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1 2006-09-02.txt:09:45:34: <Razor-X> http://anysize.org/~sukoshi/compressedtest.pdf
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2 2006-09-02.txt:16:09:58: <GreyKnight> slightly buggy test: http://anysize.org/~sukoshi/compressedtest.pdf
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3 2006-12-16.txt:19:30:48: -!- Sukoshi has joined #esoteric.
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4 2006-12-16.txt:20:41:43: <Sukoshi> mh
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5 2006-12-16.txt:23:57:07: <Sukoshi> But, there's a whole generation of people who know nothing of torrent and only demand subpar tasteless YouTube clips!
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6 2006-12-16.txt:23:57:23: <Sukoshi> Will you really deny them of their happiness?!
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7 2006-12-16.txt:23:57:32: <Sukoshi> *subpar quality
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8 2006-12-16.txt:23:59:46: <Sukoshi> You're joking, right?
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9 2006-12-17.txt:00:00:17: * Sukoshi sure hopes SimonRC is joking.
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10 2006-12-17.txt:00:02:39: <Sukoshi> :P
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11 2006-12-17.txt:00:08:12: <Sukoshi> If you have a fd for a new file, and mmap memory of that fd to the desired length of the new file (bigger than the size of the file now, obviously) and write to the mmap'd memory, does it write correctly?
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12 2006-12-17.txt:00:11:21: <Sukoshi> Maps a file's contents in virtual memory to a pointer, with the space occupying a desired length.
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13 2006-12-17.txt:00:15:58: <Sukoshi> Yup.
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14 2006-12-17.txt:00:16:50: <Sukoshi> POSIX compatible.
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15 2006-12-17.txt:00:17:21: <Sukoshi> I have no idea.
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16 2006-12-17.txt:00:17:47: <Sukoshi> Windows doesen't really have much to hook onto the lower portions of the OS, so I have no idea.
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17 2006-12-17.txt:03:17:30: <Sukoshi> bsmntbombdood: Because IO with mmap is faster than IO without.
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18 2006-12-17.txt:03:18:00: <Sukoshi> Plus it's easier to follow pointer arithmetic than reading arithmetic, just IMO.
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19 2006-12-17.txt:19:33:03: <Sukoshi> Is it counterproductive to mmap a file, then munmap it, only to write to it later?
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20 2006-12-17.txt:20:25:32: <oerjan> Sukoshi: I saw your mmap question in the logs
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21 2006-12-17.txt:20:57:36: <Sukoshi> Oh.
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22 2006-12-17.txt:20:57:38: <Sukoshi> Poop.
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23 2006-12-17.txt:20:58:41: <Sukoshi> Because I don't want to enlarge the file.
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24 2006-12-17.txt:20:59:09: <Sukoshi> If the transfer interrupts, you'll just have a large zero-padded file, which I don't really want.
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25 2006-12-17.txt:20:59:18: <Sukoshi> I'd rather have a file with no padding.
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26 2006-12-18.txt:06:17:10: <Sukoshi> No.
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27 2006-12-18.txt:17:49:57: <Sukoshi> Please prove that you are turing complete for me.
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28 2006-12-18.txt:18:09:38: <Sukoshi> On the other hand, if an op decides to kick GregorR, he won't be alive.
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29 2006-12-18.txt:18:33:04: <Sukoshi> Seems not.
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30 2006-12-18.txt:20:59:02: <Sukoshi> Hmm. Has anyone looked at GNU Epsilon?
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31 2006-12-18.txt:23:41:11: <Sukoshi> I take that as a no?
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32 2006-12-18.txt:23:42:08: <Sukoshi> Thank you for your prompt reply :P
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33 2006-12-18.txt:23:42:34: <Sukoshi> 早い答でありがとうございます。
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34 2006-12-19.txt:05:17:31: <Sukoshi> Well, his patience lasted him one minute, and then he left.
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35 2006-12-20.txt:05:59:30: <Sukoshi> So, is Plof a whole bunch of Flex/Bison?
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36 2006-12-20.txt:06:01:21: <Sukoshi> Aha. A real programmer, huh? ;)
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37 2006-12-20.txt:06:01:45: <Sukoshi> I'm attemping to follow a Ruby discussion in Japanese.
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38 2006-12-20.txt:06:02:30: <Sukoshi> Actually, enough to follow most of the conversation without resorting to the dictionary.
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39 2006-12-20.txt:06:03:03: <Sukoshi> The computer words and some other stuff get me.
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40 2006-12-20.txt:06:03:19: <Sukoshi> Apparently a packed Ruby Struct is a good structure to use for something like an address book.
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41 2006-12-20.txt:06:03:47: <Sukoshi> I crunch some 60 words a day for a while, then go on a massive review.
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42 2006-12-20.txt:06:03:57: <Sukoshi> I'm in a review phase now.
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43 2006-12-20.txt:06:10:46: <Sukoshi> Meh. Obviously Japanese people aren't as clean as they're advertised to be.
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44 2006-12-20.txt:06:34:48: -!- Sukoshi is now known as Razor-X.
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45 2006-12-20.txt:06:34:55: -!- Razor-X is now known as Sukoshi.
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46 2006-12-20.txt:17:11:46: <Sukoshi> When it's below freezing, us Californians wonder what the hell is going on in the world.
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47 2006-12-20.txt:17:12:14: <pikhq> Sukoshi: Need an extra "i" for your name to be valid Romanised Japanese. ;)
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48 2006-12-20.txt:17:12:36: <Sukoshi> I do?
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49 2006-12-20.txt:17:13:05: <Sukoshi> My IME and xjdic and kinput2 read it correctly.
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50 2006-12-20.txt:17:13:27: <Sukoshi> My IME == mule.
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51 2006-12-20.txt:17:13:55: <pikhq> Sukoshi: The word "sukoshii" has an elongated "i".
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52 2006-12-20.txt:17:14:29: <Sukoshi> My dictionary says Sukoshi, with no extra `i'.
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53 2006-12-20.txt:17:14:39: <Sukoshi> It's a な-adj.
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54 2006-12-20.txt:17:14:44: <Sukoshi> 少し
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55 2006-12-20.txt:17:15:07: <Sukoshi> （勝つ）
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56 2006-12-20.txt:17:15:21: <Sukoshi> Nope.
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57 2006-12-20.txt:17:15:34: <Sukoshi> Maybe you're thinking of 小さい
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58 2006-12-20.txt:17:15:44: <Sukoshi> Small quantity, little, few.
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59 2006-12-20.txt:17:17:57: <Sukoshi> Of course, 小さ（な） is also valid ... ;)
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60 2006-12-20.txt:17:18:04: <Sukoshi> kinput2 out of Emacs, mule in Emacs.
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61 2006-12-20.txt:17:18:17: <Sukoshi> Mule is incredibly, because it can switch encodings and everything.
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62 2006-12-20.txt:17:18:20: <Sukoshi> *incredible
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63 2006-12-20.txt:17:18:36: <Sukoshi> kinput2 then.
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64 2006-12-20.txt:17:18:47: <Sukoshi> kinput2 with canna as your dictionary.
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65 2006-12-20.txt:17:19:13: <Sukoshi> kinput2 has nothing to do with KDE.
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66 2006-12-20.txt:17:19:26: <Sukoshi> ... Or any other WM for that matter.
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67 2006-12-20.txt:17:19:52: <Sukoshi> For kinput2?!?!
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68 2006-12-20.txt:17:20:13: <Sukoshi> Heh.
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69 2006-12-20.txt:17:21:32: <Sukoshi> There y'are.
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70 2006-12-20.txt:17:24:10: <Sukoshi> Run ``kinput2 -canna &'' somewhere.
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71 2006-12-20.txt:17:24:39: <Sukoshi> Then you have to mess with some envars, like LC_ALL, IIRC.
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72 2006-12-20.txt:17:25:29: * Sukoshi shrugs.
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73 2006-12-20.txt:17:25:46: <Sukoshi> Mmmf. It's been a while since I've used apt.
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74 2006-12-20.txt:17:25:59: <Sukoshi> I've gotten used to the Slackware way of things, I guess.
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75 2006-12-20.txt:17:28:29: <Sukoshi> Like I said, restart your X application with your modified envars.
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76 2006-12-20.txt:17:29:16: <Sukoshi> And then you use Ctrl+Shift, IIRC, (dependant on package/version/whatever) to start the IME.
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77 2006-12-20.txt:17:29:19: <Sukoshi> Read the manual, I suggest.
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78 2006-12-20.txt:18:10:46: <Sukoshi> Why?
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79 2006-12-20.txt:18:11:12: <Sukoshi> Oh. Are you supposed to use your pinky for parentheses or something?
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80 2006-12-20.txt:18:11:27: * Sukoshi learned Dvorak the homebrew way.
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81 2006-12-20.txt:18:11:42: <Sukoshi> My middle finger goes on parentheses.
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82 2006-12-20.txt:18:11:52: <Sukoshi> I need an idea for a project in Lisp, ya know.
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83 2006-12-20.txt:18:12:48: <Sukoshi> Blah. Time to write an HTTP parser :(
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84 2006-12-20.txt:18:12:59: <Sukoshi> And client. A very limited client, though.
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85 2006-12-20.txt:18:14:51: <Sukoshi> Guh. But GCC is a pain in the *arse* to compile.
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86 2006-12-20.txt:18:15:04: <pikhq> Sukoshi: Yes, but I know how to build GCC.
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87 2006-12-20.txt:18:15:17: <Sukoshi> Well, it takes ages.
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88 2006-12-20.txt:18:15:33: <Sukoshi> Yeah. I'll bet it takes less time than Firefox2.
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89 2006-12-20.txt:18:15:49: <GregorR-W> Sukoshi: I can say for a fact that it does.
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90 2006-12-20.txt:18:16:00: <Sukoshi> Heh.
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91 2006-12-20.txt:18:16:18: <Sukoshi> Slackware here.
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92 2006-12-20.txt:18:17:46: <Sukoshi> Well uh... bind the slot then?
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93 2006-12-20.txt:18:29:59: <Sukoshi> No.
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94 2006-12-20.txt:18:30:20: <Sukoshi> Error: Twice is not a valid range bound.
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95 2006-12-20.txt:20:03:58: <Sukoshi> So, are functions first-class datatypes?
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96 2006-12-20.txt:20:06:22: <Sukoshi> Or, a more general structure, like Lisp's cond.
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97 2006-12-20.txt:20:06:51: <Sukoshi> cond( {condition, true code, false code} { ... } {default, code} )
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98 2006-12-20.txt:20:20:30: <GregorR-W> Sukoshi: Yes, functions are first-class data types, Plof is intended to be a hybrid of functional and imperative.
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99 2006-12-20.txt:20:21:27: <Sukoshi> Hooray.
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100 2006-12-20.txt:20:21:42: <Sukoshi> He's a lisp hater.
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101 2006-12-20.txt:20:22:09: <Sukoshi> It works in Lisp because of the way the parentheses work.
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102 2006-12-20.txt:20:22:31: <Sukoshi> (if pred expr1 expr2)
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103 2006-12-20.txt:20:22:33: <GregorR-W> The basic syntactic structure of Plof and lisp are too different to compare. eg, exactly what Sukoshi just said.
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104 2006-12-20.txt:20:23:02: <Sukoshi> Remember that if you want a block in IF, you have to use PROGN (or BEGIN in Scheme).
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105 2006-12-20.txt:20:24:11: <Sukoshi> Heh. Darcs is a **** on Solaris, I hear.
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106 2006-12-20.txt:20:24:21: <Sukoshi> A friend of mine is trying unsuccessfully to setup revision control systems.
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107 2006-12-20.txt:20:24:39: <Sukoshi> You could have something like: (defun meh () (if 3 4 5)) in CL which would always return 4.
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108 2006-12-20.txt:20:25:15: <Sukoshi> I like what decentralized offers.
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109 2006-12-20.txt:20:25:24: <Sukoshi> Especially now that I've come up with a dead project maintainer.
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110 2006-12-20.txt:20:25:56: <Sukoshi> Inactive ;D
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111 2006-12-20.txt:20:26:09: <Sukoshi> Well, I lie. He just came back to life yesterday.
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112 2006-12-20.txt:20:26:24: <Sukoshi> ....Which is a little late, since I've already made some really big patches.
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113 2006-12-20.txt:20:31:10: <Sukoshi> Heh. Which is why you don't.
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114 2006-12-20.txt:20:31:17: <Sukoshi> It takes more RAM to compile than this box has.
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115 2006-12-20.txt:20:49:11: <Sukoshi> Even then, I don't think functions are first-class data types in Python.
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116 2006-12-20.txt:20:49:54: <Sukoshi> Oh. Cool.
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117 2006-12-20.txt:20:50:35: <Sukoshi> You can do everything with a function that you can do with every other data type.
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118 2006-12-20.txt:20:50:41: <Sukoshi> Like integers, characters, etc.
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119 2006-12-20.txt:20:51:12: <Sukoshi> In most cases, passing functions as arguments is a big step in that direction.
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120 2006-12-20.txt:22:15:49: <Sukoshi> Hmmm. Is there a more effecient way in parsing HTTP messages rather than doing a whole bunch of strncmp or memcmp?
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121 2006-12-20.txt:22:16:39: <Sukoshi> Well... I was wondering if there's some other commonly used method.
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122 2006-12-20.txt:22:16:53: <Sukoshi> If not, I'm a gonna hope Duff's Device is fast.
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123 2006-12-20.txt:22:17:40: <Sukoshi> Oh. But Duff's Device is for copying, doh.
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124 2006-12-20.txt:22:17:54: <Sukoshi> Lemme take a look at fnord's implementation of memcmp.
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125 2006-12-20.txt:22:19:04: <Sukoshi> Ah. Pretty nifty.
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126 2006-12-20.txt:22:19:12: <SimonRC> Sukoshi: You could consider the message format to be a grammar of 1-character tokens and try to make a state-machine-based parser.
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127 2006-12-20.txt:22:19:25: <Sukoshi> Yes, I was thinking of doing that too.
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128 2006-12-20.txt:22:19:33: <Sukoshi> But that's a complex beast.
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129 2006-12-20.txt:22:20:00: <Sukoshi> Heck, even in C, a parser like that is a total PAIN.
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130 2006-12-20.txt:22:20:30: <Sukoshi> Uggh. Why couldn't HTTP use something sensible like opcodes? -_-''
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131 2006-12-20.txt:22:20:46: <Sukoshi> SimonRC: Mmmf. Would it produce something that effecient though?
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132 2006-12-20.txt:22:21:13: <Sukoshi> Nope.
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133 2006-12-20.txt:22:21:18: <Sukoshi> I just tend to mistrust generated code.
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134 2006-12-20.txt:22:21:31: <Sukoshi> *Cough* String to BF *cough*
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135 2006-12-20.txt:22:21:36: <SimonRC> Sukoshi: ah, so you are one of those assembley nuts?
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136 2006-12-20.txt:22:21:53: <Sukoshi> No, but this project is pretty high on the low-level side.
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137 2006-12-20.txt:22:22:23: <Sukoshi> ASM optimization is going to come at a later step, not now. For now, I think I'll use Fnord's usage of memcmp for inspiration.
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138 2006-12-20.txt:22:22:32: <Sukoshi> Maybe do something similar to Duff's case bastardization.
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139 2006-12-20.txt:22:24:40: <Sukoshi> Heh. True there.
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140 2006-12-20.txt:22:25:16: <Sukoshi> But, I don't know if parser generator code is effecient or not.
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141 2006-12-20.txt:22:25:41: <SimonRC> Sukoshi: very efficient
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142 2006-12-20.txt:22:25:55: <Sukoshi> Aha. Good.
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143 2006-12-20.txt:22:27:48: <Sukoshi> Well, I wanna see if this code is more effecient than parser generator code.
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144 2006-12-20.txt:22:27:59: <Sukoshi> God help me, I'm going to commit case hell.
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145 2006-12-20.txt:22:29:25: <Sukoshi> IRP?
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146 2006-12-20.txt:22:29:38: <SimonRC> Sukoshi: allow me to demonstrate.
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147 2006-12-20.txt:22:29:46: <GregorR-W> Sukoshi: http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/IRP
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148 2006-12-20.txt:22:30:25: <Sukoshi> So is *that* why all those people have been coming?
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149 2006-12-20.txt:22:30:57: <Sukoshi> I thought they wanted to prove us turing complete, I thought we were special ;-;
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150 2006-12-20.txt:22:39:32: <Sukoshi> I'm a total web programming incompetent :P
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151 2006-12-20.txt:22:40:03: <Sukoshi> Anything that depends on something like interface, user approachability, or aesthetic quality I fail at.
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152 2006-12-20.txt:22:40:58: <SimonRC> Sukoshi: OTOH, I have a tendancy ot hack URLs.
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153 2006-12-21.txt:09:24:16: <Sukoshi> Write an OS for me.
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154 2006-12-21.txt:16:46:01: -!- Sukoshi has quit (Remote closed the connection).
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155 2006-12-21.txt:16:49:48: -!- Sukoshi has joined #esoteric.
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156 2006-12-22.txt:00:03:54: -!- Sukoshi has quit (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net).
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157 2006-12-22.txt:00:33:13: -!- Sukoshi` has joined #esoteric.
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158 2006-12-22.txt:00:52:57: -!- Sukoshi` is now known as Sukoshi.
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159 2006-12-22.txt:10:15:33: -!- Sukoshi has quit (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net).
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160 2006-12-22.txt:11:04:21: -!- Sukoshi has joined #esoteric.
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161 2006-12-22.txt:15:58:02: <Sukoshi> Please prove Malbolge Turing complete.
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162 2006-12-22.txt:17:28:35: <Sukoshi> Error: Interpreter does not accept slang.
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163 2006-12-22.txt:17:28:57: <Sukoshi> Warning: `wats' is interpreted as `what's'
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164 2006-12-22.txt:17:31:38: <GregorR> Looks to me like your interpreter just accepted slang by translating it appropriately, Sukoshi.
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165 2006-12-22.txt:17:32:01: <Sukoshi> No, it interpreted `wats' as a spelling error.
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166 2006-12-22.txt:17:32:58: <Sukoshi> Mmmf. I need to code some more CL stuff. I've spent too long too close to C code.
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167 2006-12-22.txt:17:49:08: * Sukoshi pities Asztal.
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168 2006-12-22.txt:17:49:18: <Sukoshi> At least I never had to go there :P
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169 2006-12-22.txt:17:54:35: <Sukoshi> I need to look at Plof some time.
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170 2006-12-22.txt:17:54:53: <Sukoshi> But right now, I'm deferring all my schoolwork for coding work, so Plof will be more of a distraction.
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171 2006-12-22.txt:17:54:58: <Sukoshi> Hehehe.
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172 2006-12-22.txt:18:48:33: <Sukoshi> Wow GregorR.
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173 2006-12-22.txt:18:48:40: <Sukoshi> Banning your own creation?
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174 2006-12-22.txt:18:49:09: <Sukoshi> The creator of Frankenstein said so too.
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175 2006-12-22.txt:18:49:22: <Sukoshi> And, we got a cool novel and a bunch of overdone tasteless horror movies from it.
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176 2006-12-22.txt:18:49:43: <Sukoshi> What you say?!
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177 2006-12-22.txt:18:49:56: <Sukoshi> What you say?!
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178 2006-12-22.txt:18:49:58: <Sukoshi> What you say?!
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179 2006-12-22.txt:18:50:12: <Sukoshi> Yeah.
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180 2006-12-22.txt:18:50:46: <Sukoshi> s/creator/author/
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181 2006-12-22.txt:18:52:11: <Sukoshi> What you say?!
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182 2006-12-22.txt:18:52:21: * GregorR punches Sukoshi.
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183 2006-12-22.txt:18:52:52: <Sukoshi> Hey. You shouldn't hit girls.
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184 2006-12-22.txt:18:53:23: <Sukoshi> -_- Darn you!
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185 2006-12-22.txt:18:53:24: <Sukoshi> And I'm only quoting Slipstick Libby.
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186 2006-12-22.txt:18:53:59: <Sukoshi> In Methusalah's Children, near the end, Lazarus tells Libby that next they'll ban sex, and Libby says ``What you say?! What hell!''
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187 2006-12-22.txt:18:54:28: <Sukoshi> That too.
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188 2006-12-22.txt:18:55:04: <Sukoshi> I and some friends at school were thinking of making a play production we'd do in front of everyone at school preseting the Zero Wing bad translation beginning.
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189 2006-12-22.txt:18:55:10: <Sukoshi> I wanted to be Katz.
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190 2006-12-22.txt:18:55:53: <Sukoshi> I mean, who doesen't want to face a bunch of people and say ``Good Evening Gentlemen. All Your Base Are Belong To Us. Make your time!''
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191 2006-12-22.txt:18:56:53: <Sukoshi> Syntax Error: IRP must go on.
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192 2006-12-22.txt:18:57:07: <Sukoshi> bsmntbombdood: Take a look at the IRP spam.
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193 2006-12-22.txt:18:57:41: <Sukoshi> Yup ;)
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194 2006-12-22.txt:18:57:53: <Sukoshi> GregorR: Fetch me a sandwhich.
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195 2006-12-22.txt:18:58:13: <Sukoshi> What you say?!
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196 2006-12-22.txt:18:58:34: <Sukoshi> What you say?!
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197 2006-12-22.txt:18:59:21: <Sukoshi> No.
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198 2006-12-22.txt:18:59:52: <Sukoshi> Somebody set up us the bot!
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199 2006-12-22.txt:19:00:48: <Sukoshi> EgoBot's back!!!!!111111oneoneoneenoenoeno!!!!
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200 2006-12-22.txt:19:01:16: <Sukoshi> Meh.
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201 2006-12-22.txt:19:01:31: <Sukoshi> Oh GregorR, does Plof have lexical or dynamic bindings, or both?
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202 2006-12-22.txt:19:02:48: <Sukoshi> Awww.
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203 2006-12-22.txt:19:03:07: <Sukoshi> That's nifty.
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204 2006-12-22.txt:19:03:21: <Sukoshi> Is the object system of Plof message passing?
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205 2006-12-22.txt:19:05:02: <Sukoshi> Is D really that different from C?
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206 2006-12-22.txt:19:05:37: <Sukoshi> I mean, different enough that you can't read it?
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207 2006-12-22.txt:19:06:02: <Sukoshi> ................
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208 2006-12-22.txt:19:06:16: <Sukoshi> Anything that wants to be C++ needs to dip itself in HCl.
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209 2006-12-22.txt:19:06:48: <Sukoshi> I'm sorry, I've seen too many cases where you have to use stupid templates and std::bs types that could be more effeciently wrapped in a struct.
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210 2006-12-22.txt:19:07:04: <Sukoshi> I once attempted to generate a SWIG wrapper for a C++ library. I failed.
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211 2006-12-22.txt:19:07:39: <Sukoshi> In comparison to C?
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212 2006-12-22.txt:19:07:52: <GregorR> Sukoshi: Nah, in comparison to other-OO-language-X.
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213 2006-12-22.txt:19:07:56: <Sukoshi> Oh ;D
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214 2006-12-22.txt:19:08:24: <Sukoshi> I've been working on low-level stuff for the last few days pretty intensely, so I've been doing a lot of pointer arithmetic.
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215 2006-12-22.txt:19:08:42: <Sukoshi> At one point a parser, so, pure pointer arithmetic there :).
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216 2006-12-22.txt:19:09:46: <Sukoshi> It was a fairly simple parser, not complex enough to need yacc.
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217 2006-12-22.txt:19:10:19: <Sukoshi> Of course, that didn't stop me from getting it wrong quite a few times :D
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218 2006-12-22.txt:19:11:09: <Sukoshi> Man. A WM in 76 lines.
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219 2006-12-22.txt:19:11:11: <Sukoshi> So awesome.
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220 2006-12-22.txt:19:11:44: <Sukoshi> Yes. The CL version.
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221 2006-12-22.txt:19:13:08: <Sukoshi> Yeah, I'm taking a small hiatus from C to begin work on a WM.
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222 2006-12-22.txt:19:13:18: <Sukoshi> But I'll be back with it later this afternoon.
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223 2006-12-22.txt:19:13:56: <Sukoshi> Hold on. I'm about to run it in Xnest.
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224 2006-12-22.txt:19:14:19: <Sukoshi> Oh? What's that?
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225 2006-12-22.txt:19:15:17: <Sukoshi> Awesome.
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226 2006-12-22.txt:19:15:21: <Sukoshi> Ion is too complicated.
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227 2006-12-22.txt:19:15:39: <Sukoshi> This'll borrow ideas from Ion, Ratpoison (StumpWM), and CLFSWM.
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228 2006-12-22.txt:19:16:01: <Sukoshi> Yeah, Xnest is an old piece of poop.
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229 2006-12-22.txt:19:16:47: <Sukoshi> Guh. Where's the source.
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230 2006-12-22.txt:19:16:55: <Sukoshi> Common Lisp FS Window Manager.
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231 2006-12-22.txt:19:17:00: <Sukoshi> I don't remember what FS means :P
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232 2006-12-22.txt:19:17:36: <Sukoshi> Stupid Xephyr.
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233 2006-12-22.txt:19:18:39: <Sukoshi> Oh. It's part of the Xorg package?
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234 2006-12-22.txt:19:18:44: <GregorR> Sukoshi: Yeah.
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235 2006-12-22.txt:19:18:49: <Sukoshi> Ugggh. Why can't they package the source on its own -_-''
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236 2006-12-22.txt:19:18:55: <GregorR> Sukoshi: I know X_X
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237 2006-12-22.txt:19:20:18: <Sukoshi> I hope the Xorg source isn't large.
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238 2006-12-22.txt:19:20:44: <Sukoshi> Who am I kidding. It's probably gigantic.
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239 2006-12-22.txt:19:21:04: <GregorR> Sukoshi: You know they split Xorg into a bunch of autotool'd packages, right?
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240 2006-12-22.txt:19:21:14: <Sukoshi> Uh....
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241 2006-12-22.txt:19:21:16: <Sukoshi> *Cough*
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242 2006-12-22.txt:19:21:52: <Sukoshi> Oh wow.
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243 2006-12-22.txt:19:24:56: <Sukoshi> UGGGH. Xorg has moved to git?
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244 2006-12-22.txt:19:25:04: <Sukoshi> I just grabbed the CVS source -_-
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245 2006-12-22.txt:19:25:23: <Sukoshi> Heh. Yah.
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246 2006-12-22.txt:19:25:35: <Sukoshi> In the meantime, I'll use Xnest.
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247 2006-12-22.txt:19:48:10: <Sukoshi> Egobot is ewww.
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248 2006-12-22.txt:19:48:58: <Sukoshi> You really love signals, don't you GregorR ?
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249 2006-12-22.txt:19:49:41: <Sukoshi> Meh :P
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250 2006-12-22.txt:19:49:46: <Sukoshi> Wait... that's C++ code?
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251 2006-12-22.txt:19:50:01: <Sukoshi> Where's the abstract-hell templates and the obfuscated C++-only constructs?
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252 2006-12-22.txt:19:50:07: <Sukoshi> WHAT SORT OF A C++ CODER ARE YOU?!
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253 2006-12-22.txt:19:50:42: <Sukoshi> YOU FIEND! WHY AREN'T YOU USING BOOST?!
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254 2006-12-22.txt:19:53:35: <Sukoshi> ;D
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255 2006-12-22.txt:21:04:05: <Sukoshi> GRRR
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256 2006-12-22.txt:21:04:15: <Sukoshi> Why is Xnest rejecting connections?!
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257 2006-12-22.txt:21:05:29: <Sukoshi> Darn you legacy apps. Darn you all to HECK!
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258 2006-12-22.txt:21:10:57: <Sukoshi> Ah. -ac is what makes it work.
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259 2006-12-22.txt:21:11:04: <Sukoshi> .... An option mysteriously not present in the manpage.
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260 2006-12-22.txt:21:13:56: <Sukoshi> .... Maybe it's time I compile Xephyr.
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261 2006-12-22.txt:21:16:27: <Sukoshi> TinyWM.
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262 2006-12-22.txt:21:18:04: <Sukoshi> You know... you may be right!
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263 2006-12-22.txt:21:21:54: <Sukoshi> Don't worry. X is a horrible mess.
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264 2006-12-22.txt:21:22:10: <Sukoshi> .... Does *everyone* use the same autoconf script?
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265 2006-12-22.txt:21:22:42: <Sukoshi> I seriously wonder if any code is even written with g77 nowadays.
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266 2006-12-22.txt:21:34:40: <Sukoshi> Hey, I found a book on it at our local book store.
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267 2006-12-22.txt:21:34:45: <Sukoshi> FORTRAN 2002 and one on COBOL.
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268 2006-12-22.txt:21:34:56: <Sukoshi> I was contemplating on buyng the COBOL book just to burn it.
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269 2006-12-22.txt:21:36:03: <Sukoshi> It's worth learning still because it's still fast.
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270 2006-12-22.txt:21:36:11: <Sukoshi> Like Pascal and ALGOL.
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271 2006-12-22.txt:21:37:29: <Sukoshi> Oh wait, can you read this?
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272 2006-12-22.txt:21:37:46: <Sukoshi> Could you read that?
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273 2006-12-22.txt:21:39:35: <Sukoshi> <Sukoshi> Like Pascal and ALGOL.
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274 2006-12-22.txt:21:39:38: <Sukoshi> Could you read that?
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275 2006-12-22.txt:21:46:53: <Sukoshi> NO!
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276 2006-12-22.txt:21:47:04: <Sukoshi> My keyboard went AWOL on me, on 32 days of uptime.
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277 2006-12-22.txt:21:47:32: <Sukoshi> Is there any way to get it to work with a PS/2 keyboard again without a restart?
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278 2006-12-22.txt:21:47:33: <Sukoshi> SSH.
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279 2006-12-22.txt:21:47:54: <Sukoshi> Linux....
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280 2006-12-22.txt:21:48:19: <Sukoshi> ... I don't think I compiled it as a module ;-;
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281 2006-12-22.txt:21:48:52: <Sukoshi> Darn you!
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282 2006-12-22.txt:21:51:04: <Sukoshi> きみのってないわよ！！！
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283 2006-12-22.txt:21:51:24: <Sukoshi> This 'aint fair!
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284 2006-12-22.txt:21:52:25: <Sukoshi> Guh.... I'll restart....
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285 2006-12-22.txt:21:52:57: <Sukoshi> My dear, dear uptime!
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286 2006-12-22.txt:22:03:15: <Sukoshi> SCORE!
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287 2006-12-22.txt:22:03:25: <Sukoshi> It wasn't the keyboard (which seems to be hotpluggable :P).
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288 2006-12-22.txt:22:03:48: <Sukoshi> Xvesa left my stuff inoperable, and it seemed restarting it did the trick.
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289 2006-12-22.txt:22:05:09: <Sukoshi> Guh. The machine is refusing to go back to a usable state if I kill Xvesa.
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290 2006-12-22.txt:22:05:17: <Sukoshi> Hmmm... how to make it gracefully exit....
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291 2006-12-22.txt:22:05:30: <Sukoshi> Rather, the physical terminal is refusing to go back to a usable state.
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292 2006-12-22.txt:22:05:56: <Sukoshi> 14:01:46 up 38 days, 7:06, 14 users, load average: 1.63, 1.87, 1.82
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293 2006-12-22.txt:22:07:48: <Sukoshi> Guh...
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294 2006-12-22.txt:22:10:10: <Sukoshi> So, now let's see how I can kill Xvesa while keeping access to my physical peripherals.
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295 2006-12-22.txt:22:15:23: <Sukoshi> Well, uh... I'm not sure.
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296 2006-12-22.txt:22:15:33: <Sukoshi> The only thing I guess I can do is nice -n 20 it.
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297 2006-12-22.txt:22:16:09: <Sukoshi> Piece of poop Xserver.
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298 2006-12-22.txt:22:17:48: <Sukoshi> Success!
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299 2006-12-22.txt:22:18:15: <Sukoshi> For some reason, if you give Xvesa the vt argument, it locks up and dies, but if you give it a tty argument, it's fine.
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300 2006-12-22.txt:22:18:54: <Sukoshi> Well, I just wasted 30 minutes preserving my uptime. That makes me feel.... wholesome inside.
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301 [too many lines; stopping]
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