:03: <pgimeno> >> :pgimeno!pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.pooles.rima-tde.net JOIN :#zz
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201 2005-07-20.txt:19:34:54: <jix> ;foreach(@d){if($_<0){foreach(@d){print"z($_);"}}else{print chr($_)}}
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202 2005-07-20.txt:19:45:33: <fizzie> And if you're trying to save characters, foreach(@d){print"z($_);"} is obviously suboptimal (while equivalent) to print"z($_);"foreach@d;
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203 2005-07-22.txt:11:20:48: <mtve> " @\# -2+{|~0*8-4~0.~*5+2\#{|1~/
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204 2005-07-22.txt:12:22:32: <mtve> " @\# -2+{|~0*8-4~0.~*5+2\#{|1~/
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205 2005-07-22.txt:12:51:19: <tokigun> @\#+,~-/
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206 2005-07-23.txt:17:28:54: <fizzie> fis@sesefras:~$ ./afbi mandelbrot.b fis@sesefras:~$
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207 2005-07-23.txt:17:29:12: <fizzie> fis@sesefras:~$ ./afbi mandelbrot.b
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208 2005-07-23.txt:17:29:16: <fizzie> fis@sesefras:~$
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209 2005-07-23.txt:20:29:26: <GregorR> With +- swapped for @?
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210 2005-07-23.txt:20:29:51: <calamari> some like +, I like @.. maybe both ?
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211 2005-07-23.txt:20:30:19: <GregorR> I'll just translate +- into @
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212 2005-07-23.txt:22:34:33: <calamari> @a[@x_0 i_0 @x_1 i_1 ... @x_n i_n @a], where at most one @x_n = a, and i_n=-1. Result a=0, x_n+=a*i_n
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213 2005-07-24.txt:19:18:31: <lindi-> GregorR: that runs mandelbrot.b in 26 seconds on pentium@2.8GHz. if i compile mandelbrot.b with BF2C.c and gcc it runs in 2.9 seconds
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214 2005-07-26.txt:21:31:34: <GregorR-W> Could you email it to AKAQuinn@hotmail.com ?
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215 2005-07-27.txt:17:20:08: <fizzie> fis@erottaja:~$ cat > test.c
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216 2005-07-27.txt:17:20:08: <fizzie> fis@erottaja:~$ gcc -o test test.c ; ./test
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217 2005-07-27.txt:17:54:12: <calamari> wish I defined } as @> instead of >@.. oh well
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218 2005-07-27.txt:17:58:12: <calamari> well, the original was >@ .. it feels dishonest to change it 5 years laterg
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219 2005-07-28.txt:01:56:32: <graue> !@#
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220 2005-07-28.txt:20:10:12: <calamari> this is the one I'm testing @[>>>>>>>>@[<@]>[>]<<<<<<<<<[@]>>>>>>>>[<]@>[@>]<<<<<<<<<@[@
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221 2005-07-29.txt:02:37:59: <calamari> graue: the main highlights: can save output to file, eof choices, 1-bit cell support, including }@* instructions, "block comments", fast run, interactive input, input echo
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222 2005-07-30.txt:22:27:10: <calamari> then you can jump to a cell with @name
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223 2005-07-30.txt:22:27:52: <jix> that's a problem because the @ character on a mac is on alt-l too
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224 2005-07-30.txt:22:28:50: <jix> @ on us
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225 2005-07-30.txt:23:00:31: <jix> @ and ~ are the only alt-letter ascii characters
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226 2005-07-30.txt:23:09:58: <jix> converting $a=0 and @a and such things to >>> and <<<
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227 2005-07-30.txt:23:11:46: <jix> you have a library with templates like @var1+@var2- and you can insert it replacing @var1 and @var2 with @a and @some_other_var
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228 2005-07-30.txt:23:21:21: <jix> doesn't @bla conflict with Bit @?
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229 2005-07-30.txt:23:23:24: <calamari> if you have a $abc=3 and you do @abc of course that'll conflict.. so don't do that ;)
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230 2005-07-31.txt:00:58:04: <GregorR> @ or something ...
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231 2005-07-31.txt:02:01:12: <calamari_> graue: in that scheme the only instructions would be @ and nop, depending on number of spaces, < > depending on turn direction, loops based on 3x3 block
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232 2005-08-04.txt:05:50:47: <Gs30ng> just @
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233 2005-08-10.txt:18:39:39: <calamari> commands: > = [>], @ = invert bit, if 1->0, then invert next bit (etc)
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234 2005-08-10.txt:18:40:38: <calamari> example of @:
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235 2005-08-10.txt:18:40:56: <calamari> @ = 1 0 0 0 0
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236 2005-08-10.txt:18:41:04: <calamari> @ = 0 1 0 0 0
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237 2005-08-10.txt:18:41:11: <calamari> @ = 1 1 0 0 0
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238 2005-08-10.txt:18:41:18: <calamari> @ = 0 0 1 0 0
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239 2005-08-10.txt:18:41:52: <int-e> @ is basically [>]+<[-<]> if the cell to the left of the pointer is 0.
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240 2005-08-10.txt:18:46:48: <int-e> I'm pretty sure that's wrong. right now you can model your machine as a single register machine with an increment (@) and a strange operation that divides by 2 repeatedly as long as the register's contents is odd.
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241 2005-08-10.txt:18:48:48: <calamari> hmm.. > seems redundant, since @ is enough to eventually build any state
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242 2005-08-11.txt:00:25:51: <kipple> rune@krokodille.com
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243 2005-08-16.txt:22:12:05: <jix> number are in base -5 using 'q' as 0, 'w' as 1, 'e' as 2, and '@' as 4. numbers end with a 'r' and use 't' as decimal point
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244 2005-08-18.txt:03:02:29: <int-e> 8+*~.@ prints an @?
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245 2005-08-20.txt:16:57:09: <nooga> :n,3100 @>n0 (2 !n !'
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246 2005-08-20.txt:19:25:21: <nooga> @ condition body - works like while(condition) body;
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247 2005-08-24.txt:00:07:04: <nooga> ~q1:i0:n##_0-01@|<in=in?>###_0i-010q##_0i!##_0i qP
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248 2005-08-24.txt:03:46:12: <nooga> !"7SADOL
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249 @1(3!"2> `;0!"2
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251 2005-08-26.txt:14:52:37: <tokigun> nooga: ~q1:i0@<i,239!?-#_0,242##_0i#_0q",239~q1:i0@<i,239!?-#_0,242##_0i#_0q",239*
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252 2005-08-26.txt:15:40:02: <tokigun> :i,299:b",21899 bottles of beer:n',210@i(4!+++++++b",213 on the wall,nb"1,n",230Take one down, pass it around,n:i-i1:b+++i"7 bottle?-i1"1s"0"8 of beer!+++b",213 on the wall.nn
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253 2005-08-31.txt:22:21:18: <fungebob> oh yea, thatd be great, jim@jimbomania.com
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254 2005-09-03.txt:17:56:03: <jix> @@^ is a NOP
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255 2005-09-03.txt:17:57:23: <jix> @@^BuT@@^ does nothing 2 times
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256 2005-09-03.txt:17:58:05: <wildhalcyon> What would @@^BuTBuT@@^ do? Anything?
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257 2005-09-07.txt:17:42:06: <jix> m[j]-=1}[x.index($&)-1]+";"}#esoteric@irc.freenode.net Jannis Harder 2005#
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258 2005-09-09.txt:14:53:18: <jix> m[j]-=1}[x.index($&)-1]+";"}#esoteric@irc.freenode.net Jannis Harder 2005#
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259 2005-09-09.txt:16:55:23: <nooga> @@count = 0
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260 2005-09-15.txt:01:46:58: <twobitsprite> its the one where the program resides in one array, and the data in the other, and there is a new operation '@' (or something) which causes the arrays to change locations so that now you are executing from the data array, or something
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261 2005-09-15.txt:01:54:35: <twobitsprite> it will... but I also plan to have this distributed, a la SETI@home...
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262 2005-09-18.txt:01:59:23: <telemakh0s> twobitsprite@gmail.com
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263 2005-09-18.txt:05:11:06: <heatsink> v{abc}@
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264 2005-09-22.txt:23:31:00: <Keymaker> "EGNUFEB NI MARGORP NEM LAER">:#,_@
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265 2005-09-24.txt:16:32:06: <Keymaker> ^%9_^#`9:+-*86<@,*52,<
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266 2005-09-26.txt:23:40:09: <GregorR> Aardwolf's email address: IAmAardwolfTheProgrammerOfEsotericLanguagesAndPerpetratorOfEmailsTooLongToRemember4546327859623793465789436257043265798042365783274803265704999036254789032430548903254321754089325748902564891065419078654890175489027503891754890237@server5435432.pop3.mail.aardwolfswebsiteaboutnothinginparticular.com
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267 2005-09-26.txt:23:52:10: <kipple> hmm. I managed to create the address .@krokodille.com. I wonder if it will work....
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268 2005-09-28.txt:14:04:34: <Wildhalcyon> They should have used the @ sign for it
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269 2005-10-03.txt:18:45:21: <chips> result: '@'
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270 2005-10-04.txt:18:15:38: <jix> it took years until the first girl joined #macintosh@euirc
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271 2005-10-06.txt:06:02:54: <Gs30ng> A -> @
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272 2005-10-08.txt:21:46:49: <jix> befunge <@> gnu beef
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273 2005-10-11.txt:16:43:03: <nooga> #include @ ircnet :D
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274 2005-10-19.txt:05:42:02: <lament> 99 9[1-$][\$@$@$@$@\/*=[1-$$[%-$@]?0=[\$.' ,\]?]?]#
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275 2005-10-19.txt:07:18:04: <lament> !99 9[1-$][\$@$@$@$@\/*=[1-$$[%-$@]?0=[\$.' ,\]?]?]#
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276 2005-10-19.txt:07:28:56: <lament> !99 9[1-$][\$@$@$@$@\/*=[1-$$[%-$@]?0=[\$.' ,\]?]?]#
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277 2005-10-19.txt:16:09:03: <jix> !99 9[1-$][\$@$@$@$@\/*=[1-$$[%-$@]?0=[\$.' ,\]?]?]#.
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278 2005-10-19.txt:23:49:35: <lament> ![[1O1O>][$@\-@]#%]m:
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279 2005-10-19.txt:23:53:00: <lament> ![[1O1O>][$@\-\]#%]m:
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280 2005-10-19.txt:23:54:35: <lament> ![[1O1O>2O2O=|][$@\-\]#%]m:
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281 2005-10-20.txt:00:01:10: <falsebot> [[1, 'O', 1, 'O', '>', 2, 'O', 2, 'O', '=', '|'], ['$', '@', '\', '-', '\'], '#', '%']
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282 2005-10-20.txt:03:42:50: <calamari> !1 2 4@.
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283 2005-10-20.txt:03:42:56: <calamari> !1 2 4@...
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284 2005-10-20.txt:03:45:55: <calamari> !3 2$@+\..
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285 2005-10-20.txt:03:46:40: <calamari> !2 3$@+\..
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286 2005-10-20.txt:03:46:50: <calamari> !3 2$@+\..
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287 2005-10-20.txt:03:46:58: <calamari> !3 5$@+\..
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288 2005-10-20.txt:03:47:01: <calamari> !3 5$@+\. .
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289 2005-10-20.txt:03:47:11: <calamari> !3 5$@+\." ".
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290 2005-10-20.txt:03:47:15: <calamari> !5 8$@+\." ".
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291 2005-10-20.txt:03:47:22: <calamari> !8 13$@+\." ".
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292 2005-10-20.txt:03:49:41: <lament> !1 1 10a:[a;0>][$@+\." "." "]#
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293 2005-10-20.txt:03:50:22: <lament> !1 1 10a:[a;0>][O1O1$@+\." "." "]#
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294 2005-10-20.txt:03:50:56: <lament> !1 1 10a:[a;0>][$@+\." "]#
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295 2005-10-20.txt:03:51:04: <lament> !1 1 10a:[a;0>][O1O1$@+\." "]#
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296 2005-10-20.txt:03:54:07: <calamari> !0 1 10a:[a;0>][$@+\." "a;1-a:]#
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297 2005-10-20.txt:03:58:38: <calamari> !0 1 10a:[a;0>][$@ a;1-a:a;." "]#
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298 2005-10-20.txt:03:58:42: <calamari> !0 1 10a:[a;0>][$@+ a;1-a:a;." "]#
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299 2005-10-20.txt:04:00:30: <calamari> !0 1 10a:[a;0>][$@+\$." "a;1-a:]#
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300 2005-10-20.txt:04:00:40: <calamari> !0 1 10a:[a;0>][$@+\$.@" "a;1-a:]#
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