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2 2007-08-07.txt:18:53:54: * olsner also once learned to 120 but is now back to just 60
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3 2007-08-07.txt:18:54:24: <olsner> yeah yeah
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4 2007-08-07.txt:18:57:09: <olsner> I have a mixture of chunksizes... starting with two (I didn't set out to learn a lot of pi, just as much as could fit in a 64-bit float ;-), then a few groups of 3 or 4, then like pairs of 4's to 60, and 60-120 I memorized in 3's
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5 2007-08-07.txt:18:58:17: <olsner> 3 . 14 15 92 65 35 89 79 32 38 46 264 338 32 79 50 2884 1971 6939 (9375 1058) (2097 4944)
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6 2007-08-07.txt:19:00:50: <olsner> ehird`: well, it's not natural, it's transcendental
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7 2007-08-07.txt:19:01:00: <ehird`> olsner: har har har har har har har yawn
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8 2007-08-07.txt:19:14:15: <olsner> Podemos usar = let's use?
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9 2007-08-07.txt:19:15:04: <olsner> and what's 'otras' mean?
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10 2007-08-07.txt:19:17:34: <olsner> lament: you're 10 digits away from mine and oklofok's baseline, and 70 digits away from our max
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11 2007-08-07.txt:19:19:43: <olsner> that's what I guessed
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12 2007-08-07.txt:19:19:55: <olsner> seems I do know a little bit of spanish after all
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13 2007-08-07.txt:19:22:53: <lament> olsner: i don't feel like learning any more, and 50 is a nice round number :)
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14 2007-08-07.txt:19:23:25: <olsner> lament: just pointing out that you're behind ;-)
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15 2007-08-07.txt:19:23:35: <lament> olsner: actually i know all digits of pi
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16 2007-08-07.txt:19:23:40: <lament> olsner: 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
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17 2007-08-07.txt:19:24:04: <olsner> lament: har har har har hrrg
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18 2007-08-07.txt:19:39:00: <olsner> oklofok: but on IRC, all that matters is what you're writing... and you seem to be writing english ;-)
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19 2007-08-07.txt:19:41:24: <olsner> ja ;-) ich bin nicht deutsch, aber ich kann es siemlich sprechen
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20 2007-08-07.txt:19:44:17: <olsner> and a few french phrases "je suis une pomplemousse avec deux jeune bleu", "je ne sais pas, j'aime tout le coleurs" ;-)
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21 2007-08-07.txt:19:45:23: <olsner> oh, I forgot the 'gut'
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22 2007-08-07.txt:19:46:38: <olsner> it just sounded right because the phrase I was aiming for also begins with 'siemlich'
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23 2007-08-07.txt:19:47:15: <olsner> or *ziemlich ;-)
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24 2007-08-07.txt:19:49:00: <olsner> oklofok: whut? have I been making up german words?
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25 2007-08-07.txt:19:50:16: <olsner> but ziemlich is a word
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26 2007-08-07.txt:19:55:52: <olsner> and #implang would be like a channel where you mustn't speak any known language?
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28 2007-08-07.txt:21:33:27: <olsner> LOOP probably does everything from mapcar to forth's begin..while..while..repeat..else..then loop
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29 2007-08-07.txt:21:36:09: <olsner> dunno ;-) as far as I understand forth, those control structures are just manipulations on some kind of control stack and can be combined virtually without limits
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30 2007-08-07.txt:21:39:27: <olsner> oh, you're asking about CL's LOOP, not about forth? I' not a big fan of loop so I've actually never used it ;-)
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37 2007-08-08.txt:18:56:13: <olsner> hmm... how do you do call/cc in haskell?
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38 2007-08-08.txt:18:57:23: <olsner> ah, a monad.. should've guessed ;-)
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39 2007-08-08.txt:19:01:28: <olsner> we used Chez Scheme for our SICP course
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40 2007-08-08.txt:19:02:08: <olsner> oh, that reminds me that I was thinking of going through that tutorial... any day now
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41 2007-08-08.txt:19:03:35: <olsner> hmm... please clarify?
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42 2007-08-08.txt:20:48:00: <olsner> I'd like to see the top-ten populous animals... things like cockroaches - how many can there be on the entire earth?
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43 2007-08-08.txt:20:52:01: <olsner> hehe, the Methuselah Mouse Prize is somewhat like competing in server uptimes, but for mouse breeders
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44 2007-08-08.txt:20:52:36: <olsner> current record: a mouse that lived for 1819 days
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45 2007-08-08.txt:22:36:59: <olsner> they think you're a terrorist
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50 2007-08-09.txt:21:17:59: <olsner> is unicode turing complete?
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51 2007-08-09.txt:21:18:16: <olsner> a maze generator *generating* unicode is a different matter entirely
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52 2007-08-09.txt:21:22:18: <olsner> ;-)
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53 2007-08-09.txt:21:23:24: <olsner> the algorithm for bidirectional rendering of text seems quite intricate though - a few carefully inserted extra rules could perhaps make it turing complete
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54 2007-08-09.txt:21:27:11: <olsner> javascript ;-)
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55 2007-08-09.txt:21:28:40: <olsner> RodgerTheGreat: make timing matter too ;-)
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56 2007-08-09.txt:21:28:56: <olsner> the entire language is one big race condition, hehe
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57 2007-08-09.txt:21:40:10: <olsner> 1 is also a power of 2
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58 2007-08-09.txt:21:40:21: <olsner> 0 bits ;-)
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59 2007-08-09.txt:21:47:37: <olsner> hello.jpg?
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60 2007-08-09.txt:21:47:46: <olsner> meta-goatse?
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61 2007-08-09.txt:21:49:24: <olsner> ehird`: do you *really* think it had mnemonics? :P
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62 2007-08-09.txt:21:51:55: <olsner> I guess you'd need load, store and some way to tell load and store where to load/store from/to
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63 2007-08-09.txt:21:52:51: <olsner> OP <imm> --> LD addr-to-data,reg; OP reg
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64 2007-08-09.txt:21:53:06: <olsner> but the address is a kind of immediate ;-)
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65 2007-08-09.txt:21:53:32: <olsner> then no, you wouldn't need immediates
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66 2007-08-09.txt:23:01:39: <olsner> I think NOP is the quintessential non-essential operation :P
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67 2007-08-09.txt:23:01:58: <olsner> *perhaps* useful to fill branch delay slots though
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68 2007-08-09.txt:23:05:57: <ehird`> olsner: LD addr-to-data,reg
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69 2007-08-09.txt:23:06:05: <ehird`> olsner: how would you put this data in the address? :)
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70 2007-08-09.txt:23:06:50: <olsner> ehird`: let's say addresses 0-200 is code and 200-250 is data... just LD 201,reg1 to load the contents of address 201 into register 1
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71 2007-08-09.txt:23:07:10: <olsner> and ST reg1,201 would put a recalculated value back into memory
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72 2007-08-09.txt:23:07:46: <olsner> not really - it could be loading code into registers to modify itself
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73 2007-08-09.txt:23:08:19: <olsner> nah, just let bits 0-31 control the page number :P
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74 2007-08-09.txt:23:09:41: <ehird`> olsner: how would you personally define ST?
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75 2007-08-09.txt:23:10:23: <olsner> 4 addresses? that's just the same as having 4 registers though :P
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80 2007-08-10.txt:19:57:29: <olsner> oklokok: C types are guaranteed to have a size in bytes defined at compile-time
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81 2007-08-10.txt:19:58:40: <olsner> and bytes are afaik defined to be 8-bit quantities...
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82 2007-08-10.txt:20:01:46: <olsner> well, PC:s aren't turing complete either due to the finite size of memory
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83 2007-08-10.txt:20:07:23: <olsner> ehird`: sizeof(char) could be sizeof(pointer-to-bignum)
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84 2007-08-10.txt:20:07:38: <ehird`> olsner: Sure.. So what?
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85 2007-08-10.txt:20:08:27: <olsner> I mean, sizeof(void *) would be composed of bignums in such a way as to have constant size (but use hidden extra data to enable unbounded values)
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86 2007-08-10.txt:20:08:55: <olsner> thus, sizeof's would be bounded, but the values contained unbounded
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87 2007-08-10.txt:20:09:34: <olsner> could be just 1, since a byte is a bignum
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88 2007-08-10.txt:20:12:25: <olsner> there is contention as to whether that byte size actually is mandated by the standard ;-)
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89 2007-08-10.txt:20:20:41: <ihope_> olsner: there's contention as to... wha?
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90 2007-08-10.txt:20:21:28: <olsner> whether the size of a byte is defined by the C standard to be exactly 8 bits
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91 2007-08-10.txt:20:23:10: <olsner> it probably is clear on that... you just have to read that part of the standard ;-)
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92 2007-08-10.txt:20:26:25: <olsner> I think the discussion did have the potential to bring forth a deeper understanding of C's turing in/completeness
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93 2007-08-10.txt:20:30:39: <olsner> MiniMaL (MINImal MAchine Language) :P
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94 2007-08-10.txt:20:31:04: <olsner> but anything above 1 instruction isn't really minimal anymore
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95 2007-08-10.txt:20:34:07: <olsner> plus, tininess isn't essential for esotericism
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96 2007-08-10.txt:20:36:02: <olsner> so, by winning the fight they lost their allies?
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97 2007-08-10.txt:20:40:40: <olsner> SimonRC: "the right O()"?
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98 2007-08-10.txt:20:57:11: <olsner> an interesting challenge would be to make the program speak "Hello world" through the speaker :P
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99 2007-08-10.txt:20:57:41: <olsner> 256 bytes of data + code makes that really really hard unfortunately
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100 2007-08-10.txt:20:58:48: <olsner> oh, so the code size is unlimited, but only the first 256 bytes are read/writable?
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101 2007-08-10.txt:20:59:44: <olsner> I'm talking text-to-speech (or a simple vocal model) hello world
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102 2007-08-10.txt:21:01:29: <olsner> but the spec doesn't say that the instruction pointer is limited to 0..255, so I guess you can get quite far with frivolous code generation ;-) i.e. generate an N-megbyte program that explicitly loads immmediate data into registers and never jumps
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107 2008-01-23.txt:16:28:54: <olsner> heh, cobol with lazy evaluation ;-)
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108 2008-01-23.txt:16:30:15: <olsner> actually I think it'd be better than plain cobol in most ways
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109 2008-01-23.txt:16:30:33: <ehird> olsner: not quite cobol with lazy evaluation, if you say COBOL already has a value
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110 2008-01-23.txt:16:32:49: <olsner> ehird: no, but it kind of looked like one of those let x = ... in ... x ... constructions familiar from haskell one-liners
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111 2008-01-23.txt:16:33:04: <ehird> olsner: yeah
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112 2008-01-23.txt:16:35:26: <olsner> Slereah: you could try looking for half adders and full adders, the digital circuits for addition - connect n full-adders and you can do n-bit addition
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113 2008-01-23.txt:16:38:55: <olsner> Underload?
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114 2008-01-23.txt:16:39:59: <olsner> oh, is it a functional stack language?
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115 2008-01-23.txt:16:42:53: <olsner> heh, that's basically just a web interface for cat
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116 2008-01-23.txt:16:43:57: <ehird> olsner: 'xactly
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117 2008-01-23.txt:16:54:59: <olsner> reduce = foldr?
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118 2008-01-23.txt:16:55:16: <ehird> olsner: or foldl, i dunno
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119 2008-01-23.txt:16:58:19: <olsner> yeah, connection problems often lead to having your files renamed?
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120 2008-01-23.txt:16:59:27: <olsner> dangerous script, that
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121 2008-01-23.txt:17:00:23: <olsner> I think you can fix that with the proper mount flags
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122 2008-01-23.txt:17:02:15: <olsner> hmm, but how can you be a sysadmin without administration privileges on the machines you're supposed to admin?
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123 2008-01-23.txt:17:02:58: <olsner> oh joy
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124 2008-01-23.txt:17:10:09: <olsner> our project management system at work is called Project Management System, i.e. PMS :P
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125 2008-01-23.txt:17:15:09: <olsner> any nice small string rewriting esolangs out there? thinking of writing an interpreter in mod_rewrite
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126 2008-01-23.txt:17:15:15: <ehird> olsner: yes
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127 2008-01-23.txt:17:15:16: <ehird> olsner: thue
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128 2008-01-23.txt:17:16:24: <olsner> you don't know about haskell? you should try it out, it's sweet
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129 2008-01-23.txt:17:17:05: <olsner> "if it's not an esolang, ..."?
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130 2008-01-23.txt:17:17:29: <olsner> oh, I see
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131 2008-01-23.txt:17:17:58: <olsner> I read it as "what's this haskell? as long as it's not an esolang, let's take it"
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132 2008-01-23.txt:17:18:46: <olsner> underload :: Stack -> (String, Stack)
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133 2008-01-23.txt:17:19:03: <ehird> olsner: compiler.
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134 2008-01-23.txt:17:19:17: <ehird> olsner: the way we compile it is... a bit hard to grok
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135 2008-01-23.txt:17:20:15: <olsner> does underload have input?
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136 2008-01-23.txt:17:20:29: <ais523> olsner: no
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137 2008-01-23.txt:17:21:15: <olsner> ah, yes, forgot the part about the input program
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138 2008-01-23.txt:17:27:40: <olsner> apt-get darcs
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139 2008-01-23.txt:17:27:56: <ehird> olsner: this is a good point, beforehand ais523 couldn't install anything though
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140 2008-01-23.txt:17:29:03: <olsner> darcs has a pretty low barrier to entry really, took like 30 minutes to get going
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141 2008-01-23.txt:17:29:28: <olsner> no funky databases, servers or any of that crud
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142 2008-01-23.txt:17:33:30: <olsner> how would you set up a darcs push without giving shell access?
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143 2008-01-23.txt:17:33:41: <ehird> olsner: i'm not sure, but meh
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144 2008-01-23.txt:17:36:13: <olsner> I guess the secure way is to darcs send things to an e-mail and let some maintainer person apply after review
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145 2008-01-23.txt:17:36:37: <ehird> olsner: yes, well, that's not quite rapid enough for me :-)
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146 2008-01-23.txt:17:36:41: <olsner> I've heard of e-mail services with GPG-based authentification of patches
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147 2008-01-23.txt:17:36:55: <olsner> but still, ssh-access is probably still easiest
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148 2008-01-23.txt:17:40:37: <olsner> isn't user@host:path the syntax for ssh? yeah :P
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149 2008-01-23.txt:17:45:42: <olsner> huh? darcs get worked on a non-repository?
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150 2008-01-23.txt:17:45:54: <ehird> olsner: that is a repository.
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151 2008-01-23.txt:17:46:21: <olsner> "remove that dir, i need to get the repo up first"
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152 2008-01-23.txt:17:47:29: <olsner> darcs record
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153 2008-01-23.txt:17:47:52: <ehird> olsner: darcsum.
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154 2008-01-23.txt:17:48:11: <olsner> oh
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155 2008-01-23.txt:17:50:58: <ehird> olsner: the underload compiler is interesting because at first glance, it seems self-modifying and uncompilable
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156 2008-01-23.txt:17:54:03: <ehird> olsner: what's the simple way to get a read-only darcs?
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157 2008-01-23.txt:17:54:27: <olsner> ehird: I had a http server laying around and just set up a vhost for darcs
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158 2008-01-23.txt:17:54:40: <ehird> olsner: i don't have a server lying around until i get my site up :-)
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159 2008-01-23.txt:17:57:20: <ehird> olsner: any other easy way?
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160 2008-01-23.txt:17:58:09: <olsner> searching, but it seems that http is the preferred way of getting read-only public access
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161 2008-01-23.txt:18:01:39: <olsner> it's really not that hard to set up apache2 and a vhost (or a symlink for ~darcs to go to the right place)
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162 2008-01-23.txt:18:01:52: <ehird> olsner: eww, apache
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163 2008-01-23.txt:18:02:23: <olsner> or any other web browser for that matter, since darcs only needs plain http file serving
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164 2008-01-23.txt:18:03:14: <olsner> do you also get database errors from esolangs.org?
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165 2008-01-23.txt:18:03:16: <ehird> olsner: I should write my own :P
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166 2008-01-23.txt:18:03:19: <ehird> olsner: and everyone does
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167 2008-01-23.txt:18:03:22: <ais523> olsner: once in a while
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168 2008-01-23.txt:18:06:27: <ehird> olsner: if you want to see the crazy state-stuff that the compiler uses to compile:
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169 2008-01-23.txt:18:08:13: <olsner> do I want prelude.c, postlude.c or underload.scm?
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170 2008-01-23.txt:18:09:13: <ehird> olsner: prelude.c is all the library functions and structures that the output uses
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171 2008-01-23.txt:18:09:34: <olsner> I show the code to my brain but it refuses to parse although I know that it knows scheme
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172 2008-01-23.txt:18:09:47: <ehird> olsner: it's not pretty that's for sure
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173 2008-01-23.txt:18:09:50: <olsner> time to get home from work I think!
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174 2008-01-23.txt:18:10:32: <olsner> the name 'blimp' reminds me of haskell's thunks
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175 2008-01-23.txt:18:11:22: <ehird> olsner: it's kind of similar
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176 2008-01-23.txt:18:13:50: <ehird> olsner: which is why we have ugly code
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177 2008-01-23.txt:18:14:25: <olsner> sounds like something you might be able to use a tie-the-knot technique on
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178 2008-01-23.txt:18:14:49: <ehird> olsner: is that really a programming technique?
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179 2008-01-23.txt:18:15:16: <olsner> it's all those cool haskell tricks where you build a value that depends on itself
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180 2008-01-23.txt:18:15:53: <olsner> they look like magic
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181 2008-01-23.txt:18:16:02: <ehird> olsner: how would i use that in THIS case...?
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182 2008-01-23.txt:18:16:31: <olsner> dunno, I don't even understand how the language we're compiling works yet ;-)
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183 2008-01-23.txt:18:16:39: <olsner> *you're
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184 2008-01-23.txt:18:16:41: <ehird> olsner: another thing is that i want to generate a parse tree, but for (...) i need to store the string ... as well as its parse tree
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185 2008-01-23.txt:18:16:48: <ehird> olsner: the wiki can help
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186 2008-01-23.txt:18:21:14: <olsner> well, gotta run now, cya
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187 2008-01-23.txt:18:21:24: <ehird> bye olsner :)
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190 2008-01-23.txt:19:28:43: <olsner> wow, frappr was useless
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191 2008-01-23.txt:19:29:35: <olsner> stuck in som kind of weird slideshow, and the only place I can put a pin is Null in Texass
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192 2008-01-23.txt:19:38:26: <olsner> wow, frappr now takes all keypresses twice
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193 2008-01-23.txt:19:43:31: <olsner> emacs should be removed, not rewritten... but I guess that can be construed as motivation for doing it
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194 2008-01-23.txt:21:51:30: <olsner> can I be an oompaloompian hacker?
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195 2008-01-23.txt:21:52:22: <olsner> I get by
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196 2008-01-23.txt:21:57:02: <olsner> llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogochian!
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197 2008-01-23.txt:21:57:13: <oerjan> olsner: bless you!
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198 2008-01-23.txt:21:57:16: <olsner> *actual place name*
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199 2008-01-23.txt:22:21:58: <olsner> something like perl? :P
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200 2008-01-23.txt:22:22:12: <ehird> olsner: nah, not really
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201 2008-01-23.txt:22:22:36: <ehird> olsner: you can't easily refactor perl, it isn't mostly written in itself, and it doesn't have a native-compiling kernel
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202 2008-01-23.txt:22:22:50: <ehird> olsner: but really jokes aside you should join #ninjacode, it's going to be awesome :P
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203 2008-01-23.txt:22:22:51: <olsner> yeah, the analogy is quite imperfect
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208 2008-01-24.txt:23:35:21: <olsner> so, I'm working on a sed script that translates thue into mod_rewrite rules... testing it on a brainfuck interpreter written in thue :P
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209 2008-01-24.txt:23:35:42: <ehird> olsner: do you get a crapload of redirects or something?
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210 2008-01-24.txt:23:36:50: <olsner> basically you write http://host/brainfuckProgram:000_001_010_ to execute the brainfuck program on input [0,1,2]
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211 2008-01-24.txt:23:37:59: <olsner> and I rewrite it to print.php?output in the end, and let print.php just print that string
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212 2008-01-24.txt:23:38:56: <olsner> have a few bugs in it I think... and the sed script isn't exactly readable (regexps producing regexps ^^)
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213 2008-01-24.txt:23:42:35: <olsner> oh noes, mod_rewritwe translates ? into a request with a query string... and only uses the URI part for future matching... more ugly sed hacking :S
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214 2008-01-24.txt:23:43:47: <ehird> olsner: you can tell it to match whole
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215 2008-01-24.txt:23:45:55: <olsner> hmm... the apache manual suggests otherwise: "The Pattern will not be matched against the query string."
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216 2008-01-24.txt:23:46:28: <olsner> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewriterule under "Note: Query String"
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217 2008-01-24.txt:23:50:27: <olsner> seems the workaround they recommend is to match URI and query string separately, with a RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} ... before the RewriteRule
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218 2008-01-25.txt:00:00:27: <olsner> apache doesn't handle the case of looping rewrites very well... I don't know how to abort runaway requests in apache
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219 2008-01-25.txt:00:25:58: <olsner> (Does Brainfuck over HTTP count? :P)
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220 2008-01-25.txt:00:26:22: <eagle-101> olsner, I suppose, if it is able to keep a socket open. (or the brainfuck equivalent)
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223 2008-01-25.txt:23:41:55: <olsner> wow, a computer with several billion tits.. now that'd be something
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224 2008-01-25.txt:23:43:41: <olsner> unfortunately, #apache didn't seem to be interested in my report on mod_rewrite's memory problems when running a brainfuck interpreter
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225 2008-01-25.txt:23:45:34: <olsner> neither 0 or 1 are prime numbers according to the definitions I've been taught
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226 2008-01-25.txt:23:48:01: <olsner> but the digits 8, 1, 6, 4 and 9 are also non-primes
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227 2008-01-25.txt:23:49:01: <oklopol> olsner: i didn't say them though
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228 2008-01-25.txt:23:49:31: <olsner> oklopol: 89, 83, 79, 71, 67, 61, 59, 51, 47, 43
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229 2008-01-25.txt:23:50:02: <oklopol> olsner: well you fixed me pretty bad there
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230 2008-01-25.txt:23:50:32: <olsner> well, the condition was *using only prime numbers*
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231 2008-01-25.txt:23:51:55: <olsner> gotta go sleep, too tired to think
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232 2008-01-26.txt:11:58:16: <olsner> funny, I read that one like only a week ago
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233 2008-01-26.txt:20:32:11: <olsner> my haskell thue interpreter is far too slow... it's taken more than 30 minutes to run BF hello world through the Thue BF interpreter, and still not done
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234 2008-01-26.txt:20:32:46: <olsner> the python thue interpreter does it in 3-4 minutes
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235 2008-01-26.txt:20:34:34: <olsner> done! 33m35s :(
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236 2008-01-26.txt:20:35:55: <ehird> olsner: Write something that compiles it into Haskell rules
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237 2008-01-26.txt:20:37:44: <olsner> yeah, and ending it with thueStep (x:xs) = x:thueStep xs; thueStep [] = thueStep [] - that'd probably work!
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238 2008-01-26.txt:20:38:31: <olsner> I was otherwise thinking of building some kind of automaton and running that
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239 2008-01-26.txt:20:38:53: <ehird> olsner: that would be a slow thueStep base case
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240 2008-01-26.txt:20:41:31: <olsner> wouldn't the find part basically do the exact same thing as thueStep only not replace anything?
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241 2008-01-26.txt:20:41:53: <ehird> olsner: you could use a more efficient algorithm
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242 2008-01-26.txt:23:24:50: <olsner> what's the Juggernaut?
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243 2008-01-26.txt:23:25:08: <olsner> (and I though it was spelled juggernaught?)
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244 2008-01-26.txt:23:25:49: <olsner> ooh, nice tool
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245 2008-01-26.txt:23:36:04: <olsner> heh, funny etymology of that word
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246 2008-01-27.txt:00:09:35: <olsner> 25852016738884976640000
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249 2008-02-05.txt:01:13:39: <olsner> must one join *every* channel? :P
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257 2008-02-06.txt:07:25:54: <olsner> what was all the fuzz about?
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258 2008-02-06.txt:07:26:19: <olsner> well, <!-- back at you
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259 2008-02-06.txt:07:26:50: <immibis> olsner: interpreting irc client output as xml </immibis> </olsner> </immibis> </olsner> </oklopol> </immibis> </immibis> </oklopol>
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260 2008-02-06.txt:07:28:57: <olsner> immibis: but why? it's *not* xml and shouldn't be parsed as it
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261 2008-02-06.txt:07:29:10: * olsner decides to be boring
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262 2008-02-06.txt:07:29:56: <olsner> <![CDATA[
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265 2008-02-06.txt:23:41:47: <olsner> what happened to ninjacode?
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266 2008-02-06.txt:23:42:03: <ehird`> olsner: it's still going to be written; it's just on the back-burner
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267 2008-02-06.txt:23:42:21: <olsner> ninjacode 2?
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268 2008-02-06.txt:23:43:03: <ehird`> olsner: you got bored fast
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269 2008-02-06.txt:23:43:36: <olsner> heh, late night at work, so I'll be entering daily hibernation as soon as possible
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270 2008-02-06.txt:23:47:48: <olsner> besides the profanity, I think they've got something going there
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271 2008-02-06.txt:23:51:41: <ehird`> olsner: oh noes, prrofanity, what will we do :D
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272 2008-02-07.txt:01:38:50: <olsner> LD H,C? which architecture is that?
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273 2008-02-07.txt:01:38:56: <ehird`> olsner: z80
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274 2008-02-07.txt:01:39:08: <olsner> aha
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275 2008-02-07.txt:01:46:11: <olsner> "Phawn is still on the drawing board" haha
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278 2008-02-07.txt:18:09:33: <olsner> if ordinary people could do it, it wouldn't be esoteric, now would it?
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279 2008-02-07.txt:18:11:25: <olsner> zisc? isn't that ibm's old neural net processor?
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280 2008-02-07.txt:18:12:05: <olsner> yeah, it's like having EVAL as an opcode
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281 2008-02-07.txt:18:13:29: <lament> olsner: having EVAL as an opcode would not be very useful if it were the only instruction.
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282 2008-02-07.txt:18:13:55: <olsner> lament: depends on what it takes - let's say it takes a pointer to a block of lisp code :P
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289 2008-02-09.txt:01:15:15: <olsner> afaik, APL doesn't even have an official unicode mapping
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290 2008-02-09.txt:01:15:22: <ehird`_> olsner: it does.
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291 2008-02-09.txt:01:16:33: <olsner> oh, I was under the impression that APL fonts and systems had to use user-mapped unicode ranges for APL characters - at least all the APL fonts I've found turned out to be mutually incompatible
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292 2008-02-09.txt:01:17:13: <olsner> more than a few thousands though
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293 2008-02-09.txt:01:18:03: <olsner> haskell Chars go up to 1114111, I think
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298 2008-02-10.txt:00:24:08: <olsner> I don't think it's been "claimed" - rather "proved"
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299 2008-02-10.txt:00:25:40: <olsner> but that does not exclude the quine being devilishly hard to find, I guess
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